omg

well if motorcycles are so dangerous

and big ben didn't die

then that must mean

cars, skiing, horseback, planes, and sleeping are all more dangerous



STILL SAF'R THAN PRETZELS

6/13/2006 12:57:08 PM

riding a motorcycle without a helmet is safe, there is no chance of injury, not even a 9" laceration on the back of your head or a broken jaw or missing teeth or a broken left sinus cavity...motorcycles are the safest form of tranportation in the world

since anything can be dangerous, i'm going to continue to deny that motorcycles might be more dangerous because i'm stubborn as fuck and construe all this talk as offensive to a biker like myself

6/13/2006 1:04:25 PM

if there was a mod worth a shit in this section, woodfoot would be suspended

we get it, you're a fucking tard. seriously, we get it

6/13/2006 1:14:13 PM

thank you twista

thats all i needed to hear someone say

6/13/2006 1:16:17 PM

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=267470

6/13/2006 1:38:15 PM

wait

why would i be suspended

because i disagree with you dismissive fuckers?

6/13/2006 1:46:46 PM

Seahawks did it

6/13/2006 1:55:54 PM

dude let it go

6/13/2006 2:00:02 PM

because you're fagging up the place with your ridiculous bullshit

6/13/2006 2:01:11 PM

its now ridiculous to suggest that motorcycles aren't as dangerous as you fuckers suppose

great

6/13/2006 2:03:05 PM

all i've said is that riding a motorcycle is more dangerous than a car, which i don't really thinkyou can much argue with.

6/13/2006 2:06:20 PM

you suggested it once.

we all disagreed

but you continued to try to be clever with the pictures and feeble strawman arguments

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .]

6/13/2006 2:07:00 PM

So whats the difference in insurance rates for cars and motorcycles (proportional to the cost/value of each)?

6/13/2006 2:07:24 PM

woodfoot why dont you fly up to pittsburgh and ask big ben if he think motorcycles are dangerous

6/13/2006 2:11:34 PM

how bout this woodfoot

motorcycles arent inherently dangerous

but when you couple them with factors such as careless drivers, uneven road surfaces, and a lack of a protective barrier between the rider and the outside environment; motorcycles place the rider at a significant risk for bodily harm.

Yeah, if you ride on a nice, smoothly paved road out in bumfuck with no other motorists around, you probably won't wreck- and if you do, odds are you wont be as hurt because you might have more time to react and lay your bike down. But that's not where most accidents happen, now is it?

6/13/2006 2:16:16 PM

Quote :

"Roethlisberger's injuries only on face, will play in opener Tuesday, June 13, 2006 By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette The injuries to quarterback Ben Roethlisberger were confined to his face and the Steelers are confident he should heal and be ready to play in the season opener Sept. 7 against the Miami Dolphins, sources told the Post-Gazette today. Roethlisberger has a broken jaw, a broken nose and some injuries to his teeth but otherwise came through his motorcycle accident on Monday with nothing else but some scrapes and bruises. Published reports that detailed injuries to his knees and shoulders are untrue, sources said. One source said that the surgery on Roethlisberger's face took so long -- seven hours -- in order to assist in a faster recovery time. Roethlisberger also should be ready to participate in training camp, although he may not play in the first preseason game Aug. 12 in Arizona. The quarterback had seven hours of surgery yesterday afternoon and evening to repair facial fractures caused when his motorcycle struck a car on Second Avenue at the 10th Street Bridge. After the surgery, doctors said the facial fractures were successfully repaired but they would not elaborate. They did say that there appears to be no brain, spine, chest or abdomen injuries."

http://post-gazette.com/pg/06164/697867-100.stm

fwiw

6/13/2006 2:21:24 PM

Quote :

"Roethlisberger has a broken jaw, a broken nose and some injuries to his teeth but otherwise came through his motorcycle accident on Monday with nothing else but some scrapes and bruises."

scrapes = 9" laceration on the back of his head?

6/13/2006 2:24:01 PM

Quote :

"woodfoot why dont you fly up to pittsburgh and ask big ben if he think motorcycles are dangerous"

i'll bet you $50 dollars right now

we can put that shit in esgrow on paypal

that big ben will ride a motorcycle again

or would you rather keep this at rhetoric

6/13/2006 2:40:34 PM

everybody in this thread thinks you're a dumbass (in this thread)

6/13/2006 2:42:08 PM

thats fine with me

6/13/2006 2:42:47 PM

Quote :

"motorcycles arent inherently dangerous but when you couple them with factors such as careless drivers, uneven road surfaces, and a lack of a protective barrier between the rider and the outside environment; motorcycles place the rider at a significant risk for bodily harm."

in all seriousness

thats what i wanted to hear

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 2:45 PM. Reason : VV bullshit]

6/13/2006 2:43:50 PM

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 2:44 PM. Reason : god damn tripod]

6/13/2006 2:44:05 PM

thats what everyone already knew

you just didnt want to accept the context they used when they said "motorcycles are dangerous"

6/13/2006 2:44:27 PM

Quote :

"big ben will ride a motorcycle again"

most likely...but i bet he wear a helmet next time

6/13/2006 2:47:04 PM

^^you say that after saying things like

Quote :

"but i mean, crotch rockets are inherently more dangerous"

when witnesses are all saying he was not speeding at all

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 2:48 PM. Reason : ^that one i won't put any money on ]

6/13/2006 2:47:31 PM

THATS THE POINT

holy jesus

the same wreck between two cars and the same speeds and all we'd be talking about is ben's whiplash

6/13/2006 2:48:30 PM

i dont care if he was speeding are not

crotch rockets are inherently more dangerous than hogs

and motorcycles are dangerous

you're the only one who disagrees

6/13/2006 2:48:35 PM

oh here we go again...

so a person following all the rules of the road on a hyabusa

is at more risk

than a person following all the rules of the road on a harley

fucking brilliant

6/13/2006 2:50:03 PM

damn you're stubborn

6/13/2006 2:51:09 PM

i'm stubborn because i spend a decent amount of miles driving around on one of these, and i'm surrounded by idiots like you fuckers who would rather complain about motorcycles than be less of a threat

6/13/2006 2:54:14 PM

So whats the difference in insurance rates for cars and motorcycles (proportional to the cost/value of each)?

6/13/2006 2:56:22 PM

ok so t-boning a car head first isnt any more dangerous than on a harley or something similar where you have your head and body parts farther away from the impact?

I dont see how those are the same

6/13/2006 2:58:59 PM

hell, if you want to make shit up like that

being farther back increases the force you're trajected with

^^i'd have to check, but i think my jeep and my motorcycle have roughly the same insurance rates (of course i have the minimum required coverage on both)

6/13/2006 3:03:25 PM

how exactly is that making shit up?

6/13/2006 3:05:38 PM

staying with the earlier theme....






KWII APPROVES MOTORCYCLES.

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 3:10 PM. Reason : fsd]

6/13/2006 3:08:41 PM

i don't think it's up to ben if he rides again.

1) he has no license to do so
2) he has ridden w/out a license, and since he hasn't had a license for 2 years he is required by law to wear a helmet, which he didn't do. i'm sure breaking these laws will probably keep him from being able to legally ride for awhile, but that's not what will stop him.

3) cowher and rooney will NOT allow this to happen again. they will set aside new rules, regardless of what is in his contract, and will make it clear that he will be punished if he disobeys. they'd rather bench him themselves than have an off the field injury keep him on the sidelines.

they already don't allow him to ride during the season, but i'm sure they'll stop allowing him to ride in the offseason now as well. it's possible that ben will pick up riding again when he retires, but by then it will have been so long since he's ridden, he may have lost interest in it, or realized the dangers and decided to stop (less likely).

bottom line is, i'll be surprised if i ever hear of ben riding again while he plays for the steelers, unless of course that is quickly followed up with him being benched for X number of games for getting caught.

6/13/2006 3:14:13 PM

Quote :

"i'd have to check, but i think my jeep and my motorcycle have roughly the same insurance rates (of course i have the minimum required coverage on both)"

But I'm assuming your Jeep is insured for more $ - you're insuring a $12k jeep and a $7k motorcycle?

6/13/2006 3:16:33 PM

$1200 jeep
$1000 motorcycle

^^and i'd still like to know if ben has a permit

a permit and a license are two separate things


[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 3:56 PM. Reason : `]

6/13/2006 3:54:23 PM

i'd still like to know if ben has a brain

6/13/2006 4:11:37 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005QQcategoryZ25211QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

6/13/2006 4:47:26 PM

^man haha thats horrible

6/13/2006 5:06:14 PM

bid is at $81

fucking amazing

6/13/2006 5:12:16 PM

what the fuck. $81 for a box?

6/13/2006 5:52:59 PM

a box of comedy!

6/13/2006 8:21:30 PM

If professional athletes want to ride motorcycles, or jump out of airplanes, or shoot themselves to see if their newly bought bulletproof vest works then so be it. They know what they are risking when they do it. I just hope that if he comes back and sucks, that he didn't spend all his money. And if he did that he got a degree that was worth something.

6/14/2006 12:13:47 AM

fucking idiot

but if he wants to risk his life like that, doesnt harm us at all


real test will to see if he keeps riding bikes after this, and if so if he keeps on riding around without a helmet

6/14/2006 12:34:11 AM

I think that given the fact that there are other vehicles on the road that at a minimum 3 or 4 times heavier than a motorcycle, it is more dangerous to be riding a motorcycle than a car. Identical collision between a motorcycle and a car versus a car and a car, more damage will be done to the car every time.

Couple that with 2 wheels being inherently less stable than 4 wheels, the fact that your only protection is the helmet/clothes you wear (no airbags, etc.), it is obvious that all other things being equal, it's more dangerous to ride a motorcycle. Insurence rates attest to that fact.

This is honestly one of the dumbest discussions I've ever heard, even for Tdub.

6/14/2006 9:39:12 AM

cause woodfoot is


HARD.....HEAADDEEEEEDDD

6/14/2006 11:26:18 AM

i will refer you to UJustWait84's post

Quote :

"motorcycles arent inherently dangerous but when you couple them with factors such as careless drivers, uneven road surfaces, and a lack of a protective barrier between the rider and the outside environment; motorcycles place the rider at a significant risk for bodily harm"

6/14/2006 3:16:56 PM

by that rational, nothing is inherently dangerous.

atomic bombs aren't inherently dangerous.

but when you couple them with factors such as exploding, or outside forces that when applied cause it do detonate or its contents to leak or mix together; atomic bombs place anyone around them at a significant risk for bodily harm"



[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 3:25 PM. Reason : df]

6/14/2006 3:20:38 PM