ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
got back in some more EDC ~ 112
can't help myself 8/5/2009 10:49:53 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
No market gaming here folks
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/goldmans-42-100mm-trading-days-q2-absolute-unprecedented-record-just-two-days-trading-losses 8/5/2009 11:24:32 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
AIG and CIT up 40%, simply stunning.
I'm about 10 minutes away from just booking all these losses and forgetting about the stock market for awhile. The small time guy just can't beat the Fed. This was the story in April and May, and after a small break in June to make sure the "technicals" still made sense, they are back at it again trying to manufacture a break of the overhead resistance and the volume is so low in the market they are able to do it. 8/5/2009 12:28:41 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Always a sign of a functioning economy when a company was near death and got untold billions from the government (which they promptly handed over to banks all over the world) is up 70% in one day. 8/5/2009 1:48:59 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I bought shares of the wrong bank that starts with C I T.
but, I guess i'm up on C about 10%.
would prefer 70% 8/5/2009 1:57:14 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
How well fucking timed. Godman Sachs just pumped up their GDP forecast by 200% from 1 to 3% for the second half.
Thats fan fucking tastic.
Is that similar to how you were calling for 200 oil right before the market shit the bed? Or how you were loading up on CDSs as you were happily selling CDOs with fresh AAA ratings to trusting investors? Holy fuck.
If it seems like I just went non linear
I FUCKING DID 8/5/2009 2:52:47 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
i hope CSCO earnings dont dent TYH too much 8/5/2009 4:50:13 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
~70% of my stocks are now above their strike prices.
This might actually turn out really well for me. 8/5/2009 4:58:31 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Are you guys just switching your brains off or am I following people that are entirely too bearish for their (and my) own good? I was doing well through the middle of the run into June before the correction (was out of the market during the correction), did well the first couple of days on the run up and then started looking for the turn and more than clobbered my gains from the previous periods. 8/5/2009 9:20:34 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
And the REIT pump job continues unabated for a third day. This...this is something spectacular. 8/6/2009 9:36:37 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, and AIG Up 110% in two days, another 30% today. I'm done with this market. Booking the huge losses and getting the fuck out of it until some semblance of reality returns. 8/6/2009 9:45:18 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Labaton-Sucharow-LLP-Files-pz-3481984511.html?x=0&.v=1 8/6/2009 10:30:20 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Same story for the past 5 days. Market opens with a drop until about 10-10:15, then it moves up to breakeven. This is how you know some serious manipulation is in the works. Pump the futures, regardless of the data, sell into the opening mania as more and more retail investors jump in. Re-buy when it bottoms an hour later. 8/6/2009 11:17:57 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
well if you're so aware of what's going on, why don't you take advantage of it and make some money 8/6/2009 11:40:21 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Because I just noticed it today after it had already started it's melt up? I'm not playing the market really today anyway as I'm studying for an exam. 8/6/2009 11:49:33 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0860e006-81f4-11de-9c5e-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss&nclick_check=1
Quote : | "Goldman has record trading days By Greg Farrell and Francesco Guerrera in New York Published: August 5 2009 20:30 | Last updated: August 5 2009 20:30
Goldman Sachs traders made more than $100m in revenues on each of a record 46 days during the second quarter, while losing money on just two days, the bank said on Wednesday, in a filing that underscored the strength of its trading operations.
Goldman also said lawmakers, regulators and shareholders had asked about its bonus awards, a subject that has generated fevered interest this year as the bank has reported strong profits. It “received inquiries from various governmental agencies and self-regulatory organisations regarding the firm’s compensation processes” and was co-operating with the requests." |
8/6/2009 1:03:13 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Bout 25hrs too late. 8/6/2009 1:26:20 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
heh, so it is. nobody clicks links that have no quotes or at least commentary. :-) 8/6/2009 1:40:31 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE5755BC20090806
Quote : | "The Nasdaq Stock Market and BATS Exchange said in separate statements on Thursday they will "voluntarily" stop offering so-called flash orders, a controversial service that gives certain firms an advance look at market-bound trading orders." |
8/6/2009 3:36:34 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
You guys thought I was joking when I said rumors were floating that the Fed was active in the stock market
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/feds-ust-pomo-pyramid-scheme-exposed 8/6/2009 10:14:41 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
bought some CHDX & DISH 8/10/2009 10:50:30 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
like i said
Quote : | "well if you're so aware of what's going on, why don't you take advantage of it and make some money" |
Wall Street Super-Computers Are Stealing Your Money http://www.growthstockwire.com/archive/2009/jul/2009_jul_30.asp
Adapt or Die http://www.growthstockwire.com/archive/2009/aug/2009_aug_06.asp
Quote : | "Regulators are now looking into ways to reduce the effects of HFT. But they're so far behind the curve, any new laws they come up with will be antiquated before they're passed. No one should rely on the folks in Washington to act on their behalf. Instead, if you know you're playing in a rigged game, your job is to bet on the side of the riggers" |
[Edited on August 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM. Reason : win]8/11/2009 11:27:49 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
It's safe to say nearly anything you find related to the market I've long since devoured. I've been reading about HFT, dark pools, Sigma X, and PT for over a month now. As a matter of fact I played for late day surge yesterday at nearly the 2:30 bottom and made nearly 70% on some DIA calls.
Generally, if the volume is low enough then there is a high probability it will happen. Today is another good example with volume running below average to this point in the session. It makes it really easy for the computers to start jamming it up. If you're really interested, stick a VWAP plot on SPY or DIA and any time this afternoon it looks like they are going to touch the VWAP point, the probability is insanely high we'll get a good pop. 8/11/2009 12:36:20 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
AIG is on one HELL of a rollercoaster. Glad I sold most of mine @27.80 on thursday. 8/11/2009 1:22:10 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
I tried to short some of it yesterday but its on the HTB list. 8/11/2009 1:30:38 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
any advice from the more savvy folk on here for what to invest in or try to flip w/$2K? 8/11/2009 1:45:18 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
You mean, gambling?
You can't do a lot with 2k as commission starts eating pretty quickly. I'd wait a few days at least to see if the market is going to correct or if it is going to power higher. Tomorrow the Fed has the results of their 2 day meeting and it should be a market mover either way. If they come out and say the economy is improving and they are stopping quantitative easing, we could see more funds that haven't gotten on board jump on the train and power things up another 5-10%. If they come out and don't say they are ending QE and are keeping rates at 0 it could be a signal to the market that we've come a little too far too fast and we get a bit of a correction.
Just keep in mind it bumped up into resistance 4 days last week (and from the previous Friday) before using a manipulated NFP number to crack through the resistance (roughly 1000 on the S&P, 2000 on the NAS, 575 on the R 2000)...and here we are 2 days later already back under those levels. That isn't really bullish. It could be a minor pause/head fake, but you'd need a real catalyst for that to happen. 8/11/2009 2:16:44 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
btw, here is someone with many more years experience than me who has arrived at more or less the same conclusion I just did
http://slopeofhope.com/2009/08/imho-fomc-stfu.html 8/11/2009 9:09:23 PM |
SnakeBite All American 3156 Posts user info edit post |
bullshit, i turned 1500 into 4500 in the last two weeks, it can be done with the correct techniques
and its not gambling when you know what will happen and when!
[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 1:26 AM. Reason : pwnt] 8/12/2009 1:25:10 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Which stocks did your dart land on? 8/12/2009 9:32:57 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when you know what will happen and when" |
rrrrrrrright8/12/2009 9:51:04 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^
i like the comparison of charts in that link.
think of it all this as waves vs. intraday tides vs. seasonal tides vs. sea change.
the day to day or weekly moves are like waves or intraday tides;
quarterly/semiannual/annual trends (i.e. movement during earnigns season, "sell in May and walk away", etc) are like seasonal tides;
sea changes are macroeconomic shifts. i.e. are we entering a period of stagflation? is the relative value of developed market currencies to emerging ones affecting equity and asset betas, such that if affects the availability of capital to the free markets? how are the "re-emerging" markets of India and China impacting the way the world prices risk and reward?
in a manner of speaking, most of us are on surfboards or wave-runners. each of us needs to be able to surf the waves without being wiped out or carried out to sea by an undertow. also, be wary of blackswans/anomalies or periodical hurricanes, tsunamis, and el ninos that can interfere with the seasons ands tides, and leave a lot of destruction and casualties in their path. 8/12/2009 11:54:23 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
guys,
i've always found profitable short term plays, recently ones such as FUQI & CISG, by spotting them with gains via unusually high volume on the following:
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/unusualvolume.aspx
its a good resource for leads. remember to do your research and have an exit strategy. 8/13/2009 11:26:00 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
damn, look at the volume on C today, over a billion shares traded.
8/14/2009 3:59:13 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
That's not unusual at all if you look at it's trade history over the past 3 weeks. 8/14/2009 4:17:05 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Figures, I bought Sept SDS calls for 2.75 last Thursday near the close with the expectation the market was going to turn in the next 1-3 weeks.
I was already up 15% on them with the Friday morning plunge, missed my sell fill, and manage to get out of them a bit later for a mere 8%.
Of course, the big selloff that everyone has been waiting on for weeks finally hits today and is going to push those calls up another 50% from where I sold them. 8/17/2009 9:26:07 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
bought some EDC @ 95 and change
can't help myself 8/17/2009 11:37:08 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on August 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM. Reason : .] 8/17/2009 11:52:41 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
also bought some FAS, TNA, & TYH
just felt like there was too much fear in a short amount of time (they even sold off gold), and i've had some cash on the side for a while. will likely get some more of these direxion etfs tomorrow, and will know later in the week if the short term trades worked out. trailing stops will be key.. 8/17/2009 5:08:32 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
The lack of the end of day stick save makes me think we'll see another 1-1.5% follow through tomorrow. 8/17/2009 7:41:28 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^ Same here. 8/17/2009 8:44:55 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Though I read somewhere recently about a theory to the end of the day rallies. That is, the volume is so light and the market tends to move up and down enough during the day that shorts are loading up at various points during the day and towards the end the program trading starts buying and figures out when the shorts are forced into covering and then it's just a cascade effect.
The theory today was the morning gap down was so fierce that there were no shortable points, thus nothing to cover at EOD to fuel a pop into the close. 8/17/2009 9:27:12 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
just put in tight trailing stops on those 3x ETFs bought yesterday 8/18/2009 11:30:28 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
After buying some SIRI at 0.36 in May I sold it today at 0.575 for a return of around 56%. 8/18/2009 3:34:29 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
I don't play a lot of individual stocks particularly penny stocks but I have to admit I was intrigued hearing about that company who is providing airlines with clean fuel for their groundtesting.
It was up 88% yesterday and I know nothing about their balance sheet, valuation, or business model so this is far from a recommendation but I do feel that smallcaps with super upside are going to be prime targets to get bought by the large companies who are sitting on huge cash positions. Think about it, the smallcaps will have tough time securing favorable financing in this credit environment so they should be more likely to sell out at a good offer. Some of the "bad guys" of the oil industry could also use a company like this to help their public perception and if ultimately its not viable or subsidized enough just put it to bed quietly.
Someone help me out with the name/symbol i gotta get on the road. 8/19/2009 6:59:48 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
SDS calls I bought into the close will be up about 18% on the open. I'll sell half and wait for a pullback for a bit of a reload and sell the full lot by 10:30 which is about where we'll bottom and spend the rest of the day hanging out. 8/19/2009 9:13:12 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
I just figured out who has been driving the stock market for months CHINA
just heard on CNBC that china had used a lot of money to speculate in the market, that explains it all to me, china owns us now
this would also make sense since they continue to buy our debt which insures their stocks continue to go up.
[Edited on August 19, 2009 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .] 8/19/2009 3:05:13 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
This...this fucking market...I buy DIA puts for .77 and get trailing stopped in minutes. Now I see the market decided it was a bit too retardo this morning and is pissing off all that spike it had and those puts are going for .90.
Good job guys! 8/19/2009 3:12:05 PM |
ncsuREMY9 All American 1805 Posts user info edit post |
people, you have got to be buying the dips right now. yes, even after the 5 month runup. the short side is too crowded, that is why we keep moving higher. if everyone is short and it doesn't roll over, there is no place to go but up. i exited SDS on July 10 and started accumulating SSO on the 15th at about 26. bought another nice chunk two days ago. DO NOT FIGHT A CLEAR BULL TREND - THE MARKET WANTS TO MOVE UP. you've got to play it from the long side for now. shorting a bull market is a quick way to lose your money. if you are really scared of a huge correction just go to cash. but until we make a significant break downward on high volume it ain't gonna happen. 8/19/2009 8:19:07 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I said just that today in the chat on the stock site I am a member of
Quote : | "August 19th, 2009 at 4:57 pm | Permalink
Guys, I think it’s time to switch off the incessant bear hope because it is obvious that fundamentals aren’t at play and aren’t going to be for awhile. Either A) Money is coming in from somewhere at all pullbacks, or B) There is no fear to panic sell into drops. If 180pts in a day when everyone was thinking a pullback was inevitable and long overdue wasn’t enough to get a proper correction started, what is? Especially when you consider days like today when the market rocketed higher on what appears to be bullish news for energy. " |
I think fund managers are getting performance anxiety because they sat out so much of the rally and now with steady better than expected data and reasonable earnings, they are jumping in so that they don't underperform their peers. This is aided by GS making 1060 S&P predictions as if some hidden in the public to start the buying. It'll probably take them into mid October to fully get into their positions and the Fed will announce it's raising rates and whack them all.
Fortunately, I've been quick and nimble with moves and have been sitting in cash for a couple of weeks.8/19/2009 9:17:38 PM |