LOL THERE HE IS!

5/13/2009 9:40:36 PM

OMF!

5/13/2009 9:40:44 PM

i can't even begin to understand wtf is going on, and that's AWESOME

5/13/2009 9:50:12 PM

I dont get a jolt when someone dies on this show - they always come back

5/13/2009 10:47:31 PM

nah, i doubt juliet will be back. elizabeth mitchell is starring on a new ABC series in the fall. but it was pretty sad to see her go

5/13/2009 10:49:16 PM

whoa

5/13/2009 10:52:50 PM

HATE!

5/13/2009 10:59:37 PM

well then

5/13/2009 11:00:16 PM

of course. at least this is the last season they can pull that crap

5/13/2009 11:00:48 PM

i am so confused now. also, can anyone speak latin?

5/13/2009 11:01:54 PM

FUCK!

I fell asleep with 10 minutes to go in the finale.

5/13/2009 11:04:58 PM

For such a great show 4 out of the 5 season finales have been a steaming pile of crap.

This is the equivalent of spending 2 months with Link trying to save Zelda and having Zelda being a cigar smoking Rosie O'donell.

Maybe I'll read up some more about it on the internet, but this is mega dumb. The only reason I'm watching season 6 is because I've watched the first 5.

5/13/2009 11:13:55 PM

Dude who killed Jacob

Jacob

{CLOUD}

*

5/13/2009 11:19:31 PM

great episode, until that last minute or two. I'm sorry but the explosion doesn't really give me anything to look forward to, however, double Lockes is interesting. But, they should've introduced that idea 10 minutes earlier and expanded on it just enough to get me REALLY interested.

Yes, I'll be watching every episode of the last season, I was just disappointed with the way it ended. Also, is Sayid dead? Did Chang lose his arm?

And it took me a while to recognize Jacob but he was Rita's husband in Dexter, probably in other shit too but I haven't seen it if that's the case.

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:35 PM. Reason : .]

5/13/2009 11:34:23 PM

am I the only one who liked the season finale?

As soon as it started and we were introduced to Jacob, and some guy that obviously hated him, way back in the day I thought to myself, this is going to be the beginning of the end... what starts explaining everything.

And then the guy finds his "loophole" to kill Jacob....
who knows where it goes from now, I'm expecting things to wrap up pretty quick though.

And getting to see the (maybe) black rock floating in the background? I think Richard arrives on that boat...

Anyone else have to sit through girls crying at the end?

5/13/2009 11:35:41 PM

didn't watch with any girls but the opening scene was probably the best of the entire episode. It's easy for them to say 'oh yeah Jacob was here when [insert character changing event here] happened', didn't they do that shit with those random 2 characters that died from spiders or whatever the hell?

5/13/2009 11:37:29 PM

a better ending would be vincent waking up and the whole previous 5 seasons being a dream.

5/13/2009 11:38:18 PM

Where did Bernard and Rose come from? How were they back in the past? I can't for the life of me figure that out.

5/13/2009 11:39:04 PM

I'm hoping they don't screw this up and keep it as they've had the entire season with the "whatever happened, happened."

5/13/2009 11:40:01 PM

So when Locke and Ben went to the cabin the very first time, was it actually Jacob we heard or the other guy? Was the bad guy the one trapped by the ash circle? And I guess this might lead us to think that Christian was actually the bad dude reincarnated too?

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:40 PM. Reason : err]

5/13/2009 11:40:09 PM

don't know how many shows are left but we gots some explaining to do

5/13/2009 11:43:15 PM

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"Where did Bernard and Rose come from? How were they back in the past? I can't for the life of me figure that out."

they were part of the initial group at the end of last season that skipped back. Then they got separated from the rest of the group in the woods. Remember when Sawyer asked them "didn't you hear me say 'meet at the creek'?"


^ 17 episodes next season. Plenty of time to wrap things up, depending on where the story goes and how they pace it. But once they start explaining things, it's not like it takes too long to get most of the explanations out of the way.

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:46 PM. Reason : .]

5/13/2009 11:43:31 PM

For some reason I seem to recall one of the dharma initiation videos with Change talking with his arm in a sling. Are my memories mistaken?

5/13/2009 11:43:49 PM

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"Where did Bernard and Rose come from? How were they back in the past? I can't for the life of me figure that out."

nm, looks like agentlion covered this.

My question, who is "they" that Jacob is talking about when he says "They're coming."

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:45 PM. Reason : d]

5/13/2009 11:44:23 PM

the whole rose/bernard/vincent thing was forced trash

why anyone really cares about that is beyond me

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:46 PM. Reason : "oh...HERE they are! Hiding in the jungle! Yay!"]

5/13/2009 11:45:15 PM

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"My question, who is "they" that Jacob is talking about when he says "They're coming.""

I assume the Shadow of the Statue people, or whatever they're called

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"the whole rose/bernard/vincent thing was forced trash why anyone really cares about that is beyond me"

that's true that it was unnecessary filler, but it's just one more thing to check of the list of "what happened to ___". If they never mentioned Rose/Bernard again, then that would be a lingering question, albeit a small, uninteresting one. But now that it's done, we don't have to go back to them probably until the end when everyone jumps back to the future or they are reunited or whatever happens.

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/13/2009 11:47:45 PM

Well I presume Rose and Bernard will be the "Adam and Eve" couple that they found near the caves in season 1.

Which at this point, is the only thing that even remotely strings together the "we had all this shit planned from the beginning" theory.

5/13/2009 11:47:55 PM

ben stabs like a girl

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"So when Locke and Ben went to the cabin the very first time, was it actually Jacob we heard or the other guy? Was the bad guy the one trapped by the ash circle? And I guess this might lead us to think that Christian was actually the bad dude reincarnated too?"

but yea i guess the other guy is the smoke monster somehow?

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:50 PM. Reason : a]

5/13/2009 11:49:16 PM

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"ben stabs like a girl"

yeah, thought the same thing. He started stabbing, and I was like "really? that's how you're gonna kill a guy? Come on - put your back into it! Thrust with the shoulder, not the wrist!"

5/13/2009 11:50:52 PM

I'm thinking they = black rock crew. and somehow richard, the dude from choke and the other chick are all either from or descendants of the black rock crew, who wants to, for some reason, kill jacob and the other guy from the first scene, but the other guy from the first scene obviously has his own motives to kill jacob, which will be explained in the next season (I hope).

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:53 PM. Reason : and yes the stabbing was terrible.]

5/13/2009 11:53:28 PM

the way he stabbed, there is no way he got past the sternum/ribs



^i would have guessed they only wanted to kill the other guy, not jacob

not sure though

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:55 PM. Reason : and yes, the plothole i am focusing on is the killing power of ben's stab. i've made my choice.]

5/13/2009 11:53:37 PM

oh, right....

Quote :

" So Jacob and Man #2 have always been on-Island, and have been unable to kill each other - much like the "rules" that seem to exist between Ben and Widmore. Jacob has been visiting our Survivors throughout their lives, perhaps even "pushing them" along their way to ensure they end up on-Island. But why? It seems that the net result of our Survivors getting on-Island thus far is Jacob dying (in the grand scheme of things). Heck, he seemed to bring Locke back to life after he was pushed out of the window by his father (PS - how many of the flashback scenes were you able to "call" beforehand? It's sad how easily I recognize things like background shots from two seasons ago... ) and that definitely eventually lead to Man #2 impersonating him and killing him. Bad move, Jacob. I'm also guessing that Man #2 was actually the guy we saw in the Cabin (since as I noted in my episode preview, he kinda looked like him), but "escaped" thanks to the gap in the ash around the Cabin. He was then able to impersonate John Locke to manipulate Ben and find a loophole to kill Jacob. So Man #2 is the "bad guy" and Jacob was the "good guy"... but unfortunately now he's dead."

http://lost-and-gone-forever.blogspot.com/2009/05/incident-instant-reactions.html

5/13/2009 11:53:49 PM

[old]

scmitty said that already

5/13/2009 11:56:34 PM

i like how you can live for over 150 years and just die from being stabbed

5/13/2009 11:59:42 PM

I'm sure there's a story behind the knife that was used to kill him

and did anybody see my question about Chang's arm in a sling in one of the Dharma videos?

5/14/2009 12:01:08 AM

^^maybe he does jazzercise?


^a story behind the knife? i disagree, but i guess we'll see

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 12:01 AM. Reason : a]

^you asked a question in one of the dharma videos about chang? i dont remember seeing you in any dharma videos...wait a minute, who are you????

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 12:02 AM. Reason : ]

5/14/2009 12:01:14 AM

well we saw how his arm got messed up, which means he went on to make a video after the bomb went off?

5/14/2009 12:02:09 AM

Can anyone summarize the beginning with Jacob and the guy talking about the ship? Something along the lines of "You bring them here, they get corrupted, and we start over"?

Also, from some other sites, Richard's translation to "What lies in the shadow of the statue?" is "He who will save us all"

5/14/2009 12:02:43 AM

^that supports what i said about the ileana crew only wanting the kill "guy 2" or at least try to protect jacob

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"well we saw how his arm got messed up, which means he went on to make a video after the bomb went off?"

(are you responding to yourself here? i'll pretend you arent and answer)

the video was made after the incident, he mentions the incident more than once, right? as to whether the bomb helps or hurts, always happened or created a new timeline, etc etc, we will have to wati and see i guess


^somebody (jacob) making rope and sewing a tapestry, goes out and fries up a fish, stares at boat off in the distance, guy 2: how did they find the island?, jacob: ask them, guy 2: but i already know, you brought them (what kind of jerk asks a question he knows the answer to?), guy 2: they always bring chaos and it always ends badly, jacob: there is only one end, everything before is progress, guy 2: you have any idea how much i want to kill you?

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 12:08 AM. Reason : a]

5/14/2009 12:05:51 AM

So is it assumed that Jacob = God and Black shirt guy/smoke monster = Devil?

5/14/2009 12:08:36 AM

[no]

5/14/2009 12:10:50 AM

ok. well I think that's my assumption.

5/14/2009 12:11:15 AM

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"a better ending would be vincent waking up and the whole previous 5 seasons being a dream."

I think they are saving that for next season

5/14/2009 12:11:52 AM

it does all go back to the whole backgammon concept from season 1 with Locke talking to Walt. Just a game between two players.

5/14/2009 12:14:20 AM

This whole thing is starting to resemble the Matrix to me.

5/14/2009 12:17:02 AM

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"17 episodes next season. Plenty of time to wrap things up, depending on where the story goes and how they pace it. But once they start explaining things, it's not like it takes too long to get most of the explanations out of the way."

I don't know. There are A LOT of unanswered questions:
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Unanswered_questions


So I don't get what the "soul eating" revelation is that Michael Emerson (Ben) was talking about in that interview. btw, what did Jacob mean when Ben asked him "What about me?" and Jacob said "What about you?" and Ben looked really confused?

Anyway, so far the only thing I can think of as a plausible explanation for the Locke imposter is the Smoke Monster. We already know that it can read people's memories and it can imitate the way people look. Additionally, the psuedo-Locke only showed up once the people were on the island, so assuming the Smoke Monster can't leave the island it could only show up when they crash on the island.

5/14/2009 12:24:07 AM

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"I don't know. There are A LOT of unanswered questions:"

Yeah, and the writers know this, but to paraphrase their own words, some of the unanswered questions just really aren't that important.

Quote :

"Alex: One mystery that you said a month ago, in a Sky One interview, you were not going to show us is basically Libby's backstory, yet two seasons ago you basically said there was one significant missing piece from her story which is how she got from Desmond to the mental institution, and you also added that to know that answer, you had to show her story through another character's flashback. So, now that you've said that her story is done on the show, can you now tell us her missing piece and which character would you have told it through? Carlton: Uhh, you know, again, these are not questions that we are going to answer. I think the point we were trying to make with the Libby story is that everything is graded in terms of importance for us, and, as we are doing the last season of the show, it's not going to be sort of a didactic, you know, here's a list of a thousand questions that we're going to answer. That would not make for a very entertaining show. We are focusing on what we consider to be the significant questions, and mysteries, and character relationships. That's the story that we're gonna tell. I think that the reference to Libby was more illustrative of the fact that I think, we accept the fact that in the end of the day there will, probably, you could ask a spectrum of a thousand different fans “Well what question did you not get answered?” and there might be a thousand different answers, but we are focusing on what we consider to be the main questions of the show and the main narritive. It's impossible to tie up every loose end, and we don't really consider, honestly, Libby's story is incredibly tangential to the principle action on the show. For us, the focus of the final season really has to be on the main characters and what would generally be acknowledged as the most significant mysteries."

from: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lostpedia_Interview:Carlton_Cuse_%26_Damon_Lindelof

5/14/2009 12:28:48 AM

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"btw, what did Jacob mean when Ben asked him "What about me?" and Jacob said "What about you?" and Ben looked really confused?"

"what about you?" = "what makes you so special?"

5/14/2009 12:32:03 AM

^^I think that explanation is a copout.

As the show was moving along, the writers threw in holes that they could answer if they ran out of things for the future shows

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM. Reason : rewt]

5/14/2009 12:35:08 AM

I think, just like "gods" they could influence people but in the end, like Jacob said, "you have a choice"

when Jacob realizes Ben made up his mind he knew it was over for him... which is why he didn't even try to defend himself.

5/14/2009 12:36:54 AM