1. They start off in cities, and when you get the popups saying "A suitible husband" and you click yes, then one of them dissapears.

2. Eventually they will get them, if you don't want to wait you can always do it in a custom battle.

3. True, but in my games they always come out with those Italian spear militia also.

4. If you own the holy land, don't worry, they will come knocking soon.

5. yeah I agree.

12/2/2006 9:15:58 PM

what's the deal with the pope in this game?

Is there any advantage to having him on your side?

the pope keeps on telling me not to attack other christian nations but they are always attacking me. So, if they attack me i'm going to wipe out their whole existance

i've been excommincated and reconciled so many times in this game already

12/3/2006 10:27:27 AM

Having the pope on your side is HUGE

you can call crusades on neighboring factions that dont have good standing with the pope.

12/3/2006 11:43:59 AM

If you have good standing with the pope, and another catholic faction attacks you, they will be excommunicated.

Then you can crusade on their cities.

Just send an emissary down to Rome and slip the pope a few thou every couple turns, and you will have fantastic relations in no time.

12/3/2006 2:53:47 PM

Or do what I did with the French, stacking half of the College of Cardinals with Frenchmen and then voting in the new French Pope despite opposition from anyone else.

I'm still trying to figure out some of the stupid stuff the Danes do. For example, we were neutral when they suddenly sent a small army of five units (two scout cav plus a few vikings) to lay siege to my capital. Even without reinforcements, I knocked the crap out of them with just three units of mailed knights. Then, when I marched my army up there next turn, they ceded two of their cities in a peace deal to me.

I'm having too much fun with assassins. The Holy Roman Empire lost at least a half dozen diplomats, three priests, a princess, a merchant, and a member of their royal family to my assassin. Still haven't bothered with the English yet because of the Milanese.

12/4/2006 1:26:46 AM

lol that is pretty good, the freakin danes broke a marriage alliance with me.... to no benefit to themselves, they promptly lost a city and will again shortly...


due to logistic issues i had to give up florence (gave away after stripping it) but kept bologna, I just couldn't sustain 2 cities there without being able to get reinforcements there....




stupid freakin mongols.... i finished my crusade then they pop up with at least 12 full stacks all around me...... maybe ill do it slightly differently, take jerusalem, then give it to the hungarians and let them deal with the freakin horde, whilst i escape with my now über crusader general (full stars) to pwn the spainish for a bit.

when that sector is done / cooled off refocus on france, the danes, HRE, and of course, the milanese.....

12/4/2006 9:26:50 AM

^^ how did you stack the college of cardinals? how did you get that mane cardinals in the first place

12/4/2006 9:50:11 AM

Kinda a touch of luck involved, but I made sure to create a priest and put one in each city I own, coverting the populace. Also immediately built at least the first two levels of churches in each city. Chased down the occasional heretic as well. I think these sorts of actions help improve the chances that your priests will increase their piety and thus get upgraded to cardinal status as the old ones keel over.

12/4/2006 10:49:43 AM

I had two priests down in north africa converting muslim to christian, and one of them ended up turning into a cardinal. Just now though, the other priest died. I dont know if that was because of old age or assasinated.

12/4/2006 10:57:42 AM

cathedrals and huge cathedrals help you recruit very good priests aka bishops, one or 2 heretics later and you have a cardinal, my man just became pope and i plan on using it to my full advantage

12/5/2006 10:02:09 AM

i love it when my pope excommunicates 2 of my enemies.... ! that and spy's opening the gates!

bordeaux, rehiems, venice, and one other german held city all fell to me within the first turn of their excomm....

factions i have wiped out - scotland, portugal

12/6/2006 1:46:36 PM

the Mongols are rediculous in this game

they already have almost the entire eastern part of the map

luckily i have an alliance with them, but i don't know how long that will last

12/6/2006 1:52:31 PM

Quote :

"cathedrals and huge cathedrals help you recruit very good priests aka bishops, one or 2 heretics later and you have a cardinal, my man just became pope and i plan on using it to my full advantage"

What you mean with the heretics? Assasinating them or what?

12/6/2006 1:52:59 PM

denouncing/killing them with your priest/bishop/cardinal

12/6/2006 3:14:59 PM

You can do that with them?

Sweet

12/6/2006 4:31:17 PM

Playing with the Regnum Dei mod, with some house rules.

Still annoyed with the passive AI bug and some other things the patch is supposed to fix, but til then having a great time.

Can't wait for the patch though...

12/6/2006 5:18:30 PM

Is it still the case that the AI will forget what it was doing if you get seiged, save/quit, load the game, and the seiging army goes away?

12/6/2006 5:21:17 PM

No, wasn't that a RTW bug that was fixed?

This problem is with passive AI on the battle map. Either the AI army will never move from it's original position, even when it is attacking...or it'll move to engage but when you fire on it with ranged weapons it will stop and stay there forever.

It only happens rarely,usually on sieges, but it's still there and can ruin battles.

12/7/2006 12:24:39 PM

^ I dunno. Last time I had a castle besieged by the AI, I had about seven units of Italian Militia and Italian Spear Militia manning seige towers and pouring out onto my battlements. This despite having archers pouring fire into their ranks.

12/7/2006 12:48:05 PM

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68607&page=1

big list of bugs and glitches...

12/7/2006 1:36:51 PM

ohhhh yea, cannon balls skip on the ground....love it

12/7/2006 9:37:55 PM

nothing like seeing a flaming bombard cannon round smash through a big column of enemy troops... ~15 casualties per hit.... demoralized them something fierce! English standoff tactics work pretty well, retinue longbow men and Sherwood archers pwn, even pwn most heavy infantry as well... sharpened stakes prevent them from being run down head on by calvary

12/11/2006 9:59:34 AM

Is there a cannon (single ball) that specializes in attacking infantry?

And what building do you need for sherwood archers?

12/11/2006 10:28:33 AM

anyone have this and running it smoothly at high graphics settings on Vista?

12/11/2006 10:51:46 AM

for sherwood archers, you need to be England, have the full archery tree constructed, and at least a Master Woodsmen Guild. (first one doesn't give the archers)

12/11/2006 12:27:01 PM

can you have more than one guild in a settlement

12/11/2006 3:31:58 PM

not from what i've seen

explorer's guild seems to be most pointless..... afaik

factions i have wiped out - scotland, portugal, milan

have france and HRE on the ropes

[Edited on December 11, 2006 at 3:37 PM. Reason : add]

12/11/2006 3:33:06 PM

So I was looking over the cities I could call a crusade on, and I noticed that the mongols have settled down. But it doesnt seem like their armies diminished like they would have in RTW Barbarian invasion. They would have to go through 3/4 cities in a straight line to get to my territory so they arnt a threat as of yet. And I figure I would want to give them a good gut shot before I ran into them at full strenght, So I figured, what the hell, and called a crusade on them.

Only thing is.....I dont want to go over there......they are scarey....and I cant count on the other crusading armies for backup all the time....

So, how long do I have to join the crusade until I lose favor?

12/11/2006 4:50:23 PM

Yeah, don't go over there for a while, the Mongols will take over huge areas, they don't lose their armies when they settle down.

They do seem to get weaker over time (although they will be tough for a while).

12/11/2006 5:02:57 PM

Will I lose favor if I dont join the crusade?

12/11/2006 5:59:32 PM

Yeah but don't worry about it.

Or go on crusade with a terrible general and crappy units, with no intention to really succeed.

12/11/2006 7:08:40 PM

9 dismounted feudal knights, 2 cannons, 3 knights of templar, 3 mounted knights, and a really good general, against abunch of archers I cant get too....sweet!

I am trying to get rid of my dismounted knights...there upkeep >> armored swordsmen.

Gonna try to get the mongols in there place

12/11/2006 7:55:45 PM

you have 10 turns to join the crusade

12/11/2006 9:38:10 PM

I'm also noticing that I haven't gotten any princesses, even when I turn down "potential suitor" options, they don't seem to appear. I've checked the agent list and my capitol, nothing.

Not that it matters...as Spain I've taken over the Moors, the Milanese, Sicily, France, and the HRE, and Denmark just conceded to become my vassal state. All of Africa west of Egypt is mine, all of Italy (minus the Papal states is mine), and currently I have 9 out of 13 seats in the College of Cardinals...as soon as this old fuck dies, I'll be Pope, too.

Does anyone know any details about the introduction of the New World? I know you're supposed to be able to get over there once you get seafaring ships (which I hadn't yet), but the manual gives no hint about how you're supposed to use them to go shoot Aztecs.

12/13/2006 1:42:59 PM

What does it take to make a faction a vassal?

I think at a certain turn you get a notice about the new world. Not sure though, I havent gotten that far yet.

12/13/2006 1:45:19 PM

They submitted to me because I had them down to one city (Oslo) that would have been a pain in the ass for me to get an army to, so I offered them 50,000 florins (I have plenty ) and they said, "Great!"

Based on previous experience they wouldn't have accepted if they'd had another couple of cities, or if I hadn't thrown money at them.

I can't tell what the benefit of having them as a vassal really is. I have no direct control over anything they do...I assume it just means that they won't ever declare war on me again.

12/13/2006 3:25:36 PM

Um, how the hell did this army get there. Its full of seige units, 4 archers, and 1 general...easy to kill, but wtf?

[Edited on December 13, 2006 at 3:44 PM. Reason : ddd]

12/13/2006 3:43:33 PM

Probably a crusading army.

If a crusade succeeds all the armies on the way will just drop out of "crusade mode" right in the middle of someone elses territory. If they don't want to attack you they will usually make their way back home, but it will take them forever.

12/13/2006 3:56:06 PM

This crusade thing with the Mongols isnt turning out as well as I would have liked. Everyone declared war on them so they decided to invade everyone.

12/13/2006 4:04:36 PM

turimids!! that will give that mongol empire some problems.... meanwhile ill clean up west europe, france is down to 2 cities, HRE down to 1, just waiting on spain to get excommed again so i can finish them off...

12/14/2006 9:20:39 AM

turimids?

12/14/2006 10:08:28 AM

another invasion... war elephants with cannon etc.

12/14/2006 11:52:05 AM

So, I am crusading vs the Mongols to get to 1.

But by the time I get near them they have taken a citadel at 2.

So I vear off to head for 2 because I want to take a strong fortress to hold off the mongols.

But before I get there my full army deserts like crazy and I am left with the english units at 3. I have 1 cannon, ONE!.

So I recruit as many archers as I can.

And so went, the best seige I have ever had. I had to conserve my cannon fire, I had to work my way around the citadels walls to get to the last 3rd gate. I had to move quickly because the time was going to run out.




I must say, that defending a citadel will probably be an art form. I mean, technically you only have to get inside the first wall, and then you can make your way all the way to the center by walking around on the walls.

But man, that was a hell of a fight. And I have a hell of a fight in the future to keep the mongols from taking the city.

12/14/2006 12:47:14 PM

yeah, i had a crusade to take Jerusalem, i did but then a dozen huge stacks of Mongols pop up so i give it to Hungary which is also on the crusade... and get my now pretty good army the hell out of dodge.... (very few archers) next two turns see the Hungarian crusading army get annihilated and the Mongols set Jerusalem as their capitol, they then took out Egypt, and made vassals out of Turkey and the Moors....

they are gonna fix the wall exploit in the next patches apparently... you can hold sections of wall and prevent them from continuing just by holding the next section between the towers, prevents them from passing through the tower to the next section...

[Edited on December 14, 2006 at 1:19 PM. Reason : s]

12/14/2006 1:17:20 PM

The advisor told me that if I take a settlement while on a crusade that isnt the crusades target, then my units wont desert. She lied. All those units I have in that city are deserting

12/14/2006 1:28:32 PM

you can't stay there long at all, capture, grow a quick garrison and move on fast, I've taken cities that where not the crusade target before, you just have to do it quickly....

12/14/2006 1:59:34 PM

That's the Mongols biggest weakness, they aren't good at siege battles because their best units are all cavalry, so you stick your elite infantry on the walls (or on siege towers if you are doing the attacking), and they will have trouble fighting them.

^^ If you leave a few units there as a garrison, and move the rest of your crusading army along, then the ones you left will drop out of "crusade mode" and become regular troops. I think that's what the advisor was getting at.

[Edited on December 14, 2006 at 2:17 PM. Reason : sdsd]

12/14/2006 2:16:10 PM

Its kind of pointless for me even to think that I could leave the citadel. That army is so worthless its ridiculous. I might as well bunker down and train more troops, I have basically infanite monies.

12/14/2006 2:31:10 PM

shit you can always rejoin the crusade i bet... (i think) within the time limit

12/14/2006 2:37:53 PM

If you have your general abandon the crusade, the next turn(in the city you conquered), your units will become regular units again. Wish I knew this before half my army deserted

12/14/2006 3:01:23 PM