oh god it's the statistics versus w's debate

michael vick is a golden god

10/17/2006 12:17:07 AM

you can't blame it on the Cardinal's defense cause the bears didn't do shit on offense.

10/17/2006 12:17:54 AM

Has any QB ever had a worse game than the one Rex Grossman had tonight? What was it 4 Ints and 2 lost fumbles thats unfuckingbelievable.

haha his QB rating was 10.7

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 12:20 AM. Reason : .]

10/17/2006 12:18:06 AM

10/17/2006 12:18:19 AM

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"and the wheels are about to come off [Edited on October 16, 2006 at 11:07 PM. Reason : .]"

10/17/2006 12:18:40 AM

the only thing my eyes were opened to was how pathetic the Cardinals are as a franchise

10/17/2006 12:19:09 AM

more like the wheels blew out.

10/17/2006 12:19:16 AM

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"the only thing my eyes were opened to was how pathetic the Cardinals are as a franchise"

well you're obviously not capable of objectively looking at individual performances then. No big deal...

V I'm not saying he was flawless but he played a hell of a lot better then ANYBODY thought he would.. that's all.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 12:20 AM. Reason : x]

10/17/2006 12:19:59 AM

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"This isn't tennis or golf here. You have to depend on other people to win it. Leinart did his job and set his team up to win. They fucked it up.. He played very well and opened up a lot of peoples eyes, which is the definition of a breakout game."

Ok. 7 of Chicago's points were cause he fumbled.

So he personally was +7 (2 TD - 1 TD).

10/17/2006 12:20:01 AM

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"Has any QB ever had a worse game than the one Rex Grossman had tonight? What was it 4 Ints and 2 lost fumbles thats unfuckingbelievable."

somebody find this stat. most turnovers by a qb?

10/17/2006 12:21:38 AM

leinart didn't play badly, but you can't call this his coming out party or a breakout game when the only thing this game will be remembered for is a miserable collapse on behalf of his team, of which he is suppose to be the leader... i know it wasn't all his fault, but they still lost and the manner in which they lost will overshadow his performance... wait to have his coming out party till they beat somebody, or maybe u should just wait till they lose a little less embarrasingly, that might happen sooner

10/17/2006 12:23:00 AM

Quarterbacks With Most Interceptions

Career

* George Blanda - 277
* John Hadl - 268
* Fran Tarkenton - 266


Season

* George Blanda - 42
* Vinny Testaverde - 35
* Frank Tripucka - 34


Game

* Jim Hardy - 8
* Parker Hall - 7
* Frank Sinkwich - 7
* Bob Waterfield - 7
* Zeke Bratkowski - 7
* Tommy Wade - 7
* Ken Stabler - 7
* Steve DeBerg - 7
* Ty Detmer - 7

10/17/2006 12:23:33 AM

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"wait to have his coming out party till they beat somebody, or maybe u should just wait till they lose a little less embarrasingly, that might happen sooner"

Fair enough. At least they get to play the only franchise more pitiful these days then them, the Raiders next weekend. I'm ashamed to live only 20 miles from where that disgusting team plays in oakland..

10/17/2006 12:24:23 AM

at the desk talking right now

10/17/2006 12:24:40 AM

it's not every day you out-pass the opposing QB by a factor of 8.3x in efficiency!

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"NCSU337 All American 951 Posts user info edit post Has any QB ever had a worse game than the one Rex Grossman had tonight? What was it 4 Ints and 2 lost fumbles thats unfuckingbelievable. haha his QB rating was 10.7 "

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 12:27 AM. Reason : for V]

10/17/2006 12:25:35 AM

wasn't grossman's rating like a 10?

10/17/2006 12:26:59 AM

that list is insane

10/17/2006 12:27:18 AM

or -10, but whose counting.... espn will go on sucking bear nuts either way

10/17/2006 12:27:39 AM

haha. That guy is fucking pissed.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 12:44 AM. Reason : ]

10/17/2006 12:44:28 AM

I don't like Leinart and I hate defending him but the only reason he fumbled is because his lineman sat there with his thumb up his ass and let Leinart get totally blindsided.

10/17/2006 1:13:21 AM

I personally think he did a hell of a job but they have got to be the unluckiest damn team ever.

10/17/2006 1:15:16 AM

* Ty Detmer - 7

NORM CHOW WHAT WHAT

10/17/2006 2:14:42 AM

10/17/2006 2:15:44 AM

^hahahhaah

10/17/2006 2:58:56 AM

if they run to the right on 3rd and 1, they win.

it's pretty simple, run to the middle of the field to set up a field goal, it's not an unheard-of concept.

hell, let the QB go fall down in the middle of the hashmarks, whatever works.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 7:48 AM. Reason : sda]

10/17/2006 7:48:14 AM

i dont even give two shits about this game and im just as mad as that dude ^^^. what a messed up game.

10/17/2006 7:56:15 AM

HOLY SHIT! I WENT TO BED AT HALFTIME!!!!

NO... FUCKING... WAY

10/17/2006 8:21:13 AM

The bears will not go undefeated.

They will not even win the Superbowl.

I bet my ID on this.

10/17/2006 9:11:39 AM

ahaha ^^

self pwnt!

10/17/2006 9:17:20 AM

^^i'm with you there

i was laughing my ass off all first half at all the analysts that said this team would go undefeated, and also at michael irvin.

too bad arizona choked it away, but i say they lose at least 2 games in the regular season. i'm not so sure they even play in the super bowl.

10/17/2006 10:37:33 AM

Adrian Wilson was ballin out of control

10/17/2006 10:41:00 AM

I wanted to see what Cardinals fans would say so I went over to azcentral.com (newspaper) and went to the Cardinals' fanblog, it is hilarious. Most all of them want their tax money back, hate the Bidwells, hate the kicker, hate Dennis Green, but like Leinart. I guess Leinart is the league's next David Carr.

But this is the best quote. Apparently, Theismann said this in the third quarter:

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"Oh my god. I knew this game was over when it was 23-10 with the cardinals holding the ball and Theisman (announcer) said something to the tune of "I dont even want to hear it, this game is over, if the cardinals lose this game they may as well close the roof, sell the building back to that guy, open a pizza shack, because football is dead in arizona." I almost died laughing, because the second he finished the sentence, the ball gets wrenched out and ran back for a touchdown. The cardinals always find a way to lose, always. "

Here's another good one.

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"Before the season, the Republic had an article about the new season and the new stadium. And some f'in loudmouth Cardinals front office person was blaming the last 16 years of mediocrity on Sun Devil Stadium. It was all, "oh, we had to play in the heat! we had to play the first six games of the season on the road! we had to play in front of 30,000 people and 2/3 of them were rooting for the other team! we didn't have luxury skyboxes so we could hire great free agents!" And I thought to myself, wow that's a load of bull. The problem is the franchise. Sun Devil Stadium never stopped the Sun Devils from being a good team and sometimes a great team. Well, look where we are now. 1 and 5, and the Cards nearly gave away the one win just like they did give it away tonight. I am going to go back into back issues of the Republic and find out who said that. That person should be run out of town on a freakin' rail along with Edgerrin James and the offensive coordinator and Denny freakin' Green. I am not a huge football expert but even I knew that giving the ball to Edgerrin James was idiotic when he was getting STUFFED every... freakin....time. The Cards gave up a 20 point lead in the fourth quarter and the Bears DID NOT SCORE A SINGLE OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN! Can it get any more pathetic than that? The only guys who earned their paychecks were Leinart and Boldin. Edgerrin James set a record tonight... he carried 36 times for 56 yards... first guy in NFL history to carry that many times for that few yards. You know what's going to happen don't you? Leinart is going to put in three or four years here and then sign with a REAL franchise and take them to the Super Bowl. How many times has THAT happened with other star players the Cardinals have had???? PATHETIC. University of Phoenix should ask for a refund. Who would want to be associated with such losers????"

http://www.azcentral.com/phorum/read.php?10000,547036,page=3

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 10:59 AM. Reason : /]

10/17/2006 10:50:28 AM

all in all i think matt leinart has had a breakout game for the ages

10/18/2006 8:23:08 PM

leinart really didn't play all that great. i don't know why people are all on his nuts.

10/18/2006 9:11:33 PM

^^ Completely ignoring that fumble that started the Bears comeback at the end of the 3rd then? Sure your lineman has to block, but he's got to hold onto the ball.

10/18/2006 9:18:54 PM

dude, there is no quarterback alive or dead that could hold onto the ball while being hit on the blindside in the middle of a throw, he pretty much had a flawless game

10/18/2006 10:24:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n0ppcjM4a0&mode=related&search=

The middle of what throw?

No matter, just don't crown his ass. He's playing the worst team in the league this coming week. He should be awesome with no mistakes. Then we'll consider it.

[Edited on October 18, 2006 at 10:50 PM. Reason : .]

10/18/2006 10:48:48 PM

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"he pretty much had a flawless game"

you're much more deserving of a "greatest hits" thread than i am. fucking christ.

10/18/2006 11:27:24 PM

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"dude, there is no quarterback alive or dead that could hold onto the ball while being hit on the blindside in the middle of a throw, he pretty much had a flawless game "

10/18/2006 11:28:22 PM

quoting someone doesnt mean you made a good point.
i stand by what i said, he played a pretty darn good game, he was the best player on the field.

10/18/2006 11:40:24 PM

i agree

10/18/2006 11:43:01 PM

you obviously didnt watch brian urlacher....dude had almost 20 tackles, forced fumble and i can't even remember what all else... he was by far the best player on the field, he certainly had the most impact on the game!

10/19/2006 7:14:21 AM

^also had a blocked pass

10/19/2006 7:17:26 AM

^^ yeah he was big, second best guy out there. why? cause the second touchdown was his fault, he got juked by the reciever and fell down.

10/19/2006 11:05:15 AM

thats crazy, if you can say that then you haffta say the turnover for a touchdown by Leinart was his fault as well. Urlacher had an insane amount of tackles, him having 19 tackles to go along with everything else he did would have been like Leinart throwing for 500 yards... and oh yeah, his team won

10/19/2006 1:17:01 PM

let's look at matt's numbers, shall we?

24/42 (57.1%)... meh.
232yds... not bad.
2 td... not bad.
long of 26... meh.
avg of 5.5... pssh.
88.6 rating... not bad.
13 points off 6 turnovers... boo!
fumble recovered by chicago for a td... boo!

his 2 tds came in the first quarter. you gotta finish, matthew. the worst stat is that he was only able to manage just 13 points off 6 turnovers. 6 TURNOVERS. that's shitty as fuck. the offensive coordinator is to blame also, but the qb is just as much at fault. you gotta find your guys on the field, and orchestrate drives. why, oh why, are people saying this is his coming out game? if i were him, i wouldn't want this to go down in my pro career as my "coming out".

10/19/2006 2:43:35 PM

haha so much for him breaking out this week.... he threw 2 picks and no TD's to the absolute worst team in the league

10/22/2006 11:29:55 PM

But he was the best player on the field

10/22/2006 11:32:00 PM