mistahubbs Suspended 270 Posts user info edit post |
WE GOT PUNK'D!!!!! 4/11/2006 10:55:41 PM |
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4/11/2006 11:24:14 PM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
We got fucked, and it looks like Cal didn't even pay for the lube.........
Quote : | "Calipari Down, Fans Cold on Brady (10pm Update)
John Calipari is staying at Memphis.
With that comes the conclusion of the John Calipari 2006 Contract Renegotiation Tour Ultimately, the guy ended up being the slimeball that so many people warned us that he was.
We don’t express these sentiments out of frustration for Calipari’s rejection of NC State. We say this because of they way that all of this went down. We also hope that our leaders at NC State take advantage of the opportunity to publicly call out Calipari for his behavior during the conversations - what the hell do you have to lose?
We aren’t going too much of our breath on the media whore, but we are going to do some re-capping for you so that you know the truth:
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Last week as NC State was engaged in legitimate conversations with Rick Barnes, John Calipari had multiple “friends” contact various NC State people expressing Calipari’s significant interest in the NC State job. *
As we reported, the NC State search committee doesn’t seem to multi-task and explore conversations with more than one coach at a time and was therefore ignoring Calipari’s overtures This only served to raise the chatter on Calipari’s interest and the intensity in which his representatives were pushing Wolfpackers. *
After Barnes and State parted ways, the conversations finally turned to Calipari heading into the weekend at the urging of many people who were assured by “Cal’s people” that Calipari was chomping at the bit for the job. *
You know most of the developments by following our reports here. What you don’t know is how “committed” Calipari indicated that he was to the NC State search committee. From every source with whom we have spoken, Calipari talked the talk and to walked the walk that (paraphrased) “money was not an issue as he was attracted to the sleeping giant at NC State and wanted to compete in the ACC against the best”. *
Unfortunately, Calipari’s destructive wake also includes the carcasses of many prominent and valuable Wolfpack Club members who stuck their neck out for him in the process. *
Confirmation is blurry on a report that a verbal agreement was reached with Calipari during Sunday’s meeting. The plan was for Calipari to visit Raleigh on Monday night (as he did) and at that point he would be presented a formal offer which he indicated that he would accept. Obviously, Calipari had engaged in such detailed negotiations that the offer was able to be drawn. *
We started smelling a rat yesterday afternoon. Here is why — nobody from NC State leaked Calipari’s visit to the media. When Andy Katz reported Calipari was going to visit Raleigh in the middle of Monday afternoon, we started being very concerned. Calipari’s only reason to leak the news (which is what we presume happened) was to keep Memphis’ wheels rolling. *
If what Calipari had been telling NC State was true…then it wasn’t going to matter what Memphis ultimately counter-offered. This is why the leak was concerning. There was a reason for it. Now, we know the reason for it. *
You have to realize, John Calipari initiated contact with NC State. John Calipari pursued NC State. John Calipari verbally committed to NC State. John Calipari lied to everyone. *
Many fans are trying to blame this on Lee Fowler. We don’t think that is fair. The search committee swung for the fences, and lost. It sucks. John Calipari lied, and lied, and lied some more. Maybe you can criticize Fowler for the manner in which the conversations were executed (is - waiting until late in the week, getting caught by the media, etc), but you cannot criticize Fowler for trying. *
Additionally, you can’t criticize any Wolfpackers for getting caught in Calipari’s trap. Where we come from, people don’t behave this way. *
Dave Glenn’s blog has an evening update which includes an interesting tidbit:
A league source with knowledge of the situation told ACCSports.com at 3 p.m. that ACC associate commissioner Fred Barakat, who has been assisting the Wolfpack with its search, sounded “angry” and “upset” when he reported his findings that Memphis and Calipari appeared to be on the verge of a new agreement. The league source said Barakat and “everyone” at State had been extremely optimistic about landing Calipari when the day began" |
4/12/2006 12:03:42 AM |
pbomb All American 660 Posts user info edit post |
fuck him....and we definitely should call his ass out
he just wanted to get more money out of Memphis by scaring them into thinking he was leaving...what an ass
[Edited on April 12, 2006 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .] 4/12/2006 12:06:09 AM |
sm_superstar Veteran 278 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, I liked both the sportsfannation and ESPN post-Calipari articles....
But yeah, I think it was an ASSHOLE's move to make us think he had so much consideration towards the job (flying personally to Raleigh to visit the NC State campus and facilities), and then announce that he was staying at Memphis almost instantaneously after the Memphis raise offer...
For all that said, FUCK CALIPARI! It's time to just accept it and move on Wolfpack, hope for best and keep our heads up... An friend close to mine said... "FREEDOM IS NEVER GIVEN, IT IS WON.." We make our own future, and hopefully Lee Fowler will make the best decision with the resources (and choices) that he has left...
LOCK NOW CarZin !!! I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS SHIT ANYMORE!
Goodbye and goodnight!
[Edited on April 12, 2006 at 12:23 AM. Reason : JOHN CALIPARI IS A BASTARD!] 4/12/2006 12:18:04 AM |
wolfNstein All American 2353 Posts user info edit post |
many people were saying Calipari was a slimeball.... many people didn't believe it.
i think NC State just found out the hard way. 4/12/2006 12:30:25 AM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
I know who we can hire now that we have an extra million dollars...
4/12/2006 12:38:49 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
My favorite part was the group of people that claimed to have had "inside information".
[Edited on April 12, 2006 at 8:39 AM. Reason : P.S. I missed the "press conference [that will be] held this afternoon"] 4/12/2006 8:36:48 AM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
I just looked at conference USA, man I knew they were sad, but they were not on TV much this year so I really wasn't aware of how bad it had gotten......
Central Florida East Carolina Houston Marshall Memphis Rice Southern Methodist Southern Mississippi Texas-El Paso Tulane Tulsa UAB
Damn, that is a terrible conference! 4/12/2006 9:24:31 AM |
CPanther90 Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
apparently he didn't play us as much as we thought he did. memphis got him to stay for only a base salary of $1.3 million with incentives to push it up to a max of $1.7 million. so basically he got a $200,000 pay increase. 4/12/2006 9:26:54 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
fuzzy math 4/12/2006 9:33:45 AM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
the math can be manipulated
i heard herb's deal is not even a million, these contracts include so many sources/income streams/incentives that it is hard to fucking tell
you can bet that our deal was not in "streight cash homie" either, probably 2 million with shoe deal/camp shit/licensing/incentives/etc.
but anyways....conference USA sucks ass, why would you want to stay there???? 4/12/2006 9:44:09 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
These coaches don't give a shit about their conferences (really K, Boeheim, and Roy are the only 3 that come to mind that constantly mention conference loyalty). He is recruiting just fine, has a great returning team, and makes a ton of money.
It's like he isn't going to be able to compete for national championships because he plays in C-USA...
V yea I agree about that.. definitely
[Edited on April 12, 2006 at 9:48 AM. Reason : x] 4/12/2006 9:45:44 AM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
no, i am not saying he should care
just my opinion, from the outside looking in, that conference blows ass, the Big East raped them
i fully believe that Cal has a great situation in Memphis, he is king there, recruits great athletes, and has a fat annuity comin up in about 3 years 4/12/2006 9:47:42 AM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
no doubt, he actually has better chance at national titles from that conference, because with the stacked record he is gonna have in that conference year in and year out, he should end up with a lot of 1,2,3 seeds in the tourney! 4/12/2006 9:48:59 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
factor in the 8.25% sales tax + his retention bonus and they pretty much matched our offer.
either way, you have to be a pretty greasy person to choose a town like memphis over raleigh 4/12/2006 10:02:50 AM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no doubt, he actually has better chance at national titles from that conference, because with the stacked record he is gonna have in that conference year in and year out, he should end up with a lot of 1,2,3 seeds in the tourney!" |
I guess this is how the Mid-Majors will stick it to the MAN after losing all those BCS bowl bids in football.
[Edited on April 12, 2006 at 10:06 AM. Reason : .]4/12/2006 10:05:52 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
Carzin, please trash this so we dont have to look at it...as creator of this thread, please! 4/12/2006 2:16:25 PM |
clayguevara All American 604 Posts user info edit post |
We got Fredo'ed (corleone) that is 4/12/2006 2:24:48 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
we herb'd 4/12/2006 2:28:34 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
i hate to bring this up....and i hope this is false!!...but i found out from a very reliable source in the wolfpack club that we are thinking about offering calipari more money....so this might get interesting this weekend....i know you guys are over calipari...but he might not be gone yet ya'll 4/12/2006 9:33:11 PM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
I really wish we would leave that man alone. 4/12/2006 9:37:08 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
yeah me too man, i dunno if i want him as our coach now...not after what he did 4/12/2006 9:37:53 PM |
moonman All American 8685 Posts user info edit post |
I've been saying for pages he was a shady fucker. 4/12/2006 9:41:17 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
once bitten twice shy
fool me once... 4/12/2006 9:41:25 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
has anyone else heard this at all? 4/12/2006 10:23:59 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
no...go for gillispie 4/12/2006 10:27:39 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
i still wouldn't mind if we kept trying for him, he didn't do anything wrong to us, he liked where he was and he was ok with the amount he will be making 4/12/2006 10:33:59 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
I don't want him now, but if the WPC feels like they wanna keep beating a dead horse, let em. Hopefully they'll just keep this in mind:
Good things about Cal:
1. Fire on the sidelines 2. Wont schedule bullshit cupcakes to pad record 3. Fun to watch playing style
Bad things about Cal:
1. Slimeball 2. Slimeball 3. See 1 & 2 4/12/2006 10:38:03 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
You people make me laff, you were all over his nuts and now that he isn't coming, you all just hose him and act like he was never gonna be a good coach. 4/12/2006 10:52:53 PM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
laff
haha
i laughed 4/12/2006 11:12:17 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
https://soundcloud.com/sportschannel8/sc8-2016-college-hoops-preview-with-matt-jones-and-ben-swain-pt-2
17:30 mark
We were $3.50 from getting Calipari
Lee Fowler strikes again. 11/3/2016 12:47:12 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Came here to share just that
smdh 11/3/2016 12:54:46 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Holy Shit, F Fowler 11/3/2016 1:28:41 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
care to share for those who can't stream at work? 11/3/2016 1:37:56 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
^Calipari visits NC State and loves it and is ready to accept the offer. Fowler took him to get a slice pizza somewhere on campus. Fowler makes Calipari pay for his own pizza. Calipari says right then he decided not to accept the offer. He said if Fowler was that clueless imagine what it would be like to work for him. 11/3/2016 2:52:44 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahahahahahahahahaha 11/3/2016 3:16:02 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
If this happened to any other school, you could say: "You cannot make this up". Alas 11/3/2016 3:20:32 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
That is a truly amazing story 11/3/2016 3:24:01 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Lee Fowler or Trump, who ya got 11/3/2016 3:34:31 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Wait is this a real thing or just a troll job? 11/3/2016 3:55:13 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
I knew fowler was a joke, but my god..... 11/3/2016 4:01:54 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 11/3/2016 4:12:56 PM |
Zel Sa Da Tay 2094 Posts user info edit post |
So does this mean that Calipari is the Loch Ness monster? 11/3/2016 4:34:31 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
If true, that's fucking hilarious. Just goes to show how inept Fowler was.
We could cry about how we missed our chance, but let's be real, if Calipari comes here, we still find some way to fuck it up.
Either Cal's shady recruiting tactics leads the NCAA to investigate us instead of UNC's football program, or Cal uses us to get the deal of deals at Kentucky a couple of years later, or we make it to the Finals and shit the bed, a la Derrick Rose missing free-throws and not fouling Chalmers before he attempts the 3. We are NC State after all. 11/3/2016 5:03:48 PM |
ussjbroli All American 4518 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah, let's not delude ourselves that calipari would not have been straight out the door to Kentucky anyways. So we would have gotten 3 years max
[Edited on November 3, 2016 at 5:12 PM. Reason : .] 11/3/2016 5:12:10 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
I'd trade the unknown of not getting Cal with UNC being in the NCAA mess they are
[Edited on November 3, 2016 at 5:15 PM. Reason : ] 11/3/2016 5:15:17 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
Y'all do realize what sports channel 8 is, right? 11/3/2016 5:22:08 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Who in the fuck is Ben Swain? 11/3/2016 5:23:06 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
It's a parody sports site you dumb fucks. 11/3/2016 6:01:42 PM |