So how would you rate this one?^^^^

6/28/2007 12:33:01 PM

Crazy aviation nitpick time.

The #1 thing which annoyed me about this movie was the Joint Strike Fighter. Only the F-35B has VTOL capability, but it doesn't have a gun at all. (Which has always seemed odd since the B is the one slated for USMC use.)

Aside from that, I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. I went into it with extremely low expectations, but getting to see it for free helped alleviate some of that.

6/28/2007 1:11:30 PM

it will have a gun, in pods, under the fuselage, like they had in the movie.... that bit is more or less right.... (i was surprised)

6/28/2007 3:22:02 PM

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"Dear Bruce Willis, What the Shit Man? Do I look like asshole? Because you keep wiping me to the side every chance you get. I mean C'MON! I can't believe you made another "Die Hard" movie without ME...Sgt. Al Fucking Powell. Need I remind you that I was the glue that held the 1st Die Hard movie together. People related to MY story. Need I remind you that without me you'd be a dead mother fucker. Remember I'm the one who shot Karl. Me. I'm the hero of Die Hard. Not you. Granted, I was pissed when I read Die Hard 2 and I only had a cameo role. I remember coming over your house and I trying to stab you with a pocket knife. But when I went to plunge the knife into your chest you easily diarmed me. I just broke down crying and you and Demi made me mint tea. You had your driver send me home. That was nice and I'm sorry about that. I mean how many times do I have to apologize for attempting to kill you. But Damn if you didn't screw around me like whore in Thailand again when Die Hard 3 came out. but remember I called you up and you said, next movie it's me and you. Then you go cast Samuel Jackson. SAM JACKSON! C'mon Dude. I act circles around that guy. Remember my dramatic monologue when I explained why I worked a desk and I said "I shot a kid." That's drama. That's emotion. I am the master of acting. But yet all you see on every bus is "Yippee Yai Yeah M...." It should read "I shot a kid.-Die Hard 4" Look I just read The Secret and it says I shouldn't hold a grudge, but damn it's real hard with you. You didn't even show up when me and Deavoreaux White, the dude who played you Limo Driver in Die Hard 1 did True West in Burbank at Senor Tacos. That was a great show. Holly Mclane showed up and so did the guy who played Mr. Takagi but he was drunk and very rude to the mexican waitstaff. Anyway I digress. Basically I guess it was bullcrap when you said "Welcome to the Party Pal." Because You and I are not pals and your party is for 2 people. You and Your Ego! Fuck You and Goodnight! Sincerly, Reginald Vel Johnson "Al Powell from Die Hard""

6/28/2007 4:35:31 PM

The worst of the four, but still a lot of fun.

If not for the previously established ethos of McClane, this movie could have been any generic action thriller, with any burly actor put into the role. Basically, I don't think it was "Die Hardy" enough.

Oh, and did anyone else catch Agent Johnson? (allusion to the first one)

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 5:17 PM. Reason : ]

6/28/2007 5:13:16 PM

^ i agree for the most part, and thats why i think they put the all the little things like the agent johnson line (and i think most people got that one) in there, otherwise it really wouldnt have felt like a die hard movie.

there was one line later in the movie refering to one of the older ones and only me, my friend, and 1 other person in the audience got it, it was pretty funny but i cant remember what the hell it was, i had just rewatched the first 3 on sunday and wouldnt have gotten it otherwise.

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 6:19 PM. Reason : $$$]

6/28/2007 6:10:34 PM

Got back from it this late afternoon. A pretty good flick imo, although all of the in-jokes flew over my head.

It's been a while since I've seen the first one and I've never seen the second and third ones, so it's not really possible for me to make a good comparison. But standing on its own merits I think this movie is worth at least one viewing, maybe two.

7/1/2007 2:23:57 AM

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"^i noticed that too. actually my whole group noticed that. I really think it had to do with them trying to rid out some of the F*bombs. Cause you could here justin long speak when they were focused on bruce, but it wasn't what justin was saying when you saw him in the background. There were a lot of times where the F*bomb should have been heard and it kinda seemed like they weeved around it but the editing is good for the most part."

yeah, near the beginning John is calling, I guess the main badguy, a "dickhead" over the police radio and you can tell it was edited in, I guess it was originally "fuckhead"

7/1/2007 2:54:32 AM

chinese lady gets her ass kicked, she is bloody


she kicks mclain out of the window, she is clean

she turns around to go back to the computers, she is bloody again

haited the jet part

TO MANY FUCKING JOKES ABOUT OLD PEOPLE AND HOW COMPUTERS ANOY THEM

7/1/2007 10:04:01 AM

hehe warlock

the movie was dope to me, and the lil squirrely dude shoulda got more airtime

perfect summer flick

7/1/2007 11:34:38 AM

^ war1ock maybe?

[Edited on July 1, 2007 at 11:51 AM. Reason : not sure but I think it had a 1 in it]

7/1/2007 11:51:31 AM

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"it will have a gun, in pods, under the fuselage, like they had in the movie.... that bit is more or less right.... (i was surprised)"

I know it'll have the ability to support mission-specific gunpods, but the ones in this movie were not underwing pods. They were fired from ports in the wing assembly and upper fuselage behind the cockpit. The A variant has a single port on the right side, but the B variant has no port there (and obviously, no gun) at all.

7/1/2007 4:13:27 PM

Saw it tonight and enjoyed it. The whole daughter getting captured by terrorists bit pissed me off.

7/2/2007 1:00:48 AM

I was pissed that Carl Winslow wasn't in it.

I lolled when Apple dude was like "Are you okay? I scraped my knee and my asthma is acting up a bit."

btw, when Bruce Willis was in the final "complex" I guess (I think it was around that frozen room), he threw some random henchman into what seemed like a bunch of spinning razors who obviously got chopped up. wtf where those things?

Axelay, I'm not doubting you or anything, but how do you know that was an F-35B? I'm pretty sure all they said was that they were sending an F-35.

Hitting the helicopter with a spray from a hydrant AND hitting it with the car = a little over the top

wtf was with that Asian chick? He fucking killed her like 50 times and she still wouldn't die. He smacked her with a car at at least 20 mph and she wasn't even bruised. Then he pinned her agains the wall and she was still climbing all over the place and kicking him and stuff.

7/2/2007 8:46:03 AM

I thought it was a very fun and enjoyable movie. I like it better than part 2. But I have enjoyed and liked every Die Hard film. They could have left out the ending sequence with the F-35. But overall I think it was a great summer action movie.


III

7/2/2007 9:06:30 AM

I was surprised and actually liked it. I think its better than the second one too. Like most die hards its over the top, but it was good entertainment. Jumping onto the plane was a little much, but so was surfing on a dump truck in the last one.

7/2/2007 9:11:57 AM

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"wtf was with that Asian chick? He fucking killed her like 50 times and she still wouldn't die. He smacked her with a car at at least 20 mph and she wasn't even bruised. Then he pinned her agains the wall and she was still climbing all over the place and kicking him and stuff."

Yeah I had the same problem with this movie. She should have been hurting from getting hit by the car, and a at a bare minimum she should not have survived when the car crashed into the elevator shaft. I guess you have to chalk it up to some kind of mystic kung fu shit.

7/2/2007 9:15:24 AM

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"Axelay, I'm not doubting you or anything, but how do you know that was an F-35B? I'm pretty sure all they said was that they were sending an F-35."

There are 3 versions of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The A version is slated for Air Force use, the B version is slated for USMC use, and the C version is slated for Navy use. Out of these 3, only the B version has the VTOL engine. Because of space accommodations for the fan behind the cockpit, the B version can't house an integrated gun.

You can tell this is a B version because you see the fuselage doors behind the cockpit open up to allow the forward VTOL fan to have intake. The rear exhaust also pivots downward about 90 degrees. The A and C can't do this.

7/2/2007 1:28:35 PM

needed more F bombs and need more blood. When guys got shot, there should have been blood like in the other die hards. And when that guy got knocked into that grinder thing blood should have gone everywhere like in Die Hard 2 when that guy got knocked into the plane engine.

McClane didn't seem like he used his wit as much and was just a raw "coming right at you" kind of guy in this movie. Maybe he's gotten grittier over time.

7/2/2007 1:32:33 PM

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"btw, when Bruce Willis was in the final "complex" I guess (I think it was around that frozen room), he threw some random henchman into what seemed like a bunch of spinning razors who obviously got chopped up. wtf where those things?"

I assume it was supposed to part of the cooling mechanism for the mainframes - although I've tried dispatching henchmen by throwing them into the cooling tower for my Xbox 360 with mixed results.

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"McClane didn't seem like he used his wit as much and was just a raw "coming right at you" kind of guy in this movie. Maybe he's gotten grittier over time."

The movie soundtrack station on XM radio has been airing an interview with the director several times a day all week. He said that one of his big priorities was the he had to present a darker and grittier McClane due to the events of the first 3 movies as well as the fact that his life is so shitty even after being a hero.

7/2/2007 2:31:57 PM

The part where McClane and Gabriel talked on the radio for the first time bugged me. He told McClane that if he killed the hacker he would get a ton of money. Why didn't McClane just shoot into the air and say that he was dead - he would have gotten paid and people wouldn't be trying to blow him up anymore.

Why didn't he ever give the kid a gun? When they were in the power plant he killed a henchman with his own gun, then threw it down and picked up his Sig instead of giving one of them to the hacker. Sure enough, 2 minutes later somebody was trying to kill McClane and the kid couldn't do shit.

7/2/2007 4:10:33 PM

i went and saw it last night over in wakefield i found it to be pretty entertaining
kind of missed the last scene because these morbidly obese black women decided to come wobbling into the theatre completely distracting my eyes
overall it was pretty good

7/5/2007 12:53:11 PM

I can't believe anyone with half a brain liked this shitpile of a movie.

7/5/2007 11:29:15 PM

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/live_free_or_die_hard/

yeah fuck those 108 out of 139 reviewers, and those 296 out of 314 users

7/5/2007 11:31:20 PM

note I never claimed there was a shortage of people with less than half a brain.

7/5/2007 11:50:37 PM

Nacho >>>>>>>>> Nearly everyone else

7/6/2007 12:14:11 AM

saw it today- way the fuck over the top and i was expecting it to be over the top but fuck! that shit with the jet! wtf.

7/6/2007 1:58:15 AM

bruce willis sure can drive an 18-wheeler

7/6/2007 9:31:50 AM

^ and a helicopter

7/6/2007 2:22:07 PM

yeah and that Harrier pilot is pretty good as well lol

7/6/2007 2:24:02 PM

I almost yelled "John McClane can't fly a helicopter!" when I saw that.

Although there was no wifebeater, the movie sure featured a lot of women getting the shit beat out of them.

7/6/2007 3:04:40 PM

saw it, its not the same, i guess you could consider it "entertainment value"

7/6/2007 3:59:33 PM

not a harrier....

an f-35b lightening II multi-mission aircraft

and i agree axelay they did have the gun in the wrong area.... (why did i think it was on the bottom...?)

7/6/2007 4:00:34 PM

AHAH

http://tv-links.co.uk/show.do/4/4929
stage6 divx ftw
shitty cam but streaming

[Edited on July 11, 2007 at 4:28 PM. Reason : lol]

7/11/2007 4:27:22 PM

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"Crazy aviation nitpick time. The #1 thing which annoyed me about this movie was the Joint Strike Fighter. Only the F-35B has VTOL capability, but it doesn't have a gun at all. (Which has always seemed odd since the B is the one slated for USMC use.) Aside from that, I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. I went into it with extremely low expectations, but getting to see it for free helped alleviate some of that."

That's the #1 thing that annoys you? Not the incredibly unrealistic Movie-OS hacking scenes, or the fact that when these uberleet hackers saw their screen twitch (which it would never do), they all suddenly decided that the solution must be to hit the DELETE key? (which they would never do) That's fucking brilliant, let me tell you. Or those 'hackers' throwing around technical terms as if they knew what they meant in a context that was completely wrong. Or the goddamn ridiculous premise that somehow hackers can reroute every fucking gas pipe in the eastern US into one fucking location!! Nobody would ever design a system that way or set controls for such a thing to EVER be possible.

It's like some producer who doesn't even know the first thing about computer systems read an alarmist article on cybercrime and decided to make the most ridiculous retarded movie ever. I tried to put up with it at first but it got so ridiculous that I was literally laughing out loud at things these guys did/said because of the utter ridiculousness of it. I know it's Die Hard, which means over the top action, but the entire movie was such a huge departure from reality I could barely stand it.

This movie was to cyberterrorism what 'The Day After Tomorrow' was to global warming, completely ridiculous and terrible movies.

For once I'm gonna have to agree with El Nachó:

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"I can't believe anyone with half a brain liked this shitpile of a movie."

and judging by how many people liked it in here there definitely isn't a "shortage of people with less than half a brain."

[Edited on July 11, 2007 at 7:08 PM. Reason : ]

7/11/2007 6:54:06 PM

When I saw this I expected a little bit of over the top action, but it was just too much. Hitting a chick at 25 mph and then driving through a building before pinning her against the wall of an elevator shaft after beating the shit out of her and she's only a little bloody? Come on. Then when the f-35 shot the fuck out of McClean's truck and he avoid getting shredded by ducking down? Yeah they took a lot of the action in this movie way too far, and don't even get me started on all of the random technology bullshit they were throwing out there.

Still a decent movie if you can see it for free though.

7/11/2007 7:31:22 PM

the whole movie played like a video game

7/12/2007 2:35:28 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRnH_rRnBAw

7/12/2007 7:44:14 PM

You have picked up a MEDICAL KIT. You receive 100 life.

7/12/2007 7:55:28 PM

A jet coming down to 10 feet to shoot a truck with GUNS!

I mean come on.

They threw that in there just to let mclain surprise the bad guy one more time.

7/12/2007 8:03:16 PM

saw it tonight. i thought the acting wasn't too great. plus the bad guy wasn't good at being bad (maybe it's because i kept seeing him as the porn guy in The Girl Next Door).

good action though. 'B' overall

7/15/2007 11:43:28 PM

Good call, I couldn't place how I knew him.

7/15/2007 11:51:48 PM

^^and I thought he was a good bad guy, had a good powerful/evil look in his eyes. And yeah I knew I recognized him from somewhere, but not enough to typecast him.

7/17/2007 10:21:53 PM

this was crazier than mission impossible. its not supposed to be realistic though, just entertaining. And yes, gas line can be rerouted for obvious reasons. If any one can be rerouted I would assume a hacker could fix all of them to an overlapping reroute even though its probably porgrammed so that can't happen.

10/13/2007 2:10:22 PM

^I'm not a natural gas engineer, but I'll bet there's a lot more to it than just what computerized monitoring stations will allow. I'm sure that there are means built into the distribution network that will shut down a line if, say, a mechanical pressure gauge starts to read too high. There's plenty of ways to build safeguards into a system that don't rely upon computerized oversight. In fact, the more safeguards you have that do not rely upon the same mechanism, the smaller the chance of catastrophic failure. Conversely, if you use the same type of safety systems to kill some process, they can all be made to fail in the exact same manner, which makes it much easier to disable the entire thing.

If a system like this had been built and then it went kaplooie, heads would roll and people would get fired real quick after the impending investigation reveals that the system was designed in such a way as to allow anybody with a Mac to take it completely down. There's a good chance that whoever did the design work would be stripped of their license for incompetence, and probably be arrested if people died as a result of the failure.

In short, incompetence on this scale would not be tolerated, EVER.

[Edited on October 13, 2007 at 4:16 PM. Reason : blah]

10/13/2007 4:12:20 PM