whatever this whole situation is stupid as shit, and is going to result in a complete mess come game time. just another thing to add to my list of fun shit that has been ruined while attending ncsu.

9/29/2006 12:51:46 AM

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"I’d gladly pay for that shit if i didn't have to deal with dist'b... got to go into a standard gate... was able to avoid the student gate lines... could stay in the tailgating lot 10 minutes prior to kick off... had a guaranteed SEAT with my friends for every game.. Yeah, I’ll pay... If you don't want to pay then you can just do Dist'b for sections that aren't sold.. If you really care about going it would be worth paying for tickets"

I hated this concept as a student, and still hate it after years of forking over $$ for my LTRs.

EVERY student pays a fee in their tuition for the right to go to games. If they want to charge for season tickets, fine; but they better damn well get rid of the fee if they do so. I hated the whole concept of the SWPC when I was a student, and this is just a variant on that idea...

Yes, other schools charge for tickets... but most don't charge $119/year to each student for the "chance" to get tickets to each game and then charge them even more if they actually get them.

Students are already paying more to support Athletics than they are for transportation. And while I'm not opposed to that system; if each student is contributing that much to Athletics, they should have an equal shot at tickets.

9/29/2006 1:03:17 AM

i have friends at penn state and nebraska, both schools (and i'm sure a lot more) charge for student tickets and they are given out on a yearly basis.

i'll take our system, thanks.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:56 AM. Reason : grammah]

9/29/2006 1:55:00 AM

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"I’d gladly pay for that shit if i didn't have to deal with dist'b... got to go into a standard gate... was able to avoid the student gate lines... could stay in the tailgating lot 10 minutes prior to kick off... had a guaranteed SEAT with my friends for every game.. Yeah, I’ll pay... If you don't want to pay then you can just do Dist'b for sections that aren't sold.. If you really care about going it would be worth paying for tickets"

you can just pay for tickets and not have to deal with the dist'b . . . it is called buying season tickets, which are $265. They had a whole bunch of em for sale in the beginning of August.

9/29/2006 7:08:31 AM

^ Hey, wiseguy, those *aren't in the student section*, the Nebraska/Penn State ones are.

Makes a wee difference.

9/29/2006 7:20:10 AM

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"EVERY student pays a fee in their tuition for the right to go to games. If they want to charge for season tickets, fine; but they better damn well get rid of the fee if they do so. I hated the whole concept of the SWPC when I was a student, and this is just a variant on that idea... Yes, other schools charge for tickets... but most don't charge $119/year to each student for the "chance" to get tickets to each game and then charge them even more if they actually get them. Students are already paying more to support Athletics than they are for transportation. And while I'm not opposed to that system; if each student is contributing that much to Athletics, they should have an equal shot at tickets."

I've already posted this 10 times, but I'll do it again to clear it up....your fees DO NOT going to paying for student tickets, student sections, student parking, etc. In fact, the requirement that you pay your fees is only for the purposes of defining what a student is. But athletics is bound by law to spend their fee on items other than student tickets, student sections, student parking. And if you just pay $1 in fee money each year total, you are eligible, as long as that is all that you were charged, so the $119 is not an actual requirement.

Now, I'm agreeing with you though that every student should have an equal opportunity for tickets, which is why there is not a reward system in place for tickets yet

9/29/2006 7:27:30 AM

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"what do think about having separate gates for each section? like...you got to 10A for sec 7, 10B if you want section 8....gate 10 for SEZ, first half of gate 11 for NEZ and last section for 14/15... and we'd just close the gate/lines for the gates that have given out the number of stamps allowed....what do you think about that?"

if they have to do the whole stamp thing, this sounds like the best idea

9/29/2006 7:27:44 AM

motherfuck!

i just tried to claim my ticket, but nothing happened. checked my email and apparently I didnt win the lottery and I'm on the waitlist. my perfect streak is over.

what are the chances of me getting a ticket via the waitlist?

9/29/2006 7:46:39 AM

^^ Totally. It'll de-clutter the lines and give folks who actually like the endzones/section 15 the chance to sit there.

9/29/2006 8:12:10 AM

well, I forwarded that idea on to sg people to see if they want to think about it...but you all are welcome to do the same...sbp@ncsu.edu

9/29/2006 8:34:36 AM

^^^ I'm waitlisted too, and I had a group of like 10 people sign up under me. fuck!

9/29/2006 9:00:41 AM

hell yes, finally got a ticket to see FSU

9/29/2006 9:05:04 AM

Yeah I got waitlisted with a big group too

So much for being a senior huh

9/29/2006 9:07:57 AM

I got my ticket, now its just a matter of deciding when to head out there...

9/29/2006 9:34:39 AM

i got waitlisted too

figures that out of all the games to NOT get tickets for, it'd be this one

9/29/2006 9:36:36 AM

you'll probably get a ticket...since people said that they will be giving up their tickets since they don't want to wait in line

9/29/2006 9:44:05 AM

claim period seems to be broken...

website says its active from early this morning (3am) until tomorrow night, but It will not let me claim a ticket.

9/29/2006 9:57:14 AM

that means you probably didnt win. I had no problem claiming mine. And they seriously should have left numbers on the ticket, cause all of those GAs look awful.

9/29/2006 10:04:40 AM

I can't believe this shit has spread all the way to the Observer. So what if someone pissed in the stands, just shut the fuck up and tell a cop and have that person removed. This whole situation has turned into nothing but campus politics and it's bullshit.

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/colleges/15633266.htm

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"N.C. State aims to keep students from urinating in stadium seats ELIZABETH DUNBAR Associated Press RALEIGH, N.C. - The student sections at college football games are usually a little unruly, but student leaders at North Carolina State University just want the urinating to stop. And the problem isn't just a rowdy bunch of intoxicated fans. Students say efforts aimed at preventing overcrowding in the student section at Carter-Finley Stadium led some fans, worried about being allowed back to their seats, to stay put during the Wolfpack's upset win last weekend against Boston College. "They didn't want to leave the section to go to the bathroom," said student body president Will Quick. Complaints about urinating and vomiting in the stands soon followed. N.C. State uses an online ticketing system that allows students to print their tickets at home. They enter the stadium by scanning a bar code on the ticket, but enter their assigned seating section by showing the ticket to an usher. Quick said many students make copies of the tickets for the main student section so that they can sit with their friends, who may be assigned to a less favorable section. And so when staff and police officers announced the section was full during last weekend's 17-15 win against the Eagles, some students opted to remain in the stands - no matter what. "It was a bad image for N.C. State and for students," said Quick, adding that he was especially disappointed that it happened during Parents' Weekend. "We're not all like that." John Dailey, assistant director for the campus police, said officers have worked hard to assist event staff in preventing overcrowding. "It had been closed off because of safety reasons," Dailey said. "If I were a student and had a legitimate ticket, I would be upset too." A remedy is already in the works for N.C. State's game against Florida State on Oct. 5. "The plan now is to add a hand stamp to designate where a student is eligible, so it's not something you can pass off to someone," said Dick Christy, N.C. State's interim associate athletic director, who oversees ticketing and marketing. He said the plan will likely be finalized Friday or Monday. Students would need the combination of the hand stamp and the ticket to enter their assigned section, Christy said. Quick said the first student ticket-holders who show up at the games will get a stamp that assigns them to the main student section. Those who arrive later will be given end zone or upper level seats, he said. Not everyone is convinced the hand-stamping will ease the problems. Brian Simorka, a senior and board member of the student Wolfpack Club, said he's seen athletics event staff try a variety of methods to manage the student section. There will always be fans who come to football games drunk and unruly, he said. "It's really hard to control all that. I think they do the best job they possibly can with the circumstances," he said. --- AP Sports Writer Aaron Beard contributed to this report."

9/29/2006 10:05:08 AM

oh, that spread a lot further than charlotte...try the east coast

9/29/2006 10:06:51 AM

ah the east coast isn't far.

9/29/2006 10:11:36 AM

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"every system will create "problems" for atleast some people. It is impossible to please everyone."

That is a terrible excuse. It is their job to get it right. No, they can't please everyone, but they should try to please as many as they can. The real problem is that they are not trying to please anyone. Their solutions so far have followed this formula: 1. change everything, 2. wait for next problem.

Here is what I don't get:

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"One of the proposals at the meeting also involved stamping only sections 7 & 8. Unfortunately, this would require a different method of scanning the tickets where the event staff person would have to compare the ticket to the scanner to verify and then pass off only valid section 7 or 8 patrons to the stampers. This creates a significant addition to our processing time and due to our goal of expediting the student entrance process we abandoned this suggestion."

Am I reading this right? "We can match tickets to sections, but that would take too much time." If they wanted to expedite the student entrance process, why did they make us dance for the security staff?
We have all of the tools to make the old way work. Fuck that, let's do something fresh and new WOOHOO!

9/29/2006 10:25:09 AM

so basically, im going to get a shitty GA seat to the FSU game, great

9/29/2006 10:34:57 AM

^it's only shitty if you make it late

^^

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"If they wanted to expedite the student entrance process, why did they make us dance for the security staff?"

Athletics and the committee that made the changes doesn't get to choose how the security is run...campus police does...and while it seems only students have been targeted, they have the same policy at every gate...they have promised to enforce it on everyone from now on, but from seeing the type of weapons they confiscated from students the other day, I won't be complaining about the security any time soon

9/29/2006 10:41:12 AM

are they checking people more strictly as the enter the stadium?

9/29/2006 10:43:38 AM

The only people that this policy pisses off are the ones that want to get drunk before the game. I'm sorry if it's too hard for you to decide between watching your school play in good seats sober and watching your school play in bad seats drunk.

9/29/2006 10:45:18 AM

personally, if I hadn't already volunteered to help at the gates, I woudl drink at home and have a friend bring me to the game...
so I could do both

and yeah, they have been checking people more strictly this year, and it has kept a lot of weapons out of the stadium...there are the normal things like box cutters, fixed blade knives, and then there's random things...one guy had a wine bottle cork screw rigged to be a fixed weapon

9/29/2006 10:54:12 AM

ALL THEY NEEDED WAS COLOR CODED WRIST BANDS LIKE YOU GET AT CONCERTS FOR EACH SECTION!!1111

changed way to much

9/29/2006 10:56:30 AM

ok so i clicked request ticket yesterday...today it says claim ticket but when i clicked it and went to "your tickets" it said i didnt have any in the account?

how do i get one?

honestly i dont plan on using it, i was just gonna try to claim it and give it to a friend or some good looking broad to get brownie points

9/29/2006 10:57:03 AM

are you using IE or Firefox?

9/29/2006 10:57:37 AM

I got a ticket, i'm going to go wait in line now!

And this policy doesn't piss off just the people that want to get drunk. I don't want to go into the stadium an hour and a half before the fucking game. Have a little foresight too, think about the first game of the year in August next year, when its 1000 degrees out. Enjoy sittin in that heat for an hour and a half before the game.

I've yet to hear anyone who is happy about this. I just want to sit in the new endzone(which was practically empty last game) and be left alone with my 50 person block.

9/29/2006 10:58:33 AM

^^^^
no...we wanted wristbands, but because of the fact that wristbands really would slow the lines down, and would still allow people to losely attach them so you could slip them off and hand them to friends, it was shot down by campus safety and operations

^we actually have gotten about the same amount of response supporting it as against it...but of course there's no reason why people would support something on TWW...and they're working on the minor change that may make all this work and allow you to choose your section (priority given to those who get there early, but you would get to choose a section)...and I sat out there in 1000 degree heat in august to get a front row seat in 112, so I know what it feel like...and if you can't stand the heat, then you aren't dedicated to getting a good seat...tough

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 11:01 AM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 10:59:25 AM

^^^firefox

soon as i clicked claim tickets it just goes to the top of that page and doesnt load anything

9/29/2006 11:00:28 AM

If nobody wants to sit in the stadium an hour and a half before the game, then you should have no problem coming a lot later and still have quality seats, right?

9/29/2006 11:00:57 AM

DNL, try IE.

9/29/2006 11:01:39 AM

ok one more thing...what if i do this but dont have a printer?

its not one of those only opens once type things and i have to have a printer right?

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"You did not request a ticket for this event and must wait until the On-Demand Phase begins."

MAN WHAT IN THE FUCK....THIS ONLINE TICKET SYSTEM SUCKS, I FUCKING REQUESTED A TICKET

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 11:04 AM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 11:03:19 AM

hmm, well if you have XP I think you can "print" a MSI document which you can then send to another XP much like a PDF file and print from there.

9/29/2006 11:03:59 AM

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"I've already posted this 10 times, but I'll do it again to clear it up....your fees DO NOT going to paying for student tickets, student sections, student parking, etc. In fact, the requirement that you pay your fees is only for the purposes of defining what a student is. But athletics is bound by law to spend their fee on items other than student tickets, student sections, student parking. And if you just pay $1 in fee money each year total, you are eligible, as long as that is all that you were charged, so the $119 is not an actual requirement."

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply the fees were specifically for tickets. My only point is that students already contribute quite a bit to the Athletics department. And as far as I'm concerned, it's what gives students the right to free tickets (even if the money isn't specifically marked for that purpose).

9/29/2006 11:04:46 AM

^^sorry to post again, i edited my last comment after you posted

man i really think this ticket system is overly complicated on purpose

9/29/2006 11:05:29 AM

When you click on print ticket, it'll open up a webpage with the ticket on it. You can open it as many times as you like. I always just click file, save as so I'll still have the ticket in case the system craps out at the last minute.

^did you use firefox to request?

V it's just an html file. I save it and open it in word. That way I can delete all the unnecessary writing and the ad.


[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 11:09 AM. Reason : ]

9/29/2006 11:06:31 AM

o yea the ticket is just a PDF anyway, isn't it? just save the PDF

9/29/2006 11:07:07 AM

^^yes

god i hate firefox and cookies, and firewalls and fucking online ticket systems

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 11:08 AM. Reason : ^thanks...guess i'll do that on the "in demand" phase]

9/29/2006 11:07:50 AM

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"Please be advised that students should use Internet Explorer and not Mozilla Fire Fox when requesting a ticket. The system is not compatible with Mozilla."

it's on the homepage for the ticket site.

9/29/2006 11:09:07 AM

so you have to choose between heat stroke or a bad seat?

it is sad that a system couldn't be created that pleases more then "about the same amount supporting it" which to me sounds like not even half the students. this whole thing is just a result of the students that were so desperate to sit in section 7. if people weren't so damn obsessed with sitting there we wouldn't need to go through all this.

9/29/2006 11:09:15 AM

c'mon, a heat stroke? go stand in the shade; you've already got your "priveledge". and basically, if other people are willing to have a heat stroke just to have better seats than you then they deserve it.

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"this whole thing is just a result of the students that were so desperate to sit in section 7. if people weren't so damn obsessed with sitting there we wouldn't need to go through all this."

I would say it had more to do with drunks who chose to piss/vomit in the stands.


[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 11:14 AM. Reason : than/then]

9/29/2006 11:11:02 AM

^^correct, it is because of those students
^bingo

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"man i really think this ticket system is overly complicated on purpose"

not going to agree w/ that, but...(joke) people did say they were concerned it would be too easy compared to standing in line at reynolds

9/29/2006 11:12:55 AM

Well, there is no real excuse for the vomit, but if people are going to puke in the stands there is little a ticket system will do about that.

But the pissing was a result of the overcrowdedness(is that a word?) of section 7. So people sneak their way into section 7, they close off section, people don't want to leave because they can't get back in, thus they stay at seats and piss. that is the series of events, so i restate my point that this is just a result of students that couldn't just sit in their assigned seats.

we are just getting closer and closer to having no tailgate. this just cuts it down another hour, i'm sure the administration loves the idea.

9/29/2006 11:39:38 AM

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"Athletics and the committee that made the changes doesn't get to choose how the security is run...campus police does...and while it seems only students have been targeted, they have the same policy at every gate...they have promised to enforce it on everyone from now on"

Fair enough, and I'm not saying that students were targeted. But the bottleneck that I saw was at the security, not the scanners.
Will there be anything done to speed up security?

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"The only people that this policy pisses off are the ones that want to get drunk before the game. I'm sorry if it's too hard for you to decide between watching your school play in good seats sober and watching your school play in bad seats drunk."

Some people have prior engagements, like class.

9/29/2006 11:46:54 AM

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"it's on the homepage for the ticket site."

thats what i get for not caring about ncsu

9/29/2006 11:51:01 AM

yeah, I made the suggestion today to use each of our 4 gates for each of the four section areas we will now be stamping...waiting to hear back from security about their willingness to help direct people....if you walk that through, you will basically have some seats left in each section even w/ 30 minutes before kickoff, because some people dont' like 7/8, some like other sections more...if they are allowed to choose other sections, then that leaves seats open in every section for groups to coordinate and come when they can

but as far as security goes, the people who are working our security from now on have been certified as professional security guards, and have been trained to be as efficient as possible...I agree that that is where the bottleneck occurs, and we have all mentioned that...they are working on more staffing for more lines, etc, to speed that process up, but I never know how that will work until we see it on gameday

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 11:56 AM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 11:55:07 AM