Quote :

"^stars matter much more in college basketball. Its easier for kids to get noticed in college basketball because of the MILLIONS and MILLIONS of AAU tournaments and invitationals, etc, etc, etc. "

Very true. Plus it's a lot easier for one or two recruits to change around an entire program in basketball compared to football. That's why I don't really give a shit who TOB pulls in anymore ... sure getting a few of the high-star guys would be nice, but I don't find myself obsessing over it like I did when Amato was here. Basketball is a different story though.

12/16/2008 11:45:46 AM

Updates
Julian Burnett to Georgia Tech
Edwin Herbert to Florida
Johnathan Meeks to Clemson
A.J. Ferguson Commits!

2009 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

QB
*** Everett Proctor (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-2/200

RB
*** James Washington (Boone HS) Orlando, FL 6-0/180/4.40
*** Morgan Alexander (Cartersville HS) Cartersville, GA 5-10.5/160/4.47
*** Greg Pratt (Naples HS) Naples, FL 5-9/165/4.40
*** Rolandan Finch (St. Xavier HS) Louisville, KY 5-10/200/4.50
*** Travis Small (Cheraw HS) Cheraw, SC 5-10.5/184/4.50
** William Pratcher (Cedar Grove HS) Ellenwood, GA 5-10/180

FB
No offers

WR
*** Quintin Payton (T L Hanna HS) Anderson, SC 6-4/190
*** Bryan Underwood (Cleveland Heights HS) University Hts, OH 5-8.5/162/4.62
**** Justin Brown (Concord HS) Wilmington, DE 6-3.5/210/4.48
*** Kinsman Thomas (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-3/210/4.59
*** Carvin Powell (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-2.5/198/4.50
**** Jheranie Boyd (Ashbrook HS) Gastonia, NC 6-3/185/4.45 UNC

TE
** Anthony Talbert (Winton Woods HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-4/225
*** Asa Watson (Rock Hill HS) Rock Hill, SC 6-4/200

OT
***** Xavier Nixon (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-6/285
***** Marcus Hall (Glenville HS) Cleveland, OH 6-5/293/5.35
**** Travis Bond (Bertie HS) Windsor, NC 6-6/330
*** Kadeem Custis (St. John Neumann HS) Philadelphia, PA 6-5/270/5.00
*** Andrew Tiller (Nassau) Garden City, NY 6-6/320/5.00
*** Duran Christophe (Woodstock HS) Woodstock, GA 6-5.5/257/5.59

OG
*** Denzelle Good (Gaffney Senior HS) Gaffney, SC 6-4/295
**** Quinton Washington (Timberland HS) Saint Stephen, SC 6-4/322
* Gus Handler (Barrington HS) Barrington, IL 6-3/265

C
No Offers

DT
*** Brian Slay (Stone Bridge HS) Ashburn, VA 6-3/275
*** Tyson Chandler (North Plainfield HS) North Plainfield, NJ 6-6/315
*** Nathan Mageo (New Mexico Military) Roswell, NM 6-4/280/4.96
*** Frankie Davis (East Ridge HS) Clermont, FL 6-3/270
*** Deion Roberson (Tucker HS) Tucker, GA 6-2/275
*** Raynard Randolph (Gwynn Park HS) Brandywine, MD 6-3/295
*** Akeem Spence (Ft. Walton Beach HS) Fort Walton Beach, FL 6-1/290
* Conor O'Neal (Newsome HS) Lithia, FL 6-3/300
**** Edwin Herbert (CC of San Francisco) San Francisco, CA 6-3.5/295 Florida

DE
*** Ricky Dowdy (High Point Central HS) High Point, NC 6-3/225
*** Sylvester Crawford (Victory Christian Center Sch.) Charlotte, NC 6-5/215
** Darryl Cato-Bishop (Lawrence Academy) Groton, MA 6-4/230
* A.J. Ferguson (South Brunswick HS) Southport, NC 6-3/250/4.80
**** Jason Ankrah (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 6-4/240/4.79
*** Julius Forte (Boca Ciega HS) Gulfport, FL 6-2/221/4.66
*** Izaan Cross (Flowery Branch HS) Flowery Branch, GA 6-4/250
*** Clinton Simpkins (Chancellor HS) Fredericksburg, VA 6-3/215/4.60
*** Bernardo Nunez (Hoboken HS) Hoboken, NJ 6-2/220/4.70
** Brian Jordan (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-4/207
** Luke Sager (Niceville Senior HS) Niceville, FL 6-4/240
** Josh Jackson (Gainesville HS) Gainesville, GA 6-1/242/5.00
**** Duane Chisolm (Beaufort HS) Beaufort, SC 6-2/250 South Carolina

MLB
*** Ryan Cheek (Lancaster HS) Lancaster, OH 6-0.5/232/4.51
** Julian Burnett (Westside HS) Macon, GA 5-9.5/222/4.66 Georgia Tech
**** Hawatha Bell (David W Butler HS) Matthews, NC 6-0/225 UNC

SLB
*** Luke Kuechly (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-3/205
*** Antwon Higgs (Pompano Beach HS Institute) Pompano Beach, FL 6-2/243/4.94
*** LeRon Furr (Carver HS) Columbus, GA 6-3/213 Oklahoma State

WLB
**** Jamil Merrell (Paul M. Hodgson Vocational Tec) Newark, DE 6-4/210/4.60
*** Robert Nelson (Stone Mountain HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-0/205

S
*** Hans Rice (Eufaula HS) Eufaula, AL 6-3/195/4.5
*** Brandan Bishop (Boca Raton HS) Boca Raton, FL 6-1/197/4.66 thanks bro
** Boogie McCray (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2/210
* Jarrell Harrison (CC of San Francisco) San Francisco, CA 6-2/210/4.55
* Donald Coleman (The Hun School) Princeton, NJ 6-0/207/4.46
**** David Batts (El Camino) Torrance, CA 6-2/200/4.50 Nevada
**** Jonathan Meeks (Hargrave Military Academy) Chatham, VA 6-2/185 Clemson

CB
**** Jarvis Byrd (Pahokee HS) Pahokee, FL 5-10/170/4.65
*** Dean Haynes (Northwest Whitfield County HS) Tunnel Hill, GA 6-0/200
** Rashard Smith (Dublin HS) Dublin, GA 5-10/175
*** Dale Peterman (Ursuline HS) Youngstown, OH 5-11/176/4.67
*** Jairus Jones (Wharton HS) Tampa, FL 6-1/205/4.60
** Keith Reaser (Miami Killian HS) Miami, FL 5-10/-/4.44
**** Terry Shankle (South Stanly HS) Norwood, NC 6-0/180 UNC
**** Travis Hawkins (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 5-11/185/4.42 Maryland

K,P
** Chris Ward (Starrs Mill HS) Fayetteville, GA 6-1/170


------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------


Scholarships Count
16 Available for 2009
-21 2009 Commits
-2 Rejoining Team (Sam Jones and John Ware if he requalifies)
+3 Class of 2008 who didn't qualify (Palmer, Everett, Mangram)
+6 Transfer or Left Team (Jaradat, Locust, Golder, Burke, T. Barnes, Linney)
-------------------------------------
2 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 1
Backfield - 2
Receivers - 3
Linemen - 1
------------------
Total Offense - 7

DEFENSE
Linemen - 7
Linebackers - 1
Secondary - 5
------------------
Total Defense - 13

SPECIAL TEAMS
Kickers - 1

Geographical Diversity
Alabama - 1
Florida - 3
Georgia - 4
Massachusetts - 1
New Jersey - 1
New Mexico - 1
North Carolina - 4
South Carolina - 2
Ohio - 3
Virginia - 1

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 0
4* - 1
3* - 15
2* - 5
1* - 0
--------------------
Average Stars - 2.81

12/16/2008 12:27:05 PM

Bummer on Meeks. I guess it was foolish to think that we had a good chance to get him.

12/16/2008 3:59:11 PM

I think harrison is announcing this afternoon so that looks like another S we'll miss out on.

12/16/2008 4:22:27 PM

In 2010 recruiting news, rob crisp made the 2010 top 100 on scout. he's the only NC guy on there and a ****, so that automatically means we won't get him

12/16/2008 4:24:44 PM

he must be a lock for UNCocksuckers

12/16/2008 4:33:59 PM

Actually we are in good shape for Crisp, wouldn't be surprised if we get him.

12/16/2008 4:36:06 PM

Crisp's AIM name has "ncsuballer" in it, so at least for now we are in good shape.

12/16/2008 4:37:35 PM

Crisp most likely won't announce until his senior season

12/16/2008 4:55:44 PM

Harrison to Missouri

12/16/2008 5:36:02 PM

Not too surprising considering his Rivals profile showed him as listing Missouri as "High Interest". His JUCO teammate is also going there.

12/16/2008 6:12:28 PM

expect the 2010 in-state class to look more like the 2008 in-state class for NC State. We'll get our share of good ones in '10.

12/16/2008 6:17:22 PM

I think having a good showing in the bowl and then winning a few early games next season will go a LONG way in hauling in some of these big namers from NC.

Such as Crisp and Creecy. But both of those appear to be guys who are going to take it up until signing day.

12/16/2008 7:53:08 PM

Supposedly the safety Coleman has committed. No link that i see yet.

12/16/2008 9:04:26 PM

Yeah Steve Williams posted a topic on the premium board titled "Coleman Commits!"

12/16/2008 9:06:10 PM

on the front page, welcome welcome

12/16/2008 9:10:51 PM

coleman is built about the same as bishop. If they both hit the weights and maintain their speed, they will add solid depth to our secondary which has been limited recently.

12/16/2008 9:20:09 PM

"Pack Lands NJ Safety"

See I don't like the title to that article. Coleman grew up in Michigan and just happened to do his post grad in Jersey. That would be like an article for Sam Jones saying "State gets commitment from Virginia lineman".

12/16/2008 9:20:41 PM

Nice to get Coleman. He's a prep guy, so he's already had one year post-graduation and should come in even more ready to play. If we RS him, he'll be ~20 y/o as a RS-FR.

12/16/2008 9:43:55 PM

He softens the blow of missing out on Meeks and Harrison some. I think it shows how good of talent evaluators this staff is when this guy gets an offer from us and two weeks later Minnesota and Iowa offer. Delaware also offered. Coleman probably knew he could play D-IA football, but needed another year to get noticed, kind of like Meeks. Of course Meeks played for Hargrave, which gets probably the most attention amongst all the prep schools with post graduate programs out there.

Besides getting offers from Iowa, Minnesota, and Delaware, Coleman had at some point been recruited by North Carolina, Wake Forest, Connecticut, Miami (Ohio), South Florida, Army and Duke.

[Edited on December 16, 2008 at 10:00 PM. Reason : ]

12/16/2008 9:58:27 PM

So I went and watched Brandan Bishop's video again because I only watched the defensive highlights previously. Dude loves to hit, I think he's going to be a monster before he's done here.

12/16/2008 10:34:11 PM

Coleman's scout.com prep video is ridiculous. Hopefully he doesn't get a rankings bump

12/17/2008 11:58:38 AM

Quote :

""Pack Lands NJ Safety""

it's better than the rivals headlines, which are always something like "sleeper safety commits to pack"

12/17/2008 12:15:47 PM

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/football/palm/sfl-flsppbrecruit18pndec18,0,4110717.story

Quote :

" Pahokee cornerback Jarvis Byrd is emerging in the recruiting process. Byrd is a 5-foot-10, 180-pound senior who has verbally committed to North Carolina State. Since his commitment, he has picked up offers from fellow ACC schools Florida State and Wake Forest. Prior to N.C. State getting involved with Byrd, he had offers from Troy and Southern Miss. "I'm real surprised everybody started paying attention to me after I committed," Byrd said. Byrd helped lead Pahokee to its third straight Class 2B state championship Saturday and is one of Pahokee's top playmakers. He is a physical cornerback with 4.5 speed in the 40-yard dash. This season, Byrd racked up more than 60 tackles along with an interception, 15 pass breakups, three sacks, three blocked punts, two blocked fields goals, four forced fumbles and two recoveries. "A lot of teams show me a lot of respect," Byrd said. "I usually only get thrown at once or twice a game." Florida State recently offered Byrd, which will make his decision tough, considering FSU was the school he grew up rooting for. "That is going to make it hard for me," Byrd said. "N.C. State is still my No. 1 team right now because they are the first big school that offered me so I'm still committed to them. But I'm telling you, it's going to be a big decision for me." Byrd, who has visited Wake Forest and Alabama State, will visit N.C. State Jan. 9 and FSU on Jan. 16. Two of Byrd's teammates are looking to take visits in January as well. Safety Carlos Lammons is considering taking an official visit to Middle Tennessee State, Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Indiana. Cornerback Willie Hickman said he will take official visits to Indiana, FAU and Minnesota. Atlantic cornerback Jayron Hosley is another prospect in Palm Beach County who has seen his stock rise in the last couple of months. Hosley, the fourth-ranked prospect in the county, took an official visit to Louisville in September and appeared to be the front-runner. However, since then, Hosley has picked up offers from Ohio State and Michigan. He is scheduled to visit Michigan on Jan. 16, South Florida on Jan. 23 and Clemson on Jan. 30. He will have one visit remaining, which he could keep open for Ohio State, Vanderbilt or another school that gets on him late. Boynton Beach wide receiver Eddie Weal is a prospect to keep an eye on in as he is likely headed to East Mississippi Community College. Weal, a 5-11, 165-pound speedster, was among the top receivers in Palm Beach this year as he caught 41 passes for 589 yards and seven touchdowns. Weal, who will be participating in the FACA North-South game Dec. 23 in Sebring, had interest from a number of big-time colleges, but is headed to the junior college route."

12/18/2008 11:59:02 AM

Quote :

""I'm real surprised everybody started paying attention to me after I committed," Byrd said."

Hopefully that weighs heavily on his mind because fuck FSU for offering the kid, who was basically in their backyard, only after we did.

12/18/2008 12:31:16 PM

^

12/18/2008 12:35:36 PM

if he commits to FSU I'm gonna be pretty pissed

come on homeboy, you know what the right thing to do is. Go to the school that showed you enough love for you to commit to them.

and you'll get to pick off ponder or ej manuel or whoever the fuck is throwing the ball for FSU and rub it in they face.

12/18/2008 2:01:02 PM

http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/dec/18/wolfpack-adds-safety-from-detroit-to-class/sports-college/

Quote :

"Busy N.C. State added another player to its 2009 recruiting class yesterday when safety Donald Coleman of Detroit committed. Coleman (6-0, 210) is currently a post-graduate student at the Hun School in Princeton, N.J. Coleman also had scholarship offers from Minnesota, Iowa and Delaware but said one reason he picked N.C. State was because he sees a championship program developing under Coach Tom O'Brien. "I truly believe with Coach O'Brien's track record we're going to have a national program soon," Coleman said. "I believe we're going to win the national championship in my time at N.C. State." Coleman, the Wolfpack's 22nd commitment, had 75 tackles and one interception this season, forced five fumbles and recovered them all and returned one of the recoveries for a touchdown. He also rushed for 800 yards and scored seven touchdowns at running back and has been timed at 4.46 seconds in the 40-yard dash. "When I get to N.C. State I'm going to bring hitting ability," Coleman said. "It's my strength as a player. I want to get out there as fast as I can and help the team.""

12/18/2008 4:46:41 PM

^sounds so much like what Demario Pressley said when he committed to Amato.....

12/18/2008 4:50:38 PM

Well TOB isn't Amato.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/recruiting/football/2008-12-17-class-leaders_N.htm

Quote :

"Making an impression While it's still early in the week at the Shrine Bowl of the Carolinas, one player who has caught the eye of Rivals.com recruiting analysts is tight end Asa Watson of Rock Hill (S.C.). Watson is the brother of New England Patriot tight end Ben Watson. Watson (6-4/210 pounds) has a good frame to work with, and he believes he brings a lot of positives to the table. "I would say my speed; it is around a 4.6, but I practice at full speed all the time," he said. "If I'm being a critic, then I'd say I need to work on my blocking. I need to put weight on in order to have more power." While he's only a two-star prospect, schools from the ACC and SEC have been working him hard. "I have narrowed it down to three schools — Duke, N.C. State and Maryland," Watson said. "They have all offered. I have January visits set up to N.C. State, and I'm working on a visit to Maryland. I already visited Duke on Dec. 5.""

Picking up Watson would be great. I wonder if that's a typo or if that's true when it says visits, as in he'd visit us multiple times.

12/18/2008 5:03:28 PM

Well I like kids coming in with that attitude even if it may seem unrealistic, get enough of those kids and some good coaching behind them and you never know. Our first goal has got to be to start a season as strong as we have finished the last 2 though.

12/18/2008 5:04:07 PM

any new updated on Jarvis Byrd, would suck to see him sign with FSU

12/18/2008 6:31:12 PM

Can't blame Asa if he looked hard at Maryland with the way they utilize the TEs, but I'm hoping the resurgence of our passing game and the inclusion of our TEs will show up and help us reel him in.

Don't really expect much from Byrd until after his visit with us.

12/18/2008 6:39:13 PM

^ Also Asa's father played at Maryland.

12/18/2008 8:48:42 PM

Class of 2010 players that have been offered (known offers listed, * beside name denotes in-state player):

* Robert Crisp - **** - OT - Clemson, Georgia, Maryland, Michigan, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Boston College, Miami, East Carolina

* A.J Marshall - CB - Duke, North Carolina, North Carolina State

* Tony Creecy - WR - East Carolina, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Oregon, Stanford, Wake Forest, Duke

* T.J. Leifheit - OT - Duke, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina

* Prince Shembo - DE - Clemson,North Carolina State, Stanford

* Kendall Moore - MLB - North Carolina, North Carolina State, Wake Forest, Maryland

* Gabe King - DE - Duke, Georgia, North Carolina, North Carolina State

* Chris McCain - OLB - East Carolina, North Carolina, North Carolina State

* Joshua Snead - ATH - Duke, Georgia Tech, North Carolina State

Paul Jones - **** - QB - Duke, Iowa, North Carolina State, Pittsburgh, Stanford

Dontae Johnson - S - Maryland, Michigan State, North Carolina State

Andrew Carswell - WR - Duke, North Carolina State, Pittsburgh

Tai-ler Jones - WR - Arkansas, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Miami, Ole Miss, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Ohio State, South Carolina, Stanford, West Virginia

Mark Shuman - OT - California, Duke, Georgia, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Stanford, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech

Ego Ferguson - DE - Boston College, Clemson, Connecticut, Duke, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan State, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Travis Williams - OLB - Louisville, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Penn State, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

Lamarcus Joyner - CB - Boston College, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Ole Miss, North Carolina State, Tennesse, West Virginia



2010 Commitments:
Tobais Palmer - *** - RB - JC

Roy Mangram - *** - S - JC

I can't wait for Palmer and Mangram to get here.

12/18/2008 10:23:10 PM

"Tai-ler"


lol

12/19/2008 8:39:24 AM

I've seen us mentioned with the following guys a couple times:

* Robert Crisp

* A.J Marshall

* Tony Creecy

* Prince Shembo

* Kendall Moore

* Gabe King

* Fre'shad Hunter

12/19/2008 10:29:53 AM

If we end up getting more commits than we have scholarships, any ideas as to which recruit is most likely to get screwed?

I'd hate for it to happen, but I'd love the idea of snatching 3-4 **** or ***** players right at the end.

12/19/2008 10:51:40 AM

Some of our current guys will probably enroll early and go against last year's total.

I don't really see us having a shot with any 4 or 5 star players left. Our best shot are some quality 3-star OL.

X. Nixon has narrowed his list to Miami, Florida, and LSU. Just glad to see UNC off that list.

I think we're just trying to round out the class with a few OL now(namely Wentz at C).

Now I'm just ready to wrap up this class and start looking at next year's class. I'm pretty comfortable with what we have right now.

12/19/2008 11:04:07 AM

I'd like to land Christophe. Dude is physically similar to Xavier Nixon. I think right now we are top 2 with Louisville. Getting a true center and not a converted guard or tackle would be great. Wentz seems like he'd be a good pickup. I also think we'll take a commitment from Jairus Jones. It seems the staff is pretty high on him.

12/19/2008 11:12:37 AM

Quote :

"If we end up getting more commits than we have scholarships, any ideas as to which recruit is most likely to get screwed? I'd hate for it to happen, but I'd love the idea of snatching 3-4 **** or ***** players right at the end."

Don't think this is really going to happen. Based on what's been said on the premium boards, TOB likes to have recruiting wrapped up and not go into NSD with questions.

I think the potential defectors are Jarvis Byrd (FSU) and someone mentioned that AJ Ferguson is open but I haven't seen that article. Ferguson may not qualify, but I think he's the only ? mark right now.

12/19/2008 11:14:40 AM

Denzelle Good was raised to a 4 star on scout. STAAAAAAAAAAAS http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3825992

12/19/2008 4:40:51 PM

OT Kadeem Custis committed to Temple yesterday. Besides us and Temple, Duke, ECU, Pitt and WVU offered. Custis was from Philly so he may have wanted to stay close to home.

12/19/2008 4:45:08 PM

looks like we can land 4 star players, they just don't know it yet

12/19/2008 5:37:12 PM

Jamil Merrell committed to Rutgers a couple of days ago.

12/19/2008 7:18:47 PM

Antwon Higgs to Purdue

12/19/2008 7:20:32 PM

Apparently we have offered Larry Raper? It's on both scout and rivals but I thought he wasn't interested in us at all.

12/19/2008 7:28:14 PM

bump

12/19/2008 7:30:16 PM

bump

12/19/2008 7:30:51 PM

bump

12/19/2008 7:31:31 PM