eyedrb,

That's the truth. I'm surprised that whole plagarism scandal of his 20 years ago hasn't popped up. If I was the McCain team, I would at least have on commercial showing how Biden LIED in 1988 about his educational credentials after bragging to a voter "You know, I think I have a higher IQ than you do."

And Palin gets ripped for the Bridge to Nowhere Flip-Flop? Puh-fucking-leez

9/24/2008 2:11:39 PM

^^^^
I know coal is important. You know coal is important.

What percentage of voters do you think know coal is important? How often does coal come up as a mainstream political issue?

When's the last time you saw a poll that said "Which candidate do you think is better for the coal industry?"?

Never, it's a non-issue in this election.

^^^
Biden has a pretty long and distinguished career as a politician. That's what people associate Biden with. With Palin though, all she has is her lies and fuck ups.

[Edited on September 24, 2008 at 2:13 PM. Reason : :]

9/24/2008 2:12:30 PM

what had biden done shrike.. off the top of your head? ( i cant think of anything other than gaffes)

Where did palin fuck up? Off the top of your head?

9/24/2008 2:16:05 PM

Yeah, not dumb enough to fall into that trap. Google it.

9/24/2008 2:18:37 PM

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"What percentage of voters do you think know coal is important? How often does coal come up as a mainstream political issue?"

I'm pretty sure it's very important to PA voters who are directly involved with the coal industry.


Aside from your opinion that it's a "non-issue" in this election, you don't think it's odd how while Biden is making these comments, Obama is making almost the exact opposite comments somewhere else? Biden directly contradicted their ticket's coal policy. Aren't you worried there are other issues that Biden just hasn't come out and said on video that directly contradict something Obama (or Biden himself) has said in the past? They're just saying whatever the particular audience wants to hear. Sure, coal is a big issue to PA and some other coal-oriented states, but the bigger issue is how he's not even in line with what the ticket has been and is currently saying.

9/24/2008 2:20:13 PM

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"Yeah, not dumb enough to fall into that trap. Google it. "

hahah, just proved my point. thanks

aim, obama is clearly pandering to PA bc its in play now, somehow. Biden is probably touting thier official policy. Its politics as usual.

I can remember Gore promising that Oak Ridge would see no funding cuts from a Clinton Admin. He drastically cut defense spending and really hurt Oak Ridge... So during the next election gore got booed everywhere he went in east tenn.. kinda funny actually.

[Edited on September 24, 2008 at 2:23 PM. Reason : .]

9/24/2008 2:21:26 PM

Yeah of course it's politics and both sides are guilty of it

I just wanted to point out Obama/Biden are just as guilty as McCain has been and that nothing is going to change if they get elected... it's all bullshit

9/24/2008 2:25:35 PM

I dunno aim, im afraid that obama and a dem congress will use this down time to impose more regulations on businesses, raise taxes, and create another massive entitlement in socialized medicine.

Look at his website. The fairpay act. (sounds great.. so the majority of people will go for it without looking into it at all). YOu have him saying that a business cant replace a striking union worker? You have to be kidding me.


Oh and will one of you obama fans tell me what tax breaks companies going overseas bush is giving them? please.

[Edited on September 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM. Reason : .]

9/24/2008 2:27:29 PM

yeah I'm afraid of what they have in mind too... I was talking about the pandering and saying whatever the hell will get you votes

9/24/2008 2:32:58 PM

yeah, I agree with you. But you wont get one of the obama fans to. They just dont wanna see anything wrong with him. Kinda dangerous way to view a fing politician. Oh well, Ill just have to hire an accountant and use some tax shelters for the next 4 yrs. The good news is I wont need my investment income for another 30 yrs.

9/24/2008 2:34:57 PM

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"probably so he doesnt say 'uh' 17 times in every answer"

ok, i'll rephrase my question - how in the world would it be possible to use a teleprompter in a fair debate, where questions are not known beforehand

9/24/2008 2:36:22 PM

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"I dunno aim, im afraid that obama and a dem congress will use this down time to impose more regulations on businesses"

Rofl...how is that different than the Republican proposed corporate welfare for the rich? You're so afraid of national healthcare because it will crush the profit you make as an eyedr that you'd just as well see the nation tank on this proposal than actually admit that a little bit of regulation or enforcing the regulation that already existed might be a good thing.

9/24/2008 2:52:16 PM

Breaking News from CNN:

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"John McCain suspends campaigning to work on economy, requests postponing Friday debate; asks Obama do the same."

Oh look, another McCain gimmick!

9/24/2008 2:58:46 PM

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"John McCain suspends campaigning to work on economy"

DON'T WORRY EVERYONE! McCAIN'S ON THE JOB!!

9/24/2008 3:01:26 PM

lol, nice cheap trick to buy some votes. He's more concerned about the recent poll numbers than I thought.

9/24/2008 3:06:15 PM

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"NEW YORK - Republican John McCain says he's directing his staff to work with Barack Obama's campaign and the debate commission to delay Friday's debate because of the economic crisis. In a statement, McCain says he will stop campaigning after addressing former President Bill Clinton's Global Initiative session on Thursday and return to Washington to focus on the nation's financial problems. McCain also said he wants President Bush to convene a leadership meeting in Washington. Both he and Obama would attend the session "

9/24/2008 3:07:40 PM

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"lol, nice cheap trick to buy some votes. He's more concerned about the recent poll numbers than I thought."

John McCain puts country first, my friend.
Obama should rejoice. Despite his marvelous telepromter-reading abilities, he sucks at live debate.

9/24/2008 3:14:26 PM

Of course, he'd never resort to a cheap political play like this! You've shown me the light Socks...

9/24/2008 3:16:02 PM

"work on economy"

i.e.

"working to understand the economy"

9/24/2008 3:16:35 PM

McCain sucks without a teleprompter too. I don't understand you socks``.

Also, this is something the McCain camp will quietly back away from.

9/24/2008 3:18:04 PM

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"John McCain puts country first, my friend. "

This is by far biggest political stunt of this campaign, from either party. Stalling a presidential campaign isn't putting country first, it's desperation.

9/24/2008 3:18:30 PM

FOX News Poll: Obama Reclaims Lead Over McCain, 45% to 39%
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/fox-news-poll-obama-reclaims-lead-over-mccain-45-to-39/
another poll confirms that Obama is widening his lead

9/24/2008 3:18:54 PM

it's a cheap trick

pathetic

9/24/2008 3:19:27 PM

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"John McCain puts country first, my friend"

yeah, give me a break. this is so lame.

It's like McCain is a college student with a bunch of assignments, and he wants to spend the next couple days working on his end-of-term paper.
"Let's see..... I have Iraq, Healthcare, and this damned US Economy to fix, all by Monday..... I think I will do nothing except work on the economy until Friday evening, then I can finish up Iraq and Healthcare over the weekend, and still have time to party on Sunday night!"

It's just laughable to think that by not campaigning for 1.5 days, he's actually going to make some progress on the US Economy.

9/24/2008 3:28:23 PM

MCCAIN SUSPENDS HIS CAMPAIGN DUE TO ECONOMIC CRISIS

calls on Obama to do the same

wants Friday's debate postponed

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/24/campaign.wrap/index.html

9/24/2008 3:29:24 PM

"Obama reached out to McCain privately to agree to a shared set of bailout principles. McCain went off the handle again and tried to use the crisis as a way to call off the debates."

He can try to make it look like some big bipartisan initiative but Obama called him this morning at 8:30 am to issue a parternship on this without any fucking press release, now he is acting like he owns this joint effort. f that.

9/24/2008 3:35:32 PM

^ It's a clever move on McCain's part though that can only help him.

Most of the news reports include that bit about Obama, but the headlines are all about McCain.

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http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/149519.asp
Obama effigy found in Oregon shows ugly side of Northwest

[Edited on September 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM. Reason : ]

9/24/2008 3:38:59 PM

Nice work mccain. If he votes on this and obama doesnt.. it will only help his campaign.

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"You're so afraid of national healthcare because it will crush the profit you make as an eyedr that you'd just as well see the nation tank on this proposal than actually admit that a little bit of regulation or enforcing the regulation that already existed might be a good thing. "

You have made it pretty clear by this statement you have no clue what goes on in healthcare currently.

But using your thought process.... What happens to businesses who profits get "crushed" as you put it? Think for a second dipshit.

9/24/2008 3:40:12 PM

Nice work McCain? NICE WORK MCCAIN?

What the fuck? He's being manipulative and trying to A) turn the tide of the bad polling and B) back out of the debates like a chicken shit and c) act like how owns this so he can be called all MAVRICKY

You guys can't see through that? This is purely a political ploy..another vapid tactic.

9/24/2008 3:49:00 PM

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"Palin demurs This isn't a good scene, and may have the McCain campaign regretting permitting reporters into the photo ops where, as Jonathan Martin notes, they have a bad habit of asking questions: McCain then looked around the room and gestured as if to welcome questions. The AP reporter shouted a question at Gov. Palin (“Governor, what have you learned from your meetings?”) but McCain aide Brooke Buchanan intervened and shepherded everybody out of the room. Palin looked surprised, leaned over to McCain and asked him a question, to which your pooler thinks he shook his head as if to say “No.” "

9/24/2008 3:49:28 PM

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"The only thing that's changed in the last 48 hours is the public polling."

9/24/2008 3:51:25 PM

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/mccain-not-comm.html

Yeah, Obama is not falling for this bullshit. He's going to knock it out of the park like every other critical point in this election.

9/24/2008 3:52:18 PM

thx for the race card again, moron. w00t!

9/24/2008 3:52:53 PM

^^don't worry, 0bama can still debate Biden

9/24/2008 3:55:09 PM

^ true. they do seem to disagree enough

9/24/2008 3:57:17 PM

ITS JUST A POLITICAL MOVE

GOD I HATE MCCAIN AND PALIN

9/24/2008 4:16:14 PM

HEY LOOK, A CANDIDATE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR AMERICA IN ACTION AND NOT JUST WORDS!

9/24/2008 4:30:00 PM

"I'm freefalling in the polls -- stop the campaign!!!1!"

what a load of crap.

9/24/2008 4:30:44 PM

JUST LIKE WHEN HE POSTPONED THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION TO HELP WITH THE HURRICANE CRISIS.......OH WAIT, THAT NEVER HAPPENED

9/24/2008 4:32:24 PM

uh, actually they scaled it down a shitload.

9/24/2008 4:33:06 PM

he's a lawmaker, not a rescue worker

[Edited on September 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ^that too]

9/24/2008 4:33:07 PM

Shrike, Actually, McCain went to Texas during the convention.

9/24/2008 4:35:11 PM

Wonderful, so he's already established he can handle his campaign while dealing with a crisis. Yet in this case, he wants to suspend his campaign entirely.

9/24/2008 4:37:08 PM

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"You have made it pretty clear by this statement you have no clue what goes on in healthcare currently. But using your thought process.... What happens to businesses who profits get "crushed" as you put it? Think for a second dipshit."

Isn't that what I said? You are terrified of Obama because that nice living you make feeding off the trough that is privatized health care might get taken down a notch or two. You're so punch drunk afraid of Obama, that you're still in here championing McCain and his laughable stance and utter ignorance about the current economic situation we are facing.

9/24/2008 4:38:04 PM

^^

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"HEY LOOK, A CANDIDATE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR AMERICA IN ACTION AND NOT JUST WORDS!"

9/24/2008 4:38:46 PM

Shrike, unlike the hurricane, the bailout is a legislative problem. Obama should quit trying to score political points by trying to hold a one-man debate (he's pretty good arguing with himself anyways). America needs a leader with real solutions.

9/24/2008 4:39:22 PM

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"The guy who a week ago said the fundamentals of our economy remain strong suddenly suspends his campaign and wants to cancel the first presidential debate to deal with a crisis that his vice presidential candidate now says could lead to another Great Depression if not addressed immediately."

-David Kurtz

Are you guys really falling for this shit?

9/24/2008 4:39:37 PM

^^ you have no clue what he just said, do you? He asked you what will happen to other businesses. As in, won't they be destroyed, thus killing jobs. thus hurting the economy. durrrrrrrr

9/24/2008 4:40:21 PM

obama is on now with his statement

9/24/2008 4:41:21 PM

So you think McCain is going to sit down and personally type up a bill (despite the fact he can't type) and force it through congress?



Or, is he going to take a lot of opportunities for photo ops?

9/24/2008 4:41:27 PM