Oblermann is such a douche. Your using Oblermann to prove a point?

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaqhhahah!!!!!111one

10/8/2008 11:10:19 AM

10/8/2008 11:31:27 AM

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"Oblermann is such a douche. Your using Oblermann to prove a point?"

im sure it sucks for you that Oblermann is so fucking right?

10/8/2008 11:41:52 AM

i'd rather hear chris berman break down politics than olbermann

10/8/2008 11:42:29 AM

"He's going back back back backbackback to that tired old argument."

10/8/2008 11:44:46 AM

10/8/2008 11:45:02 AM

If she's not a secessionist herself, why is she palling around with them?

10/8/2008 12:29:55 PM

^ it's ridiculous that we don't hear more about that

I mean, she's going around acting all cute and calling Obama a terrorist because he was in the same room with Ayers a few times. But her fucking husband was a secessionist! that's a much stronger connection, I'd say

10/8/2008 12:35:34 PM

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"he was in the same room with Ayers a few times."

understatement of the day

10/8/2008 1:20:07 PM

he was fucking 8 years old.

10/8/2008 1:26:27 PM

He was 8 years old in the late 90s for the Annenberg Challenge? Like I said, understatement of the day

10/8/2008 1:30:10 PM

Ayers was Chicago's 1997 Citizen of the Year.

WHAT A TURRRST!

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 1:38 PM. Reason : asd]

10/8/2008 1:36:29 PM

yeah, Chicago...AFGHANISTAN!!!!

10/8/2008 1:50:49 PM

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"But her fucking husband was a secessionist! that's a much stronger connection, I'd say "

except other than blather I don't believe they are blowing people up in markets, flying planes into buildings, or cutting off peoples heads on film.

every state has a "secessionist" movement of one sort or another

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"understatement of the day"

agree

monica was in the same building with bill a few times too then

10/8/2008 1:54:20 PM

^ Ayers never killed anyone. are you really suggesting he's in the same league as the 9/11 hijackers??

Palin's connection to the secessionist party is much closer than Obama and the weathermen. Acting like Obama and Ayers were bff is just stupid. You can't honestly believe that.

10/8/2008 2:21:08 PM

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"Ayers never killed anyone."

I guess bombing buildings in the 1960s and 1970s, IN THE UNITED STATES, is cool as long as nobody got killed in the bombings

are you really saying that a domestic terrorist and an international terrorist aren't even in the same LEAGUE?

10/8/2008 2:48:17 PM

crimes against property are different than crimes against people. that's my point, and I think we can agree on that.

10/8/2008 3:01:59 PM

i agree with that sole point, but that also implies that if the 9/11 hijackers had flown the planes into vacant buildings that somehow it wouldnt be any big deal

i don't see why its so hard to imagine obama has associated with some very radical people...where else do you think he gets his radical ideas?

10/8/2008 3:04:05 PM

I'm pretty sure 3000+ people dying is a bigger deal. That doesn't imply its not a big deal, just not NEARLY as big a deal.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 3:09 PM. Reason : ,]

10/8/2008 3:08:17 PM

no shit 3,000 people dying is a bigger deal

but you say they're "not similar"? give me a fucking break

are the terrorists who flew the plane into the pentagon not as big of a deal as the WTC hijackers since they didnt kill anyone? realize what you're saying

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 3:11 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2008 3:10:11 PM

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"^ Ayers never killed anyone. are you really suggesting he's in the same league as the 9/11 hijackers?? Palin's connection to the secessionist party is much closer than Obama and the weathermen. Acting like Obama and Ayers were bff is just stupid. You can't honestly believe that."

whoa, first off, you might want to take a few deep breaths, the election overall no matter who wins, ain't gonna do shit.

i did not compare ayers to the 9/11 hijackers, they are both terrorists. you don't have to kill people to be terrorists. though they often do and you will be painted with the same brush if you engage in such activities.

bff? what?

which is better: terrorist cell or group of nuts publicly meeting?

10/8/2008 3:11:47 PM

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"Ayers never killed anyone"

Ayers' girlfriend and best friend were killed while a bomb they were manufacturing under his direction went off prematurely. This bomb was also intended to be used at a local military base's Marine Corps ball type function to kill hundreds of soldiers/marines, their civilian dates and service personnel.

So there's two he basically did kill and hundreds more he was trying to kill.

He never killed anybody, but not for lack of trying. Ineptitude does not exclude terrorists from the label.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM. Reason : *]

10/8/2008 3:12:06 PM

Hey look, treetwista is trying to link Barack Obama to the Islamic extremists who flew planes into the WTC through his serving on a community service board with Ayers.

They talked about people like him on TV

I think they called them "idiots"

10/8/2008 3:14:00 PM

wow terpball i'm impressed...you made an entire post without pulling the race card

10/8/2008 3:17:15 PM

:carlface:

early islamic indoctrination
racial violence advocate minister


those 9/11 terrorists have become the archetypal terrorists, people are gonna think that when they hear the word terrorist. it's just the way it is.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/17/ayers-and-obama-what-is-t_n_97204.html

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 3:22 PM. Reason : h]

10/8/2008 3:22:38 PM

I wonder how many democrats giggled when the second plane hit - wonder how many see us as "had it coming"?

10/8/2008 3:24:26 PM

are you fucking serious, man? thats the single the most disgraceful, disgusting, and retarded thing i've ever read.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM. Reason : a]

10/8/2008 3:27:42 PM

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"He never killed anybody, but not for lack of trying. Ineptitude does not exclude terrorists from the label."

oh, so now we should punish people for hypothetical crimes?

10/8/2008 3:28:02 PM

No just for being in the same room with someone who committed the hypothetical crime

10/8/2008 3:31:06 PM

http://jezebel.com/5060061/pot-meet-kettle-john-mccains-angry-insults-are-simply-absurd


lol

10/8/2008 3:31:13 PM

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"oh, so now we should punish people for hypothetical crimes? "

Who said anything about punishing the man? Or Obama for that matter?

Revile? Yes. Look down on, be disgusted with, overall ostracizing? Yes. Punish? No.

Elect as the President of the United States? NO. Not unless he comes clean about this sh*t and indicates he made a big mistake associating with this lowlife, AND that Rev. Wright, AND anybody else of their ilk.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 3:47 PM. Reason : *]

10/8/2008 3:46:48 PM

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 3:50 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2008 3:49:15 PM

Obama has already denounced both Ayers and Wright. what else do you recommend?

10/8/2008 3:52:07 PM

one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, case in point Nelson Mandela, the world's most beloved terrorist

10/8/2008 3:54:57 PM

Denounced? Hardly. He's sidestepped it at best. Claimed he "didn't know" when he was launching his political career right from the man's living room.

He sidestepped his relationship with Wright too. He was a member of Wright's church for 20 years and "that isn't the Rev. Wright I know" is all he had to say on that.

Come clean, mofuck.

10/8/2008 3:55:22 PM

^agreed.

10/8/2008 3:57:14 PM

^^Motherfucker gave a 40 minute speech about how Wright was wrong. WTF more do you want?

10/8/2008 3:59:31 PM

He was the guy's "spiritual mentor" for 20 fucking years and 40 minutes of bullshit and not saying anything at all is enough for you?

Gullible fuck.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 4:02 PM. Reason : *]

10/8/2008 4:01:14 PM

That speech was overwhelmingly praised by people on both sides of the aisle.

fuck off.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2008 4:02:28 PM

orly?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/29/politics/main4056166.shtml

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"“I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday,” Obama said in a last-minute press conference today. The candidate said that after watching Wright’s appearance from Monday, “what became clear to me was that he was presenting a world view that contradicts what I am and what I stand for." Hitting on most of the major points in specific terms, Obama said “there are no excuses” for such comments. “They offended me. They rightly offend all Americans and they should be denounced." "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJiBDu5gWtc

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"Addressing Ayers specifically, Obama stated, "Now on this Ayers thing. ... Here's the bottom line, this guy did something despicable 40 years ago. ... Here's a guy who does something despicable when I'm eight years old. … He and I know each other as a consequence of work. He's not part of my campaign, he's not an adviser of mine. He's somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.""

10/8/2008 4:02:42 PM

for all of you that voted for George W. Bush, twice

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"Gullible fuck."

the rest of the world feels sorry for you idiots

[see, i too can call names]

10/8/2008 4:03:33 PM

Mccain has an equally insane religous leader in Rev. John "god sent Katrina because of gays" Hagee.

And Palin has been videotaped seeing a fucking witch doctor.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 4:05 PM. Reason : a]

10/8/2008 4:04:12 PM

Where was all of that over the course of the 20 years? The man's been saying that same shit all along, but when he gets called out he says "What we saw yesterday"

YESTERDAY? FFS, you should've been outraged and disassociated from this guy a long time ago.

I want the man to come clean and say "this is how I think. This is what I believe." This patina he's got going here is laughable.

Back to Ayers - "He's a guy I know from work" WTF, if he did such despicable things, what the fuck are you doing working with him in the first place? Seriously?

This is the guy that is poised to win this election? My faith in America is hitting a new low. If this is the type of fucking degenerate we're going to elect to the presidency... Our forefathers are spinning in their graves.

^ I'm not voting for either of them.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 4:06 PM. Reason : *]

10/8/2008 4:06:20 PM

jesus greets me

looks just like me

10/8/2008 4:07:06 PM

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"WTF, if he did such despicable things, what the fuck are you doing working with him in the first place? Seriously? "

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"Ayers won Chicago's 1997 Citizen of the Year."

for work on educational issues in Chicago.

10/8/2008 4:08:28 PM

I'm going to work on Agricultural issues with Mullah Omar one day too.

10/8/2008 4:09:42 PM

^^ but the other nominees were the guy who ran off Michael Jordan and Al Capone's ghost

10/8/2008 4:10:08 PM

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"I'm going to work on Agricultural issues with Mullah Omar one day too."

right because all terrorists are the same, Osama Bin Laden and Nelson Madela are practically the same person.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 4:13 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2008 4:13:20 PM

Did Nelson Mandela ever blow anything up? Ayers did.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 4:14 PM. Reason : *]

10/8/2008 4:14:18 PM

yes, are you fucking retarded? here's a quote from the wikipedia article on him

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"Fellow ANC member Wolfie Kadesh describes the bombing campaign led by Mandela: "When we knew that we going to start on 16 December 1961, to blast the symbolic places of apartheid, like pass offices, native magistrates courts, and things like that ... post offices and ... the government offices. But we were to do it in such a way that nobody would be hurt, nobody would get killed." [12] Mandela said of Wolfie: "His knowledge of warfare and his first hand battle experience were extremely helpful to me."[13]"

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"A few decades later, MK did wage a guerrilla war against the regime, especially during the 1980s, in which many civilians were killed. Mandela later admitted that the ANC, in its struggle against apartheid, also violated human rights"

check the citations if you don't believe it

10/8/2008 4:18:54 PM