TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Sam Hurd is probably the only WR out there crazier than Marshall
actually, Sam Hurd is just a retard, Marshall is the most batshit WR in the league] 1/29/2012 9:57:48 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
boggles my mind how much he sails passes, hasn't improved in it really at all 1/29/2012 9:59:06 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Not encouraging to see, but if there's a silver lining, it's that Cam is seeing he's not "there" yet. He's obviously nowhere near the Rodgers, Brees, Rivers level, and that's gonna eat him up.
Hopefully he busts his ass this offseason, works on his footwork and accuracy, and doesn't get booed at next year's Pro Bowl. 1/29/2012 10:02:36 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't care at all about this game.
The whole NFC side clearly doesn't give a shit and it includes Cam. I can't really fault them for it since the game doesn't matter. The AFC has stepped it up big time on D and in the running game.
[Edited on January 29, 2012 at 10:19 PM. Reason : ] 1/29/2012 10:18:52 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Hurts to say, but it looks like Dalton is dominating Cam Newton so far 1/29/2012 10:22:11 PM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
The winning players get $25k each. Cam's blowing it for the NFC. 1/29/2012 10:24:37 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
they're booing the shit out of Cam
1/29/2012 10:26:29 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Either the saints linemen don't deserve to be there, or they are letting the defense through because a division rival is back there. 1/29/2012 10:27:47 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
If this game is any indication, Rob Chudzinski is a miracle worker. 1/29/2012 10:28:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
^^Jahri and Carl are beast, but they're not trying cause its the Pro Bowl 1/29/2012 10:30:43 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Haha yeah, it does look like the Saints linemen aren't blocking at all
Couldn't see who the receiver was on that last pick 1/29/2012 10:31:08 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
people acting as if the pro bowl is a real game ITT 1/29/2012 10:31:12 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_peyton_manning_colts_neck_surgery_jim_irsay013012
"sources" doubtful Manning will play again 1/30/2012 11:04:52 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
If he doesn't play again I'm sure a team somewhere will pay him good money to be a QB coach. 1/31/2012 1:13:54 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
he's too good at what he does (or did) to be a qb coach
it's nearly impossible for people that talented to coach players that aren't as talented/have the same natural ability that they do 1/31/2012 1:18:33 AM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently Luck is the 2nd coming of Jesus, so Manning can totally coach him. 1/31/2012 1:19:44 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^^several great athletes have gone on to be great coaches, and I believe Manning has the right kind of attitude and patience to work with younger QBs. 1/31/2012 1:24:25 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
The real story here is that we should all go to Rob Lowe for our breaking sports info from now on 1/31/2012 1:37:02 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I believe Manning has the right kind of attitude and patience to work with younger QBs." |
Lets start a list of second string quarterbacks during Peyton Manning's tenure that have gone on to become average starters in the NFL.
1)
[Edited on January 31, 2012 at 1:51 AM. Reason : .]1/31/2012 1:50:59 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^Because so many of them got significant playing time for another team to want to take a shot...
What would Matt Cassel be right now if Brady hadn't been hurt in 2008? 1/31/2012 2:04:54 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Exhibit A on why the Giants will win: NY will be able to slow down Brady's no hurry attack better than any other team has been able to
1/31/2012 12:28:41 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "several great athletes have gone on to be great coaches, and I believe Manning has the right kind of attitude and patience to work with younger QBs." |
name one
and I haven't even brought up the money aspect of it1/31/2012 12:55:23 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
i bet he's going to say Mike Singletary
obviously the answer is Kevin Greene 1/31/2012 1:10:11 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Its harder for great players to become coaches, because they can't understand why everyone isn't as good as they were. Average players like John Harbaugh and Phil Jackson saw the game differently, and know how to pass that info along. 1/31/2012 1:53:18 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Bill Russell 1/31/2012 2:00:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Bill Russell was only a good coach when he had Bill Russell playing for him 1/31/2012 2:21:40 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Bill Russell was also a bigger asshole than John Rocker. He would get torn apart in the Internet era. 1/31/2012 2:22:37 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
Ditka 1/31/2012 3:34:39 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
Sidney Lowe 1/31/2012 4:11:36 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Ditka wasn't a transcendent player like Manning is
he was also a former TE coaching the all-time greatest defense
not quite like one of the greatest QB's ever being a QB coach 1/31/2012 5:46:51 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Ditka was the first TE ever inducted into the HoF. 1/31/2012 5:55:13 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
that doesn't make him transcendent 1/31/2012 5:56:22 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
This is some hardcore goalpost shifting here. You wanted us to name one great athlete that made a good coach.
I think making the hall of fame at a position that receives very little HoF love counts as a great athlete. 1/31/2012 6:04:31 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Ditka is a perfect answer.
Deal with it. 1/31/2012 6:07:22 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Jim Harbaugh Tony Dungy Herm Edwards
while not GREAT like Ditka, still solid answers.
Ditka is the obvious answer here.
[Edited on January 31, 2012 at 6:12 PM. Reason : d] 1/31/2012 6:11:06 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is some hardcore goalpost shifting here. You wanted us to name one great athlete that made a good coach.
I think making the hall of fame at a position that receives very little HoF love counts as a great athlete." |
the original argument was about Peyton Manning becoming a QB coach
and you have posted nothing addressing this:
Quote : | "Ditka wasn't a transcendent player like Manning is
he was also a former TE coaching the all-time greatest defense
not quite like one of the greatest QB's ever being a QB coach" |
the two situations aren't analogous1/31/2012 6:32:22 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "several great athletes have gone on to be great coaches" |
Quote : | "Ditka wasn't a transcendent player like Manning is" |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
Quote : | "Moving the goalposts, also known as raising the bar, is an informal logically fallacious argument in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded." |
[Edited on January 31, 2012 at 6:38 PM. Reason : ]1/31/2012 6:36:44 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the original argument was about Peyton Manning becoming a QB coach" |
1/31/2012 6:39:53 PM |
InsultMaster Suspended 1310 Posts user info edit post |
phil jackson would be a good example 1/31/2012 6:41:54 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I can't tell what you're arguing exactly. Why specifically doesn't Ditka work as an example of a great player becoming a great coach? 1/31/2012 7:12:48 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Yogi Berra, hands down.
Quote : | "Berra was one of only four players to be named the Most Valuable Player of the American League three times and is one of only six managers to lead both American and National League teams to the World Series. As a player, coach, or manager, Berra appeared in 21 World Series. He was elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1972." |
1/31/2012 8:35:39 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Sidney Rochell Lowe 1/31/2012 8:42:46 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
This goalposts jargon is new to me, but I really like it. I'm going to do this all the time now to avoid admitting I'm wrong. It's a beautiful thing. 1/31/2012 8:49:29 PM |
InsultMaster Suspended 1310 Posts user info edit post |
so is tom brady really talked about as one of the best of all time? mcnabb says he thinks he is. idk i mean i can't say he isn't. but i don't feel like he is. 2/1/2012 10:53:57 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
it isn't even debatable
yes, he's an all time great
with a win on Sunday, he is in the discussion as the greatest of all time 2/1/2012 11:15:54 PM |
InsultMaster Suspended 1310 Posts user info edit post |
oh thats what i meant. greatest of all time. mcnabb said greatest of all time. thats what the headline said 2/1/2012 11:17:56 PM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
14th all time in yards 5th in TD passes 2-time Super Bowl MVP 2-time league MVP one of two QBs to take their team to 5 super bowls (Elway is the other)
[Edited on February 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM. Reason : stats] 2/1/2012 11:23:26 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
If he wins sunday he'll be up there with Terry Bradshaw 2/1/2012 11:23:29 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
hilarious 2/1/2012 11:29:26 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
/season 2/6/2012 12:37:13 AM |