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wdprice3
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"System Specs
Celeron 300a@450
Nvidia Riva TNT 2
128mb ram
20gb hd
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lol, really? this must be a joke/troll.

i'll bite anways

don't put vista on a machine with 128MB of ram... it won't even run. and a 20GB HDD is gonna be tough....

and 32-bit is all you need for ram up to 3.5GB. 4GB and up is where a 64 bit version comes in handy.



[Edited on November 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2009 4:48:15 PM

se7entythree
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i have a problem with xp mode. we need to install our network printers but we can't see them in explore while in xp. the network drives that we have mapped show up, but not the other 8 under our server. i've searched and searched and can't find anything that addresses this issue. halp!

11/9/2009 4:58:19 PM

Noen
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^you need to turn on device and folder mapping for the remote session. No idea how to do this with VirtualPC, but I know it can be done.

11/9/2009 5:03:28 PM

se7entythree
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thanks. i'm searching using those terms but haven't found anything useful yet either.

11/9/2009 5:23:44 PM

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"Do i want to go x64 or x86? Il talking vista ultimate

System Specs
Celeron 300a@450
Nvidia Riva TNT 2
128mb ram
20gb hd
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windows 98se is calling......








but x64 won't do shit on that processor.

11/9/2009 6:30:58 PM

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pretty sure it won't install, that celeron isn't a 64-bit processor

and 512mb of ram required for install as well.

[Edited on November 9, 2009 at 7:17 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2009 7:16:30 PM

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weird issue this morning....attached my laptop to the dock with second monitor attached and proceeded to use the extended desktop as normal. My laptop display is 1680x1050, second monitor is 1440x900. For some reason the desktop icons on my laptop screen were moved away from the right 1/5 and bottom 1/4 of the screen and I could not move them back to those areas. It seems like Windows forced my desktop to match the resolution of the second monitor, but webpages and programs still displayed in 1680x1050. Any ideas?

This all makes sense in my head but maybe not to whoever is reading it. I can clarify if necessary.

11/9/2009 7:22:22 PM

AntecK7
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It isnt working!

11/10/2009 8:59:26 AM

wdprice3
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^well, no shit

11/10/2009 9:09:38 AM

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I've been running Win 7 for a couple weeks now, and there are a couple issues really bugging me:

-I'm still getting the dreaded "atidkmag driver has crashed/recovered" issue with my video card. It sucks because it resets the display to what looks like 256 colors, and you have to reboot to fix it. I had this issue constantly in Vista, it's only happened twice in 7 so far. Still annoying...

-The Windows Explorer address bar remembers all your history (including the hidden folders you've visited), and there's no way to turn that off. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of hidden folders, IMO.

Other than that I'm really liking it.

11/10/2009 9:41:07 AM

wdprice3
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well your first issue is not a vista/W7 issue, it's whoever makes the driver... contact the manufacturer
the second issue... I haven't seen this... but I'll look again later today

11/10/2009 10:00:13 AM

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^I realize it's an ATI problem, but even though it seems pretty widespread they don't seem want to acknowledge it. I was just hoping the upgrade to 7 would fix the problem. IIRC, NVidia initially had the same problem when Vista came out (don't know if it still happens or not though).

11/10/2009 10:39:32 AM

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It takes too long to boot.

I'm talking two minutes before I'm able to do anything.

11/10/2009 10:57:11 AM

wdprice3
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mine isn't nearly that long. i'll time it next time

11/10/2009 11:09:55 AM

Shaggy
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i rarely, if ever, shut mine down.

11/10/2009 11:11:11 AM

God
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Well this is on a Netbook.

1.6ghz Atom, 2gb RAM, PATA SSD.

11/10/2009 11:22:51 AM

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Windows 7 boots in just over a minute on my almost 5 year old laptop (Pentium M 1.8Ghz, 2GB RAM, PATA HDD, Jan 2005) ... dunno what you're doing wrong.

[Edited on November 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2009 12:03:08 PM

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Oh, I get to the login screen quickly enough, but then once I log in it's another minute or so before the system is reasonably responsive.

11/10/2009 12:11:23 PM

wdprice3
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got many startup programs? on delayed start?

in other news, I just got a new display on my ~5 year old Dell Latitude... holy balls what a difference

[Edited on November 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2009 12:31:00 PM

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"on delayed start?"


what?

I have about 5 programs loading. An Intel media assistant, the Microsoft Spyware/Antivirus program, an EEE Tray utility, the Action Center, and I think that's it actually.

But the fucking "hard drive working" led is blazing like a goddamn inferno as soon as I log in, and Firefox won't load up until about a minute after I log in.

11/10/2009 12:34:16 PM

wdprice3
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yeh, none of that seems like it should bog it down.

have you tried doing a selective startup to help determine possible sources?

booting to safemode?

any peripherals/usb devices? I know on one of my notebooks, if I had my external HDD connected at startup, the internal HDD and external HDD would r/w for like 5 minutes each and I couldn't do a damn thing until it was finished doing whatever. it turned out, that a windows update was somehow installed on my external and that caused some major issues apparently. and that's another thing - when doing updates, disconnect peripherals before hand. i've had windows install updates on externals 4 or 5 times now..

and nvm about the delayed start... maybe that's a thing of the past (I know I've seen it before though, where you can select services to start after a delay, so not everything is loading at once/back to back).

[Edited on November 10, 2009 at 12:45 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on November 10, 2009 at 12:47 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2009 12:43:57 PM

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I think it may just be the PATA drive + Windows 7, I don't know. It's bizarrely slow on certain occasions. Like, I'll be typing something in google docs, and it will "lag" for about 10 seconds before the words fill in... just... randomly do stuff like that.

11/10/2009 12:47:20 PM

se7entythree
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we got the XP mode & printer situation fixed. you have to add the virtual machine as a real user on the domain. problem solved.

11/10/2009 1:30:02 PM

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good news: my windows 7 order has been upgraded from "Pending for fulfillment" to "Fulfillment in progress"

it might get here before the end of the month

11/10/2009 2:37:34 PM

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^^^i assume you're smart enough to do the usual start, run, msconfig thing and see if more shit is loading in the background that you dont actually see, yes?

11/10/2009 2:49:11 PM

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Yes

and also that wouldn't explain half of the delays using Firefox

[Edited on November 10, 2009 at 2:51 PM. Reason : ]

11/10/2009 2:49:53 PM

Shaggy
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how fast is the hdd?

11/10/2009 2:50:35 PM

God
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70mm PATA solid state drive.

11/10/2009 2:51:18 PM

quagmire02
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PATA + solid state = why?

11/10/2009 2:51:53 PM

God
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Blame Asus.

11/10/2009 2:52:43 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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oh, or that mfg too. asfd

[Edited on November 10, 2009 at 2:53 PM. Reason : asfd]

11/10/2009 2:53:22 PM

God
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Once I get $150 I plan on buying a SATA II Solid State Drive.

11/10/2009 2:55:39 PM

AntecK7
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Whats the difference between windows 7 and windows 7 n version?

11/10/2009 3:52:28 PM

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http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49303415,00.htm

11/10/2009 3:58:59 PM

Shaggy
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The N stands for no-one-is-going-to-buy-this

11/10/2009 4:04:02 PM

wdprice3
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how do you even stumble onto W7n? lololol

11/10/2009 4:09:38 PM

Prospero
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it's listed first in MSDN & Technet Subscriptions

11/10/2009 5:47:43 PM

SandSanta
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If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong.

MSDN>Version of windows whatever that says ultimatex64 > download.

11/10/2009 5:53:23 PM

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"It takes too long to boot.

I'm talking two minutes before I'm able to do anything."


Why aren't you using hibernate or sleep mode? There's no reason to shut the thing down completely. Welcome to the 21st century, dawg.

And it's definitely your hard disk causing the issues. Same thing in my roommate's netbook before we upgraded to a decent SSD, then the lagginess magically disappeared. Had the same problems in Linux and XP.

11/10/2009 8:21:46 PM

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No need to "sleep" or "hibernate" at night. I usually tend to use it in one sitting, and there aren't many periods where I need to power it off for two hours and then back on. If I did I'd use sleep mode.

11/10/2009 8:31:55 PM

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the power use is damn near nothing in sleep mode..no real reason to not use sleep mode overnight really. i've gone months without rebooting and just use sleep at night

11/10/2009 8:36:59 PM

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If you care about bootup times, you should just let it go into sleep mode overnight, and leave it plugged in. Sleep versus powered off is a cost difference of about 25 cents per month, and if you plug the netbook in, it won't go draining the battery.

I leave my notebook (1.6ghz Core2Duo) in sleep mode overnight all the time and it seems to eat about 15 minutes of battery life in that time (YMMV with a netbook). Well worth the time saved (4 seconds to resume from sleep, a minute or two to boot cold).

11/10/2009 8:46:00 PM

God
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I'll look into it, thanks.

11/10/2009 8:52:09 PM

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i can't put my HTPC to sleep or hibernate because the damn microsoft 8000 keyboard (bluetooth) is so sensitive that when i shut the front door, it wakes up the computer (seriously...it's annoying as hell)

i didn't have this problem on vista...though i don't know why it would start happening on win7

*shrug*

11/11/2009 7:50:34 AM

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you sure it's the keyboard? 'magic' packets or wake on lan might have been enabled by default with your w7 install, I'd check that

and you can also turn off wake on usb activity I believe

11/11/2009 9:54:47 AM

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i disabled wake on LAN...i don't know anything about the "magic" packets...i actually didn't think about disabling the wake on USB because the computer's power button is nuisance to reach (not hard, just annoying) and i like just wiggling the mouse or clicking a key, but i'd probably like putting it to sleep more than i dislike reaching up to turn it on

seriously, though...if i walk too heavily or close the front door, it turns on...i've tested it a number of times, including switching off the keyboard and leaving the mouse on (another option, of course) and it's the KEYBOARD that does it...strangeness

11/11/2009 10:11:49 AM

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try a different keyboard

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I'm actually trying to get WoL working, so I can ssh/rsync stuff from work. I was able to wake it up from actual shutdown, but I guess normally it sleeps and I'm not able to wake it from work. Anybody know any more about WoL? Do you have to do something different to wake it from sleep vs. powered off?

[Edited on November 11, 2009 at 10:36 AM. Reason : .]

11/11/2009 10:33:31 AM

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^ i don't have any other bluetooth keyboards

11/11/2009 10:34:17 AM

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Is there a separate wake on bluetooth setting? My BIOS has about 5 wake-on-something settings.

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You also may be able to fix it through the bluetooth or keyboard power settings in windows. If there's an "allow this device to wake the computer" setting for those like there is for network cards.

[Edited on November 11, 2009 at 10:38 AM. Reason : .]

11/11/2009 10:37:43 AM

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When i had the set point software installed for my wireless mouse, it would wake the computer every time it tried to go to sleep. It seems the software constantly communicates with the mouse for battery info or something else so it never let the computer sleep. Turning the mouse off or putting it on its charger (effectively turning off communication) fixed it. So I suppose you could try turning off the keyboard. Or, if you're using software that came with the keyboard, uninstall it and see if it still happens.

11/11/2009 10:41:55 AM

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