its starting to look angry

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE ABOUT 900
MILES EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS HAS BECOME A LITTLE
BETTER ORGANIZED. WHILE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE CURRENTLY ONLY
MARGINALLY FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT... THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME
MORE FAVORABLE DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO...AND A TROPICAL
DEPRESSION COULD FORM LATER TODAY OR ON SATURDAY AS THE SYSTEM
MOVES TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST.

8/26/2005 3:53:20 PM

That looks like it's going to be a damn big storm.

8/26/2005 5:28:39 PM

story of what a Cat 5 will do to NO if it directly hits it...written a long time ago, it is pretty good and scary. 40-100k DEATHS.

http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/wetlands/hurricane1.html

8/27/2005 11:44:35 AM

Helll, maybe they will just do like they did before when they had a serious concern about flooding and break the levy upstream thus flooding thousands of smaller communities on the promise of compansation and then never pay them.

8/27/2005 12:15:11 PM

8/27/2005 1:09:30 PM

This one is gonna be a doozy. I've got a sick feeling in my gut about this one.

8/27/2005 9:02:16 PM

Me too. Goodbye New Orleans

8/27/2005 10:01:26 PM

Camelle II

Anyone else ever see the before and after picture of the hotel during Camelle where only one lady survived. There was this nice beautiful white several story hotel and then there was a foundation.

I can only hope there is a Cat.4 in the works for us here in NC.

8/28/2005 12:58:02 AM

8/28/2005 1:09:36 AM

Cat 5 this morning! This thing looks like the hand of God come to scour the Gulf Coast. If she keeps this massive strengtheningup until landfall, God help anybody in its path that can't evacuate.

8/28/2005 8:36:38 AM

Maybe the Katrina will get Chris Paul if he is already there in New Orleans.

8/28/2005 8:49:29 AM

as someone who went through a cat 4 (Andrew) the eye of it too....my sympathy goes out to new orleans

8/28/2005 8:51:01 AM

weak



[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 11:26 AM. Reason : ]

8/28/2005 11:18:08 AM

"Maybe the Katrina will get Chris Paul if he is already there in New Orleans. "

looks like it will break jamal levee

8/28/2005 12:24:04 PM

Here's wave height, wind speed, and air pressure from buoy 42001 about a 100 miles west of the eye (at 1100).




This is from buoy 42003. Katrina passed about 70 miles west at its closest point; it's now about 135 miles west of the buoy.




[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 12:54 PM. Reason : Buoy 42003 appears to have stopped sending data.]

8/28/2005 12:53:12 PM

holy shit

LA residents, GTFO

8/28/2005 12:55:03 PM

175 MPH sustained winds now

8/28/2005 1:05:25 PM

oh my lord .. I pray for the New Orleanians

8/28/2005 1:10:21 PM

Quote :

"This thing looks like the hand of God come to scour the Gulf Coast"

By the way, EVERYBODY better go get gas today. You think those little storms did anything for gas prices, think the fuck again. This thing is gonna knock some refineries and oil platforms outta action for a little while. I wouldn't be suprised by 20-30 cent jumps in gas when this thing is said and done.

I'm personally filling up every car I have today!

[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 1:24 PM. Reason : ]

8/28/2005 1:23:20 PM

^ Its already dropped production by a third in the gulf.

8/28/2005 1:28:02 PM

Quote :

"175 MPH sustained winds now "

gusts are over 210mph according to the hurricane hunters.

8/28/2005 1:29:09 PM

^ that is beyond insanity

8/28/2005 1:45:04 PM

just heard one report say that everyone is tryin to evacuate and no one can go anywhere because everyone is trying to leave....then they told about that article up there....said it may be worse disaster than the typhoon that hit....

I pray for them but know its gonna be bad, just expecting the worst.

NC is next though.

8/28/2005 2:28:57 PM

^, ^^ The prediction is that it will be 'only' 160MPH at landfall (with gusts +20 +25 more)

8/28/2005 2:29:15 PM

1pm CDT advisory
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT2+shtml/281737.shtml

000
WTNT32 KNHC 281737
TCPAT2
BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 23A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA MENACING THE NORTHERN
GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA. A TROPICAL
STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A HURRICANE WATCH
MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH
AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 1 PM CDT...1800Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.5 NORTH... LONGITUDE 88.6 WEST OR ABOUT 180 MILES
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH...AND A TURN
TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 175 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON
THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY
DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 205 MILES.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 906 MB...26.75 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING THIS EVENING OVER
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND
OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 1 PM CDT POSITION...26.5 N... 88.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...
175 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 906 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
4 PM CDT.

FORECASTER PASCH

$$

8/28/2005 2:31:20 PM

It's a pretty storm but knowing our luck we'll get a 3 or 4 in the future.

Season's not over yet!

8/28/2005 2:32:25 PM

184mph and 902mb

8/28/2005 2:40:19 PM

Damn that storm is going to kill some bitches.

[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 2:54 PM. Reason : 4]

8/28/2005 2:53:46 PM

^ I've heard that too. Who's reporting that, though?

8/28/2005 2:53:53 PM

What are the chances of it strengthening to Camille's (~190ish) caliber? Yeah, I doubt New Orleans will be on the map in a few days.

8/28/2005 2:55:54 PM

My dad is supposed to go down there on Tuesday to check the progress of a ferry boat he's having built down there. It was only launched a few weeks ago, and doesn't have an engine in it yet, so all they can do is tie it to the dock and hope for the best.

8/28/2005 3:07:39 PM

^hope he's got insurance on it. . .

8/28/2005 3:09:15 PM

Thank you joepeshi for finding that picture.

Wow...just wow. the symmetry on this strom is just beautiful.

As soon as I saw the winds were at 175mph it reminded me from the line in Twister,
"The Defender of God"

8/28/2005 3:13:45 PM

^You sure you don't mean, "The Finger of God"?

8/28/2005 3:17:00 PM

I know what I meant.

8/28/2005 3:24:05 PM

Somebody set up New Orleans the bomb.

8/28/2005 3:26:22 PM

^^^

Quote :

"Melissa: Is there an F 5? What would that be like? Jason 'Preacher' Rowe: The finger of god "

8/28/2005 3:33:12 PM

Quote :

"a cat 4 (Andrew)"

Andrew was NOT a category 4.....it was a 5. You usually post quality material so we'll let this one slide.

Hmm. My bad. All this time I thought that dude said "The Defender of God". Weird.

[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 3:34 PM. Reason : Doh]

8/28/2005 3:33:22 PM

Andrew was a 4 when it landfall (13 yrs ago friday)


they are calling for katrina to be a 5 upon landfall

word going out is that the eye pressure just dropped 4 milibars and speed has picked up to 184 mph sustained.....still waiting for confirmation

8/28/2005 3:43:04 PM

I was in Biloxi during Camille and nine years old; we were evacuated onto Keesler AFB from base housing during the afternoon before Camille arrived in the late evening. Things I recall most about the aftermath were: seeing a huge ore-barge that had been floated up onto HWY 90 (now I-10); all of the fishing vessels that had been rammed into the large old southern mansions along the beachfront; the number of large pine trees snapped off about 10' from the ground - when the stubs were removed, what was left were these large holes so that the area of base housing looked as though a blanket bombing had occured; the long lines to get ice blocks for drinking water. Perhaps the most bizzare thing, though, was the bay bridge; the concrete sections of highway well above the mean water level (15' or so) had been floated or pushed by wave action so that the road sections appeared like dominoes that had been tipped over rather than flat.

I cannot imagine what the damage and suffering will be like to a major metropolitan area from a storm of similar magnitude.

^ & ^^ If I recall correctly, Andrew was "upgraded" to a category 5 some years afterwards; perhaps motivated by the fact the Andrew knocked out the NHCs radar?

[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 3:47 PM. Reason : ..]

8/28/2005 3:43:21 PM

^^It's actually still heavily debated what Andrew was due to eye wall contraction. That was something that they didn't really know about then and doing research has given strong indication that it was a Cat. 5.

8/28/2005 3:52:15 PM

there is some conflict but they reclassified that it was a 5 when it hit florida afterwards. it was a 4 when it hit la tho so that could also be what he was talking about.

at 26.64 lb/in this is stronger than camille and andrew. the "labor day" hurricane allegely had a pressure of 26.35 lb/in but im not gonna beleive they were able to get that reading accurately in 1935 SO IM CALLING THIS THE STRONGEST

8/28/2005 3:59:53 PM

regardless, discussing this is a moot point. katrina is strong and aiming at a vulnerable location. the fact that katrina is even being discussed with andrew is all we need to know.

although important, there comes a time where the science takes a back seat to human nature, and to be honest, i'm not at all interested in the science of this storm anymore. i just hope no one is around when it hits

[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 4:04 PM. Reason : ]

8/28/2005 4:03:31 PM

Yea Hockey I loved Twister and remembered that line. I was gonna say that earlier in the thread, but I said naw fuck that, if a twister a mile wide is the finger of God, then this baby would have to be his whole damn hand.

8/28/2005 4:03:36 PM

^^[/thread]

8/28/2005 4:05:10 PM

^^^^You heard it here first from the Professional Freshman Meteorology Student. THE STRONGEST EVAR!!!

I am just picking on you. It's good to see someone else able to find good data. Although people in Japan are probably laughing at us right now about the way we freak out over 175mph winds.

[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 4:06 PM. Reason : .]

8/28/2005 4:05:20 PM

Labor Day Storm also only got up to 140 mph winds. Pressure may have been lower, but its not the screaming bitch that Katrina is.

8/28/2005 4:07:58 PM

so what do they do with everyone in the hospitals?

8/28/2005 4:08:05 PM

In regards to the Superdome housing thousands of people....this is an article from last year when Hurricane Ivan was approaching.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/2004-09-16-ivan-superdome_x.htm?POE=WEAISVA

Quote :

"The Superdome can withstand most catastrophes; the roof is built to stand up to 200 mph wind and even deep flood water wouldn't reach the second level 35 feet from the ground."

There is no fucking way I'd stay in the place.

8/28/2005 4:22:19 PM

Quote :

"Although people in Japan are probably laughing at us right now about the way we freak out over 175mph winds."

Uh, not really. The strongest cyclonic storm system ever recorded anywhere with reliable data is 190 mph, so we're really not that far off, and Camille WAS 190. Typhoon Tip in the Pacific was also 190, but was huge as hell. There was one Pacific Storm named Nancy that has been projected as high at 213 MPH, but there is a footnote that says accurate data measurements were not available, and it is likely not that high.

By the way, New Orleans is about to get



[Edited on August 28, 2005 at 4:23 PM. Reason : ]

8/28/2005 4:22:29 PM