babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I do not support Hezbollah, I support Iran, Israel, Syria, Hezbollah and hamas and all other extremists down there when it comes to hurting and weakening each other. 7/17/2006 2:23:55 AM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
^huh? 7/17/2006 2:47:20 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Finish them off the face of this earth. 7/17/2006 2:50:21 AM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'm with all of them weakening each other. Israel can fight Hezbollah but not destroy places in Lebanon that have nothing to do with Hezbollah.
Many of my friends including myself were happy about Israel doing this in the beginning, but now even the Christians are becoming against Israel because of what it is doing to the entire country. Whenever they get news of damage done on Israel, they are happy. The thing is, Israel doesn't care about anyone's support except from the US and they already have that for now. 7/17/2006 3:24:59 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
youre all fucking retards, especially you babzi.
lets start WWIII right now in palestine.
and the only country who can stop it, the USA, is otherwise "previously engaged".
yeah.
arent we all glad we have such a wonderful, insightful, widely repscted foriegn-policy statesman for a president.
no? not yet?
well, you will be.
soon. 7/17/2006 4:33:11 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Israel can fight Hezbollah but not destroy places in Lebanon that have nothing to do with Hezbollah." |
good luck with this... support of hezbollah weakening israel (shown by not reigning in hezbollah) is going to get lebanon completely destroyed...i understand that you dont want israel to blow up "nice,beautiful" parts of lebanon...but thats not going to happen...if the rest of you wont get control of one of the parties in your government...dont be suprised that israel is bombing the whole place
dont cut off your nose to spite your face...
also... http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/17/D8ITOIA00.html
seems they went across the border....did some work and then came back...NOT due to the great butt-kicking that Hezbollah gave them...you are delusional if you think israel wants to invade lebanon but cant because Hezbollah is too strong
[Edited on July 17, 2006 at 9:04 AM. Reason : asdf]7/17/2006 8:56:47 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Isreal could probably invade all of Lebanon, flatten Syria, and bomb Iran.
They aren't wanting of military power. 7/17/2006 9:37:15 AM |
smcrawff Suspended 1371 Posts user info edit post |
Israel could probably defeat them all again, but the casualties would be huge. 7/17/2006 10:35:27 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
babzi, I'm guessing you're Lebanese.
How much of the Lebanese government's powerlessness you think is due to the constitutionally-defined 50-50 split for representation between Christian and Muslim, which makes it so there's no such thing as a leader that in confidence can say he represents the country? 7/17/2006 12:13:06 PM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
the Lebonese government was supposed to rid Southern Lebanon of Hezbollah. They didn't. So I guess now they're finding out the consequences of letting bad people do your dirty work 7/17/2006 12:51:06 PM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
trikk311, never listen to military officials from Israel, biggest liars on earth. They went in twice and came back twice due to defeat. Nobody can control Hezbollah in Lebanon, they are stronger than the army has ever been and they tried to calm them down by including them in the elections. That was just another Syrian move before it completely "withdrew" from Lebanon.
joe_schmoe, It is a good time to start WWIII, actually it's already started. Unfortunately, it will come on the expense of Lebanon because of the idiots Hezbollah and Israel being outta control over two soldiers the probably don't give a fuck about anyways. 2 days ago, Israel said that it won't stop until Hezbollah disarms and until they get the soldiers back. Well today, Israel is saying that it will all stop if they just get their soldiers back. You know why there's a change? Because they are getting pounded in a way they never thought was possible! Already demonstrations are occuring in Israel for this war to stop.
Flyin Ryan you're exactly right with that question, the answer is a lot.
mytwocents The government somewhat wants this since the head is sunni and would want Hezbollah the shiite to weaken. I believe the whole plan is that they make Lebanon almost fully sunni, drive the christians out of there and weaken the shiite Hezbollah. What the government didn't know was that Israel would go outta control on the whole control weakening the government. But who cares since the Saudis will support the sunni Fouad Siniora and fix Lebanon with their money. A major member of the Lebanese governnment, son of Rafiq al Hariri, Saad al Hariri is a Saudi puppet and is the richest man in Lebanon, he is also sunni. A lot of saudis have mansions in all different parts of Lebanon. 7/17/2006 1:25:19 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "trikk311, never listen to military officials from Israel, biggest liars on earth. They went in twice and came back twice due to defeat." |
yeah...well we all know how open, honest and truthful terrorists like hezbollah are sooo...i think ill go with what Israel and other news out lets are reporting...
hezbollah is not powerful enough to stop anything (which speaks poorly for the leboneese government im afraid since they cant even stop hezbollah) ...as we have seen...all hezbollah can do is lob rockets into israel7/17/2006 1:28:33 PM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
the only reason why Hezbollah isn't banished at this point is because Israel is trying to target ONLY the members of Hezbollah and not the civilians. If they didn't give a shit, they'd take em out in 5 minutes and if you think otherwise than you're just as delusional as them]] 7/17/2006 1:39:18 PM |
cxmai Suspended 412 Posts user info edit post |
you cant kill hezbollah. theres no uniforms and no way to tell. israel is fighting a pointless battle. all they are doing is creating anger amongst non hezbollah lebanese. this whole thing is a shame. if israel cared anything about non-israeli civilians they would've just dealt with this peacfully by trading soldiers.
and we all have seen how NASTY the israeli military can be behind the scenese. 7/17/2006 1:46:07 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if israel cared anything about non-israeli civilians they would've just dealt with this peacfully by trading soldiers. " |
yeah dude let em know they can get their way if they just cause a big enough ruckus
great policy7/17/2006 1:49:31 PM |
statepkt All American 3592 Posts user info edit post |
Swapping prisoners would only encourage more kidnappings, Israel would have to be stupid to agree to that.
If Hezbollah cared any about the people of Lebanon then they wouldn't have kidnapped the soldiers, or they would have released them to end this peacefully. You have to be a fool to think Israel is the only one in position to end this peacefully.
[Edited on July 17, 2006 at 1:52 PM. Reason : .] 7/17/2006 1:49:43 PM |
cxmai Suspended 412 Posts user info edit post |
ok. well what do you expect hezbollah to do? and hamas? just go away? 7/17/2006 1:52:54 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
There's really only 4 solutions to this in our lifetime or the next generation
1) Israel relocates all its citizens elsewhere and dissolves 2) Arab countries accept Israel as a sovereign nation and begin to deal with the Israelis in peaceful terms 3) All Israelis die 4) All Arabs in the surrounding regions die 7/17/2006 1:56:59 PM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
^^no, they're not gonna 'go away'...they've been asked nicely 100 times. They're terrorists, and the only way at this point to make them 'go away' is to kill as many of them as possible and disrupt their headquarters.
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Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
voted 4
7/17/2006 1:58:54 PM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's true, but their headquarters is not all of Lebanon, Israel is destroying all of Lebanon. They are killing civilians left and right. Blowing up people in cars, killing Lebanese army soldiers, everything...
[Edited on July 17, 2006 at 2:02 PM. Reason : .] 7/17/2006 2:02:14 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
you cant kill hezbollah??...sure you can...who cares if they dont wear uniforms...its lebanons fault anyway for not dealing hezbollah...israel is showing more restraint than most any other nation in the world would if they were put in those circumstances
^thats why the lebanese people better wake up and do something about hezbollah....they cant be mad at israel for defending itself...that CAN be mad at hezbollah for being idiots and bringing so much death and destruction to thier nation
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babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^ you are very right there, but it's really not that easy to disarm Hezbollah, their weapons are what they're all about. They're also Lebanese and feel like they are there to defend Lebanon from Israel. You think the Lebanese army can take on Hezbollah, not even close, Hezbollah would erase the army very quickly. For the government to try and disarm Hezbollah, more chaos would occur and eventually it couldn't happen. 7/17/2006 2:25:39 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Israel should subjugate themselves to the New Ottoman Empire. 7/17/2006 2:28:19 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You think the Lebanese army can take on Hezbollah, not even close, Hezbollah would erase the army very quickly. For the government to try and disarm Hezbollah, more chaos would occur and eventually it couldn't happen." |
this is what im saying...the lebanese army/government is not going to stop hezbollah from attacking israel...so...israel is going stop them...and the people of Lebanon are affectively helping Hezbollah by not helping Israel ... so you cant expect Israel to care if they hit a power station or take out some other infrastucture7/17/2006 2:32:39 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and we all have seen how NASTY the israeli military can be behind the scenese." |
Out of curiosity, do you consider beheadings, firing unguided rockets, and suicide bombers in public places NASTY, too?7/17/2006 3:13:00 PM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^hehe, good one. They all nasty! 7/17/2006 3:13:48 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Why do people seem to assume that one side has to have the moral highground in a war? Most of the time, both sides are jerks. 7/17/2006 4:58:54 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""See, the irony is what they really need to do is to get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit, and its over"" |
lol7/17/2006 5:06:54 PM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
Israel dropped leaflets today in Jal-el-dib, Bekineya and Bsalim. These are 100% christian areas and hezbollah has nothing at all to do with them. Well the leaflet said that Israel was going to bomb the power station of Bsalim so stay away from it. So this would mean all the people in these areas will be out of power for no reason. Oh actually there is a reason and it is that Israel is out of control and very afraid.
So who wants to defend such an action and say that it is strategic?
[Edited on July 17, 2006 at 6:27 PM. Reason : .] 7/17/2006 6:26:50 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
i will...
they are bombing that area because the people that live there will do nothing to stop hezbollah...not only that...but hezbollah could use those areas to plan or stike or whatever...
want to deny or refute any of that?? 7/17/2006 7:13:05 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
This just in: Hezbollah explains rationale for rocket attacks.
"We are attacking that area because the people that live there will do nothing to stop the IDF. Not only that, but the IDF could use those areas to plan or stike or whatever." 7/17/2006 7:49:13 PM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
This just in: Hezbollah is a terror organization so 7/17/2006 8:10:56 PM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ that is the dumbest shit I've seen on here, trikk311, you obviously have no clue about what you're talking about so just go to some other section and post about you being naive and ignorant.
[Edited on July 17, 2006 at 8:41 PM. Reason : .] 7/17/2006 8:39:42 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
hey babzi....who has no idea what they are talking about?? you are the ignorant moron who thinks hezbollah just turned around the most powerful army in the middle east...everyone here knows you are just plain delusional....except your pal protostar....and he is just as delusional is you...go to chit chat you idiot 7/17/2006 10:58:16 PM |
cxmai Suspended 412 Posts user info edit post |
neither is delusional 7/17/2006 10:59:39 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
both of them are 7/17/2006 11:03:47 PM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^ I have no idea what I'm talking about, you beat me. Oh, the whole world is against how Israel is bombing places that have nothing to do with Hezbollah yet you feel it is necessary. Well you son of a bitch, in their process of this necessary out of control bombing, a friend of mine going to work in shtawra was killed today by Israel bombs. Again, this is an area where there was/is no Hezbollah. Just shut the fuck up and let's see how your pussy self would feel if America took two soldiers from Mexico and they came and put every single sombreros in you and your mother's ass. 7/17/2006 11:13:22 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh, the whole world is against how Israel is bombing places that have nothing to do with Hezbollah" |
no its not...idiot
im sorry about your friend...but you are just as blindly anti-jew hating as anyone else...dont come on here and pretend to be objective about this situation
Quote : | "et's see how your pussy self would feel if America took two soldiers from Mexico and they came and put every single sombreros in you and your mother's ass." |
and i have no idea what this statement means your moron
[Edited on July 17, 2006 at 11:56 PM. Reason : asdf]7/17/2006 11:54:26 PM |
clalias All American 1580 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "let's see how your pussy self would feel if America took two soldiers from Mexico and they came and put every single sombreros in you and your mother's ass." |
hhahahahaahaha, wtf?7/18/2006 12:02:51 AM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^^again, everyone is telling Israel that it should not weaken the government and also not bomb areas that have nothing to do with Hezbollah.
How am I anti-jew? Who created this thread? I would definitely rather Israel have power than muslim extremists in the world such as Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and whoever of that sort.
I was a big supporter of Israel until it got very ugly. Man, I am talking to friends and family back home in Lebanon and they are telling me that Israel is bombing everywhere, basically destroying Lebanon. They killed members from the army (very unnecessary) and they are just bombing all over. They are killing too many civilians and they killed my friend. Now it's like we want Hezbollah to hurt Israel as well because of what it is doing to the entire country. 7/18/2006 12:25:47 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
well ok...whatever...keep supporting hezbollah...i dont know what the solution is...but i do that supporting hezbollah is going to get lebanon completely blown to bits 7/18/2006 12:28:52 AM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^The hell with Hezbollah, I just want Israel to feel a little pain as well since they are making too many innocent people in Lebanon feel it. 7/18/2006 12:32:07 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
ok..sounds good...they will feel a little...you will feel alot... 7/18/2006 12:36:25 AM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
you are right, obviously Hezbollah should give the soldiers back since it is just as responsible in hurting Lebanon as Israel.
I just feel that Israel could definitely manage to win this without destroying all of Lebanon and hurt the non-related innocent people.
Israel was obviously surprised with the kind of power Hezbollah has and that is just making the war continue. 7/18/2006 12:39:44 AM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/
check this out
***warning - some disturbing pictures
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