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"just b/c they competed w/ us a lot of yall wanna hand them the game... fuck that, elbow down, we should be 2-0 "

1-1

and they wanted it more and whipped our ass on goalline, one team is definitely shittier than the other when a team goes from having negative yardage in the half to driving 96 yards for a TD

and no, we do not have the right to call another team, especially a team that just beat us at home, shitty, no we do not my friend


we are one of the few without a win against an Div1A school

[Edited on September 10, 2006 at 12:27 PM. Reason : d]

9/10/2006 12:26:39 PM

dont agree with that first statement...they had negative yards in the first place either because a)they suck, or b)state's d was better at the time. its not like akron stepped up and showed us how to play football. the fact is that both teams looked like shit out there, with occasional plays that were good, and i dont see why people say we didnt "deserve" to win.

9/10/2006 12:40:15 PM

people were throwing bottles as the akron team headed for the tunnel they were hit by a barrage of bottles. they came back out on the field then left again.

i hope the team/fans dont stay too upset. it wasnt an acc game and the only thing we really lost out on were hopes of a bcs at large which i dont think anybody was expecting anyway.

9/10/2006 12:42:48 PM

Quote :

"http://ncsu1.info/inornot.php"

one problem with that website.... the refs for the Akron game were NOT the same refs as the UNC game with TA...

[Edited on September 10, 2006 at 5:31 PM. Reason : .]

9/10/2006 5:31:46 PM

thats not the point. the point is there is massive conspiracy against NCSU.











cough.

9/10/2006 5:35:53 PM

maybe you can conclude he's down if that picture was taken from directly on the goaline...even if they slowed it down in instant replay they might not have seen it like that...just face it, we played NOT TO LOSE instead of PLAYING TO WIN

9/10/2006 6:20:10 PM

that's not true, we scored a with like <2 minutes left, our D just fucked up, what u want em to do

9/10/2006 6:23:44 PM

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"NCSU must be the most unlucky program in I-AA"

you lose all credibilty

[Edited on September 10, 2006 at 6:25 PM. Reason : .]

9/10/2006 6:25:06 PM

really? almost every game we dont play to win, we play conservative in the first half trying to make sure we have atleast a chance in the 2nd half. the way we played these first 2 games will not win a game once we get to acc competition. just because we scored with 2 minutes left doesnt mean anything, it was akron's defense...like someone said earlier, you cant let them go 2 drives in a row for td's and 150+ yards in under 3 minutes...blame the entire defense, where was the line when we needed pressure? where was the qb spy watching the qb to make sure he doesnt run for 20 yards? blame goes to the players and the coaching staff for the plays called

9/10/2006 6:28:05 PM

we didn't play not to lose, we tried to pass quite a bit but our QB is awful.

9/10/2006 6:47:39 PM

Rick Page

9/10/2006 7:14:18 PM

anyone have the link for the pack pass video of this game?

9/10/2006 10:17:27 PM

hmmm thats wierd... how come reggie wasnt down then?

[Edited on September 10, 2006 at 10:22 PM. Reason : )]

9/10/2006 10:17:49 PM

^^ there wasn't one.. it was espnU

^

Quote :

"Ball Declared Dead ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle or declare it dead: [...] b. When any part of the runner's body, except his hand or foot, touches the ground or when the runner is tackled or otherwise falls and loses possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his body, except his hand or foot."

^x9 i swear i saw somewhere that said that



[Edited on September 10, 2006 at 10:21 PM. Reason : deleteing.]

9/10/2006 10:20:20 PM

What is really shitty about all this is that this game COULD have decided our postseason fate.

So now if we finish 6-6 and possibly should have won this game, we won't go bowling because of it.

But who am I kidding we will be lucky to win 4 games this year.

9/10/2006 10:20:55 PM

gg

[Edited on September 10, 2006 at 10:22 PM. Reason : gg]

9/10/2006 10:21:27 PM

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"^^ there wasn't one.. it was espnU"

according to Prick Pride, the scoreboard video is up on the pack pass site.

9/10/2006 10:24:17 PM

^^ At least we did move the ball somewhat at the end and maybe it will give stone some confidence for the next game... but I dont see us getting to a bowl at this point.... but we can always hope

9/10/2006 10:25:01 PM

^^ hmm i think someone i know has that.. i'll check tomorrow and get the link if it hasn't been posted by now

(i don't check packpride)

i thought because it was on ESPNU they couldn't show it online but maybe not

9/10/2006 10:33:18 PM

Quote :

"if you have to provide that long of an explanation (which I will not read)"

haha

leave it to the retard to make the best post in the this thread

9/11/2006 12:22:47 AM

Stone is worse than Drew Bledsoe

9/11/2006 1:06:17 AM

Quote :

"our D just fucked up"

yes....our D was the problem here....

9/11/2006 1:19:00 AM

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"best post in the this thread "

9/11/2006 1:30:04 AM

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"there isn't any point of arguing about if he was down or not.......the bottom line is we lost, its in the books, and nothing is gonna change that"

I'm sorry your parents were murdered ... but we're not really going to waste the time to investigate it.

they're dead, nothings going to change it, sucks to be you.


have a good life.


see what I did there?

[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 1:32 AM. Reason : .]

9/11/2006 1:30:53 AM

Are you still on this?

Just let it go. The dude was in, we lost the game. Maybe this means we'll actually take a step towards improving for next week, because we're pretty much fucked if we don't.

For all we know the guy getting into the end zone could be a blessing in disguise.

(I don't actually believe this is the case, but I'd rather blind optomism than this "OMG HE WASN'T IN EVEN THOUGH EVERY VIDEO REPLAY SHOWS HE WAS" bullshit)

[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 1:48 AM. Reason : .]

9/11/2006 1:48:31 AM

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"i dont see why people say we didnt "deserve" to win"

Oh, I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with the first half.

3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.
3 and out.

I think we got 2 first downs in the first half, but only one was earned. The other came off a penalty. We deserved to lose. Hopefully this game will serve as motivation to get things done in future games but something tells me that we will probably go winless in the conference this year.

I'm just sad because at the beginning of this year I had unbelievably low expectations for the pack and the last two games showed me that even those expectations were far too high.

[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 7:37 AM. Reason : -]

9/11/2006 7:36:31 AM

Our first first down of the game (through a non-penalty) came with 10 minutes left in the second quarter.

9/11/2006 8:36:24 AM

lol well yesterday the panthers didn't get a first down until the fourth quarter.

god that michael vick is golden.

9/11/2006 9:57:34 AM

Anyone else starting to feel like the next upgrade to carter-finley should be CAMERAS MOUNTED INSIDE THE PYLONS.... And maybe, just maybe we should hire videographers for the goalline as well.... This beaten by inches shit is getting old! I'm not making excuses for the poor overall play of our team, but official error is really wearing on my nerves. If they can't get the call right, then they shouldn't get paid (although I'm sure the Rams Club would make sure they don't go unpaid).

Sorry for the rant guys, but I'm just a little frustrated/disappointed with the overall performance by the team/zebras on Saturday.

9/11/2006 10:07:46 AM

Quote :

"Anyone else starting to feel like the next upgrade to carter-finley should be CAMERAS MOUNTED INSIDE THE PYLONS a decent football team?"

9/11/2006 10:09:04 AM

ya it sucks so bad because games are so important in college football. i know its very unlikely but in the event we were to win out we would look back at that call as the reason we arent in the bcs maybe even national championship and that would be devastating.

9/11/2006 10:09:53 AM

sarcasm i hope

9/11/2006 10:14:41 AM

We need to worry about not beating ourselves all the time, but wouldn't it be nice to have those pylon cameras for instances just like what we witnessed on Saturday? Wonder where one can find them...Google had nothing.

9/11/2006 10:17:11 AM

i'm going to give my two cents as objectively as possible, and without having read past page 2 on this thread.

i feel like if his elbow had made contact with the ground, it would have been VERY noticable on the video (his elbow would have stuck and dragged) it would be very noticable (especially in the video) because there would be a slight or substantial halt in forward progress of his elbow, since he was diving, and not elbow crawling in. This leads me to believe the photo is inconclusive.

9/11/2006 10:22:34 AM

i think we should use that money for "how to snap the ball" practice videos instead of cameras.

9/11/2006 10:23:11 AM

might as well pick up the "How to Cover a Deep Reciever" and "Passing: The Basics" videos in the same series while we are at it.

9/11/2006 10:42:51 AM

then maybe we can read a book called "Setting Yourself Up For Disappointment: How Not to Have Unrealistic Expectations About NC State's Football Program"

9/11/2006 10:48:26 AM

The sad thing is, I could write that book, and still be just as dissapointed with every loss.

Even when I know better, I can't help it.

9/11/2006 10:50:53 AM

Greensboro News & Record ran a story wth the picture...

http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060911/NEWSREC0105/609110310

Quote :

"N.C. State disputes ruling By Jim young Staff Writer RALEIGH -- Three years ago it was T.A.'s knee. This time it's Kennedy's elbow. Once again, N.C. State finds itself disputing a last-second goal line ruling by the officials. Once again, the Wolfpack wonders whether a loss, could have -- or should have -- been a win. With 3.5 seconds left in Akron's 20-17 win at N.C. State on Saturday, Zips running back Dennis Kennedy swept to the left, stumbled and reached the ball across the goal line. The play was ruled a touchdown. Wolfpack coach Chuck Amato wasn't so sure. Amato followed the officials up a ramp under the north stands to ask why the play was not reviewed. "I was told there was not a buzzer on it, saying it was being reviewed," Amato said. In the college replay system, officials up in the press box area review each play on video and buzz the officials on the field if a play needs to be considered for possible reversal. The last play apparently did not merit a buzzer. Perhaps it should have. Although video replays showed Kennedy got the ball across the line just before his knee touched, photos have since focused on a different body part -- Kennedy's elbow. His right elbow appears to be touching the ground before he extends the ball across the goal line. The NCAA rulebook states a player is considered down: "When any part of the runner's body, except his hand or foot, touches the ground." Amato said he plans to discuss the play further with the ACC league office, but doesn't expect anything to come from the discussions. "The game is over," he said. Nor was Amato interested in getting himself into any trouble by providing his opinion about the call and the lack of a review. "I can't really comment on this," he said. "I wish I could, but I can't." "

9/11/2006 10:51:24 AM

things he could comment on however is why he cant keep our players under control and keep them from getting a penalty that gave Akron a head start at winning the game

he can answer that

9/11/2006 10:53:42 AM

Akron...away team...scores at the end of the game...no review

NCSU (@ UNC)...away team...scores at the end of the game...review...call reversed

9/11/2006 10:53:46 AM

ITS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST US!

9/11/2006 10:57:08 AM

OMG isnt it always?

9/11/2006 10:57:30 AM

so neither of you guys think the last play shouldve been reviewed considering it decided the game

k

9/11/2006 11:00:05 AM

THE LIBERAL MEDIA IS KEEPING US DOWN!

9/11/2006 11:00:45 AM

no it should have

but i cant do anything about it sitting on the computer

and i doubt the ncaa or whatever is going to admit they were wrong

9/11/2006 11:03:12 AM

well at least YOU agree hunter that the play should have at least been reviewed

thats all i was hoping for...if they reviewed it and said he got in, so be it...at least they reviewed it

9/11/2006 11:04:01 AM

thats a quality 1st picture as well

this however (and most are going to disagree with me here possibly) that this is a much easier call, than the TA one at unc... well, should have been a much easier call for the refs to make

9/11/2006 11:05:51 AM

it really shouldnt have come down to the last 3 seconds

thats why we should all just tuck our tail between our legs and drop this, we just look like idiots complaining about it

9/11/2006 11:08:43 AM

well the photographs are a helluva lot clearer

at least in the UNC game there was some sort of review even though we lost the game

in the akron game, if he gets into the endzone, they win...if he doesnt, we win...seems like the most important play of the game to review

and the fact that the game was close has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they shouldve reviewed a play that close with that much impact/effect on the game

9/11/2006 11:09:18 AM