4 good videos related to the coming police state:

Alex Jones' 9-11: THE ROAD TO TYRANNY:

----->http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/the_road_to_tyranny__34kbps_.rm<----

Alex Jones' The Masters of Terror:

----->http://www.prisonplanet.com/120603mastersofterror.html<----

Alex Jones: Death of America:

---->http://www.prisonplanet.com/120603deathofamerica.html<----

Alex Jones: Homeland Security Dictatorship:

---->http://www.prisonplanet.com/120603homelandsecurity.html<----


[Edited on April 1, 2004 at 3:46 PM. Reason : ..]

4/1/2004 3:36:57 PM

When you post the videos in a format that will not damage my computer, I will watch them. It's that simple. All you have to do is reformat the video. That's it.

4/1/2004 4:40:50 PM

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face
of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the
government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose
what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt
government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do
nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people
do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not
designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse
not to think at all."

--Michael Rivero

4/1/2004 10:24:21 PM

"As long as people are marginalized and distracted [they] have no way
to organize or articulate their sentiments, or even know that others have
these sentiments. People assume that they are the only people with a
crazy idea in their heads. They never hear it from anywhere else. Nobody's
supposed to think that. ... Since there's no way to get together with
other people who share or reinforce that view and help you articulate it,
you feel like an oddity, an oddball. So you just stay on the side and you
don't pay any attention to what's going on. You look at something else,
like the Superbowl."

--Noam Chomsky, American linguist and US media and foreign policy critic

4/1/2004 10:45:40 PM

Concentration Camps in Okanagon County, Washington?

source: http://www.kxly.com/common/getStory.asp?id=26857

quote:

"Concentration Camps in Okanagon County?

KXLY News
February 27 2003

Okanogan County Commissioner Dave Schulz says he's convinced his county is
a designated home for a "concentration camp'' in case of civil unrest. Schulz
says he has copies of documents, although he hasn't been able to confirm the
rumor.

Federal officials say they have no idea where the commissioner got the notion
of civilian detention camps.

A Federal Emergency Management Agency spokeswoman says it sounds like an
urban legend and a Pentagon spokesman says he's not aware of any planned
camps in Okanogan County or elsewhere.

Rumors of planned U.S. detention facilities appear on dozens of Web sites.

Schulz says he thinks the plan has been written in the event of a national
emergency where martial law is necessary, and hopes it never becomes
necessary."

[Edited on April 5, 2004 at 3:38 PM. Reason : ..]

4/5/2004 3:32:42 PM

Quote :

"Rumors of planned U.S. detention facilities appear on dozens of Web sites."

Quote :

"rumor: A piece of unsubstantiated, unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth."

ever hear of the game "telephone" played when you are a kid? the message at the end is totally different then the message at the beginning because the kids hear what they want to hear and change it. that is the case here; so sorry, try again.

4/5/2004 6:13:25 PM

source: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

quote:

"There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready
to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards,
but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency
Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of
illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and
detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be
closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be
implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot
is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly
takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the
executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The
Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of
the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the
detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can
house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just
outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility
and can hold approximately 2 million people."

[Edited on April 5, 2004 at 11:17 PM. Reason : ..]

4/5/2004 11:17:05 PM

One of the best films available on concentration camps in America is the film
American Gulag: Concentration Camps in America by Texe Marrs.

More on the film here: http://www.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/newamgulconc.html

quote:

"Concentration camps in America? Feds set to toss millions of innocent Americans
into gruesome factories of torture and death?… Could it be? Sounds preposterous.
Yet…in this video, Texe Marrs marshals overwhelming evidence so convincing it
boggles the mind.

WITH YOUR OWN EYES, EXAMINE THE EVIDENCE

-Congressman Jack Brooks, angering Lt. Col. Oliver North and cronies by exposing
the existence of top secret FEMA plan, Rex 84, a scheme to roundup American
dissidents into camps and suspend the Constitution.

-The forcible incarceration of innocent Japanese-Americans by socialist President
Franklin D. Roosevelt in "internment camps"…and the brutal treatment resisters
received.

-Railroad cars, complete with chains and shackles, designed to transport victims
to camps—discovered in the U.S.A.

-Sightings of actual concentration camps inside the U.S.A., with guard towers
and crematoria, prepared for a signal from the elite to begin their heinous operations.

-The U.S. Air Force manual (Garden Plot, Plan 55-2) outlining the operations of
camps to imprison civilians.

-"Operation Cablesplicer"—the secret plan to identify and target resisters to the
New World Order and arrest and incarcerate these men and women when the
order is given.

-Dozens of former U.S. military installations in over 28 states converted to federal
prisons and to "internment camps"—waiting for innocent citizens who refuse to
go along with the fed’s plot to suspend the constitution’s Bill of Rights."

[Edited on April 5, 2004 at 11:33 PM. Reason : ..]

4/5/2004 11:33:00 PM

U.S. House Representative Henry Gonzales (D, Texas) admits plans to use
detention camps in America

source: http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/archive/government/camp9-97.html

quote:

"In a revealing admission the Director of Resource Management for the U.S.
Army confirmed the validity of a memorandum relating to the establishment
of a civilian inmate labor program under development by the Department of
the Army. The document states, "Enclosed for your review and comment is
the draft Army regulation on civilian inmate labor utilization" and the procedure
to "establish civilian prison camps on installations." Cherith Chronicle, June 1997.

Civilian internment camps or prison camps, more commonly known as
concentration camps, have been the subject of much rumor and speculation
during the past few years in America. Several publications have devoted space
to the topic and many talk radio programs have dealt with the issue.

However, Congressman Henry Gonzales (D, Texas) clarified the question of
the existence of civilian detention camps. In an interview the congressman
stated, "the truth is yes - you do have these stand by provisions, and the
plans are here...whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism...evoke
the military and arrest Americans and put them in detention camps.""

4/6/2004 10:21:30 AM

New video game overtly promotes a "New World Order". The title of the game is "New
World Order":

source: http://www.gamespot.com/company/termitegames.html

Here is the description of the game from its own website:

quote:

"You are a rookie member of the Global Assault Team with only one mission: show
terrorists it is time to set a New World Order and restore freedom."

4/6/2004 9:50:09 PM

New video game overtly promotes a "alien existence coverup". The title of the game is "Halo"

source: http://www.strykr.com/storyline.htm

Here is the description of the game from its own website:

quote:
"The year is 2552. Planet Earth still exist, but overpopulation has forced many of her former residents to colonize other worlds. Faster-than-light travel is now a reality, and Earth's unified government through the United Nations Space Command, has put it's full weight behind the colonization effort. Millions of humans now live on habitable planets in other solar systems. A keystone of humanity's colonization efforts is the planet Reach, an interstellar naval yard that builds colony ships for civilians and warships for the UNSC's armed forces. Conveniently close to Earth, Reach is also a hub of scientific and military activity."


- o shit everyone, the government is keeping the existence of space colonies and aliens from us. must be a giant conspiracy!! IMO, you're a fucking moron salisburyboy. you have sank so low as to use video games as credible sources? lololol get a life -

4/6/2004 10:14:42 PM

OMFG, video games have been taken over by t3h illuminati!!!!!11!1!!one.1

4/6/2004 10:26:40 PM

New tracker chip made by a Carlyle group subsidiary resembles a swastika:



source: http://www.infowars.com/print/bb/carlylematrics.htm

quote:

"Carlyle Group Subsidiary Named "MATRICS" is Brimming with NSA and CIA
Operatives and pushing a Swastika-Shaped Tracker Chip."

...see the original image on Matric's website at:
http://www.matrics.com/images/lvl2/products/tags/fullres/RO_DD_General_Plastic_Tag.jpg

[Edited on April 7, 2004 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ..]

4/7/2004 12:33:26 PM

^ you are REALLLLY stretching here. i think this is hardcore PROOF you have no clue as to the truth or as to what is going on. just give up and kill yourself.

4/7/2004 12:35:40 PM

Quote :

"just give up and kill yourself --brianj320"

You wish.

4/7/2004 12:45:27 PM

4/7/2004 12:47:35 PM

On the role played by the Council on Foreign Relations in the push for a
one world government:

source: http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/cfr_whitewash_commission.htm

quote:

The late Admiral Chester Ward, who resigned from the CFR in disgust
after being a member for 16 years, was not exaggerating when he charged
that the group's agenda is to promote "disarmament and submergence of
U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world
government." The leadership of the group, he said, "is composed of the
one-world-global-government ideologists — more respectfully referred to
as the organized internationalists."

Admiral Ward's harsh assessment is more than justified.

The CFR has cut a sordid path through American history. But its dreadful
record has not stopped it from gaining unprecedented power and influence.
Author/journalist Richard Rovere (CFR) has aptly described the Council as
"a sort of Presidium for that part of the Establishment that guides our
destiny as a nation." It controls both major parties and has had a virtual
lock-hold on the executive branch of the federal government since World
War II.

"Bush & the Council for Revolution " by William Jasper(The New American
- Mar 12, 2001) "


[Edited on April 9, 2004 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ..]

4/9/2004 1:43:59 PM

The Globalist Elite use fear (eg, terrorism) to advance global government:

source: http://www.4rie.com/

"Today Americans would be outraged if U. N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore
order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there
was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened
our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead with world leaders
to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When
presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the
guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

--Henry Kissinger, in an address to the Bilderberg meeting at Evian,
France, May 21, 1992. Transcribed using a concealed tape recording made by one
of the Swiss delegates. Henry Kissinger is an inner-circle member of the Bilderbergs,
Council on Foreign Relations, and Trilateral Commission, and a long-time right-hand-man
of David Rockefeller, who aspires to be the Czar of the Global Union. Only Rockefeller
has attended more Bilderberg meetings than Kissinger.


"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis
and the nations will accept the New World Order."

--David Rockefeller


[Edited on April 12, 2004 at 12:25 PM. Reason : ..]

4/12/2004 12:05:25 PM

Article published in the Los Angeles Times comments on use of
civilian detention camps:

posting of original article: http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0814-05.htm

quote:

"Published on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 in the Los Angeles Times

Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision

Attorney general shows himself as a menace to liberty.

by Jonathan Turley

Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens
he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him from merely being a political
embarrassment to being a constitutional menace.

Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order
the indefinite incarceration of U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their
constitutional rights and access to the courts by declaring them enemy
combatants.

"

[Edited on April 12, 2004 at 12:17 PM. Reason : ..]

4/12/2004 12:16:24 PM

9-11 Commission members suggest U.S. needs a domestic spy agency:

source: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4384.shtml

quote:

"Now some members of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the
United States are asking whether Washington needs to create a new super-spy
agency to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Commission member Fred Fielding, a well-placed Republican lawyer, suggested
this week the United States should consider creating a domestic spy agency
like Britain's MI-5, which thwarted Irish Republican Army attacks in England and
coordinated intelligence for the British constabulary.

...Critics say such an agency would be an uncontrolled nightmare, operating in
secrecy and outside of the traditional safeguards against government power
needed to protect American freedoms."


[Edited on April 12, 2004 at 12:25 PM. Reason : ..]

4/12/2004 12:23:05 PM

DESTRUCTION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT:

Alabama man jailed for posting sign in his front lawn saying "Our Court System
Is a Joke":

infowars.com article: http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/jailed4sign.htm
courtwatchers.org article: http://www.courtwatchers.org/ALABAMANEOFACIST.htm


Kentucky man arrested for passing out video tapes warning of coming police state:

infowars.com article: http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/cw_rushing.htm
courtwatchers.org article: http://www.courtwatchers.org/KENTUCKYTROOPER.htm

[Edited on April 12, 2004 at 2:33 PM. Reason : ..]

4/12/2004 2:33:38 PM

Guess we know what this means...

Who wants to call in the black helecopters on salisburyboy?

4/12/2004 3:47:42 PM

Butler Shaffer, professor at the Southwestern University School of Law,
comments on the U.S. police state:

source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer24.html

quote:

"Americans are slowly beginning to discover the nature of the police state that
the political establishment has been putting together in recent decades. In case
you are foolish enough to believe that the "Department of Homeland Security"
was but a response to the terrorist attacks of 9/11, be advised that proposals
for such an agency had been considered long before last September; that
legislation for such a body was introduced at least as early as March 2001, and
was being discussed at various symposia and "think tanks" at the time. You
should also make yourself aware of the fact that the US government had plans
in place, prior to 9/11, for an invasion of Afghanistan – to begin in October 2001
– reportedly for the purpose of removing from power Afghan officials who were
not being cooperative in the creation of an oil pipeline across their landscape."

...

It requires no great genius or years of scholarly study to understand how the
future is implicit in the present. In July, 1987, the Miami Herald, along with some
other newspapers, ran news stories about secret plans, in the Reagan White
House, to suspend the Constitution, establish martial law, turn over the functioning
of the US government to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, and have
military commanders running state and local governments, in the event of a
national crisis. One of the architects of this plan was the conservative godling, Lt.
Col. Oliver North. There were even rumors, in some circles, that government
concentration camps were being readied for such a possibility."

...

Those who denounce these actions have already been warned by the likes of
White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer to "watch what they say," while Attorney
General Ashcroft criticized those "who scare peace-loving people with phantoms
of lost liberty." For added measure, Ashcroft offered up the scarecrow that such
critics "only aid terrorists." When one couples this remark with President Bush’s earlier
statement that "if you’re not with us you’re against us," the fear that dissenters
might be treated as "terrorist supporters" becomes realistic."



[Edited on April 15, 2004 at 11:46 AM. Reason : ..]

4/15/2004 11:45:25 AM

At least one U.S. citizen has been placed in a detention center:

source: http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm

quote:

"American citizens had assumed that the Patriot Act and the FBI Guidelines assured
that only foreign aliens could be placed in military detention centers, unprotected by
the U.S. constitution. But on June 10, 2002, an American citizen was declared by
Bush, without due process, to be an "enemy combatant" and to have no constitutional
protections. This American citizen was thrown into a naval brig in South Carolina.

Of course, Abdullah al Muhajir, a U.S. citizen also known as Jose Padilla, has been
branded a "known terrorist" with ties to al Qaeda, so almost no one is speaking out
against this abrogation of constitutional procedures. A reputed "terrorist" who is said
to have been building a "dirty bomb," Padilla, a New York-born man of Puerto Rican
descent, is assumed to be beyond the pale, not worthy of judicial prerogatives. But
what happens when Bush or the FBI brands you as a "terrorist" because you appear
to be a dissenter, denying you your constitutional rights as a U.S. citizen?

Attorney General Ashcroft has explicitly stated that terrorists do not deserve
constitutional protections. all they deserve are "courts" of conviction, not justice.
Unfortunately, in this creeping police state, who does and doesn't receive justice is
determined by Bush and his underlings."

4/15/2004 12:35:40 PM

Here's a good article in which Texe Marrs discusses the history of concentration camps....the
Nazis were not the first to use them and may have in fact modeled their camps after the Soviets,
who had used concentration camps long before the Nazis. By the way, the Soviets killed many
more people than the Nazis ever did. Marrs also discusses Operation Phoenix (little known
by the American public), a concentration camp program set up by the U.S. military and CIA
in South Vietnam in the 1960s and 70s.

http://www.freeworldalliance.com/newsflash/2003/03newsflash0003.htm

[Edited on April 15, 2004 at 12:56 PM. Reason : ..]

4/15/2004 12:56:24 PM

Bush wants to make Patriot Act permanent:

sources:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/04/20/MNG3N67NR51.DTL
http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/permanent_patriotact.htm

quote:

"President Bush said Monday that he considered it vital for Congress to pass a
permanent version of the USA Patriot Act, which has been criticized by some
liberals and conservatives for giving the federal government too much power in
the name of fighting terrorism.

Bush told a convention of Pennsylvania township officials that those concerned
about the expanded wiretapping and surveillance powers provided by the act were
laboring under a false hope about safety from terrorism.

"The Patriot Act defends our liberty," Bush said, repeatedly thumping the podium.
"The Patriot Act makes it able for those of us in positions of responsibility to
defend the liberty of the American people. It's essential law.""
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Patriot act "defends our liberty"?! How is that? By taking it away? What a joke...about
as good as naming the act the "patriot" act.

[Edited on April 20, 2004 at 3:44 PM. Reason : ..]

4/20/2004 3:43:04 PM

Georgetown University law professor David Cole comments on the Patriot Act:

source: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,63126,00.html?tw=wn_story_mailer

quote:

"WN: From a civil-liberties perspective, which Patriot Act provisions represent
the most egregious violations?

Cole:...Section 218 removes the probable cause requirement for wiretaps
and searches whenever the government has a significant foreign intelligence interest
in a criminal investigation. It is one of the most questionable provisions in the act
constitutionally, and is very likely to be challenged when the government seeks to
use evidence obtained in one of these wiretaps. But thus far we haven't got there.

The libraries provision (Section 215) gives the government the power to get records
from any business without showing that the suspect is a terrorist, a criminal or even
a foreign agent.

And the "sneak and peek" provision, which allows the government to delay notification
to homeowners of searches -- to engage in secret searches whenever the government
says that prior notice would undermine the criminal investigation, which they're going
to be able to say in every case."

4/21/2004 11:28:48 AM

Ted Koppel and Nightline Sell Martial Law:

source: http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/6790/index.php

4/21/2004 12:27:58 PM

This has to be a record, folks, Salisbury just sextuple posted.

4/21/2004 12:34:43 PM

So much for time mangement huh?

4/21/2004 12:51:41 PM

that's not 6 posts in one day, that's 6 posts over the course of 7 DAYS

[Edited on April 21, 2004 at 12:53 PM. Reason : ..]

4/21/2004 12:52:46 PM

I don't care if it's six posts over 7 years, the fact is no one is responding to this thread -- meaning they are not interested in it -- meaning you should let it die.

4/21/2004 12:57:26 PM

"Fundamental Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in."

--Nebraska State Senator Peter Hoagland, speaking on radio in 1983.


"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government ..."

--AMERICAN MERCURY MAGAZINE, December 1957, pg. 92.



[Edited on April 22, 2004 at 12:44 PM. Reason : ..]

4/22/2004 12:42:13 PM

^

Probably kind of a weak argument, but shouldn't it be noted that Communism failed? In most countries anyway . . .

Plus c'mon man, use some more recent stuff if you're just going to quote and babble. A twenty year old quote and an almost fifty year old quote? I don't think that can fully support whatever position you have.

4/22/2004 11:43:29 PM

Infowars.com Concentration Camp Archive:

http://www.infowars.com/cc_archive.htm

Infowars.com Martial Law Archive:

http://www.infowars.com/martial.htm

4/23/2004 12:22:50 PM

Pending Legislation to "Enhance" the Patriot Act Provides Death Penalty For Any Federal
Crime Punishable By Over One Year In Jail

source: http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2004/042704patriotactenhancement.htm

quote:

"The proposed legislation would do two things. First, it would make 23 crimes eligible for the
death penalty. Second, it would create an unprecedented "catch-all" death penalty for any
other federal crime punishable by more than a year in prison if it meets the PATRIOT Act's
overbroad definition of terrorism and results in death. The ACLU said that protestors and
activists from groups including Greenpeace and Operation Rescue could risk being sentenced
to death for participating in certain civil disobedience events if they involved a federal crime
punishable by more than a year in prison and resulted in a death of one of the participants or
someone else."

[Edited on April 27, 2004 at 11:45 AM. Reason : ..]

4/27/2004 11:44:28 AM

Portland Police murder woman at routine traffic stop

source: http://www.koin.com/webnews/20032/20030505_shooting.shtml

quote:

"PORTLAND -- A woman was fatally shot early Monday during a routine traffic stop in
north Portland.

Officers say they pulled over a car just before 3 a.m. on the Skidmore overpass over
Interstate 5.

Two occupants were taken into custody, but a woman in the back seat allegedly
struggled with police and tried to drive away.

One officer attempted to use a taser to subdue the suspect, but failed. Another officer
fired one shot at the woman, whose identity was not immediately released.

She later died at Legacy Emanuel Hospital.

The Portland Police Bureau is investigating."



[Edited on April 27, 2004 at 1:31 PM. Reason : ..]

4/27/2004 1:30:26 PM

4/27/2004 2:22:09 PM

Quote :

"but a woman in the back seat allegedly struggled with police and tried to drive away. One officer attempted to use a taser to subdue the suspect, but failed. Another officer fired one shot at the woman"

if it was a routine stop and she was struggling to get away from the police, she was most likely hiding something. if the police officer who shot her is at fault, then he will be reprimanded and lose his badge and possibly go to jail. i dont see the problem here.

4/27/2004 2:26:44 PM

Quote :

"1337 b4k4: When you post the videos in a format that will not damage my computer, I will watch them. It's that simple. All you have to do is reformat the video. That's it. "

1337 b4k4, here is 9-11: The Road To Tyranny in a windows media
player file. Perhaps you can download and watch the video at the link below.

http://propagandamatrix.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_911roadtotyranny.html



[Edited on April 29, 2004 at 1:25 PM. Reason : ..]

4/29/2004 1:22:21 PM

"And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be within the next generation or so a
pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing … a kind of painless
concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away
from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by
propaganda, brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods."

-- Aldous Huxley, 1959.

4/29/2004 8:29:12 PM

Quote :

"a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing … a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies"

Alcohol?

4/29/2004 10:10:49 PM

FBI trying to force Internet providers to make it easy for FBI to monitor
internet users:

source: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-5194394.html?tag=sas.email

quote:

"The FBI is trying to convince the government to mandate that providers of broadband,
Internet telephony, and instant-messaging services build in backdoors for easy wiretapping.

That would constitute a sweeping expansion of police surveillance powers. Instead of
asking Congress to approve the request, the FBI (along with the Department of Justice
and the Drug Enforcement Administration) are pressing the Federal Communications
Commission to move forward with minimal public input."


[Edited on May 1, 2004 at 2:30 PM. Reason : ..]

5/1/2004 2:26:38 PM

source:

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1083411750274472.xml

quote:

"Lawyers say post-9/11 U.S. is like police state

05/01/04

Jim Nichols
Plain Dealer Reporter

Americans have a fearsome new enemy since 9/11, and that enemy is their own
government, a panel of prominent defense lawyers told colleagues Friday.

Congress and the Bush administration are behaving in most un-American ways
under the guise of national security, the lawyers argued: gutting civil rights,
usurping powers to eavesdrop, creating secret tribunals where the accused have
no rights.

And, they emphasize, all Americans not just terrorists are potential victims of the
USA Patriot Act and other laws and presidential orders implemented in 9/11's wake.

...Among legal changes the defense lawyers lambasted:

National Security letters, which allow the FBI, without a warrant or judicial oversight,
to order Internet providers, phone companies and other businesses to disclose
sensitive data on anyone, then impose a gag order barring recipients from telling
anyone the information was requested.

New forms of warrants called "delayed notice" searches that let authorities enter
homes or businesses and copy computer or paper files without telling the search's
target, as traditional warrants require.

Virtually warrantless eavesdropping on electronic communication by the National
Security Administration and Justice Department. The government has been doing it
since 1978 to snoop for foreign spies, but now can share what used to be strictly
intelligence data with state and federal law-enforcement agencies, Mearns said.

The word "terrorism." The Patriot Act defines it so broadly that, had the act existed
earlier, it could have been used to crush the civil-rights movement."


[Edited on May 2, 2004 at 3:57 PM. Reason : ..]

5/2/2004 3:56:19 PM

He'll gladly sell you an all-important dvd, which oddly has not been reported in any reputable news agency to my knowledge for $25.95 +S&H


IN THIS BRUTAL EXPOSE YOU WILL WITNESS THE BIRTH OF A GLOBAL POLICE STATE THAT SURPASSES ORWELL'S NIGHTMARISH VISION. IT'S ALL HERE: THE HISTORY OF GOVERNMENT-SPONSORED TERRORISM, THE MODERN IMPLEMENTATION OF FEAR-BASED CONTROL AND, MOST FRIGHTENING OF ALL, THE NEW WORLD ORDER'S FUTURE PLANS. THIS IS ONE FILM YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO IGNORE. THE FUTURE OF FREE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE IS AT STAKE.

I would like to have this guy and michael "too sexy for my fat" moore have a pyscho debate.

5/3/2004 2:21:49 AM

Quote :

"Bush Can Hold U.S. Citizens Without Trial Monday June 28, 2004 3:46 PM By ANNE GEARAN Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court ruled narrowly Monday that Congress gave President Bush the power to hold an American citizen without charges or trial, but said the detainee can challenge his treatment in court. http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4254413,00.html"

[Edited on June 28, 2004 at 7:09 PM. Reason : ..]

6/28/2004 7:05:57 PM

YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING BY POSTING WEBSITES AND STORIES

IF YOU TRULY THINK THERE IS A POLICE STATE, YOU WILL MOBILIZE AND FIGHT... OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST A PARANOID PUSSY.

6/28/2004 7:11:12 PM

Quote :

"Supreme Court ruling foreshadows police state June 29, 2004 Welcome to Gulag Amerika, home of the shredded Constitution. On June 21, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that citizens no longer have the right to remain silent when questioned by the police. That “the state’s interest in protecting police and investigating crime” takes priority over the constitutional rights of citizens. That’s a horrifyingly broad umbrella. Bye-bye Fourth and Fifth Amendments. What happens: When the state decides that it’s safer for cops to eliminate that pesky Second Amendment? An unarmed populace is safer for police in a police state. When the state feels they can cut the military budget by quartering troops in private homes? What Third Amendment? When the First Amendment becomes inconvenient? Talk about the proverbial slippery slope. You have the right to remain silent, unless the state wants you to talk. That’s what this ruling says, unconstitutionally altering the Bill of Rights in the extreme. I thought it was conservatives who railed against “legislating from the bench.” That went the way of their respect for states’ rights, I guess. And we thought the PATRIOT Act (it’s an acronym having nothing to do with patriotism, you know) was bad! The iron boot heel of a police state is upon us. http://news.statesmanjournal.com/article.cfm?i=82700"

[Edited on June 29, 2004 at 6:53 PM. Reason : ...]

6/29/2004 6:49:56 PM

Quote :

"PROMINENT CONSTITUTIONAL EXPERT CHARGES US MOVING TOWARD A POLICE STATE New York - A leading constitutional lawyer is charging that the United States is in danger of creating a police state as it struggles to deal with the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington, D.C. Attorney Michael Ratner, a vice-president of the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and a lecturer in international human rights law at Columbia Law School warns that the specter of massive arrests and interrogation of immigrants, the possible use of torture to obtain information from criminal suspects, the wiretapping of attorney-client conversations and the establishment of military commissions to try suspected terrorists undermine core constitutional protections and set the ground for a police state. http://www.humanrightsnow.org/current.htm"

[Edited on July 10, 2004 at 12:01 PM. Reason : ..]

7/10/2004 11:58:32 AM

Big brother is watching you.

7/10/2004 12:41:33 PM