12/9/2012 3:41:08 PM

lol..."they won the coin toss. this is a different team!!"

12/9/2012 3:42:19 PM

someone STILL explain to me what are they doing with their running backs?


that is ALWAYS there

[Edited on December 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM. Reason : dd]

12/9/2012 3:46:06 PM

i feel like the announcers are putting way too much emphasis on the coin toss lol.

12/9/2012 3:51:59 PM

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"@billvoth Cam Newton has accounted for 11 TDs and 0 turnovers in his last 4 games, 15 TDs and 2 turnovers in his last 6. #Panthers"

Wow.

12/9/2012 4:18:58 PM

I just posted that stat in Chit Chat a few minutes ago.

12/9/2012 4:21:39 PM

If Ron Rivera was our DC everyone would love him. Shame he's a bit out of his depth at HC.

Some team is going to love him at DC next year, hopefully it's not a team we play often.

12/9/2012 10:41:26 PM

Just got back from the game.

What happened?

12/9/2012 11:23:59 PM

If you're referring to my post nothing happened, I'm just operating under the assumption that RR will be gone at the end of the year, which seems likely.

12/9/2012 11:32:05 PM

Being that Big Cat is a former player and Rivera is a former player (even though I've heard it was a Hurney decision and not one of Richardson's top choices), I think he might give Rivera one more year...aka a full year to coach without Hurney making personnel decisions

Of course everything I hear is that if they bring in a new full-time GM before the season is over, Rivera is gone and the GM will bring in his own guy...if a new GM gets appointed in the off-season, Rivera will most likely get one more year to prove himself

also I love this:

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"Running off the field, Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy shouted the same four-letter goodbye to Atlanta players that Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan used Sept.?30. Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12/09/3716507/panthers-make-most-of-2nd-shot.html#storylink=cpy"

12/9/2012 11:49:45 PM

Richardson is cheap and rivera has two more years on his contract, I predict he's back next year.

I don't like rivera, but its a little unfair to blame him for the horrible roster hurney assembled. It's going to take a few years to undo the salary cap damage. Personally I say release all the cap killers and bite it next year. We can't afford to waste all five of the cheap Cam years. He's going to be making $20M soon and then our whole advantage is neutralized.

12/10/2012 12:03:29 AM

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"Inside the locker room nearly an hour after the game, Panthers quarterback Cam Newton still was singing “Sweet Caroline,” the Neil Diamond song that plays at Bank of America Stadium after what have become rare home wins "

one of the many reasons why i will always hate the UNCarolina panthers

12/10/2012 12:05:25 AM

Don't you mean the Carolina PantheRedsox

Because that song is much more famously related to them than UNC.

12/10/2012 12:11:23 AM

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"Richardson is cheap"

where does this completely false stereotype even come from and why do so many people buy into it?

this is the 18th season of the franchise, Richardson has been cheap exactly one year, in preparation for the lockout to be able to get Cam Newton for 1/3 the price of Sam Bradford

he overpays the shit out of old/washed up veterans instead of spending that money elsewhere like in free agency, he's by no means "cheap"

if you want to say he allocates his salary money unwisely, fine, but how is someone who overpays the shit out of players for reasons of loyalty "cheap"

aside from the clausen season, whens the last time we had a huge surplus of cap room? never

12/10/2012 12:11:24 AM

^^ i associate that song to UNC. Couple that with the team location name

[Edited on December 10, 2012 at 12:19 AM. Reason : U]

12/10/2012 12:14:21 AM

I hate the Gamecocks because they remind me of the Tar Heels...

12/10/2012 12:14:50 AM

^^^ Bravo. Hate it when a Panther fan comes up with 'Richardson is cheap'. Shows what a shitty fanbase we have when a good hunk of them think our owner is a cheapskate

12/10/2012 12:21:50 AM

We've always hired relatively cheap coaching staffs so i dont know what you are talking about. He was also one of the first one's to sell PSL's and he has campaigned for taxpayer money for stadium upgrades.

He was also one of the most vocal owners in trying to steal the player's money during the strike, remember? He also completely tanked a season so that he could make huge profits.

He's certainly on the cheap end of the spectrum when it comes to NFL owners.

12/10/2012 12:25:42 AM

with the amount of money that they gave delhomme, he's earned the right never to be called that......now foolish on the other hand....

12/10/2012 12:27:47 AM

PSLs, ok, but i'd say that makes him savvy more than cheap

and yes, 17 years into the 17.5 year old franchise, he began asking for tax money for stadium upgrades...so in that respect, he's been cheap since mid-2012

he was one of the most vocal of the owners during the lockout, but the other 31 were on his side...that hardly makes him any cheaper than any other owner...and i already conceded he was cheap exactly one year, for the purposes of getting Cam for a 21M rookie contract instead of a 60M contract for an overhyped rookie like Sam Bradford

he's certainly not in the cheap spectrum of owners

i'd expect someone like yourself who followed statistics and finances and general numbers so closely to realize this

12/10/2012 12:29:49 AM

not to mention he is one of the more well respected owners among his peers. I'd much rather have him as my owner than what Detroit, Cincinnati, Dallas, Oakland, Arizona, Miami, etc etc have to deal with

12/10/2012 12:37:07 AM

Just wanted to note that Luke Kuechly had 16 tackles in the game. He now leads the NFL with 130 tackles on the year. Beast.

12/10/2012 8:32:39 AM

Yeah since moving to the inside he's been a tackling machine.


Like I said all along it really sucks to have to burn a top ten pick on an inside lb, but he's good enough to justify it and LB was definitely a position of need for us.

12/10/2012 8:41:06 AM

How do Panther's feel about Cam's 1st down celebration? If I was an opposing defender, I would lay his ass out.

12/10/2012 8:41:27 AM

If you're a big enough pussy to get butthurt over another football player celebrating a touchdown, you probably don't need to be in the league anyway.

He can't celebrate if you do your job and stop him.

12/10/2012 8:53:27 AM

I'm sure if he knew he'd get 15 free yards for doing it, he would do it after every play first down or not.

Don't like the dance? don't let him get a first down.

12/10/2012 8:54:04 AM

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"If you're a big enough pussy to get butthurt over another football player celebrating a touchdown, you probably don't need to be in the league anyway. He can't celebrate if you do your job and stop him. "

What if you're stopping him all game, you're up 20 points, and his primadonna-ass finally gets a first down and does it?

12/10/2012 8:55:42 AM

Quote :

"Don't like the dance? don't let him get a first down."

12/10/2012 8:58:24 AM

Well based on that pro bowl story last week he's not real popular around the league.

I don't understand why he gets so much attention for his personality. Can't we just evaluate him as a football player?

12/10/2012 9:09:01 AM

If they evaluated him as a football player all those sportswriters who predicted him to struggle would look foolish and wouldn't be able to say "I told you so"

12/10/2012 9:23:43 AM

What I want to know is why do sportswriters have it in for him and not RGIII they are similar players and one could argue had Cam not had the success he had RGIII would not have been a top 2 pick.

12/10/2012 9:29:58 AM

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"What if you're stopping him all game, you're up 20 points, and his primadonna-ass finally gets a first down and does it?"

What? Point for a first down? EVERY NFL PLAYER DOES IT.

Stop crying about a professional athlete celebrating a play. That's most childish shit I've ever heard.

12/10/2012 10:16:38 AM

Manti Te'O was 2nd in Heisman voting and had 103 tackles this year

Kuechly had 191 last year

12/10/2012 10:32:40 AM

Guess I got my answer...

Some players act like they've been there...some players make a production out of everything. Fans give a pass when its their team and hate it when players of the other 31 teams do similar things.

(first downs are different than touchdowns)

[Edited on December 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM. Reason : .]

12/10/2012 10:38:04 AM

it's not like Cam Newton is Freddie Mitchell and can't back it up. I would celebrate a first down too if i turned a sack loss of 7 yards into a 25+ yard scramble for a first down. on third down nonetheless.

12/10/2012 11:01:37 AM

Watch Steve Smith's blocks...

12/10/2012 11:54:30 AM

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"and hate it when players of the other 31 teams do similar things"

Show me where anyone on this board has spent one second complaining about any player's celebrations outside of you in this thread.

12/10/2012 12:08:30 PM

TO isn't in the league anymore. Cam Newton is the only person in the league who does this after every sing first down.

I'm apathetic towards the Panthers. In fact...I normally cheer for them unless they are playing against Rivers/Wilson/some-team-that-has-a-lot-of-my-fantasy-players. I just find his 1st down "celebrations" annoying as fuck and am not surprised that homer fans "see no problem with it."

12/10/2012 12:12:35 PM

I like all forms of celebrations. TO is one of my all time favorite players, so I'm the wrong person to weigh in.

I'm just glad to see Killa Cam making adjustments and not sucking these last several games.

Now just don't mess up our draft pick too badly, please.

12/10/2012 12:33:28 PM

the superman thing is just incredibly, incredibly lame to me

12/10/2012 12:51:21 PM

Very curious what we do with Beason

12/10/2012 12:58:47 PM

12/10/2012 1:50:14 PM

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" What I want to know is why do sportswriters have it in for him and not RGIII they are similar players and one could argue had Cam not had the success he had RGIII would not have been a top 2 pick. "

they are not similar QB's

they have similar skin color

12/10/2012 1:57:21 PM

Newton is John Elway type, Griffin is Steve Young type. But both get a good deal of production from running

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" Cam Newton is the only person in the league who does this after every sing first down. "

Uh, Steve Smith does it after every first down also.

12/10/2012 4:59:54 PM

I do the "Discount double check" every time I take a good massive dump.

12/10/2012 5:27:10 PM

Slave Famous does Jared Allen's calf roping sack celebration everytime he shoots ropes

12/10/2012 5:37:31 PM

^^^^ No, nothing alike at all:

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"Griffin already is just the fourth player in league history to pass for at least 2,500 yards and rush for at least 700 yards in a single season, joining Cam Newton (2011), Michael Vick (2002) and Randall Cunningham (1990). "

12/10/2012 6:38:27 PM

Foster just did his celebration down 3 touchdowns in a blowout.

jbrick83 must be fuming right now

12/10/2012 10:47:04 PM

oh heavens no, Tom Brady totally just gave the first down signal after running for a first down

12/10/2012 10:59:32 PM

Did you see Brady's celebration after a rushing first down? What an immature showboat.

12/10/2012 10:59:48 PM