^That sounds about right depending on the size of the WU.

6/15/2007 6:49:03 AM

This is probably a silly question, but do they support ATI Mobility GPUs?

i have an x1700 in my laptop, it's just a refreshed x1600 but it complicates things because ati is lousy about supporting it, and of course x1600 drivers aren't effective on it...

6/15/2007 7:48:59 AM

http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=19024&highlight=x1700+mobility

It seems to require a bit of a hack to "fool" the client into thinking it's a x1600, but it can be made to work apparently.

6/15/2007 8:27:29 AM

Ordered another folding rig/server from Dell today -

http://slickdeals.net/?permadeal=9701#direct_deal_9701

♥ Slickdeals!

[Edited on June 15, 2007 at 2:33 PM. Reason : I got in quick...checked it about 10min after I ordered and the deal was dead.]

6/15/2007 2:29:35 PM

^wow...thats an excellent(and i'm a jew) deal...dvd burner, the ram, the processor, vista...all that for 219 w/ free shipping...kudos to you

6/15/2007 5:44:43 PM

^^Glad you got it. I was too late.

6/16/2007 8:10:10 AM

is there anyway you can force your computer to go idle sooner? like say i was doing something and when i finish i KNOW i wont be on my computer for the next 5 hours...and since i know this i want it to immediately think its idle soon as i leave...anyway to do that?

6/16/2007 4:19:36 PM

It does anyway. Idle doesn't refer to whether you are actually doing anything, it's just when the CPU usage falls below a certain threshold, generally because there is no activity.

In other words, it's not something you set. If you want to lower your idling CPU use, you need to eliminate unnecessary processes that run in the background and chew up CPU cycles.

6/16/2007 10:19:52 PM

i think we're losing NeoEraser....this could get bad

6/16/2007 11:29:59 PM

woo hoo. i just debuted at #187.




^ why losing Neo?

[Edited on June 17, 2007 at 2:23 AM. Reason : ]

6/17/2007 2:19:56 AM

is 38sec/frame a good rate to have?

i put the priority in task manager to abovenormal and it went up to 44sec/frame

6/17/2007 2:28:55 AM

^^^My understanding is that he does not have controll of those PC's anymore, so it is just a matter of time before the program is removed or the PC's are replaced. Also, sometimes they are shutdown for a week or so at a time. He has had fluctuations like this before.

^^Good work, keep charging to the top.

^The best thing to do is open your task manager and see what programs are using your CPU time. Leave it open during the day and see what is using your cycles. My guess it that over the long run you will see no difference in increasing your priority and will have more system problems. As I type this, Folding is using 92-98% of the CPU time, while explorer etc. are using the rest.

6/17/2007 7:54:05 AM

New User here! I have the p3040_supervillin protein folding as we speak...or type!

6/17/2007 1:20:18 PM

Thanks for joining. I updated the website a bit to include the instruction in the on the first page of the thread.

6/17/2007 1:47:48 PM

Quote :

"k someone explain this to me. This username is averaging over 20k points every 24 hours. http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=216728 But it says he's only using 5 processors to do it. http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=TROGDOR101 Hows that possible? In fact their entire team looks a little fishy... http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=49078"

Turns out it was an internal testing thing...they've adjusted the point values of the WUs that the team works on.

http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic20316-0-asc-0.html

6/17/2007 2:11:35 PM

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=drunknloaded&teamnum=59

so my parents computer must be shittier than i thought...i completed a WU finally, so my stats updated...apparently i only earned like 150 points for completing the WU

6/17/2007 4:25:41 PM

^ congrats on your first WU (in a while at least). keep it up, we're starting to turn this thing around.

6/17/2007 11:22:13 PM

I know somewhere on campus were there is free printing...i kinda want to make like 100 flyers and put them up randomly around ncsu....there are too many students at this school to not have it up on like 2000+ machines

[Edited on June 17, 2007 at 11:42 PM. Reason : if someone wants to make a good flyer and send it to me i'll print them out and put them up]

[Edited on June 17, 2007 at 11:42 PM. Reason : thought about making a group on facebook to try and get more people also]

[Edited on June 17, 2007 at 11:45 PM. Reason : pm me if you have any ideas...i'm not good at these types of things]

6/17/2007 11:41:32 PM

discreetly send a spam unsolicited bulk email to NCSU mailing lists.

just write a couple short lines about FAH + NCSU, Team #59, and the relevant links. don't mention TWW at all.

and when you do send the bulk email, send it FROM: an NCSU email address, send it back TO: the same address, and put all of the recipients in the BCC: field. this is important. otherwise you're gonna have hundreds of pissed off people.

6/18/2007 1:01:30 AM

I am joining back in after a new computer build. I have a dual core AMD, do I need to do anything special during the installation of the SMP client to use both cores?

6/18/2007 1:49:44 AM

question:

what happens if you "covertly" put FAH on computers not controlled by you, then halfway through the WU, whoever has the computer finds FAH, and uninstalls it. leaving the WU half finished.

wouldnt this kind of fuck the FAH effort up? they'd think the WU is being worked on, but actually its not.

6/18/2007 2:41:57 AM

^There's a deadline i believe for most WU's. And once that deadline is up the project goes to someone else.

^^No the smp client should utilize both cores once you install it. You will just want to set the idle/load settings.

[Edited on June 18, 2007 at 8:24 AM. Reason : .]

6/18/2007 8:23:38 AM

^ why would they want to mess with those settings?

6/18/2007 1:07:55 PM

I tried the SMP client and it didn't seem to recongize the second core and also didn't seem to work. I read that dual core to be run on the normal client and the SMP is for quad core. Any truth to this?

6/18/2007 2:43:23 PM

SMP should run on dual core. Most people here who use smp use C2Ds and run it fine i believe. My fah is currently down for a couple days while i reassemble my pc. My poor desktop is currently opened up on my desk with parts all over the place.

[Edited on June 18, 2007 at 2:48 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2007 2:46:46 PM

# SMP Client ##################################################################
###############################################################################

Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta

http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Launch directory: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe


[03:27:38] - Ask before connecting: No
[03:27:38] - User name: TextileWolf (Team 59)
[03:27:38] - User ID: 1103CD097F027052
[03:27:38] - Machine ID: 1
[03:27:38]
[03:27:38] Loaded queue successfully.
[03:27:38]
[03:27:38] + Processing work unit
[03:27:38] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[03:27:38] Core found.
[03:27:38] Working on Unit 09 [June 19 03:27:38]
[03:27:38] + Working ...

Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.[quote]

I can't seem to get it to do anything. What am I missing? It keeps getting stuck on working.

6/18/2007 11:37:28 PM

[Edited on June 18, 2007 at 11:47 PM. Reason : nm]

6/18/2007 11:46:57 PM

apparently you keep requesting it to shut down.

stop that.

6/19/2007 1:51:47 AM

so I'm using the FAH GUI Client on my 2.66 GHz P4 with XP Pro. I have read folks getting 30-40 secs/frame. Do I just have something really complex here because I'm running in the 35-40 minutes/frame range. CPU is at 100%. I've got 250 frames and I'm only done with 80. Been running for two days.

Just trying to get an idea of what's going on.

[Edited on June 19, 2007 at 6:17 AM. Reason : ]

6/19/2007 6:14:17 AM

^ is it using 100% if the CPU, or just 50%?

6/19/2007 8:48:54 AM

For anyone having too much trouble getting the SMP client working, here's another option to get a decent amount of points (though not quite as much as the SMP)

Setup two Console Clients as detailed here:
http://fahwiki.net/index.php/FAH_&_SMP (scroll to the middle of this page for instructions)
Using the -local flag and setting the MachineID of one of the clients to 2 is what gets this working. You have to edit the advanced options on installation to get to the MachineID setting.

And to use flags when starting Folding as a service (preferred), all it takes is a quick trip to the registry
http://fahwiki.net/index.php/How_do_I_add_flags_when_running_the_console_in_service_mode%3F

6/19/2007 11:30:29 AM

^^ - it is definitely using 100%. My temperatures and task manager will vouch for that!

6/19/2007 2:24:32 PM

just joined... Put up my parents computer and gonna add the laptop tonight. If work wasnt through a VPN and F-ed up proxy I'd add them too.

6/19/2007 2:45:01 PM

^ Welcome!
^^ I would uninstall the GUI and run the console client if the GUI isn't working right. Add it as a service if you can,

We need to keep adding PCs and PS3s to get us back in this thing. (Macs and Linux boxes welcome too )

6/19/2007 2:47:41 PM

it does appear to be working, it just seems like it is running slower than what folks are saying they are getting. See screenshot:


[Edited on June 19, 2007 at 5:39 PM. Reason : picture]

[Edited on June 19, 2007 at 5:40 PM. Reason : damn file permission...going to terminal]

6/19/2007 5:36:25 PM

are you running anything else in the background...downloading torrents or anything like that.

open up the task manager, processes, and sort by CPU Utilization. Is anything using >5% of your cycles besides folding?

Like I said, you might want to try to console client. Its supposed to perform better than the GUI

6/19/2007 5:59:35 PM

Quote :

"apparently you keep requesting it to shut down. stop that."

I realize that. but does it not show anything other than that. That is all it said after all night....Working....

6/19/2007 6:11:54 PM

Quote :

"it does appear to be working, it just seems like it is running slower than what folks are saying they are getting. See screenshot:"

That's a big WU worth 500 points, so 5 days may be about right for time. You can look up the point values for all of the WU's at: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html

6/19/2007 7:37:01 PM

Quote :

"it does appear to be working, it just seems like it is running slower than what folks are saying they are getting. See screenshot:"

If you really want to see how well you're doing for your specific processor, install Fahmon to see how many Points Per Day you're producing, and check your averages against other users.

Fahmon
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/71068-how-use-fahmon-monitor-my-folding.html
http://fahmon.silent-blade.org/

PPD Comparison
http://fahinfo.org/index.php?avgscores=true

6/19/2007 7:53:21 PM

Joined - and completed my first WU!

6/20/2007 4:30:25 PM

^Nice. Welcome!

I've got everything online atm, pushing ~1500-1700 PPD on average and I'm adding another dual core AMD system next week. Freaking amazing.

6/20/2007 4:53:59 PM

i've got a beast of a machine at work and I would love to use it for folding while I am there. but, I'm behind a proxy. any way that I can figure out what the proxy address is so that I can enter it into the proxy info for F@H?

also, it is a dual core machine. should I use the SMP or just use 2 separate folders of the regular? I don't want to "install" anything if I don't have to, and I noticed that the SMP has to be "installed." a simple unzipping of files to a directory doesn't bother me, but a full-fledged, registry-modifying install makes we squeamish. I would love to be able to just bring in a flash drive and run it from that, but I am literally not allowed to bring in a flash drive or anything like that.

ideally, I'd like to just run the console version when I feel like it. installing it as a service simply isn't an option to me, even though I can physically do that with no problems. the SMP version doesn't seem to give me that option, though.

6/20/2007 9:30:55 PM

I run the SMP as a non-service. I made a shortcut to fah.exe, put my command line options in that shortcut, then placed the shortcut in my startup directory. When my computer comes on, the SMP client starts. I use an application called TrayIT to keep the DOPS window in the System Tray. Be careful tho, SMP WUs have short deadlines, and you'll want any dual-core machine (esp the older/slower ones) to folding SMP WUs 24X7 to get them in on time.

Quote :

"also, it is a dual core machine. should I use the SMP or just use 2 separate folders of the regular? I don't want to "install" anything if I don't have to, and I noticed that the SMP has to be "installed.""

Yeah, maybe you'll want to do 2 console clients...less points but everything helps

6/21/2007 1:46:16 AM

Just added two more machines to my growing array. Today we added a T60P with 2gb ram radeon V5200 and 2.13ghz core duo and an optiplex 745 pentium D 3.4ghz with 2gb of ram. Tommrow I'll add a G4 450mhz 1gb ram and an athlon xp 2400 640 Mb ram. Hope I help.

6/22/2007 12:09:24 AM

^ all those machines will be a huge help! Are you running SMP on those dual core machines?


We need as many big contributors as we can get. Although last week was great, we're really falling hard this week. Lets get the momentum back!

6/22/2007 2:16:56 AM

I didnt know SMP was a different module. I'll assume the how of SMP is somewhere higher in the thread.

6/22/2007 5:09:16 AM

finished my first WU! I got 466 out of the 500 point available for that WU. Any ideas why?

6/22/2007 6:25:31 AM

^^Sorry, I've never used the SMP client.
^I have no idea why.
On a good note, we moved up to 102nd place, but there are more teams that are going to pass us in the future than we are going to pass.

6/22/2007 7:09:05 AM

^ yeah we had started to turn this around but now not so much


in the parlance of our times:

at first i was all like
but now i'm all like

6/22/2007 9:50:27 AM

Sorry had to shut down my cpu for a few days because i was rebuilding it. I also will have my mom's new computer with a C2D running too. So by saturday night i'll have two C2D's up and running the smp client again. You'll be getting almost 4k/day from me. Should help.

6/22/2007 10:13:13 AM