im thinking 16 person prob will be impractical too, but we'll see.

[Edited on May 21, 2005 at 8:40 AM. Reason : specially will all the ranged weapons, pretty gay to get huge lazer from insanely far]

5/21/2005 8:39:54 AM

if they made the revolution like that NES pic, i'd buy one no matter what.

5/21/2005 9:47:56 AM

Quote :

"They don't all have to be on one screen. The stages can be large enough to accommodate 16 people and the camera can be set to only zoom out to a certain distance. "

wtf are you talking about. the camera must include 16 people

i have no clue what youre talking about

5/21/2005 3:53:16 PM

If you're playing Super Smash Bros. online, the screen really only needs to focus on your character and the people close to him. With each person playing the game having their own screen, the game doesn't have to worry about including everyone on the screen at once.

5/21/2005 4:06:41 PM

ok i didnt know we're talking about online play

5/21/2005 4:07:55 PM

Quote :

"the game doesn't have to worry about including everyone on the screen at once"

Quote :

"specially will all the ranged weapons, pretty gay to get huge lazer from insanely far"

seriously, you could never chase anyone either cuz you could lose them if they were a fast char.

5/21/2005 6:18:40 PM

Did ya'll see Filter on G4. I was really suprised they put the Revolution against PS3 on the Filter face off. I honestly thought it was gonna be 360 vs. PS3.

5/24/2005 11:46:50 AM

^they'd lose half of their fanboy audience either way, that would be a lose lose situation for them



that station is so awful.

[Edited on May 24, 2005 at 4:16 PM. Reason : d]

5/24/2005 4:16:06 PM

Yall betta get ready. Nintendo has confirmed every single downloadable past Nintendo game via the Revolution will be 100% F.R.E.E. Where do I sign up?

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2584&

6/3/2005 4:16:15 PM

i applaud this marketing

6/3/2005 4:17:58 PM

Game over. This is indeed HUGE news.

6/3/2005 4:19:11 PM

Holy freakin shit. Great googly moogly.

6/3/2005 4:20:13 PM

Notice the fine print. Only Nintendo created titles such as zelda and mario will be free. Games by other developers in the past will cost whatever the developer wants to charge for it.

6/3/2005 4:22:56 PM

But still, thats alot of GOOD, QUALITY games. I'd love to play me some Fire Emblem.

6/3/2005 4:24:34 PM

^^I'm sure you will still be able to buy those games. They can't make them too expensive, they know that nobody is gonna pay more than $10 for like Mortal Kombat.

[Edited on June 3, 2005 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ]

6/3/2005 4:27:39 PM

Don't get me wrong, this is still huge. They just sold me a revolution with this move, I love all my old games. It'd just be better if all old nintendo games were going to be free Guess I'll settle for deep discount price though.

6/3/2005 4:30:28 PM

Well, I'm sure companies like Capcom will let you download for free :-p Or maybe just a small fee. The article states that progress hasn't been made on that avenue yet.

Besides, the ability to play SNES mariokart over the net is worth it alone.


[Edited on June 3, 2005 at 4:53 PM. Reason : ed]

6/3/2005 4:31:25 PM

I dont think they are going back and making all those games internet playable, they are just saying you can download them and play them on the revolution.

6/3/2005 4:59:18 PM

I think it would be easy... just treat an internet player as you would a guy sitting next to you.

One can hope.

6/3/2005 5:29:16 PM

OK, that link goes to an article that says:

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36071&subsectionid=1587

Quote :

"In a recent interview with US website GameSpot, Nintendo of America vice president George Harrison answered some burning questions, finally giving some kind of clue as to how Nintendo plans to play this generation. .... "People sort of picked on us for not prematurely jumping into online or internet gaming," he mused, going on to point out that now the company has more to offer besides online gaming. Harrison then confirmed that past-gen, Nintendo-created titles will indeed be downloadable for free. "

They must be referring to this interview, which said:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/26/news_6126595.html

Quote :

"GS: Now, what exactly is so revolutionary about the Revolution? Is this still kind of a state secret at Nintendo? GH: That will be a number of things. I mean, certainly the virtual console concept we describe with the ability to download the past Nintendo games is going to make it very unique. Not that someone else couldn't add that function, but they certainly can't add that kind of library and that kind of archive. GS: Do you plan on having like a per-download pricing model along the lines of the microtransactions that will be used in the next-gen Xbox marketplace? GH: Well, we can use it in a variety of ways. We've used some of the older games already as little bonuses, either as bonus gifts or hidden in levels of games. Certainly for the first-party titles we'll be making some of those available. We haven't really talked about whether we would sell them. The third parties can make their own decision whether they want to sell them, or maybe they will add it on as sort of a free benefit when you buy a current version of the game. "

The idea of free downloadable games probably comes from this:

Quote :

"GS: To continue with what's so revolutionary about the Revolution... GH: Well, I think certainly being wireless out of the box is revolutionary. People sort of picked on us for not jumping in prematurely into online or Internet gaming, but we just looked at it, the way it was evolving, and just felt that it was not time to jump in. But certainly with the next console it would be, with a couple of important changes like eliminating the access fee so there's not really a monthly subscription, and making use of first-party games, downloadable for free. That to us will be really revolutionary. Right now the estimates are anywhere between six and maybe 10 or 12 percent of console owners are playing online. You know, if you really have people embrace it and enjoy it, we think that should be well over 50 percent. I think I heard Nintendo president Mr. Satoru Iwata, and Nintendo vice president of sales and marketing, Reggie Fils-Aime, say this morning as much as 90 percent is the goal for DS online, which is a great goal, rather than keeping it a niche aspect of gaming, to make it a broad-based application. "

It's bogus, or contradicted himself 30 seconds before telling the truth. Nowhere does he confirm that all of the downloadable games will be free and he merely says some first-party games will be downloadable for free. If Nintendo really was gonna give ALL of their past first-party games away, don't you think that'd be a major talking point in their presentation at E3?

6/3/2005 5:50:24 PM

who owns the rights to goldeneye etc by rare since they got bought by microsoft? if nintendo got them in the deal would they be considered 1st party now and downloadable with other games like mario?

6/3/2005 6:17:24 PM

ea probably owns the rights to goldeneye, i believe they have the bond liscense

6/3/2005 8:53:57 PM

the sole reason why i always buy nintendo is to play mario/donkey kong/etc

i don't care about the usual bloodfeast ps2/xbox games

so i mean

whatever

6/3/2005 9:11:31 PM

you can play my donkey kong

6/3/2005 9:30:09 PM

I hope it would be free. But either way, I'm still not really convinced about this system being revolutionary. I'm just gonna wait it out to see what else Nintendo will come up with, especially w/ 3rd party support and mature games. I just really hope the Resident Evil series will still be on the Nintendo line up.

6/3/2005 9:45:09 PM

Quote :

"Besides, the ability to play SNES mariokart over the net is worth it alone. "

maybe i didnt read close enough.

you can dload the games, but who says that you can play mariocart with others on the net?

that would be amazing...to amazing for nintendo, just a little to smart then i thought nintendo was

6/3/2005 10:44:57 PM

Quote :

"to amazing for nintendo, just a little to smart then i thought nintendo was"

too amazing for Nintendo. Just a little smarter than I thought Nintendo to be.

6/3/2005 11:13:14 PM

Quote :

" There's some disappointing news for those expecting these classics to be available for free. Nintendo is planning on pay downloads as being the standard for this download system. There will be many types of services, though, including limited time free downloads. One possibility mentioned by Iwata is free downloads as bonuses for buying new games. Backwards compatibility for GameCube goes beyond just the software. You'll be able to use all controllers (Wave Bird included), memory cards, the Mario Party microphone, the Dance Dance dance pad and even the Donkey Konga konga controller."

http://cube.ign.com/articles/622/622870p1.html

[Edited on June 7, 2005 at 8:26 PM. Reason : ]

6/7/2005 8:24:09 PM

Bah, I don't really care. There aren't really any older Nintendo games that I want that I don't already have anyway. But that's just me personally.

6/7/2005 8:37:45 PM

^same here

But I'm interested in some 3rd party games that are hard to come by.

6/7/2005 8:58:34 PM

Here's a list of what's gonna be FREE thus far (notice Mario Kart 64, Perfect Dark, GOLDENEYE, etc.)

http://news.gaminghorizon.com/media2/1118026860.1280.html

Quote :

"Japanese game magazine, Famitsu, recently had a chance to talk to Nintendo and clear a few things up regarding the full list of backwards compatible titles that will be available free of charge on their next system. The list below contains 221 titles that were published in Japan. Not just developed like they previously stated. There will be more titles announced at a later date. NES: 1. 10-Yard Fight 2. Anticipation 3. Balloon Fight 4. Barker Bill's Trick Shooting 5. Baseball 6. Clu Clu Land 7. Dance Aerobics 8. Devil World 9. Doki Doki Panic 10. Donkey Kong 11. Donkey Kong 3 12. Donkey Kong Classics 13. Donkey Kong Jr. 14. Donkey Kong Jr. Math 15. Dr. Mario 16. Dragon Warrior 17. Duck Hunt 18. Excitebike 19. Famicom Wars 20. Final Fantasy 21. Fire Emblem Gaiden 22. Fire Emblem: Ankokuryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi 23. Flintstones: The Rescue of Dino and Hoppy 24. Golf 25. Gum Shoe 26. Gyromite 27. Hogan's Alley 28. Ice Climber 29. Ice Hockey 30. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (Taito) 31. Kid Icarus 32. Kirby's Adventure 33. Kung Fu 34. Mach Rider 35. Mario Bros. 36. Mario Time Machine 37. Mario is Missing! 38. Mario:Fun with Letters 39. Mario:Fun with Numbers 40. Metroid 41. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! 42. Mother (Earthbound) 43. NES Open Golf 44. Nintendo World Cup 45. Nuts & Milk 46. Pin-Bot 47. Pinball 48. Play Action Football 49. Popeye 50. Pro Wrestling 51. Punch-Out!! 52. R.C. Pro-Am 53. Rad Racer 54. Rad Racer 2 55. Short Order/Eggsplode 56. Slalom 57. Snake Rattle & Roll 58. Soccer 59. Stack Up 60. Star Tropics 61. Super Mario Bros. 62. Super Mario Bros. 2 63. Super Mario Bros. 2: The Lost Levels 64. Super Mario Bros. 3 65. Super Spike V'Ball/World Cup Soccer 66. Super Team Games 67. Tennis 68. Tetris 69. Tetris 2 70. The Legend of Zelda 71. To The Earth 72. Track meet 73. Urban Champion 74. Volleyball 75. Wario's Woods 76. Wild Gunman 77. World Class Track Meet 78. World Cup Soccer 79. Wrecking Crew 80. Yoshi (Mario & Yoshi) 81. Yoshi's Cookie 82. Zelda II: The Adventure of Link 83. Zoda's Revenge: Star Tropics II Super NES: 84. Derby Stallion 98 (NP) 85. Donkey Kong Country 86. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy Kong's Quest 87. Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble 88. EarthBound 89. F-Zero 90. FX Fighter 91. Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo 92. Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu 93. Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 94. Hyper V-Ball 95. Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball 96. Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run 97. Killer Instinct 98. Kirby Super Star 99. Kirby's Avalanche 100. Kirby's Dream Course 101. Kirby's Dream Land 3 102. Kirby's Ghost Trap 103. Legend (some say the movie inspired Zelda but the timing is off, sorry im a history buff) 104. Mario Paint 105. Mario and Wario 106. Mario's Early Years: Preschool Fun 107. Mario's Super Picross 108. Metal Combat: Falcon's Revenge 109. NCAA Basketball 110. NHL Stanley Cup 111. Panel de Pon 112. Picross NP Vol. 8 113. PilotWings 114. Shigesato Itoi's No. 1 Bass Fishing 115. Sound Fantasy 116. Star Fox 117. Stunt Race FX 118. Super Famicom Wars 119. Super Mario Kart 120. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 121. Super Mario World 122. Super Metroid 123. Super Punch-Out!! 124. Super Scope 6 125. Super Soccer 126. Super Soccer 2 127. Super Tennis 128. Tetris & Dr. Mario 129. Tetris Attack 130. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 131. Tinstar 132. Uniracers (Unirally, the game sucked bad you raced unicycles with no rider) 133. Winter Gold (FX Skiing) 134. World League Baseball 135. Yoshi's Island: Super Mario World 2 136. Yoshi's Safari Nintendo 64: 137. 1080° Snowboarding 138. Animal Forest (Animal Crossing) 139. Banjo-Kazooie 140. Banjo-Tooie 141. Blast Corps 142. Bomberman 64 143. Bomberman Hero 144. Buggie Boogie 145. Cabbage 146. Catroots 147. Climber 148. Command & Conquer 149. Creator 150. Cruis'n USA 151. Cruis'n World 152. Cu-On-Pa 153. Custom Robo 154. Custom Robo V2 155. DD Sequencer 156. Dezaemon DD 157. Diddy Kong Racing (w00t) 158. Donkey Kong 64 159. Doubutsu Banchou 160. Dr. Mario 64 161. Echo-Delta 162. Emperor of the Jungle 163. Excitebike 64 164. F-Zero X 165. Gendai Dai-Senryaku: Ultimate War 166. GoldenEye 007 167. Hey You, Pikachu! 168. Jack and the Beanstalk 169. Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest 170. Killer Instinct Gold 171. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards 172. Kirby's Air Ride 173. Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside 174. Major League Baseball Featuring Ken Griffey Jr 175. Mario Golf 176. Mario Kart 64 177. Mario Party 178. Mario Party 2 179. Mario Party 3 180. Mario Tennis 64 181. Mickey's Speedway USA 182. Mini Racers 183. Mischief Makers 184. Mysterious Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer 2 185. NBA Courtside 2: Featuring Kobe Bryant 186. Paper Mario 187. Perfect Dark 188. Pilotwings 64 189. Pokemon Puzzle League 190. Pokemon Snap 191. Pokemon Stadium 192. Pokemon Stadium 2 193. Pokemon Stadium: Gold, Silver, Crystal Version 194. Ridge Racer 64 195. Riqa 196. Shigesato Itoi's No. 1 Bass Fishing 197. Sin and Punishment: Successor to the Earth 198. Star Fox 64 199. Star Wars Episode I: Racer 200. Star Wars: Battle for Naboo 201. Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire 202. StarCraft 64 203. Super Mario 64 204. Super Smash Bros. 205. Tetrisphere 206. The Legend of Zelda DD (Ura Zelda) (Master Quest in America) 207. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 208. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 209. The New Tetris 210. Waialae Country Club: True Golf Classics 211. Wall Street DD 212. Wave Race 64 213. Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey 214. Yoshi's Story Satteleview Games: 215. BS F-Zero 2 Grand Prix 216. BS Special Tee Shot 217. BS Zelda 64 DD Games: 218. SimCity 64 219. F-Zero X Expansion Kit 220. Kyojin no Doshin 1 (Doshin the Giant) 221. Mario Artist: Communication Kit,Paint Studio,Polygon Studio, Sound Studio, Talent Studio "

[Edited on June 7, 2005 at 9:53 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2005 9:52:44 PM

^That is NOT a list of free games available for download. That is a list of games that Nintendo has published in Japan compiled by a message board user.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/622/622722p1.html

Really, do you think Nintendo would give away Goldeneye, the entire DKC series, Super Mario Kart and 64, and the entire Mario Bros. series away for free? What are they gonna charge us to download?

6/7/2005 10:31:46 PM

Quote :

"21. Fire Emblem Gaiden 22. Fire Emblem: Ankokuryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi 91. Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo 92. Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu 93. Fire Emblem: Thracia 776"

and for my girlfriend

Quote :

"189. Pokemon Puzzle League"

6/7/2005 10:34:51 PM

if you can download Duck Hunt, is the Zapper compatible with the Revolution? What about games that use the Power Pad?

6/7/2005 11:24:30 PM

Dear Nintendo:

Please to read the internet. The 21st century is calling.

Kthnx.

6/8/2005 1:05:22 AM

So I just read Nintendo is not supporting HD games...Is it just me or is this a really bad move. Honestly, why the fuck is Nintendo always hesitant to do something. I mean they didn't do online gaming cuz they didn't think it was time for online gaming and now look at them.

6/10/2005 9:22:28 PM

as a gamer that doesn't concern me at all. unfortunately, the majority of the buying market is of the opinion that " holy shitt!!! yuo can't see the tittays in HI-REZ on nintendo kiidie machine! more like gay-tendo lollers. GRAPHIX >> GAMEPLAY 4TW!"

6/10/2005 9:35:39 PM

graphics arent everything, but sweet high rez graphics enhance the gaming experience definately.

i want the whole package in a game.

6/10/2005 10:41:55 PM

i still think good-looking hi-res games will be expensive and few and far-between..

way too much work for designers and developers to pull off a 40-50 hour game with that much detail and way more expensive.. it will be passed on to the consumer

6/10/2005 11:02:24 PM

hardly any games are 40-50 hours long anyway so ur point isnt taken. truthfully i dont care if its that extra nice, cuz my tv's suck anyway. but short, awesome looking, well designed gaems are fine by me.

6/10/2005 11:16:12 PM

This point really pisses me off. The Nintendo Gamecube pretty much MADE me want a HDTV. People might not notice the difference in some games, but Super Smash Bros. and Soul Calibur II look fucking sweet in 480p. And if people can appreciate the difference in detail in those games (like I most certainly do), what makes Nintendo think the detailed textures of next-gen systems won't make a difference?

If they support 480p and 720p I won't mind, but if they completely drop progressive scan support I'm gonna be pissed the fuck off. They may as well drop Dolby Digital surround sound while they're at it. By 2008 their technology will be behind the times again. This is just like CD's and online support.

Honestly, it's another BIG strike against them if they don't support progressive scan at all and the decision sounds like another instance of looking at Japan instead of America. More and more people are jumping on the HD bandwagon and if they go into a store and are told that the Revolution doesn't support HD pictures, it's one more reason to pick up an Xbox 360 or PS3.

6/11/2005 12:53:17 AM

no joke.

If I dropped a couple grand on a nice HD set I'd want to play my video games in HD damnit. (whether or not graphics make the game)

6/11/2005 12:59:19 AM

^^Amen

6/11/2005 9:49:58 PM

Quote :

"Miyamoto and Iwata Talk Revolution Also, a few details on Mario 128 and DS/ Revolution connectivity. by Juan Castro July 25, 2005 - In a recent interview with EGM, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata and legendary game designer Shigeru Miyamoto commented on the upcoming successor to the GameCube, codenamed Revolution, and offered a few details on Mario 128 and the future of Nintendo in general. To start though, Iwata faced a series of questions focused on Nintendo's philosophy on game design, which sometimes places innovation above technological pizzazz. With the next-generation of videogame consoles on the horizon, longtime Nintendo fans worry the Nintendo Revolution simply won't compete with Microsoft's Xbox 360 or Sony's PS3 on a graphical level. "I don't think the Revolution's [graphics] will be inferior in any fashion to Xbox 360 or PS3," said Iwata. "Even if you look at Zelda on GameCube, I don't think that looks inferior to what the competition is touting as 'next generation' visuals. But we think there are more important things for now than making the system work with a high-definition television." Iwata went on to say that most people who will be playing the Nintendo Revolution won't be doing so on high-definition compatible television sets anyway, and that 480p (progressive-scan) will remain the standard. Bottom line, according to Iwata, is Nintendo's desire to create a system capable of attracting as many people as possible. On the same note, Iwata said Nintendo had no desire to make people pay extra out of the box for the Revolution's DVD functionality, since most people already own one or more DVD players. He also reiterated that the DVD player will be built-in and not an external attachment. At E3 2005, the company confirmed that an additionally purchased dongle would activate the built-in DVD functionality. As far as the Revolution's Internet connectivity is concerned, the system will be Wi-Fi compatible out of the box but won't come with an Ethernet port. Instead, Nintendo will sell an Ethernet adaptor for the Revolution's USB port. Iwata said it would be difficult, given where the Revolution will be in a household [probably the living room] for players to connect the Revolution to a traditional Ethernet line. Moving from hardware to software, Miyamoto said Nintendo is considering a DS version of the classic brawler Super Smash Bros. He also said that he'd like to make another Luigi's Mansion game and that a Pikmin game on Revolution would be a "good match" given the Revolution's unique and totally mysterious controller. But he said nothing about Pikmin Revolution was set in stone. Miyamoto also said that if it's technically possible on Revolution, then tweaking older games such as Mario Party for online play was a definite possibility. Finally, Iwata spoke on the Revolution's unique interface and if it would alienate third-party developers. "Well, of course, the idea is that the Revolution will sell and sell and sell so it becomes the standard in the industry," Iwata mused. "However, at least for the launch period, we designed the controller so it can play any of the different conventional styles. After all, we are talking about it playing games from our past machines (i.e. the virtual console). So don't worry." Stay tuned for more. "

http://cube.ign.com/articles/636/636350p1.html

480p support is something. Online play in older titles would be the shit. The USB Ethernet adapter is a smart move too.

7/25/2005 9:57:34 PM

so Nintendo FINALLY realized that they should make a system that uses standard media in a standard size.

Took the mongoloid fuckers long enough.

7/25/2005 10:19:19 PM

http://www.revogaming.net/html/modules/news/article.php?storyid=73

Quote :

"Peter Molyneux of Lionhead Studios (Black and White, Fable, The Movies) was quizzed at the Leipzig European Games Convention currently in progress; and has added to the positive comments from developers across the industry. Details inside. Molyneux had this to say of the Nintendo Revolution's controller: "There is a line at the end of the book 'Game Over' and it is: 'Never underestimate Nintendo'. That is all I can say about the controller." This is great news for Revolution fans, as such positive support from as influential figures as Yuji Naka and Peter Molyneux can only mean good things to come. RevoGaming will keep you updated. "

8/21/2005 6:57:50 PM

It is really kinda difficult to think about what they could be doing with this controller to make it so new and revolutionary, but if you think about it, most of the things standard on any controller these days were pioneered by Nintendo. And online play for older games would be great. I am looking forward to playing Goldeneye and SSBM online.

8/21/2005 7:17:42 PM

There's a few funny pics of the Revo controller on IGN:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/643/643663p1.html

[Edited on August 21, 2005 at 7:29 PM. Reason : .....]

8/21/2005 7:27:31 PM

That controller would suck. Gyroscopic motion sensors are just too sensitive and not stable enough for everyday gaming. Plus, people are too damn lazy too hold their arm out and keep it steady. Sidewinder PC controllers have had stuff like this before and it just sucked for use but was neat none the less.

8/21/2005 11:51:16 PM

Those guesses look like shit

8/22/2005 7:23:26 AM