The MSM is about to release a video SUPPOSEDLY of the "Boeing 757" that we are told hit the Pentagon. Obviously I haven't seen the video, but I'm highly suspicious as to it's authenticity. It's probably just as fake as the phony bin Laden tapes the government used. And I heard from someone who has seen it that the video may be grainy and not high quality.

I see this as the establishment panicking because the 9/11 Truth Movement is gaining momentum, and they are trying to do whatever they can to counter it.

5/16/2006 1:01:32 PM

Well at least you're looking at it with an open mind and not discounting the video before you see it because it doesn't fit in with your beliefs.

5/16/2006 1:03:53 PM

^hahaaha....gg

lord knows....salis would never do that....

i havent seen the video yet but i predict a mad rush of "denail" from alex jones and the like. I can say with 100% certainty that they will say its a fake..

[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 1:08 PM. Reason : 666]

5/16/2006 1:06:46 PM

Alex Jones has consistently maintained that he doesn't know for sure exactly what happened at the Pentagon, although he has stated that the evidence does not seem to support a 757 crash. He hasn't talked about the Pentagon much, and has focused on issues where the evidence is more conclusive--such as the controlled demolition of WTC Building 7 and the twin towers.

5/16/2006 1:12:55 PM

whatever....

5/16/2006 1:26:12 PM

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"Alex Jones has consistently maintained that he doesn't know for sure exactly what happened at the Pentagon, although he has stated that the evidence does not seem to support a 757 crash."

hahaha backtracking already

5/16/2006 1:29:26 PM

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"and has focused on issues where the evidence is more conclusive--such as the controlled demolition of WTC Building 7 and the twin towers."

yea real conclusive evidence both of u have presented on that supposed "demolition"

5/16/2006 1:33:48 PM

Let's remind everyone of the last video released by the government and MSM of the "Boeing 757 hitting the Pentagon."

5/16/2006 1:34:48 PM

that gif is so poorly made and put together that any number of frames could have been left out showing what happened. i wouldnt use that as a strong argument.

V i did not know that.

[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 1:41 PM. Reason : V]

5/16/2006 1:37:32 PM

Security cameras are usually not constant framerate... its too "expensive" from a a data standpoint. Could see that last one being a result of that.

5/16/2006 1:37:47 PM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/160506pentagonimages.htm

Quote :

"Release Of Pentagon Images Direct Assault On 9/11 Truth Movement Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | May 16 2006 [...] Before the release of the new frames news networks immediately went on the attack, saying that the images finally put to rest "conspiracy theories" and questions about the official story. [...] The release of these images comes at a time when the 9/11 truth movement is at its most prominent. This is a targeted assault intended to quash questions about 9/11 and discredit the movement. TV news anchors are already uniform in their talking points in using the video images to attack 9/11 skeptics."

5/16/2006 1:44:03 PM

scramble salis....keep scrambling


^more self fullfulling phrophecy...good job guys

[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 1:50 PM. Reason : asdf]

5/16/2006 1:49:40 PM

well well well, it's supposed to be released here http://www.judicialwatch.org, but CONVENIENTLY that site is down

5/16/2006 1:50:35 PM

ohhh....convenient....then how am i watching it foxnews??

5/16/2006 1:51:59 PM

omg foxnews said "conspiracy theorists"

5/16/2006 1:53:07 PM

well...then clearly foxnews really knows the truth about 9/11 and in trying to cover it up, has resorted to smear tactics

5/16/2006 1:54:52 PM

or clarification, my comment was sarcastic

5/16/2006 2:02:35 PM

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"omg foxnews said "conspiracy theorists""

9/11 was a conspiracy any way you look at it. It's just a matter of who you think really conspired to commit the attacks.

The real "wacky conspiracy theory" is the government and MSM fairy tale about 19 boxcutter-wielding Arabs masterminded by an evil genius from a cave attacking us "because they hate our freedom."

The government and MSM are hoping people are too stupid to realize that even their own "official" story is a conspiracy, and have this emotional knee-jerk reaction upon hearing the word "conspiracy theory" and associate that with anyone who dares to question their "official" version.


[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 2:12 PM. Reason : ```````]

5/16/2006 2:11:43 PM

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"9/11 was a conspiracy any way you look at it. "

would you drop this already??...we know you only say this because the conspiracy theory websites started using this line. give it up...good night...how many times have you made that exact post...pathetic



[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 2:16 PM. Reason : 666]

5/16/2006 2:12:51 PM

ONLY DEM WACKO NUTJOB CONSPIRACY THEORISTS BELIEVE 9/11 WAS A CONSPIRACY! IT WASN'T A CONSPIRACY AT ALL. CNN, CBS, NBC, AND THE GOVERNMENT SAID SO. THEY SAYS THAT ANYBODY THAT DISAGREES WITH THEM IS A PARANOID CONSPIRACY THEORIST. SO SHUT UP YOU STUPID CONSPIRACY NUTS! THERE WAS NO CONSPIRACY.

5/16/2006 2:19:01 PM

^haha....thank you....and goodnight

5/16/2006 2:19:37 PM

I have a hard time taking any of these things serious since my cousin watched the plane come in and actually hit the buliding while he was jogging that morning.

I believe him over some internet nerd with Adobe Premiere and some recording equipment.

5/16/2006 2:22:42 PM

OK, WELL, MAYBE THE OFFICIAL STORY IS A CONSPIRACY. BUT HERE'S HOW IT IS. THE OFFICIAL VERSION ESPOUSED BY THE MSM AND GOVERNMENT IS FACT. NO MATTER WHAT. ANYTHING THAT DISAGREES WITH THE OFFICIAL VIEW IS A MERE THEORY. AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THE GOVERNMENT OR MSM VIEW ON AN ISSUE IS A LUNATIC PARANOID NUTJOB WHO PROBABLY NEEDS TO GO TO AN INSANE ASYLUM. SO THE OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY ABOUT THE AAYRABS AND BIN LADEN IS A FACT, AND ANY OTHER CONSPIRACY IS JUST A THEORY.

THE GOVERNMENT AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA LOVES US AND WOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING LIKE THEM CONSPIRACY NUTS IS SAYING. THEY WOULD NEVER LIE. YOU HAVE TO LOVE AND WORSHIP YOUR GOVERNMERNMENT AND OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT MOUTHPIECE MEDIA SOURCES IN ORDER TO BE A GOOD PATRIOTIC AMERICAN.

AND EVEN WHEN THAT GOVERNMENT SPIES ON YOU AND TAKES AWAY YOUR RIGHTS, AND WOULD MURDER WOMEN AND CHILDREN LIKE THEY DID AT WACO. SO WHAT? YOU HAVE TO STILL TRUST THE GOVERNMENT, AND THEY COULD NEVER ATTACK THEIR OWN CITIZENS LIKE ON 9/11. NEVER. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE EVIDENCE SAYS. I TRUST MY GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA REGARDLESS OF THE FACTS.

5/16/2006 2:31:45 PM

y couldnt u have been at waco

5/16/2006 2:32:33 PM

i reiterate......thank you....and goodnight....

yelling and sarcasm will make mommy love you more salis....keep it up

5/16/2006 2:34:21 PM

SO WHAT IF THE GOVERNMENT MURDERED OVER 80 PEOPLE AT WACO, INCLUDING INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN? BIG DEAL. THEY WERE RELIGIOUS NUTS. SO THEY DESERVED IT.

I STILL TRUST THE GOVERNMENT IN SPITE OF THAT. THEY LOVE ME AND ARE PROTECTING ME FROM AL-QUAIDER AND BIN LADEN.

LOOK. WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT DOES, IT'S GOOD. AND EVEN WHEN THEY DO STUFF THAT SEEMS WRONG, IT REALLY ISN'T. THEY'VE GOT A GOOD REASON.

5/16/2006 2:36:25 PM

so ur trolling urself now huh?

5/16/2006 2:37:17 PM

do you have a point?

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"yelling and sarcasm will make mommy love you more salis....keep it up "

thank

you

and

good

night

5/16/2006 2:37:18 PM

Nice

Quote :

"IS"

5/16/2006 2:38:10 PM

Apparantly this new "video" is not too impressive. Just one frame or a few frames of grainy image showing hardly anything. That's what I'm hearing.

No?

5/16/2006 2:45:35 PM

thats correct actually..however it does prove that a plane hit the pentagon

5/16/2006 2:47:37 PM

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"thats correct actually..however it does prove that a plane hit the pentagon"

uh huh...kinda like that video of the fatty bin laden impersonator "proved" that bin Laden was responsible for 9/11?

5/16/2006 2:49:38 PM

No, bin Laden didn't have any motive to carry out the 9/11 attacks.

Its not like he issued a fatwah or anything urging muslims to kill americans.

Keep ignoring evidence, little buddy.

Quote :

"Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans Published in Al-Quds al-'Arabi on Febuary 23, 1998 Statement signed by Sheikh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin; Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of the Jihad Group in Egypt; Abu- Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, a leader of the Islamic Group; Sheikh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan; and Fazlul Rahman, leader of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh ... All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al- Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said "As for the militant struggle, it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life." On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God." This is in addition to the words of Almighty God "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated and oppressed--women and children, whose cry is 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'" We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson."

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm

5/16/2006 2:51:20 PM

HOLY SHIT!!!! DID YOU GUYS SEE THIS VIDEO?! IT PROVES BIN LADEN CARRIED OUT 9/11!

CNN: "Bin Laden on tape: Attacks 'benefited Islam greatly'"
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/ret.bin.laden.videotape/


Look, it's REALLY bin Laden!




SURELY THIS NEW PENTAGON VIDEO WILL PROVE THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS WRONG ONCE AGAIN!!11one

OUR GLORIOUS LEADER BUSH WILL BE VINDICATED!1

5/16/2006 2:54:13 PM

Why don't you have anything to say to the fatwah?

5/16/2006 2:56:09 PM

because it doesn't help his nonsensical argument

he leaves everything out that could harm it

5/16/2006 2:59:49 PM

[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 3:07 PM. Reason : ``]

5/16/2006 3:03:23 PM

No, bin Laden didn't have any motive to carry out the 9/11 attacks.

Its not like he issued a fatwah or anything urging muslims to kill americans.

Keep ignoring evidence, little buddy.

Quote :

"Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans Published in Al-Quds al-'Arabi on Febuary 23, 1998 Statement signed by Sheikh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin; Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of the Jihad Group in Egypt; Abu- Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, a leader of the Islamic Group; Sheikh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan; and Fazlul Rahman, leader of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh ... All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al- Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said "As for the militant struggle, it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life." On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God." This is in addition to the words of Almighty God "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated and oppressed--women and children, whose cry is 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'" We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson."

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm

5/16/2006 3:04:52 PM

thats right salis....this new video conclusively proves that a plane...NOT a missile hit the pentagon...you theory is busted....deal with it

5/16/2006 3:08:07 PM

Salisbury you haven't seen the video pics? Well the FOX crackpots (A term I want to borrow from the 9/11 commission Thompson who appeared today on FOX in calling those that question the official story) are desperate.

They are more like the 5 frames (initially the government denied that they released those) of before, but this time from a different angle and taken by the pentagon security cameras on the parking lot. Now these festering twats on fox, cnn, msnbc tried their best to say there was a image of nose cone. Impossible. Can't even tell, just again manipulative and subjective interpretation to psychologically win over us americans! They are so desperate. It is so funny!!!

Why don't they release the citgo and sheraton video tapes, if employes interviewed in the sheraton were shocked at what they saw, and the employee at the gas station stating that 'within' minutes the FBI confiscated the station's videotapes? Again foreknowledge is for sure.


Moral of the Story today folks: Gov't has LIED to you once again, including the freudian slip out of the new press secretary Tony Snow, who stated to paraphrase 'I don't want to fake a number' (with regards to the troops on the borders). Interesting he used the term 'fake'. LOL.

[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 3:10 PM. Reason : Your government has lied to you!]

5/16/2006 3:09:32 PM

Quote :

"this new video conclusively proves that a plane...NOT a missile hit the pentagon...you theory is busted....deal with it"

5/16/2006 3:10:25 PM

^^ yea ok

nice alias.

[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

5/16/2006 3:11:41 PM

^ a lame comeback. Check out the IP configuration.

Moral of the story: You are being hoodwinked by your government!

5/16/2006 3:13:15 PM

IP configs dont mean shit when u can use a proxy. but nice try.

5/16/2006 3:15:03 PM

Quote :

"Tony Snow, who stated to paraphrase 'I don't want to fake a number' (with regards to the troops on the borders). Interesting he used the term 'fake'."

Yeah, thats some pretty damning evidence.

5/16/2006 3:15:07 PM

Quote :

"Salisbury you haven't seen the video pics?"

No, not yet.

Quote :

"They are more like the 5 frames (initially the government denied that they released those) of before, but this time from a different angle and taken by the pentagon security cameras on the parking lot."

I read that on another message board too.

LMAO

Quote :

"Now these festering twats on fox, cnn, msnbc tried their best to say there was a image of nose cone. Impossible. Can't even tell, just again manipulative and subjective interpretation to psychologically win over us americans! They are so desperate. It is so funny!!!"

I'm sure they'll be talking about this on the nightly "news" at 6:30, and Bob Shieffer and the other blowhards will tell us how this destroys the arguments of those "nutbag conspiracy theorists" who dare to question the government. Should be interesting.

Thanks for the update AFGASN.

5/16/2006 3:18:57 PM

afgasn is a worse conspiracy theorist than salis ...i didnt think that was possible

5/16/2006 3:19:13 PM

Sure, how many times has that come up since my arrival here, along with the terms, alias and noob.

Rather than attacking the content, diversion by simpleton twats such as you is the only rhetorical device that conjures up in that mice of size brain you have.

You guys haven't refuted one thing Salisbury has stated. That is embarrassing.

Do your homework and attack the content in a professional manner. Maybe I will join in more in the discussions.

As of now, if you wish to claim aliases, then you guys are aliases of each other? Where is the logic in that? Grow up dude.

5/16/2006 3:22:50 PM

Quote :

"News networks hyped the video as some kind of hot tip yet when it was played the anchors looked disappointed because it barely shows anything we haven't already seen, a grainy shot spoiled by sun glare of a blurry object and then a fireball"

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/160506pentagonimages.htm

bwahahaha!

5/16/2006 3:27:43 PM

Quote :

"Rather than attacking the content, diversion by simpleton twats such as you is the only rhetorical device that conjures up in that mice of size brain you have."

Well, everyone has attacked the content, sadly, logic doesn't work on people who are obsessed with a single flimsy theory that explains everything.

Quote :

"You guys haven't refuted one thing Salisbury has stated. That is embarrassing."

Please reread the thread. Then read his other threads if you're bored.

He ignores anything and everything that could damage his world view.

^ ahem...

Quote :

"i havent seen the video yet but i predict a mad rush of "denail" from alex jones and the like. I can say with 100% certainty that they will say its a fake.."

[Edited on May 16, 2006 at 3:29 PM. Reason : 666]

5/16/2006 3:28:47 PM