http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Aug05/240805911.htm

Quote :

"The spinning of the smoking guns: More pre-9/11 US intelligence connections to al-Qaeda exposed and spun Larry Chin | August 24 2005 In recent weeks, two "revelations" of pre-9/11 US military-intelligence relationships with al-Qaeda "terrorists" and Osama bin Laden are being used as cannon fodder in an intensifying power struggle between rival political factions vying to seize the "war on terrorism" agenda for their own, and deepen the cover-up of 9/11. The furor over new stories involving alleged 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta and US-bin Laden go-between Tarik Hamdi pits spinmasters against other spinmasters—Kean 9/11 Commission supporters versus hawkish Bush-linked 9/11 Commission attackers, neocons versus neoliberals, and intelligence and law enforcement agencies are at each other's throats again over "intelligence failures." While the spin has dwelled exclusively around "anti-terrorism" and various red herrings, and the supposed frustration over the tracking and arrest of al-Qaeda members, the true evidence trail continues to be purposely ignored. This trail leads directly to high-level US government officials and US intelligence agencies themselves (and US intelligence branches such as Pakistan's ISI), for their nurturing, guiding and placement of "Islamic terrorist" intelligence assets (including Atta, Hamdi, bin Laden and al-Qaeda), and US complicity in 9/11."

[Edited on August 25, 2005 at 9:11 AM. Reason : 1]

8/25/2005 9:10:10 AM

9/11 : THE COVERUP - BACKED UP WITH FACTS FROM THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg

8/27/2005 1:44:20 PM

9/11: The Great Illusion by George Humphrey (FILM)
http://truth.5u.com/video/911-illusion.htm

Quote :

"This important film will help open your friends' and family's eyes to the great illusion that the mainstream media has created around the September 11th attacks. The narrative of facts reinforced by visual evidence, poignant images and original music will compel the viewer to leave the old explanation behind and move toward a greater awareness of the New World Order. "This is one of the best 9/11 films I've ever seen. It covers the broad spectrum of facts exposing the globalists' orchestration of 9/11." -- Alex Jones"

8/27/2005 1:50:25 PM

^^that website was especially interesting. shows a lot of the fuck-ups by the gov't

8/27/2005 9:13:54 PM

A-3 Hit Pentagon, Not Boeing 757
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=89&contentid=2246

Quote :

"The cover story that a Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 is being discredited by private contractors who say that Douglas A-3 Sky Warriors were retrofitted with missiles, remote control systems, transponders, and new navigation systems by secret military teams working at at Fort Collins - Loveland Municipal Airport, writes investigative journalist Tom Flocco, citing new information from defense contractor Karl Schwarz, CEO of a company that designs remote control aircraft for the U.S. Army. Schwarz told Flocco that witnesses to this retrofitting were afraid because of "suicides, car wrecks, mysterious deaths,directly related to the aviation experts working on the systems installed on the A-3’s." "There are about 150 retired and active U.S. military and federal intelligence officers who will come forward and testify regarding government involvement in the September 11 attacks -- but only if there is a serious criminal grand jury," Schwarz said. Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) photos from the Pentagon show aircraft parts from a small jet similar to a modified A-3 Sky Warrior--not the American Airlines Boeing 757."

Witnesses link missile to small military jet parts found at Pentagon on 9/11
http://tomflocco.com/fs/WitnessesLink.htm

9-11 Pentagon Plane Identified? A3 SkyWarrior with missles
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/01/307126.shtml

[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 10:54 AM. Reason : 1]

8/28/2005 10:52:28 AM

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/32348.htm

Quote :

"On the Heels Of Death Threats Coming Out Of Washington, WTC Janitor Has Jersey City Apartment Burglarized Journalist Wayne Madsen has left Washington over death threats and William Rodriguez, 9/11 truth-seeker, had his apartment burglarized. Both fit the description of the person supposedly targeted by the government. August 27, 2005 By Greg Szymanski Coming on the heels of reports today that government operatives are trying to assassinate someone highly critical of the Bush administration, William Rodriguez, the WTC janitor who has been speaking out across the nation about a 9/11 government conspiracy, came home to find his Jersey City apartment burglarized Saturday. Rodriguez, who has damaging eye-witness testimony that bombs exploded in the WTC basement prior to the airplanes striking, said today his apartment was burglarized between 12:30pm and 7:50pm after retuning home and noticing his second-floor apartment door wide-open. Rodriguez immediately filed a police report with Jersey City police, but there are no leads or suspects in the case, as neighbors also reported seeing nothing while Rodriguez was out. “I came home to find my door open,” said Rodriguez in a telephone conversation Saturday night from his apartment just after police left the crime scene. “They didn’t destroy the place, but took my lap top with all my vital information, as well as one of my video cameras and all of my girl friend’s jewelry, including an expensive engagement ring.” Rodriguez expressed concern over the burglary since earlier in the day he received a “warning email” from contacts close to Washington investigative journalist Wayne Madsen, who received credible information his life may be in danger. Rodriguez was notified because he also fits the description of the potential government target, as the inside intelligence source that leaked the information to Madsen said the target was not specifically mentioned by name, but fits the description of both Madsen and Rodriguez. “I just received this email this morning, warning that someone who fits my description is going to be targeted,” said Rodriguez, concerning the communication highly sensitve communication he received from John Caylor, a friend of Madsen who is spreading the word to others potentially in danger."

8/29/2005 12:23:56 AM

quit being a fucking tard, salisburyboy

8/29/2005 12:30:21 AM

Quote :

""On the Heels Of Death Threats Coming Out Of Washington, WTC Janitor Has Jersey City Apartment Burglarized"

i dont even know wtf that means

8/29/2005 12:44:48 AM

An A3 Skywarrior? Why use a navy aircraft that was retired almost 20 years ago? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use any of the 757s or 767s that the military owns and operates on a daily basis?

Quote :

"Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) photos from the Pentagon show aircraft parts from a small jet similar to a modified A-3 Sky Warrior--not the American Airlines Boeing 757.""

Can you find us these photos? How about some part numbers?



That looks absolutely nothing like a 757. To make a case for this, you have to ignore all eyewitness testimony and find some hard proof to back up your claims. Please do this if you would like to continue this line of speculation.

............

Wow. A janitor's apartment in Jersey City was burglarized and you blame the government. Have you ever been to Jersey City?

Quote :

"“I came home to find my door open,” said Rodriguez in a telephone conversation Saturday night from his apartment just after police left the crime scene. “They didn’t destroy the place, but took my lap top with all my vital information, as well as one of my video cameras and all of my girl friend’s jewelry, including an expensive engagement ring.”"

Because regular burglars don't steal things like laptops, video cameras, and jewelry.

8/29/2005 12:30:55 PM

Quote :

""Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) photos from the Pentagon show aircraft parts from a small jet similar to a modified A-3 Sky Warrior--not the American Airlines Boeing 757.""

was it not salisburybot who insisted so diligently that there was never ANY aircraft debris found in the wreckage? seems to me like someone is using contradictory conspiracy theories here.

8/29/2005 1:30:20 PM

News contradicts itself = OMF CONSPIRACY!!!11!1

Salisburyboy contradicts himself = da troof

8/29/2005 1:37:29 PM

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html

Quote :

"A rich vein of city records from Sept. 11, including more than 12,000 pages of oral histories rendered in the voices of 503 firefighters, paramedics, and emergency medical technicians, were made public on Aug. 12. The New York Times has published all of them. The oral histories of dispatch transmissions are transcribed verbatim. They have have not been edited to omit coarse language. "

salisburyboy fodder

but seriously, some of this stuff is good.

8/29/2005 2:21:34 PM

Quote :

"brianj320: "was it not salisburybot who insisted so diligently that there was never ANY aircraft debris found in the wreckage?"

No. I do believe that some type of "aircraft" hit the Pentagon (whether it be a missile or some other aircraft). My main point all along has been that a Boeing 757 did NOT hit the Pentagon. It would be quite silly for me to have ever stated that "there was never any aircraft debris found." I never said that.

What I have said is that there was nowhere near enough wreckage and aircraft debris found in and around the Pentagon to be consistant with a Boeing 757 crashing at the Pentagon.

I see you are trying your luck at shooting down straw man arguments like the others. Better luck next time.




[Edited on August 29, 2005 at 11:52 PM. Reason : 4]

8/29/2005 11:46:33 PM

Why can't you answer my questions?

8/30/2005 12:07:14 AM

Do I really need to explain this to you again? I don't like to waste my time answering silly questions posed by morons whose main purpose is to spread disinformation and distract me from more important tasks.

8/30/2005 12:37:53 AM

OMG!!! YOU SLANDERED ME!!!! Don't you know that slander is a tool used by the NWO to silence oponents who can destroy their story? Isn't that exactly what you're doing?

So calling me a moron isn't a way for you to attempt to dismiss me and avoid answering questions and defending your wild claims? The truth is that you cannot answer my questions. Your conspiracy theories are to flimsy to withstand any sort of examination by a rational human being.

I'll try again:

Quote :

"An A3 Skywarrior? Why use a navy aircraft that was retired almost 20 years ago? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use any of the 757s or 767s that the military owns and operates on a daily basis? Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) photos from the Pentagon show aircraft parts from a small jet similar to a modified A-3 Sky Warrior--not the American Airlines Boeing 757." Can you find us these photos? How about some part numbers? That looks absolutely nothing like a 757. To make a case for this, you have to ignore all eyewitness testimony and find some hard proof to back up your claims. Please do this if you would like to continue this line of speculation."

Whats so ridiculous about those questions?

[Edited on August 30, 2005 at 12:48 AM. Reason : CONSPIRACY!!!]

8/30/2005 12:47:07 AM

http://www.freedomunderground.org/view.php?v=3&t=3&aid=19296

Quote :

" 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB : Everything else is a Distraction, The BRAINWASHING of the American people August 29, 2005 We are 2 weeks away from the 4 year anniversary of 9/11. And still NO one in the mainstream media as even addressed the TRUTH about that horrific day. It doesnt matter to them that it can be prooved that the buildings fell because of controlled demolition and not from the planes hitting the buildings. It doesnt matter that there are countless witnesses includeing WTC workers and FDNY and NYPD officials who heard the explosions and saw the bombs going off. There are countless US government and Officials from around the world who have come out and blown the whistle that it was an inside job. That certain factions of the US government helped and allowed it to happen. The tragedy of that day was used as a pretext to war, and to further the agenda of the global elite. The alternative media has EXPOSED it for what it really was. The US government cant even show any solid evidence to back up their wild conspiracy theory that it was 19 muslims from the caves of al queda. There is however "OPERATION NORTHWOODS" a US government plan to do the exact same thing with terrorists using box cutters, but that has been ignored. The Governments "proof" is a 571 page ommission of facts, and fabricated evidence. Not by an independent investigation, as that would have taken away valuable resources from the so called war on terror. But instead by a panel put together by the criminals in charge. A complete and utter whitewash. They have released none of the video camera's from the pentagon area. The only frames available to the public were leaked and clearly show NO boeing 757. The witnesses have all been silenced."

8/30/2005 5:53:50 PM

Another website...

http://www.question911.com/

Many videos available for downloading.

The secret evil's of 9/11 - 20 minute video - to the point about controlled demolitions
http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=SecretEvilOf911.wmv

[Edited on August 30, 2005 at 6:33 PM. Reason : 1]

8/30/2005 6:29:58 PM

Quote :

"It doesnt matter to them that it can be prooved that the buildings fell because of controlled demolition and not from the planes hitting the buildings. It doesnt matter that there are countless witnesses includeing WTC workers and FDNY and NYPD officials who heard the explosions and saw the bombs going off."

lie, lie and lie. all these points have been refuted by real evidence, real credible engineering data, and real eyewitness testimony (not-edited) only to be ignored. try reading the links that WE post and not just ur slanted, 1 sided bullshit.

8/30/2005 9:11:15 PM

New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers
40 second video clip: http://www.prisonplanet.com/032404firefightersdiscuss.html *MUST SEE*


9/11 Firefighters: Bombs and Explosions in the WTC
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html

8/31/2005 10:55:23 AM

Top Politicians, Economists, Other Leaders State 9/11 Possibly an Inside Job
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911

9/9/2005 3:04:11 PM

bttt

9/11/2005 12:29:38 PM

why?...why would u bttt this?

9/11/2005 12:32:13 PM

GEE I DONT KNOW

9/11/2005 12:35:57 PM

That boy is going to wear Google out.

9/11/2005 3:43:23 PM

http://microword911conspiracy.ytmnd.com/

9/12/2005 2:56:19 AM

el oh el

9/12/2005 4:26:30 PM

Get a load of these fuckers:
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0537,fergusonweb2,67726,2.html

Quote :

"9-11 Conspiracists Invade Ground Zero The alt.truth crowd takes its message to the memorial service, ‘The New York Times’, and a great big punk concert by Sarah Ferguson September 12th, 2005 11:05 AM Preaching to the uncoverted at Ground Zero. photo: Sarah Ferguson The anguish was palpable at Ground Zero yesterday, as family members made their way down a long ramp into the vast emptiness of the World Trade Center site, then took turns reading out the names of their lost loved ones. "We love you, Georgie. We'll see you soon," pledged the parents of a fallen firefighter, their sad voices broadcast to the crowds of grieving onlookers milling quietly around the perimeter. Into this somber setting marched about a dozen 9-11 conspiracists, who claimed a patch of sidewalk to preach what they called the truth. "These people weren't killed by Arab terrorists. You've been lied to!" shouted a woman who looked vaguely like Joey Ramone, holding up one end of a banner that read, "9-11 World Trade Center: Controlled Demolition." Her name was Lisa Giuliani and she broadcasts her theories though a Pennsylvania grassroots video collective called Wing TV. "

9/12/2005 8:08:31 PM

Quote :

"shouted a woman who looked vaguely like Joey Ramone, holding up one end of a banner that read, "9-11 World Trade Center: Controlled Demolition.""

its amazing when these people are shown real, credible, actual proof of what happened but still believe their bullshit conspiracy leaders. i swear, its like a cult.

9/12/2005 9:37:02 PM

Quote :

"shouted a woman who looked vaguely like Joey Ramone"

hahaha, you know she isn't getting any.

9/12/2005 10:41:36 PM

Joey Ramone died on 4/15/01

Joey Ramone's original name was Jeff Hyman. Hyman is a 5 letter jewish surname.

4 + 5 = 9

15 - 4 = 11

GET IT? 9/11!!!

There you have it, indisputable proof that the frontman of the Ramones was a part of the elitist jew conspiracy to use the attacks on 9/11 as a step towards their goals. Perhaps he knew too much and was 'suicided' by an NWO assassin squad trained in killing targets via lymphatic cancer.

I'm going to start my own website to get the truth out to all of those brave enough to question the "official story".

9/12/2005 10:51:47 PM

George W. Bush’s 9/11 Reichstag fire
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9642


http://www.rense.com/general67/benefits.htm

Quote :

"911 - Who Benefits? When a crime is committed the first thing that should be done is to look for a motive. Who benefits? Who gained the most after the crime was committed? Most crimes have been solved that way throughout history. Finding out who benefited the most sometimes is not easy to determine. Many times the real benefits are hidden. It may take time for the real benefits to be seen especially when the crime has been well organized and well planned by cunning planners. Having people believe that a major undertaking like 911 was done by some blind senseless Arabs, who want to exercise rage against America, is a ploy to keep eyes away from looking at the true beneficiaries of the event and therefore finding the real culprits. It is amazing to observe how Americans could watch numerous movies about criminal frame-ups but the possibility never enters their mind that one could really happen in real life especially when the stakes are high. They seem to be oblivious to the fact that maybe the clever culprits who were able to pull off something as sophisticated as 911 were able to escape blame and at the same time walk away with tons of benefits that would otherwise make a thinking mind suspicious. Then at the same time leave Qurans, Arabic flight instruction manuals, etc in cars, fake videos, absolutely indestructible passport, and other planted evidence to make the ones who gain no benefit take the blame for something that brought the clever culprit unimaginable gains. Besides who gains the most, we also need to look at who has the means to commit the crime and also the resources to cover their guilt. It has already been pointed out that for committing the crime of attacking the US on 911, the country that best fulfills a good detective description for motive, gains and having resources to cover their actions is Israel. Along with having motive and resources to commit 911, Zionists have a long history of committing acts against the US, other countries, other Jews and allies and having someone else blamed for them. What is more interesting is that they have been caught many times playing the part of the clever criminal seeking to gain benefits and have someone else blamed for their crimes. The Jewish pogroms in Europe, the deliberate terrorism committed by Jews in Arab countries and throughout the world to force Jews to flee to Israel, the Zionists complicity with the Nazis for murdering innocent Jews for ulterior goals as seen in the "holocaust", the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty Attack, the German discotheque bombing blamed on Qadhafi and even the attempted Mexican Congress bombing, where Israelis were caught red handed with explosives and Pakistani passports on their persons, and many other examples show a definite pattern for Israel. "

9/13/2005 6:14:10 PM

must be time for your stupid quote-bombing again

9/13/2005 6:23:06 PM

Quote :

"Intelligent discussion on American TV and radio has now taken a back seat to a sort of childish one-upmanship. It’s no longer a question of who can thrust and parry their opponent into a corner through the use of beautiful English phrasing and logic; it’s now a question of who can belittle the other with snappy (but rude) one-liners. This has affected the mainstream population in its daily affairs, in that the ordinary people come to believe that this is the way to win an argument. Substance and logic all take a back seat to name-calling. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10254.htm"

Funny that I read this shortly after you spazzed out and posted this comment on like 6 or 7 threads.

9/13/2005 6:34:43 PM

yes. and instead of actually wondering why EVERYONE says the same thing to you, you attack me. keep up the good work. oh, and thx for the quote-bomb. I was starting to think you were actually capable of talking without referencing prisonplanet et al...

9/13/2005 6:40:39 PM

Quote :

"Substance and logic all take a back seat to name-calling."

Sadly, salisburyboy has no regard for substance and logic.

9/13/2005 9:42:45 PM

9-11 truth protesters march in NYC around 4th anniversery of attacks
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_lies_under.html

Quote :

"9-11 LIES UNDER FIRE [...] “The 9-11 truth will be told. Bush and Cheney will be indicted for treason and murder. And immediately . . .the killing and illegal war in Iraq [will be stopped].” These were the strong and poignant words ringing through the streets of New York Sunday as more than 250 9-11 truth protesters marched carrying “Impeach Bush” and “9-11 Inside Job” signs. The rally started at The New York Times Building and ended at the UN. Organized by members of the web site, ny911truth.org, the rally was called to vent anger and make the public aware of the concerted effort by the mainstream media and the government to keep the truth about what really happened on 9-11 from the American people. Although the corporate-elite media came out earlier in the day in force to cover the Ground Zero activities in honor of the 9-11 victims on the fourth anniversary of the tragedy, the mainstream media was predictably absent from protest rally just like it has been purposely absent for four years in covering compelling stories that contradict the government’s official account. "

9/19/2005 12:32:45 PM

250 protestors...to indict Bush and Cheney with treason and murder...with no evidence

Good luck!

9/19/2005 12:34:29 PM

Quote :

"with no evidence"

KEY POINT

[Edited on September 19, 2005 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .]

9/19/2005 1:18:31 PM

Quote :

"the mainstream media was predictably absent from protest rally just like it has been purposely absent for four years in covering compelling stories that contradict the government’s official account."

They were also predictably absent from my protest against invisible dragons. What are they hiding?

9/19/2005 2:08:07 PM

9/25/2005 7:38:27 PM

So after 34 pages of this, you think that one picture is suddenly going to convince the world of something? Please stay away from the internet.

9/25/2005 7:45:34 PM

New 9/11 website:

http://www.911proof.com/

9/29/2005 8:50:26 AM

Quote :

""

obviously you know nothing of structural engineering

9/29/2005 8:56:52 AM

Well, I'm sure the WTC Construction Manager ought to know something about the engineering and design of the WTC towers...

WTC Construction Manager: Towers Were Designed to Take Numerous Plane Crashes
short video clip: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/141104designedtotake.htm

Also...

WTC Construction Certifiers Say Towers Should Have Easily Withstood Jet Fuel Temperatures
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/121104easilywithstood.htm


Oh, and just TOTALLY IGNORE the MOUNTAIN of evidence demonstrating that explosives/bombs went off in the WTC towers on the morning of 9/11.

9/29/2005 10:08:03 AM

New Mexico Tech demolitions expert Van Romero stated the day of the attack that he believed explosive devices caused the collapse of the WTC towers. His statements were published in the Albuquerque Journal. The article is below. Strangely, days later Romero retracted his statements, and the paper published another article quoting Romero as now "believing" the official story (ie, that the fires caused the collapses).

http://prisonplanet.com/Fire_Not_Extra_Explosives_Doomed_Buildings_Expert_Says.htm

Quote :

"Explosives Planted In Towers, N.M. Tech Expert Says By Olivier Uyttebrouck Journal Staff Writer Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday. The collapse of the buildings appears "too methodical" to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse," Romero said. Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures. Romero said he based his opinion on video aired on national television broadcasts. Romero said the collapse of the structures resembled those of controlled implosions used to demolish old structures. "It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that," Romero said in a phone interview from Washington, D.C. Romero said he and another Tech administrator were on a Washington-area subway when an airplane struck the Pentagon. He said he and Denny Peterson, vice president for administration and finance, were en route to an office building near the Pentagon to discuss defense-funded research programs at Tech. If explosions did cause the towers to collapse, the detonations could have been caused by a small amount of explosive, he said. "It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points," Romero said. The explosives likely would have been put in more than two points in each of the towers, he said. The detonation of bombs within the towers is consistent with a common terrorist strategy, Romero said. "One of the things terrorist events are noted for is a diversionary attack and secondary device," Romero said. Attackers detonate an initial, diversionary explosion that attracts emergency personnel to the scene, then detonate a second explosion, he said. Romero said that if his scenario is correct, the diversionary attack would have been the collision of the planes into the towers. Tech President Dan Lopez said Tuesday that Tech had not been asked to take part in the investigation into the attacks. Tech often assists in forensic investigations into terrorist attacks, often by setting off similar explosions and studying the effects."

original address of article: http://www.abqjournal.com/aqvan09-11-01.htm
search for archive of the article here: http://www.archive.org/

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 10:39 AM. Reason : 1]

9/29/2005 10:30:42 AM

Quote :

"Civil engineers and the official report concluded that the collapse of 1 and 2 WTC occurred because of the following series of events: the impact of the aircraft both damaged a large number of the external structural supports of the building, and dislocated fireproofing from a large numbers of others. The explosion of the aircraft and the fuel ignited the contents of the floors around impact. This began compromising individual support structures. When enough had failed, this began a chain reaction where the buildings "pancaked" downward, each floor destroying the support of the floor below it. Intuitively many people think that the buildings should have "tipped over". This misapprehension has caused a great deal of speculation that some form of controlled demolition would have been required. Instead, for very tall buildings the reverse is true: before the building could "tip" over, enough structural supports would have to be separated to cause floors to fall downwards. This was seen as parts of the outside of the towers did indeed fall laterally, peeling away from the rest of the structure. [8] The conclusion drawn is that the buckling of the horizontal steel supports separated them from the vertical supports. The horizontal steel floors were supported by trusses which were inadequately fireproofed and hence the steel supports softened when exposed to fire and failed. This failure caused the floor to fall downwards. When a floor failed completely, this set off a chain reaction where the floor fell, sheared away the floor below it, and then the combined mass fails even more quickly. This process was considerably slower than the terminal velocity of the rubble alone, but faster than the terminal velocity of relatively small objects that people are generally familiar with, which have much higher surface area to volume ratios, and are generally less dense. In short, two important intuitive notions on how things fall - that objects are rigid enough to tip, and terminal velocity of objects, caused untrained observers to conclude that the way in which the towers fell resembled a process called "controlled demolition". This is because they fell straight down, at a slightly lower velocity than that of an object in free-fall, with each floor showing little resistance. Some who believe in a conspiracy theory about the attacks continue to press the "controlled demolition" claim."

9/29/2005 10:38:49 AM

i get pissed at those people who say a plane didnt hit the pentagon. what about the motherfuckers that were ON the plane? Or the people who called home and said "oh shit, we're headed to washington"

9/29/2005 10:44:08 AM

Let's just get into the evidence of explosive devices in the WTC towers:

New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers
40 second video clip: http://www.prisonplanet.com/032404firefightersdiscuss.html

NY City Fireman: "On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building."
People Magazine article: http://www.prisonplanet.com/louie_cacchioli.html

Security expert interviewed on CNN, after commenting on the secondary explosions, asked "whether in fact there wasn't something else at the base of the towers that in fact were the coup de grace to bring them to the ground"
short video clip: http://terrorize.dk/911/comments/911.wtc.secondary.explosions.jeffrey.beatty.wmv

NY Fire Department Chief of Safety stated there were "bombs" and "secondary devices", which caused the explosions in the buildings
audio here: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SecondaryDevices.mp3


I'll just stop right there for now. There's a whole lot more evidence of explosives in the WTC towers.

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 10:53 AM. Reason : 1]

9/29/2005 10:51:32 AM

i dont see any EVIDENCE per se

9/29/2005 10:52:48 AM