By "it" do you mean "more career interceptions than touchdowns"

1/17/2011 10:03:34 AM

^^^ He was going after Rex earlier in the week. I'm sure there were words on the field, but who knows what was said there.

By "it" he means playing big in big games. Hard to argue with back to back AFC Championship appearances in your first two years.

He really landed in the perfect storm of a situation with the Jets. Very much akin to the way the Steelers took off after Roflcopter took the reins his rookie year.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:06 AM. Reason : .]

1/17/2011 10:04:06 AM

Bart Scott was PISSED. Tom Jackson you've been called out.

1/17/2011 10:04:14 AM

Or maybe you mean "fifth-lowest passer rating in the league this year"

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:07 AM. Reason : ^^ Think of how far they could have gone with a decent QB]

1/17/2011 10:06:39 AM

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"back to back AFC Championship appearances in your first two years"

^ maybe, but drives like the one to win at Indy with less than a minute on the clock and 3 TD's and no picks IN THE PLAYOFFS, with all the chips on the table, make up for any regular season deficiency in my opinion

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:10 AM. Reason : .]

1/17/2011 10:07:09 AM

Dare I say Sanchez is the bizarro Phillip Rivers?

1/17/2011 10:15:57 AM

One decent 40-yard drive doesn't make him a good QB

I don't know his stats in the Indy game, but I bet they weren't great

He plays better in the playoffs, but only because he plays below-average in the regular season

Dude is a game manager (and not a good one), not a game breaker ]

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM. Reason : 3 TDs in one playoff game, every other start has been mediocre at best]

1/17/2011 10:19:38 AM

Most games in the NFL are lost, not won.

Having a guy who doesn't make big plays or mistakes can be more valuable than having a guy who makes both.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:28 AM. Reason : x]

1/17/2011 10:28:47 AM

Since when is a game manager a bad thing?

You certainly don't luck your way into the AFC championship two times in your first two years. I'm not arguing that he's "great" quarterback. I'm simply saying that IN THE PLAYOFFS, the single most important games in a quarterback's life when they will forever be judged and build a legacy for themselves, he plays big. You can't deny that. Quote all the stats you want.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:33 AM. Reason : .]

1/17/2011 10:31:32 AM

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"The most shocking part is how badly Sanchez ended up outplaying Brady imo."

Aside from the interception, Brady was better in every statistical category except TDs. Don't forget that Crumpler dropped an easy TD, Welker dropped a fairly easy one at the goalline and Branch dropped a key pass on fourth down as they were driving for the comeback.

Sanchez:Jets:ilfer:Ravens except that the Jets D isn't good enough to win them the superbowl this year I'd bet.

Credit to Sanchez for playing well, but he definitely didn't badly outplay Brady.

1/17/2011 10:38:59 AM

Ribs has consumed the kool aid

1/17/2011 10:40:49 AM

Sanchez didn't have to throw like that because he was up 14 in the 4th quarter. Without that last drive to cut it to 7 right at the end of the game, Brady's stats wouldn't look nearly as polished. He never got comfortable and some of those drops and misses were because the Jets got him off his spot.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:42 AM. Reason : ^ you're damn right I want a winning QB in the playoffs if that's what you mean]

1/17/2011 10:42:02 AM

The larger sample size (the regular season) says Sanchez sucks

Whether or not his team is winning in the playoffs, he doesn't have an awful lot to do with it

6 TD, 3 int (that's a 1:1 before yesterday), bad passer rating, mediocre completion percentage

He's going to get lit up by the Steelers defense

You'll see

You'll all see

1/17/2011 10:47:27 AM

You left out 4-1 in the playoffs (all road games) in those stats

1/17/2011 10:50:06 AM

Agree with Ernie, too early to be drinking the Sanchez kool-aid

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 10:51 AM. Reason : ^Yeh, Sanchez single-handedly won those 4 games. The other Jets players did nothing to help win them]

1/17/2011 10:50:51 AM

So you went to the rallydurham Mike Vick is a Golden God school of attributing wins and losses to QBs

Surely the Jets couldn't be winning in spite of his lackluster performances

Like I said, give them a good QB and they'd be steamrolling everyone

1/17/2011 10:51:22 AM

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"He never got comfortable and some of those drops and misses were because the Jets got him off his spot."

He hit Welker, Branch, and Crumpler in the hands. But you are right, the Jets did put constant pressure on Brady recording 5 sacks (0 sacks for the Pats, if you were wondering). Of course, Sanchez didn't have much to do with that. He also didn't have much to do with Cromartie having two monster kick returns giving them short fields. Give him credit, he did what he had to do to win, but he didn't outplay Brady.

I don't even like the pats, but hearing all the sportscasters suck on the sanchez cock this morning after a below average regular season and a slightly above average playoffs has me grumpy.

1/17/2011 10:57:07 AM

Not really. Their whole gameplan in built on dominating Time of Possession. A good QB means less to their success than it would to almost any other team. Their whole blueprint is built around having a QB who simply doesn't fuck up.


Would they have more success with Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc? Of course. But those guys wouldn't be putting up 350 yard, 3 TD games in that system.

1/17/2011 10:58:30 AM

Their whole blueprint is built around a guy with more interceptions than touchdowns

1/17/2011 10:59:15 AM

What about that perfect throw he made to Santonio late in the 2nd half in the back end zone yesterday to basically seal it for his team. Or the throw he made against Indy to Braylon on right sideline to get them into FG range. That's the clutch play I'm talking about that seals it for his team. Both of those were world class.

Once again, I'm not saying he is "great", but he shows up big in big games and makes that one or two plays when they ask him to. I'd kill to have that kind of player on the Panthers.

1/17/2011 11:00:20 AM

First, there's no such thing as 'clutch'. Second, wow two throws crown his ass.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 11:01 AM. Reason : Your perception of a good QB has obviously been hindered by watching Panthers football]

1/17/2011 11:01:16 AM

Nobody twists around people's words like Ernie

Except maybe Sean Salisbury

1/17/2011 11:01:31 AM

Quote :

"First, there's no such thing as 'clutch'. Second, wow two throws crown his ass."

Haters gonna hate?

1/17/2011 11:02:17 AM

Girl you know it's true

1/17/2011 11:02:22 AM

heard some retard calling highlights on espnews this morning and he referred to sanchez as "Sanchize" everytime during the highlights. Made me wanna puke

1/17/2011 11:23:10 AM

I hate retards that call Julius Hodge "Jules."

1/17/2011 11:25:19 AM

the jets fan is getting grumpy

1/17/2011 11:45:29 AM

Funny how the biggest Jets and Packers fans on this site haven't been to a game of either team in years, if ever

1/17/2011 11:53:30 AM

Two years ago for me -- when they were out in the Bay Area.

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 12:05 PM. Reason : and i can't possibly be grumpy after yesterdayy]

1/17/2011 12:04:55 PM

^^^^"Da Jules from harlem on his way to stardom"

1/17/2011 12:08:39 PM

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"Funny how the biggest Jets and Packers fans on this site haven't been to a game of either team in years, if ever"

Hey Slave you never sent me those pics from your trip to Citi Field

1/17/2011 12:31:16 PM

Fenway will have to suffice

1/17/2011 2:35:36 PM

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"First, there's no such thing as 'clutch'."

Retarded.

1/17/2011 3:18:17 PM

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"I have to think New England comes out and lays the smack down. 2 touchdown victory easy. I'll be putting a significant chunk of cash on that outcome."

How much did you win?

1/17/2011 6:37:57 PM

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"Funny how the biggest Jets and Packers fans on this site haven't been to a game of either team in years, if ever"

I'd say that the biggest Packers fans on TWW are myself, Quinn, and Ernie. I know Quinn and I last went to a Packers game roughly a month and a half ago.

They're also playing Carolina in Charlotte next year, so I'm sure I'll see that one as well.

1/17/2011 6:41:54 PM

If you ranked the 12 playoff QBs, almost everyone would put Sanchez last.

Manning/Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Vick - take your pick
.....
Roethlisberger
.....
Ryan
Flacco
Cassel
.....
Cutler
Hasselbeck
Sanchez

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 7:23 PM. Reason : Here I will "rank" them Jesus Christ]

1/17/2011 6:54:18 PM

unless you're accounting for things that have happened off of the football field, how on earth can you have Roethlisberger that low?

1/17/2011 6:59:29 PM

boozie I seriously can't stop laughing at how fucked up that list is

From what I understand about you from the other threads is that there is a general consensus among ST frequenters that you're retarded anyway, so I'll let it slide.

1/17/2011 7:00:04 PM

? I just listed them....What QB out of the other 11 would you take Sanchez over?

It was by no means a rankings system

[Edited on January 17, 2011 at 7:07 PM. Reason : Yeah I'm retarded but I'm usually right, good logic]

1/17/2011 7:05:24 PM

usually when you start out a sentence with "if you ranked" and then list off 12 names, people will assume that you are ranking those 12 names

just a heads up

1/17/2011 7:09:32 PM

Honestly what is so fucking funny about that list?

If I took the time and ranked them, it wouldn't change much.

And yes I would take in effect Big Ben's near death experiences plus rape into effect.

1/17/2011 7:15:26 PM

thats a pretty accurate list anyway you slice it.

Sanchez will collapse this week don't worry.

They win in spite of that guy he stinks.

1/17/2011 7:30:45 PM

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"Manning/Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Vick - take your pick"

I would never pick vick from that list.

Manning easy.

Rodgers/Rivers if you want more years of consistent play.

Brady/Brees I dont know why.

Vick ....ok maybe if i got last pick.

1/17/2011 7:45:14 PM

1) lol at you editing 1 minute before your stupidity was forever locked in for all to see

2) putting 5 guys on one line isn't ranking quarterbacks

3) If you AND Rally are in agreement, I've never been more confident of Sanchez playing well this weekend.

1/17/2011 7:46:10 PM

Those five are hardly separable and them along with Rivers are the cream of the crop in the NFL.

It's not like a few years ago when Peyton and Brady stood way above everyone.

We are talking about this year's playoffs and which QB we want not their careers.

1/17/2011 7:51:02 PM

Quote :

"See, people talk shit about Sanchez all the time -- and don't get me wrong he is NOT a Top 10-ish QB yet... but guy has something about him and he can play. I firmly believe history will look back at him and he will have a better career than Eli Manning. He's got the "it" factor that a lot of QBs never have. "

No, he can thank his current system for his recent success, but he will always be a middle to lower tier qb.

1/17/2011 11:16:48 PM

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"Funny how the biggest Jets and Packers fans on this site haven't been to a game of either team in years, if ever"

Well, as the creator of 3 of the last 4 official Jets threads (which I haven't used this season's much lately since there's really just 2 of us that use it), I will say that I don't get to many games. I went to the pre-season game this season, but didn't get a chance to go to any others this season. I'm just extremely busy at this time of the year. As for that list, I put him above Hasselbeck and Cassel, and just behind Flacco (if not better than) and Cutler. Plus, he's only in his 2nd year. Outside of Flacco, those others have been in the league for a few years. I'm not calling him Peyton Manning, but he's going to be a good quarterback in the league.

1/18/2011 12:24:24 AM

Quote :

"As for that list, I put him above Hasselbeck and Cassel"

So 17 Tds 13 INTs > 27 TDs 5 INTs in 14 games

Lol ok you're not a homer.

[Edited on January 18, 2011 at 9:44 PM. Reason : You seriously just said a QB with a 75.3 rating is better than a 98.8 dude]

1/18/2011 9:43:56 PM

Watch out Brady... you keep choking in the playoffs without your spygate footage you are going to have JC on your back!!

Quote :

"Jonathan Crompton will get another chance to make an NFL roster in 2011. The New England Patriots signed the former University of Tennessee quarterback to a future contract on Tuesday. The Patriots had signed Crompton to the practice squad Nov. 3. Crompton also worked out for the New York Jets and Houston Texans after he was waived from San Diego's practice squad Sept. 4. The Chargers drafted him in the fifth round in 2010 and signed a four-year deal worth $2.675 million, Tom Brady is the starter for the Patriots and Brian Hoyer was the backup this season."

Chargers were so fucking retarded to give him that type of money

1/18/2011 9:51:58 PM

Only on tww would people think Sanchez is better than Rivers, Manning, Brady, Vick, and Hasslebeck.

Sanchez is horrible, that's a given. They can't run against Pittsburgh so it's going to be third and long all game which equals punt.

The Jets can win if they score a defensive or special teams TD and the Pitt offense has under 250 yards.

Otherwise, forget it. Sanchez would be lucky to complete a pass this weekend, let alone win a game.

1/18/2011 10:04:33 PM