pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
OWS supporter: BobbyDigital from page 1: "Maybe it will take wall street executives being hung from their high rises for them to be taken seriously...
(not advocating, just sayin...)"
and this is only what a quasi 'meh' supporter of OWS is saying. ha 11/16/2011 4:21:05 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
oh yeah that bobbydigital, he's a real extremist radical
did you hear he's brown!?!? you'd better let the authorities know ASAP 11/16/2011 4:22:48 PM |
Marlo Veteran 275 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The unemployment rate was 4.6% in 2007. It's hovering around 10% right now." |
This is actually not true. Unemployment is not at 9%. It's much closer to 20%. Poverty in the United States is documented at around 15%. So it is mathematically impossible for unemployment to only be at 9%. The current unemployment statistics do not take into account the people who have been long-term unemployed, underemployed, or contract employees. I'm not sure if it even takes into account graduated students out of work, either.
If people knew the actual statistics, people would be less complacent and more upset with the direction of our economy and our governments deliberate attempt to do fuck-all to improve it and prevent another dip. Food for thought. The US economy has seen a net gain of ZERO jobs since 2001. Lazy-ass hippies, eh?
Quote : | "But what's going on in Zucotti Park is NOT that. It's a conglomeration of people who have no identity and are "protesting" for their own self-serving purpose... And that is why I mock it..." |
Oh word? So it's wrong for them to protest for their own self interests, but yet here you are crying (incorrectly, I should add) that some reform would put "people like you" out of work.
Quote : | "First hand accounts from people I know and trust, interviews, articles, etc.." |
You're getting your interviews from Opie and Anthony. You even admitted that yourself a few pages ago. Not exactly a reliable source to get a diverse cross-section of information, now is it?
[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM. Reason : ]11/16/2011 4:24:55 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^^ if you and the OWS'ers are right, then why are you all so angry all the time
[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 4:29 PM. Reason : ,] 11/16/2011 4:27:18 PM |
settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
yawn 11/16/2011 4:35:10 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh word? So it's wrong for them to protest for their own self interests, but yet here you are crying (incorrectly, I should add) that some reform would put "people like you" out of work." |
I'm absolutely not crying about it. I can't reiterate enough that I do agree with some of the supposed underlying themes that this movement stands for. But the fact is that, despite pockets of people within the larger group that are out there trying to make a positive change for those principles/themes/whatever there is an equally loud group who are out there just to promote their own self-interests with no real end goal.ccotti Park group)
And christ, man, this is Chit Chat. I started out just messing around in this thread talking about O&A. I'm not some drooling retard who gets all his news from shock jock radio, but I trust you realize that already. I have friends and family that live and work in Manhattan who have visited the site multiple times and have even taken part in the protest there in one form or another.
(also as a side note, as a native to the Tri-State area I focus nearly all my following of this movement on the NYC area and specifically the Zuccotti Park group)
[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 5:47 PM. Reason : cx]11/16/2011 5:46:03 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
11/16/2011 6:00:03 PM |
CheesyLabia Suspended 926 Posts user info edit post |
with winter coming up I would like to occupy somewhere a little further south until warmer weather returns
#OccupyFortLauderdaleFL
11/16/2011 11:11:45 PM |
ClassicMixup All American 3877 Posts user info edit post |
^I'm there now...though I'm not protesting Sort of on the other side of the fence lol. Way too muggy to be here in my opinion
also,
http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/8ee9b061c30da719fe0e6a70670014e3.jpg
on yahoo's frontpage...i mean come on...
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 12:35 AM. Reason : .] 11/17/2011 12:32:49 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Its people like this that compromise the whole movement
Quote : | " A week before police evicted protesters from Zuccotti Park, Tim Weldon quit his job in Connecticut to be closer to the Occupy Wall Street movement." |
11/17/2011 7:28:41 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
peter are you trolling? you don't seem that stupid
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 7:45 AM. Reason : .] 11/17/2011 7:44:12 AM |
dillydaliant All American 1991 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yeah, he's dedicated to something he believes in, what a tremendous asshole. 11/17/2011 8:50:26 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
So greece terrorist organizations are now running OWS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Organization_17_November "17N self-identified as Marxist, even Anarchist. In addition to assassinations, kidnappings, and symbolic attacks on corporate and government offices, 17N supported its operations with at least 11 bank robberies netting approximately US$ 3.5 million."
and now "randomly" today this from OWS.org http://occupywallst.org/article/poster-n17-mass-direct-action-print-and-post-freel/ openly admitting that it's nonviolent, yet invokes extremely violent memories of recent history. hmmm.. Gotta admit it has some creepy, USSR-esque feel.
WTF why do you want to occupy the subways of lower and middle class peoples mode of transportation?
what does that do besides piss off a bunch of new yorkers??
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 10:01 AM. Reason : ,] 11/17/2011 9:53:05 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1NwLcik2JA&feature=player_embedded
"Joe Rogan and the 99%"
I thought this was pretty good. The first 2/3 at least. The rant about stocks towards the end got on my nerves a bit.
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 11:07 AM. Reason : l] 11/17/2011 11:07:38 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Can't listen here but I'm sure it's comic gold to hear a comic speak about the stock market... 11/17/2011 11:59:35 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
This all still seems more like pissing into a headwind. 11/17/2011 11:59:48 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "peter are you trolling? you don't seem that stupid" |
Yes
This thread is just some good ol' Chit Chat for me.11/17/2011 12:08:28 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
LoL, that was pretty good though, has a nub of a point with a lot of this must be trolling added. 11/17/2011 12:10:35 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
You can always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half.
11/17/2011 12:13:10 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
Today I arrived in France from a long trip from Great Britain early in the morning. Then I had to travel by coach to Challiot, a place in Paris to meet with a fellow French aristocrat called Louis Pierre. First I rested for a bit at his mansion, and then we discussed business matters for about an hour. The deal we came up with seems to be very beneficial to both him and me. Then, Monsieur Pierre asked me if I wanted to go on a tour of the area. I was tired, but I agreed as to not look rude.
I was a bit shocked by what I saw. Although the area was relatively wealthy, there were dirty and despicable people with ragged clothes sitting down on the streets, begging for money. One man even grabbed hold of my pants, and I kicked him away. Monsieur Pierre laughed and told me that the peasants had gotten poorer during the last few years because of the wars France had been involved in.
Then, the man whom I kicked shouted something to me in French, and Monsieur Pierre looked a bit nervous. Of course I asked him to translate what the man had said for me, and he hesitantly did. The man had cursed at me, the nobles of France, and at King Louis. I was aghast and asked Monsieur Pierre if the man should not be arrested, but it seems that a lot of peasants are doing similar things these days. After I got back to Monsieur Pierre’s mansion, it took me a long time to sleep, pondering the situation of this country.
11/17/2011 12:39:49 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
11/17/2011 12:42:30 PM |
settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
PRYDERI YOU SUCK SO FUCKING MUCH
I HATE YOU
PLEASE STOP
FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST 11/17/2011 12:44:55 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
no. 11/17/2011 12:55:29 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
LOL.
Joe Rogen is a moron, however that doesn't mean he isn't right about a lot of the other things he's saying) he says 'they' don't want a educated population, then goes on to say how he can't understand stocks and bonds and such. 11/17/2011 12:57:15 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure pryderi is a republican.
He does the same shit that I do with my alias on Inside Carolina. I act like the most obnoxious, idiotic, ill-informed UNC homer on the planet to the point where I make UNC fans look bad, and most of the UNC fans hate me.
I'm guessing pryderi is a republican trolling as an obnoxious liberal. and pack_bryan is is foil. Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if they were the same person. 11/17/2011 1:11:27 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
edit: ^ha so its finally annoying the fuck out of you that you get owned so much in this thread that you're calling one of your own out. haha
Today the definition of 'RICH' just got redefined again from 250k to 170k awesome. yay im alllllmooosttt rich
obama! obama!! its only half a billion dollars. that would maybe put only a few hundred thousand people through a year of college for free. no big deal to see here!
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM. Reason : ,] 11/17/2011 1:19:23 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
If I were ill-informed, I would be a republican. 11/17/2011 1:40:31 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "openly admitting that it's nonviolent, yet invokes extremely violent memories of recent history. hmmm.. Gotta admit it has some creepy, USSR-esque feel." |
What extremely violent memory of recent history does it invoke?
Who were the aggressors during that violent memory of recent history?11/17/2011 2:49:58 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
^ haha yea those tanks were just out for a nice sunday drive and those horrible people got in their way. 11/17/2011 2:55:24 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
ok you can 1) be openly retarded. and 2) pretend that the big obvious hope here isnt for the 'govt' to bring their big guns out and try to 'control' these freaks
but at this point it's obvious that it's all the big hope that somebody can appear to 'suffer' for this protest.
too bad nobody gives a shit about it anymore.
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM. Reason : .] 11/17/2011 2:57:10 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "too bad nobody gives a shit about it anymore" |
says the guy that has posted ITT twice as much as anybody else11/17/2011 3:13:03 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Today the definition of 'RICH' just got redefined again from 250k to 170k" |
...where did you see this?11/17/2011 3:16:35 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A
EDUCATED
POPULATION" |
11/17/2011 3:17:47 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
REPUBLICAN BAD
DEMOCRAT GOOD
CONSERVATIVE BAD
LIBERAL GOOD 11/17/2011 3:19:17 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
HULK SMASH!!!! 11/17/2011 4:07:07 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
qntmfred you'll be happy today OWS won a big battle against the NYC police department
"Students chanted "CUNY should be free!" and "Student Power!" as they took to the streets along 16th and 5th Avenue, shutting down traffic and leaving police unable to respond. Police eventually erected barricades along 5th Avenue in an attempt to block the march"
OWS 157 Police 0
FUCK YEH KILL THE CAPITALISTS. DOWN WITH CAPITALISM AND END THE SYSTEM!
DEMOCRACY HAS FAILED. CAPITALISM HAS FAILED. GREED REIGNS SUPREME. THERE IS NO GOOD IN THE WORLD AMONGST THOSE WHO 'HAVE'. NOW BEGINS THE DAY WHEN ALL MUST BE FORCED TO OPEN THEIR HOMES AND WALLETS TO THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE. THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE MEANS MUST BE PROVIDED FOR BY THE BACKS AND LABOR OF THOSE WHO DO WITHOUT QUESTION. TODAY IS THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW FREE WORLD
THE RICH HAVE OPENLY FIRED THE POOR FROM THEIR JOBS OUT OF SPORT ALONE!!!
THEY SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED THE SYSTEM SO THEY WOULD MAKE A LARGE POOR CLASS SIMPLY BECAUSE ITS A GAME TOO THEM AND THEY ARE INHERENTLY BORN EVIL HUMAN BEINGS!!!
NOW THEY WILL HAVE THEIR ROADS CLOGGED. THEIR SUBWAYS STOPPED. THEIR BRIDGES JAMMED. THEIR HOMES AND SQUARES OCCUPIED. WE WILL NOT REST. WE WILL NOT SLEEP UNTIL ALL THE WORLD RECOGNIZES OUR GRIEF AND GIVES US THAT MONEY THAT WE DESERVE
LONG LIVE #OWS
Quote : | " Big Government has learned that Occupy Wall Street activists and supporters are circulating this blog post from the left-wing site Firedoglake, entitled: “What to Do When the Media Says a Protester Attacked a Cop.” The plan is simple: find someone else to blame for Occupy violence against police. The Firedoglake post was published on Saturday, October 22. By then, there had already been several incidents of violence and attacks on police at Occupy demonstrations throughout the country. Moreover, it had become clear that some Occupy activists were determined to initiate or provoke clashes with police, such as those witnessed on the streets of Oakland last night. Once posted on Firedoglake, the proposed public relations strategy for dealing with accusations of anti-police violence was then circulated via email to organizers of the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) demonstrations. One activist suggested: “Might it be useful to put it out to the media that OWS is expecting infiltration and agent provocateur violence, and OWS is concerned about how it will play out, since OWS is peaceful?” (See below – email addresses redacted.) " |
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 5:16 PM. Reason : ,]11/17/2011 4:57:32 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and all they do is say "fuck you" and try to talk louder" |
11/17/2011 5:15:35 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
dude i'm preaching exactly what you want to hear in that exact same fucking style ironic?????
hey qntmfred,
do you believe that corporations have built up a system ON PURPOSE so that they can lay off workers and cause a 10% unemployment?
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 5:19 PM. Reason : 9] 11/17/2011 5:17:55 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
It would appear as if pack_bryan is the one that's mad
Go ahead...pound that keyboard, lil' guy. Get it all out 11/17/2011 5:27:12 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
yep, so mad
going outside everyday with protestors screaming and instigating violence with cops
every day that's me 11/17/2011 5:56:07 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
going outside everyday with protestors screaming and instigating violence with cops
screaming at the top of your lungs furiously typing on your keyboard everyday...all day... where literally no one thinks you're worth listening to
11/17/2011 5:58:33 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
The number of smiley faces in a post is directly proportional to how mad you are 11/17/2011 6:39:59 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Land of the Flea, Home of the Slave?
To the tune of Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the U.S.A.":
I was born in America, Where I'm often told I'm free.
I voted for the piece of shit who told that lie to me.
And I'll gladly stand up next to you At the all-you-can-eat buffet.
I can't afford To move abroad...
Trapped in the U.S.A.
I can't afford To move abroad...
Trapped in the U.S.A." |
11/17/2011 6:42:29 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
ha. emce been saving that one up for a while?? ha. i call you mad. now you call me mad. some creative genius up in his head! you should market that to an employer bro!
just curious why are you so against people who disagree with your anarchist driven movement? if you notice. i'm all for the 'feelings' of OWS that corruption and mishandling of tax money is bad. it sucks that people are poor. i get that. protesting is great when it is peaceful and legal and occurs within those 2 specific parameters and doesn't disrespect the lives of others going about doing their matters to provide for their families.
1. but do you really have to go out and incite cop violence by constantly testing their boundaries? 2. do you really have to shut down businesses and traffic and try to block 'work'ers from doing their job that lets them live? 3. why are you so jealous of the rich? if they are breaking the law, why can't you find the laws they are breaking and prosecute them? 4. are you above the law yourselves in these regards?
it just really blows for you guys that you get so happy and blissful and laugh and party when finally a cop gets so tested and spit on and made fun of and pushed around that he finally decides to push some asshole out of his face. instantly 1000 youtube videos go up and everybody claims that "the man" is fighting this personal war against the poor and that these petty instances are PROOF of the conspiracy.
oh emce, make sure you don't answer any of those questions specifically with answers and put a witty comment reply only kiss kiss baby
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM. Reason : ,] 11/17/2011 6:59:26 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
ok, I'll give this a shot....
Quote : | "emce been saving that one up for a while?" |
nah
Quote : | "i call you mad. now you call me mad. some creative genius up in his head! you should market that to an employer bro!" |
I'm gainfully employed. Thanks for your concern. By the way... what job do you have that allows you to post on TWW all day?
Quote : | "just curious why are you so against people who disagree with your anarchist driven movement?" |
I'm not. I just think that you're a moron. Don't take it personally.
Quote : | "1. but do you really have to go out and incite cop violence by constantly testing their boundaries?" |
I haven't gone out and incited any cop violence. I went to work today, just like I did the day before... and the day before... building shit that saves yours and everyone else's lives every single time they fly.
Quote : | "2. do you really have to shut down businesses and traffic and try to block 'work'ers from doing their job that lets them live? " |
I didn't shut anything down.
Quote : | "3. why are you so jealous of the rich? if they are breaking the law, why can't you find the laws they are breaking and prosecute them?" |
Not jealous of the filthy rich. Don't think I ever claimed that I was. I can't prosecute anyone, because I am not an attorney.
Quote : | "4. are you above the law yourselves in these regards?" |
Absolutely.
Did I answer all your questions? Very good then... on with your baseless, uninformed, and sweeping generalizations.
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 7:13 PM. Reason : a]11/17/2011 7:12:34 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
So Time had an article a few weeks ago profiling about 20 ppl who made up a portion of OWS. One of them, out of twenty, had a job (a special ed teacher). The rest were either artists, writers, students, or unemployed.
No engineers, doctors, construction workers, police, fire fighters, business owners (i.e. ppl who contribute to society).
Those who don't work, OCCUPY. 11/17/2011 7:26:58 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^^i guess you thought i was talking about you mr emce going out to the protest yourself. nah bro. but its ok. i can work with it.
i respect you for trying to give me an answer.
unfortunately, i was talking about the entire movement though. but its cool if dont want to answer it in that regard. you can answer in the way that makes you individually innocent, sure, no problem. ironically isn't that the same greedy individual behavior they are protesting against? individual greed against representing the group equally amongst all??
idk man. but you can take that however you want. i still think you are a good guy. even if you do think i'm just a moron. its all good bro
^hey man, settledown, you need to realize that society and income are built off of things like artists and professional students. those should be high paying jobs and always in demand despite economic turmoil right? hmm i'll research it.
[Edited on November 17, 2011 at 7:30 PM. Reason : ,] 11/17/2011 7:29:16 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
you directed all of those questions to me.
^ see that word? "YOU"? It has a meaning, bro 11/17/2011 7:31:00 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
yeh sure man. i agree. i mistyped all those. i should have said "you guys" as in the OWS movement in general. i'm just a lazy dumb guy emce. i apologize. i wouldnt want you to be too disturbed and have to answer all those questions in that light. 11/17/2011 7:44:00 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
Bunch of Damn lazy hippies would wont get up off their ass and work. 11/17/2011 8:25:40 PM |