joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
I just got done seeing it in IMAX... it was sold out weeks in advance, i had to reserve a Monday 4pm ticket.
man, it was even awesomer than you can imagine. If you get a chance to see it again, do it in IMAX even if you gotta drive to Charlotte or D.C. to do it.
[Edited on August 5, 2008 at 8:50 PM. Reason : ] 8/5/2008 8:48:24 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only time the voice bothered me was the parts where Batman was talking to Lucious or Alfred in private and still used the batman voice." |
I think the point is that when he is dressed in the suit he is Batman, not just Bruce Wayne in a suit, but an entirely different entity. They're talking to Batman, not Wayne, and that's how Batman talks. That's the way I see it anyway.8/5/2008 8:53:22 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Basically.
Opinions will vary, but I've always thought of Batman as the "real" person. He ceased to be Bruce Wayne the moment he witnessed his parents' murder. He became Batman as a way to cope with all of that grief and rage. The persona of Bruce Wayne is the hollow shell that was left, and he is just something he assumes to throw off suspicions and further support his cause. So in a sense, he really IS two people.
My $0.02 anyway. 8/5/2008 8:58:22 PM |
JS All American 657 Posts user info edit post |
Went to the movie at midnight when it openned, and now I just saw it again..... it was just as good. 8/6/2008 12:09:11 AM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
My gf saw it tonight at the IMAX, she had to sit in the second row. I'm jealous as hell. 8/6/2008 12:21:15 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
I saw it at the Imax tonight second row with some chick that i eventually had sex with 8/6/2008 12:24:48 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
^whoa, me too 8/6/2008 2:19:58 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Shit, I just got her number. I was kind of intimidated by all of the black guys that she was leaving with. 8/6/2008 2:23:16 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
YOU GWOT A NUMBAHHH!!!! 8/6/2008 2:25:47 AM |
Erfdawg All American 875 Posts user info edit post |
This movie confused the fuck out of me and pissed me off. I think I liked Batman Begins better but I'll need the watch TDK a few more times. 8/6/2008 10:31:07 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^ how did this movie possibly confuse you? 8/6/2008 10:33:11 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
^^wat?? 8/6/2008 10:50:15 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i was confused too
i mean, ledger is dead, but he was on my screen???
and morgan freeman was just in an accident, how is he still putting on shows?
fuck this movie 8/6/2008 11:16:03 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
not to mention that whole thing with harvey dent being batman. I thought bruce wayne was batman! at least that's what I gathered from batman begins and the first part of this movie 8/6/2008 11:54:20 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i just laffed a little bit
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 11:55 AM. Reason : ^^] 8/6/2008 11:55:27 AM |
Erfdawg All American 875 Posts user info edit post |
Why I’m pissed: I can’t figure out why they needed to fake Gordon’s death. I was absolutely convinced he died and I was pissed off about it. Then he magically pops back up driving the police wagon. But what is the fucking point to that? Why even show that horrible scene with his wife and kids hearing the news if it wasn’t genuine? To fuck with the audience? If so it’s a cheap move. He tells his wife he had to do it to protect them but a threat to him or his family is never really established in the film. Maybe you could argue that Batman needed someone he could trust to drive the police wagon. But there was another office in the back with Dent who could have just as easily blown his head off. And that brings me to…
Why I’m confused: I think Bruce Wayne might be mildly retarded. All this time is spent in both movies establishing how corrupt everything is. The police are corrupt. The DA’s office is corrupt. Fucking Taco Bell is corrupt. If you ordered a 7-layer you’d only get 6 because the mob is skimming off the top. So what does the possibly mildly retarded Batman do with the Joker? He saves his life and lets the SWAT team capture him! The entire infrastructure of the city is corrupt and yet he hands the Joker right over to them. If he can't trust anyone then why the fuck does he keep trusting everyone?
If there are plot points that I missed that could clear this up please tell me.
Other items: Maggie Gyllenhaal got progressively uglier as the film moved along. I don’t think I could handle that face on an IMAX screen. There is no way the Joker could so easily kill Spawn. 8/6/2008 1:21:48 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
batman handed the joker over to gordon... gordon and his close group of police officers are not corrupt...
gordon is the only good cop (and his close group) left in the city...
also, batman's rule is that he can't kill. If he kills, it goes against his training with Al ghoul. It makes him just as evil as the villains he pursues... that's the one thing that separates him from the rest.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 1:30 PM. Reason : yesa] 8/6/2008 1:29:27 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
there weren't any SWAT team members who were ever accused of corruption, just cops 8/6/2008 1:29:46 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
^^^in case you missed it, batman's whole thing is to not kill people, incl villains.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 1:31 PM. Reason : shtick? ] 8/6/2008 1:30:24 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
didnt you hear the joker talking about Batmans "rules"
he cant kill anyone, he just brings them to justice. 8/6/2008 1:31:04 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Uh yeah, I thought it was generally known for like the past 50 years that Batman's one rule is that he will never intentionally kill someone, regardless of what they have done. 8/6/2008 1:35:07 PM |
Erfdawg All American 875 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not buying any of these responses. Keep trying. 8/6/2008 1:36:19 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
w t f
moron 8/6/2008 1:38:03 PM |
Erfdawg All American 875 Posts user info edit post |
se7entythree might also be retarded. But not mildly. I'm talking full-on graham cracker and juice box retarded. 8/6/2008 1:42:34 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He tells his wife he had to do it to protect them but a threat to him or his family is never really established in the film." |
The Joker killed 2 of the people who were going after the mob (Commissioner Loeb and the judge), and tried to kill 2 more (Dent and the mayor). As head of the Major Crimes Unit and a likely candidate to replace Loeb, it was safe to assume that Gordon would become a target as well.8/6/2008 1:44:03 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
i love juice boxes, esp apple, fruit punch, and ecto cooler...not much of a fan of graham crackers though. i'm more of a handi snack person. 8/6/2008 1:49:50 PM |
Erfdawg All American 875 Posts user info edit post |
^^That's a good point. But I still don't feel that enough direct threat to Gordon was there to warrant him torturing his wife and kids like that. If perhaps his DNA had been on one of the Joker's cards then I would have bought it.
se7entythree sucks.
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ^^]
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM. Reason : i too may be retarded.]
[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 2:00 PM. Reason : though not as retarded as se7entythree.] 8/6/2008 1:51:45 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Here's something I don't understand: When Joker dials the bomb in that guy's stomach he's standing in a room filled with policemen with guns pointed at him. After the bomb explodes he's standing in the same spot but the policemen are gone. What happened to the guys in that room? 8/6/2008 2:13:06 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe he ducked at the last second or used his hostage to shield him from the blast. 8/6/2008 2:15:29 PM |
Erfdawg All American 875 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah the fact that those cops (which may or may not have been corrupt, though some may have been SWAT members) sat there staring at the guys bloated stomach without thinking it might be dangerous until the last second was fucking stupid.
se7entythree sucks. 8/6/2008 2:20:27 PM |
whotboy All American 740 Posts user info edit post |
I thought it was the sort of thing like where the joker knew the blast was coming so he didn't duck or run or anything 8/6/2008 10:58:38 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
hehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59jDo00pnaw 8/6/2008 11:31:59 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
the thing that bothered me most, was when the entire GPD was out in full dress, for the ceremony re: the old Commissioner's death.
then the half-dozen goons who started shooting the mayor, and battalions of full dress policemen squealed like little girls and scattered in every direction.
now that was just bullshit.
if the rest of the movie wasn't so goddamned badass, i woulda just ... i woulda .... well, okay, i woulda just sat there, but i'da been thinking mean thoughts towards the scriptwriter.
overall, they really made the police pretty pathetic. 8/6/2008 11:43:19 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i thought that part was pretty realistic 8/7/2008 7:41:41 AM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
yea thats how i would imagine all police officers to act 8/7/2008 12:03:14 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
If shots are being fired and you have no idea where they are coming from you're going to run for cover, I don't care if you're a freaking navy seal. It's the only reasonable thing to do. 8/7/2008 12:47:46 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
SHOT DOWN 8/7/2008 1:52:48 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^^, ^^^, ^^^
bullshit. 8/7/2008 2:10:05 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
you're right, they should have pulled their guns out and started shooting wildly in the air. 8/7/2008 2:12:45 PM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
I can't remember exactly when he does it, but when the joker is picked up by the guys in the car in the beginning of the movie does he put his mask on before they get there or after he gets in the car? for some reason I was thinking he did it after he gets in the car, in which case why don't the guys wonder why he has crazy makeup on? 8/7/2008 2:20:28 PM |
davidkunttu All American 2490 Posts user info edit post |
I believe it shows him standing on a street corner from behind and as the van pulls up he puts the mask on. I don't know if we're supposed to assume it's the Joker or not. 8/7/2008 2:27:26 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
^^ he definitely does it before he gets in the car 8/7/2008 2:40:56 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
he (it is definitely the joker by the mask he is holding) is facing the opposite direction with his head down, and puts on the mask as the van is pulling up behind/beside him and before they could ever see his face.
[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 2:57 PM. Reason : ] 8/7/2008 2:56:32 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
yup 8/7/2008 3:01:01 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i just looked and he puts it on as he is walking towards the van 8/7/2008 5:01:11 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
How about the entire movie.
http://movietvonline.com/video/19160/The-Dark-Knight-2008.html 8/7/2008 5:42:12 PM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
how can they get away with that? 8/7/2008 8:01:35 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Watched the end dialogue between batman and the joker,
that chicks death,
the beginning,
fuck those are good scenes 8/7/2008 8:07:24 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
several things in this movie could almost be the plots for movies on their own.
the boats and the bank for example. 8/7/2008 8:16:55 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
The end scene with dent is a good scene. Gordons acting is very good. But it comes off as meh because it came after than crazy scene with the Joker the ferries and all that. 8/7/2008 8:20:16 PM |