jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ok i can't resist. how would any of the coaches know to enforce anything? i highly doubt the players and tutor are gonna go running to an authority figure about breaking the honor code" |
Ever since this whole thing broke, I've been thinking the same thing..."how do you prevent this??"
Honestly, you can't really prevent it...but you can try your best to. And I think just "informing" them is the least you can do. You can put the fear of god in them. I bet Butch Davis' and TOBs' approaches to these things are markedly different. Not just that one is the coach of UNC and one is the coach at State...but that one is military and one isn't...and TOB just comes off as being a no-nonsense kind of guy. Just from perception, you get the feeling that UNC players are running amok kind of like the State players did when Amato was here.
When was the last time there were stories or topics made about Russel Wilson tweets or facebook posts?? (it's actually an honest question, because I've never seen them and was wondering if there has been anything said about them).
They might be all over the place and the reason no one says anything about them is because there is no controversy. But I also bet that TOB doesn't put up with that shit either. Some coaches obviously deal with this stuff better than others. Butch Davis seems to have done a shitty job of it.
I think if I were the coach, there would be several speeches that go include the following:
"I will know EVERTYHING you tweet and put up on facebook...and so will the NCAA...so don't be stupid, use common sense. Cheating will not be tolerated...we will find out. I have "people" in all of your classes that report to me whether or not your are attending, whether or not you are doing your homework, and how you are performing in your classes. If someone does your homework or writes one of your papers, I WILL KNOW. If you are having trouble with a class, come to me, or go to the tutors. They can help you...but you will do ALL of your work. You will not ruin this team and this university by taking short-cuts. I will find out and you will not be on this team."
I know there are going to be some players that are still going to do whatever they want...but I think you can put the fear of God in most of them. And every coach might give speeches that have the same info as I listed above...but some might not...and some might put a little more authority behind it than others.
Either way...there is no way you can avoid blaming Butch Davis for some of this. He's obviously not 100% at fault...but he's definitely fucked up at some point during this whole process and he shoulder a decent amount of the blame.8/31/2010 2:38:36 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Www.funnyordie.com/videos/0182add5d2/unc-summer-2010
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 2:45 PM. Reason : gg] 8/31/2010 2:40:31 PM |
daddywill88 All American 710 Posts user info edit post |
The professors (or the TAs that did the grading) should be held accountable too. From attendance, class participation, and in-class assignments you can tell if a student submitted their work or someone else's. I'm assuming the professors had a don't ask don't tell policy.
And don't say, "Well there's 300 people in a class, a professor can't track them all." These guys are juniors and seniors. Maybe its different at UNC, but I have maybe had one large class that was more than 20 or so people since sophomore year.
^ for those of you who don't like to copy/paste http://Www.funnyordie.com/videos/0182add5d2/unc-summer-2010 This actually made me laugh a little. Good work.
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 2:44 PM. Reason : linky] 8/31/2010 2:41:50 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Should be incredibly easy to tell if a football player did his own work or not. If you've ever seen the work of a revenue sport "student-athlete" you know just how incredibly painful those papers are to read. Can't imagine a professor being fooled for one second. 8/31/2010 2:48:39 PM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
i don't get the end of the video, is russell in bed with a man or did russell's head get severed for some reason
would have made more sense with LT's severed head
or rameses
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM. Reason : -] 8/31/2010 2:49:09 PM |
Duncan All American 1442 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think these student-athletes are some Illuminati masters of deception. It's a group of high-profile people, you'd think between the teachers, TAs, tutors, fellow students, and honest athletes, some kind of word would get out about what was going on to at least part of the coaching staff.
Even if they failed to instill a Fear Of God in the athletes, there will probably be some warning signs and the coaching staff can decide to sweep it under the rug or start handing out punishments. 8/31/2010 2:52:16 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
I hate posting off of this damn cell phone.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0182add5d2/unc-summer-2010
The man sleeping is a unc fan. See the unc piggy bank right when he wqkes up. 8/31/2010 3:01:18 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
GOD!!! Don't you see that link is already posted TWICE on this page!
RAWR RAWR RAWR RAWR RAWR RAWR RAWR RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE 8/31/2010 3:18:36 PM |
badboyben All American 7631 Posts user info edit post |
UNC Goes Harsh with Twitter Policy http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/14770/unc-goes-harsh-with-twitter-policy -- Roy started this 8/31/2010 3:21:49 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Robert Quinn denies being a part of tutorgate: http://www.dailytarheel.com/index.php/blog/press_box/2010/08/quinn_denies_tutor_help 8/31/2010 3:27:28 PM |
daddywill88 All American 710 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Forty names, games, teams and minutiae making news in college football (season tickets sold separately at North Carolina (1), where for a limited time you can get $10 off for every starter under investigation)" |
Quote : | "Ten biggest dolts
For all the interesting people in the game, there are a few who deserve a Dash diss for football-related stupidity
Marvin Austin (16), North Carolina defensive tackle. Provided a Twitter road map for NCAA investigators linking him to enjoying an allegedly agent-funded high life on South Beach. Not only that, but reports indicate Austin was something of a pied piper for other players, leading them into agent-infested waters. And then his name was linked last week to potential academic fraud as well. Not a great offseason, young man." |
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM. Reason : .]8/31/2010 3:27:33 PM |
lion4russell All American 1588 Posts user info edit post |
^^^what does it matter? im sure they had somebody writting their twitter updates for them too
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ^^] 8/31/2010 3:27:53 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
I have another on the way 8/31/2010 3:27:59 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
quit with the fucking videos BEU, they suck. 8/31/2010 3:28:30 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
They are funny. You suck. This next one is better for people like you. 8/31/2010 3:33:29 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
sorry dude, they really aren't funny.
you're trying too hard. 8/31/2010 3:36:31 PM |
ZincMachWon All American 888 Posts user info edit post |
This one is funny the first time around, but the Joker video wasn't funny at all. 8/31/2010 3:36:57 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Oic pics are allowed but videos are not. 8/31/2010 3:41:01 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
they're trying really hard to not talk about this on 99.9
US Soccer? really? 8/31/2010 3:41:15 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
first video was meh. second video brought the lulz. 8/31/2010 3:42:53 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
The ones i have posted are the 2nd and 3rd videos i have made.......ever. Relax. I am learning. 8/31/2010 3:50:07 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they're trying really hard to not talk about this on 99.9 " |
It's a three hour show every day
No new developments today, what are they supposed to talk about? BEU's shitty videos?8/31/2010 3:50:36 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Awesome videos......fyi 8/31/2010 3:53:12 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Panthers, UNC Scandal, State Depth Chart, Duke, Golf in Charlotte, Baseball Pennant Chases
anything else thats actually in season, or locally relevant. 8/31/2010 3:59:24 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
They spent less than 10 minutes discussing a story that came down in the last 24 hours
MEDIA COVER UP AFOOT
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 4:01 PM. Reason : and US Soccer is always in season, you dolt]
and by "this" did you mean "Panthers, UNC Scandal, State Depth Chart, Duke, Golf in Charlotte, Baseball Pennant Chases" or just "UNC Scandal"? You want them to start the show with UNC news (there is none) and spend three hours talking about it.] 8/31/2010 4:00:34 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
lol no need to get defensive, was just giving some examples
I guess they should be talking about the latest us track and field news too. Yeah they do it all the time too but people only care every 4 years. 8/31/2010 4:04:30 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
There is no UNC news
Stop being a whiny dick 8/31/2010 4:05:27 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
BEU that was a pretty good, i lol'd 8/31/2010 4:12:21 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
wow didn't realize sports talk radio had to be nothing but breaking news 8/31/2010 4:13:28 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
WHY ARE THEY TALKING TO NATE IRVING
TELL ME ABOUT UNC
THIS IS BULLSHIT 8/31/2010 4:15:31 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Would you like to talk about these anger issues Ernie? 8/31/2010 4:16:34 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously though
What do you want them to discuss? No one knows anything.
Greg Barnes was on with David Glenn. He doesn't know shit. You want them to talk to Austin or Davis or Baddour?
They can't do anything but speculate at this point. And unlike retards like you and the guys at SFN, they realize there's nothing constructive about that.
You think they haven't spent time talking to UNC media types about how they'll prepare for UNC if half their team is ineligible? They have. Do you really think they're just ignoring the story? There's nothing to discuss. Look, we're not even discussing anything in this thread. It's just gifs and retarded videos. There is no news, there is no discussion right now. 8/31/2010 4:20:32 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
I have a total of 2 more in my head. One is half done. The other has an outline. This next one everyone will find funny.
Tothe dissapointment of ernie..... 8/31/2010 4:20:57 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
LIONHEART
QUICK
UNC DISCUSSION COMING UP AFTER THE BREAK 8/31/2010 4:22:02 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Awesome videos.......dont insult my work. I am becoming an arteest. Spelled wrong on purpose 8/31/2010 4:23:42 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
You're such a tool. 8/31/2010 4:26:09 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
I find it hilarious you're getting so worked up about this. 8/31/2010 4:27:04 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Awesome tool.....fyi 8/31/2010 4:27:15 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
BEU is one step ahead of JT3Bucky
But its closer than the experts think 8/31/2010 4:27:44 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Likewise, I find it hilarious that instead of presenting your side of the argument, you'd like to point out how "worked up" I am. 8/31/2010 4:28:29 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
I just thought it was odd they spent a segment on US Soccer, a mid to low tier sport in the US with little local following while football and baseball are are gearing up and running strong among all the local interests.
You took offense for some reason. Can't we just be friends ? 8/31/2010 4:32:22 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Dude
You were obviously pissy about them not leading off with UNC
That's why you posted in the fucking UNC thread
10 minutes into the show and you're griping about a discussion that does not exist
I will not be your friend because you make up media conspiracies
Get fucked 8/31/2010 4:35:30 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
If possible, please explain reference. I am on here a lot, but nit that much. 8/31/2010 4:36:46 PM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
unc alum friend (who is way more reasonable than the typical IC asshat) says the initial tutorgate numbers reflected everyone who worked with the nanny and not necessarily everyone was involved in cheating
i have no reason to doubt him but he's not exactly one of the higher-ups over there
[Edited on August 31, 2010 at 4:49 PM. Reason : .] 8/31/2010 4:47:27 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
she's not a fucking nanny, holy shit 8/31/2010 4:55:23 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
that has yet to be proven, Sting. She could have been hired by Davis as a nanny for the players, but we just don't have all the info yet 8/31/2010 5:09:28 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
she's a nanny, you can't deny it 8/31/2010 5:26:00 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
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KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
NANNY NANNY BOO BOO 8/31/2010 5:57:31 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Ernie, you come across like a complete tool on this page. Calm the fuck down. No one wants Lionheart to come up with his side of the argument because it's stupid to argue over. All it would serve is to fill the next two pages with two sides to a dumb argument. 8/31/2010 6:19:23 PM |