NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
This is really unbelievable. No matter how shitty the Mets play week to week come Monday morning their lead is EXACTLY the same in the division... it's eerie. 8/12/2007 10:44:41 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ reminds me of some of the Braves years in the 90s. No matter how shitty the Braves played, it seemed like the Mets, Phillies, Marlins could never quite close the gap enough to take over the division lead. The Mets have that luxury now of sitting on top and forcing someone to get hot enough to actually displace them. 8/13/2007 3:29:32 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
mmmm, was at citizen's bank last night. good game, good game. that ryan howard shot was the highest i've ever seen a baseball go. 8/13/2007 4:45:49 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
8/14/2007 10:25:31 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
such a worthless piece of fat shit. why can we no longer find a closer worth a damn 8/14/2007 10:26:34 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
probably the 3rd worst closer in baseball, just in front of todd jones and joe borowski 8/14/2007 10:36:08 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
if we had a good closer....our team would be really good. We would atleast have somewhere between 7-10 more wins than we do right now 8/14/2007 11:01:12 PM |
maverick31 Veteran 413 Posts user info edit post |
get it bobby... 1st all time in ejections 8/15/2007 12:23:26 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Read on the AJC today that the Braves had 7 blown saves in 33 opps in the 1st half and now have 7 blown saves in 12 opps in the second half already. Losing Mike Gonzalez hurts more every fucking day. Luckily we pulled last night's game out. Hitters who leadoff an inning against fatty must be hitting atleast .500 and the OBP is probably around .750 given the walks he allows. 8/15/2007 11:34:57 AM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
Guy just got escorted out for holding a "Bonds Cheated" sign up behind home plate while Barry was at the plate...pretty big sign. 8/15/2007 7:46:09 PM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
^Thats some bullshit
Quote : | "if we had a good closer....our team would be really good." |
If they had traded for a good starter and moved Smoltz to the bullpen like I have been suggestion, this would not be an issue. Garland is equal enough to Smoltz that he could have been traded for and we wouldn't have misssed Smoltz as a starter. Its not like the guy is 15-0 this year, but he would def be a major upgrade as a closer.8/15/2007 8:14:59 PM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
Bobby Cox with ejection # 133 8/15/2007 8:26:44 PM |
maverick31 Veteran 413 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If they had traded for a good starter and moved Smoltz to the bullpen like I have been suggestion, this would not be an issue. " |
wrong. smoltz and huddy have been stellar this year as far as i'm concerned so theres no logical reason to move your number 1a starter to the bullpen where his shoulder would be under more stress. smoltz wants to start and he'll be a starter the rest of his career. this is why john schuerholz is the gm and you aren't.
[Edited on August 15, 2007 at 8:46 PM. Reason : ]8/15/2007 8:41:53 PM |
chargercrazy All American 2695 Posts user info edit post |
Barry finally made use of those performance enhancing drugs he's taken for something positive for the game . . . escorting Klesko to the dugout after he was thrown out of the game. 8/15/2007 8:47:39 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, and then continues his cheating ways by homering. fucker 8/15/2007 9:17:41 PM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wrong. smoltz and huddy have been stellar this year as far as i'm concerned so theres no logical reason to move your number 1a starter to the bullpen where his shoulder would be under more stress. smoltz wants to start and he'll be a starter the rest of his career. this is why john schuerholz is the gm and you aren't.
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Smoltz has been "stellar" as far as the Braves starting rotation has been concerned. Which isn't saying much at all. No offense to Smoltz or Huddy, but I would hope, given that roster of pitching, they would be stellar. The sad part is, compared to the rest of the NL, Smoltz hasn't been "stellar" He has been good, Garland was/is also good. But Garland didn't have any experience as a closer, Smoltz does. So replace Smoltz with Garland in the SR and move Smoltz to closer. You can't tell me the Braves would be any worse off with Smoltz as the closer and Garland replacing him in the SR. 7 blown saves out of 12 since the break. OUCH. But hey, what do I know, JS only has one more WS than me. And last time I checked, the GM didn't make position moves, Bobby did. As much as I love the Braves, thinking like this is one of the reasons we only have ONE WS to show in the last 15 years.8/15/2007 9:46:15 PM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
you cant tell me you think it'd be a good move to take a 40 year old pitcher and move him to closer for the 2nd time in his career. It's hard enough having to make that switch 1 time, but 2 times for a 40 year old pitcher with as many IP's as he has would be a horrible "risk" to take and I would not be comfortable making it with the heart of our baseball team. 8/15/2007 10:26:55 PM |
bjwilli2 Veteran 405 Posts user info edit post |
^^Schuerholz has 2 more WS than you do. And moving Smoltz back to closer is a great idea for me to poop on. 8/15/2007 11:23:08 PM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
How about you go ask ole Johnny S how trading for Hampton worked out. Nothing like having your highest paid player on the bench for almost 2 seasons. And sure he has made some good trades, and its lead to some championships and ONE World Series. But the fucking Marlins managed to win more World Series in the same stretch than the Braves. And with who? And who was their GM? Thats right, nobody knows or cares. The Braves have turned into a corporate team who don't care about winning, only the bottom line. They traded for Tex, I will give them that, but unless they sign him long term, and or Andruw, they are a failure. 8/16/2007 12:56:37 AM |
maverick31 Veteran 413 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And last time I checked, the GM didn't make position moves, Bobby did." |
right, but tell me how you expected to aquire garland or anybody to replace smoltz without JS?
get real man8/16/2007 12:59:06 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
JS does not make the ROSTER moves you fucking idiot.
That was pretty obvious to everyone except morons like you I suppose.
[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 1:07 AM. Reason : .] 8/16/2007 1:07:17 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Smoltz has been "stellar" as far as the Braves starting rotation has been concerned. Which isn't saying much at all. No offense to Smoltz or Huddy, but I would hope, given that roster of pitching, they would be stellar. The sad part is, compared to the rest of the NL, Smoltz hasn't been "stellar" He has been good" |
wow that's some bullshit
stats time
smoltz is 10-6 with a 1.263 WHIP and a 3.09 ERA (6th lowest in the NL, Hudson is 5th and the first four are all in the west)
he also has 18 quality starts, giving him the 3rd highest QS% in the NL
among pitchers with 140+ IP, he's 5th in K/9 and 2nd in K/BB
most importantly he as a DIPS under 3.00, only chris young is lower, which is amazing considering smoltz's BIPA is .310
admittedly, garland is pitching in a tougher league and tougher division on a weaker team, but his stats don't touch smoltzie's
so
what the fuck are you talking about
[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 1:19 AM. Reason : is this guy fagyver?]8/16/2007 1:16:22 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "admittedly, garland is pitching in a tougher league and tougher division on a weaker team, but his stats don't touch smoltzie's
so
what the fuck are you talking about" |
If Garland was on the Braves, a much better team, in a weaker league, it would be safe to say that his stats would be close enough to move Smoltz to the pen, and replace him with JG and not even notice, and the pen would be oh so much better. I really dont see the pen, with Smoltz in it, blowing 7 of 12. Do you?
[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 1:23 AM. Reason : h]8/16/2007 1:23:04 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
beats me, i'm not a sage
the point is we don't have garland so your point not only moot, but also inane
you can't solely blame JS for not making a trade, god knows what batshit crazy kenny williams wanted in return
Quote : | "How about you go ask ole Johnny S how trading for Hampton worked out. Nothing like having your highest paid player on the bench for almost 2 seasons. And sure he has made some good trades, and its lead to some championships and ONE World Series. But the fucking Marlins managed to win more World Series in the same stretch than the Braves. And with who? And who was their GM? Thats right, nobody knows or cares. The Braves have turned into a corporate team who don't care about winning, only the bottom line. They traded for Tex, I will give them that, but unless they sign him long term, and or Andruw, they are a failure." |
i didn't read this gem until just now
in the ten seasons before 2005, mike hampton had never made less than 24 starts and only twice was he below 30 (95 and 96) -- what was schuerholz thinking!
dave dombrowski was the marlins GM in 97, he's now the GM of the tigers
proving your ignorance is a great way to convince someone you're right
and you're mad because JS hasn't signed andruw long term?
jesus christ
first, the braves brass rarely if ever negotiates contracts during the season
second, his agent is scott boras
third, andruw fucking sucks dick
[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 1:31 AM. Reason : ]
i almost forgot
hampton is making a dump truck full of cash, but a lot of it (maybe as much as half, i'm not looking it up) is covered by the rockies. and last season most of it was dropped thanks to insurance
[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 1:35 AM. Reason : ]8/16/2007 1:30:57 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
^just the fact that he calls not resigning andruw after this season a "failure" should give you all reason to just ignore his dumbass. Andruw will never be the same again. He has too many flaws that pitchers know about now. It just won't happen. Not to mention that his defense is declining as well 8/16/2007 1:44:26 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
Hilarious that you call for ignoring me, yet you just replied indirectly to everything that I suggested. Hilarity indeed! 8/16/2007 1:53:20 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
^i said he should ignore you. I didnt say a word about what i should do 8/16/2007 1:54:01 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
And because of that little bit, I win!
And for this, I thank you.
8/16/2007 1:56:59 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
RoyalFlush:
Please stop posting your gay idea of moving Smoltz back to the pen as a closer and trading for John fucking Garland. It didn't happen, it won't happen, the Braves don't have anything they can trade for Garland anyway.
Also why the hell are you so hung up on John fucking Garland. He is not even that important to his own team. Plus he would not be able to duplicate the results Smoltz gives the Braves and Smoltz has already said 100 times that he will not go back to closing. It wears his arm out having to get loose or pitch in 80% of the games.
Face it, your idea sucked and if you were running the Braves, we would be worse than the Natspos and would have traded Escobar, Salt, Elvis, Harrison, Kelly Johnson, McCann, and Chipper to get John fucking Garland. 8/16/2007 12:52:52 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Aug 15 Renteria (sprained ankle) may be ready to return by the end of the weekend, according to the Braves' official Web site.
Recommendation: He jumped up in the dugout to complain about the umpiring during Tuesday's game, which is a good sign." |
I lol'd8/16/2007 2:18:47 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
I just wish there was a better explanation for what Hernandez was seeing out there. I can't think of a single RH pitcher that doesn't have a pick off move exactly like what Tim was doing last night. It's damn near impossible for you to turn to throw without your leg flinching. Nothing he did I could see as being a deliberate act of deceit towards the hitter or runner. Just mind-boggling, really. 8/16/2007 4:09:41 PM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not hung up on John Garland, I merely mention his name because he was the only notable SP that the Braves were interested in. 8/16/2007 4:20:06 PM |
andre43 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
Suppose the Braves had gotten Garland at the deadline. Why would they move Smoltz to closer. They could just go Smoltz, Hudsen, Garland, James, Carlyle. Bumping James and Carlyle back to the 4 and 5 spots would benifit so much more then replacing Wickman and leaving the starting rotation the same (Thats assuming that Garland could perform like smoltz). Remember Wickman was on fire last year, and he can get it back 8/16/2007 4:38:20 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^^ The Braves had interest in Bronson Arroyo and Kevin Millwood as well. Garland is better than both those guys, but none of them would have made a major contribution in the playoff push. 8/16/2007 4:58:12 PM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
True, I forgot you can see into the future. 8/16/2007 5:03:17 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "replace him with JG and not even notice, and the pen would be oh so much better. I really dont see the pen, with Smoltz in it, blowing 7 of 12." |
Quote : | "I forgot you can see into the future." |
Quote : | "I forgot you can see into the future." |
Quote : | "I forgot you can see into the future." |
Quote : | "I forgot you can see into the future." |
Quote : | "I forgot you can see into the future." |
Quote : | "I forgot you can see into the future." |
Quote : | "I forgot you can see into the future." |
Quote : | "I forgot you can see into the future." |
8/16/2007 5:05:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Btw...congratulations to Bobby Cox...he broke his record without the use of steroids 8/16/2007 5:25:32 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^^ ha ha 8/16/2007 5:29:29 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
geez, we really just enjoy matching the mets game for game 8/16/2007 10:21:53 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I would rather watch a Golden Girls marathon right now than the Mets bullpen.. pitiful performance tonight.
I need liquor. 8/16/2007 10:26:32 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Thank God for the Mets pen and the Pirates comeback.
Chuck James was throwing like a girl again last night. I only watched a couple of innings because I was so disgusted at how horrible and slow James's "fastball" looked. That dude is like Tim Wakefield. Sometimes he's really good, other times he is worse than Jose Lima.
Big series this weekend for the Braves versus the D-Backs. The Braves are running into a hot team and will have to face Brandon Webb and his 33 inning scoreless streak tonight. Plus Cormier is pitching tonight as well so we will lose on Friday. Hopefully we'll rebound and get Sat and Sunday's games.
Please for Mets and Phils to get swept this weekend! 8/17/2007 8:51:13 AM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
heading to the game 8/18/2007 6:04:51 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
great, about to be 5.5 games out of first. awesome time to be playing the hottest NL team 8/18/2007 9:59:52 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
2 run homer by Tex!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDHjGrbXiD4
LYRICS: VERSE 1 Four and a half games back and I don't Te-care-a You know why we got Mark Teixeira Got a new Braves jersey that I'm gonna wear-a And written on the back is Mark Teixeira The Mets are scared cause their lead's gonna narr-a They're lookin' over their shoulder at Mark Teixeira
Chorus: We got Fred McGriff back in '93 Hampton's out cause of injury Schuerholz smiles cause he is happy and Bobby says, "Let's go Mark T."
The National League it just ain't fair-a The Atlanta Braves got Mark Teixeira Chipper and Andruw make a mighty nice pair-a Let's make it a trio add Mark Teixeira A side effect is mild hysteria The medical reason is Mark Teixeira
Chorus
Bridge: Scott Thorman stinks and Julio is old What did Shuerholz do? Must've sold his Sooouuulll
Pitchers beware cause he's gonna scare ya Throw him a strike now if you dare-a He could probably steal on Yogi Berra(NOT Yogi Bear-a) Biggest thing in Georgia since Scarlet O'Hara If I were a woman I'd probably Marry ya.
And that's not Gay cause its Mark Teixeira
[Edited on August 19, 2007 at 1:24 PM. Reason : .] 8/19/2007 1:19:49 PM |
bkhardee All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
hahahhaa i was just about to look this up on youtube.. thats badass 8/19/2007 1:34:13 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
congrats to Smoltz, 2913 career strike outs and the franchise leader in SOs now. 8/19/2007 1:51:41 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
TEX! YOU DA FUCKIN MAIN!!!!!!
another 2 run HR to take the lead. 8/19/2007 2:01:43 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
What the fuck is up with that music on TBS? I can't believe that shithole channel has the NL playoffs this year...
Teixeria finally starting to hit? Was hitting .246 coming in to this game.. (also, ballpark at arlington is a better hitters park than anywhere in the NL if they didn't notice)...
[Edited on August 19, 2007 at 2:04 PM. Reason : go braves today... ari is tied with the fewest losses in the NL w/ the Mets] 8/19/2007 2:03:06 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
BULLSHIT. That hit above the yellow line 8/19/2007 2:25:49 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "such a worthless piece of fat shit. why can we no longer find a closer worth a damn" |
8/19/2007 3:55:20 PM |