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1/2/2007 10:06:58 PM

Ben McCauley carried us i can't believe how much better he is playing this year in comparison to last year


he looks AMAZING out there and is consistently playing very well


i wish costner wouldnt live up to his nickname "the big lazy" like he did tonight on defense

i can't wait for atsur to return....when the hell is going to get back out there...i've never seen a strained hamstring take this long to heal

[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 10:15 PM. Reason : ]

1/2/2007 10:14:18 PM

i call coster sean may, jr

[Edited on January 2, 2007 at 10:15 PM. Reason : not really cause of anything but his baby hueyness]

1/2/2007 10:15:30 PM

^haha

i said the same exact thing at last years Red and White game

1/2/2007 10:19:27 PM

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"i wish costner wouldnt live up to his nickname "the big lazy" like he did tonight on defense"

nobody can play defense because of the short numbers.

not to mention the fact that he had 4 fouls with 10 to go

1/2/2007 10:20:49 PM

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"i can't wait for atsur to return....when the hell is going to get back out there...i've never seen a strained hamstring take this long to heal"

Steve Smith was out for like 5 weeks.

1/2/2007 10:27:23 PM

Grant only had 4 turnovers, thats an improvement (avg of 5.2 per game). 13 rebounds is a surprise. he had a rough time shooting the ball tho...good thing he turned it on in the end and thank god for the clutch 3 to take us into overtime.

UNCG was 16-36 on 3 pointers...thats not the greatest 3 defense.

Costner was 6-12 on free throws and is only 63.5% on the season. Between the other 5 players though they were a combined 25-26...thats niccccccce.

Another outstanding performance by McCauley...only 2 assists away from a triple double. We would be shit without this guy.

1/2/2007 10:56:07 PM

http://broadband.espn.go.com/ivp/splash
good highlights for the game. I went 2 for 3 in getting in on the background for the highlights haha. last game and then again tonight im the idiot in the background at the end on the cell. It's been good luck and I am going to continue to do it haha. go pack. crowd was weak. Cant wait for acc play. later yall.

1/2/2007 11:59:26 PM

herb sendek

1/3/2007 12:00:12 AM

1/3/2007 12:22:06 AM

our defense on 3's has been brutal all year, first game one player said they were confused b/w what herb showed them and what sid showed them, and we've been getting 3's hit in our face all year...

but overall, i think we're better than expected and i'll be there Sat thinking we win...

1/3/2007 12:33:41 AM

a wins a win, but man acc play is gonna be brutal

1/3/2007 1:02:59 AM

Yeah whenever we play a team that has good shooters from behind the arc it is a close game. Three defense badly needs improving. Glad it was the win, fairly exciting but disappointing, especially with Costner living up to his 'big lazy' nickname. His performance was nowhere near last game's where he set some personal bests. I don't know what we'd do without McCauley, he's got so many different shots and moves under the basket and has saved our asses on many a play. I'm glad Grant's three went in to tie it but really he has no place trying to shoot threes, he makes just enough of them to where he's gonna keep on trying for them but misses so much that it usually ends up hurting us more than it helps.

^You never know, we came very close to beating UVA at UVA in their new arena to open up ACC play, and that was with our 6 man team at the time. Yes it's going to be very brutal going against the likes of Duke and UNC but that is to be expected this year.

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 2:29 AM. Reason : ]

1/3/2007 2:27:38 AM

93-95 to unc-g, what. the. fuck.

1/3/2007 2:55:20 AM

yeah, welcome to about 6 hours ago

1/3/2007 3:13:56 AM

I can say that UNC G played a great game, and they could be a mid-major to watch out for.

But I question if our three point defence is this bad or if people have suddenly gotten better at shooting the 3.

1/3/2007 3:28:08 AM

We're #190 in opponent 3-pt FG%.

http://www.kenpom.com/tmleaders.php?c=OppFG3Pct

And considering that our schedule to this point hasn't been particularly difficult, I'd say it's a pretty good indicator that our perimeter defense really does suck ass.

1/3/2007 5:47:51 AM

WOW, OT against UNC-G????


FIRE LOWE

1/3/2007 7:46:19 AM

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"Hey, it's been a fun 10-4 up to this point (still hate we lost that VA game)"

If you call barely beating shitty teams like ECU, Wofford, and UNCG fun.....

UVA lost to APPALACHIAN, who would probably beat us right now too.

1/3/2007 9:43:20 AM

we also nearly came back against a strong alabama team. college bball is weird,, its all about perspective. you guys have been predicting that the most wins wed get this year is 12, we have 10 now and its just about halfway through the regular season. quitcher bitchin.

1/3/2007 9:46:42 AM

some of you are fucking morons.

we have 6 players who've played 3 games in 6 days, most of them playing nearly 40 minutes a game. If you can't grasp the idea that fatigue due to lack of recovery time is crucial, then congratulations on being another idiot state fan.

1/3/2007 9:47:26 AM

I know we are weak in the depth chart but I was commenting on how he said this year has been fun.

Im not bitching, I said we would get 13 wins and I really think that is all we will get anyway.

1/3/2007 9:50:21 AM

i think packboozie should change his username to packbitching and moaning

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 10:10 AM. Reason : sdf]

1/3/2007 10:10:16 AM

So Im suppossed to be happy with an OT win over over a Southern conference team in which we only got to OT because our worst 3-shooter made one to get there?

ACC season is going to be long if Engin doesn't heal up.

1/3/2007 10:14:38 AM

yes, you are supposed to be happy with an OT win.
a win is a win is a win

are you going to be mad that we won with :

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"we have 6 players who've played 3 games in 6 days, most of them playing nearly 40 minutes a game. If you can't grasp the idea that fatigue due to lack of recovery time is crucial, then congratulations on being another idiot state fan"

get real man

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 10:17 AM. Reason : won not lost]

1/3/2007 10:16:45 AM

^^Your love for Herb shows in all of your posts. Get over it, he is gone. Deep down you want us to be bad this season so you can say, "I told you so". Shut the fuck up and stop bitching, everyone knew this would be a down season. I'm happy with 10-4 we should be 11-3, but it could be worse considering we haven't had our starting point guard for more than a month. We would have been 14-0 under Herb right?

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 10:20 AM. Reason : a]

1/3/2007 10:20:30 AM

shut the fuck up about herb

1/3/2007 10:28:02 AM

Yeah that is it. I NEVER bring up Herb. I only defend him. I want us to lose.

Not sure how much better Herbie would be doing, but I do know we would have 2 more players possibly up to 4 more. Plus we would actually be emphasisizing free throws and guarding the 3s.

^Exactly I wish people would quit bringing him up. So what that I liked him? I like Sidney too.

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 10:29 AM. Reason : ^]

1/3/2007 10:28:07 AM

Conf. play will pwn us

1/3/2007 10:34:59 AM

^ sadly, that's really the bottom line

1/3/2007 11:06:24 AM

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"yes, you are supposed to be happy with an OT win. a win is a win is a win"

I'm sorry but that's bullshit. Yeah, I'm happy we won but we are acting like a fucking Sun Belt fanbase all of a sudden. There are definitely things to fix that are not completely due to depth [see Rally's thread]. For a fanbase that was always pissed off even when we won games by 15-20 in past years there seems to be an awful lot of sensitivity to even the slightest criticism of this years team or strategy, which I really don't get. The fact is that I don't want the team to get raped come ACC play and if we play like we are right now on the perimeter it isn't going to be pretty.

On offense I'd like to see a little more movement. I know we've been hamstrung by the loss of Atsur but it is way too stagnant and we are getting by on McCauley's athleticism and balls alone. That simply isn't going to cut it when there are guys like Dudley and Marshall on the inside.

Defensively, the guys are switching at the wrong times half the time and not switching the other half. Why on earth Gavin and Fells would feel the need to switch off a guy who couldn't miss if he threw it over his head from 3/4 court is beyond me. That was pretty infuriating. They got better as the game went along at least in that respect but it seems to be a recurring theme this year.

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"If you can't grasp the idea that fatigue due to lack of recovery time is crucial, then congratulations on being another idiot state fan"

Again, I don't see many people harping on things that are tied to fatigue. Maybe a few but they certainly aren't the majority. There are things that I feel we can improve on that aren't tied to that. I don't see anyone complaining about our late game troubles against the more athletic teams like UVa and WVU because we realize with a team only 6-7 deep that is going to happen. I really don't see a problem with pointing out things we'd like to see done differently. I'm sure a bunch of 'here come TWW coaches who dont know anything' bullshit will follow this...

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As far as the ACC. I think we can beat Miami and Wake. Outside of them, the matchups just aren't too favorable. Duke isn't terribly athetlic so if we catch them on a night where Paulus is off we can hang with them. Unfortunately the biggest mismatch matchup wise is against UNC. I don't think all the motivation in the world can save us from a 20-30 point loss against theam..

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 11:31 AM. Reason : x]

1/3/2007 11:23:27 AM

We will win some in the conference too. This team will lose some, but they will be fun as hell to watch. They aren't going to back down from anyone and Sid will have them believing they can win.

Last night was a W no matter how you look at it. A loss last night would have been miserable, but after a couple of weeks, nobody will remember what the score of this game was.

We need Atsur back, and it will be a much better team.

1/3/2007 11:24:17 AM

if herbie was still here we would be getting our asses waxed by davidson.

1/3/2007 12:11:58 PM

i remember grundy had to make a last second miracle to beat uncg years back.

1/3/2007 12:19:22 PM

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"Defensively, the guys are switching at the wrong times half the time and not switching the other half. Why on earth Gavin and Fells would feel the need to switch off a guy who couldn't miss if he threw it over his head from 3/4 court is beyond me. That was pretty infuriating. They got better as the game went along at least in that respect but it seems to be a recurring theme this year."

do you realize that both of these guys are playing pretty much out of position when playing the PG. There is a different strategy on D when playing the 1 compared to playing 3 or 4.

Even Coach Lowe commented on this and had Gavin study an assload of tape on how to properly fight through screens and switching on pick /rolls b/c it was a different style of play. This is what coach Lowe said on one of his shows.

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" Again, I don't see many people harping on things that are tied to fatigue. "

the whole game is tied to fatigue, bryan. when you have 4 players avg. 38+ minutes a game on 3 games / 6 days. not to mention that 90% of our 6 man rotation has been avg. extreme minutes. We have the top 3 players in the ACC on minutes played. everything suffers when you tired, you know this

1/3/2007 12:40:38 PM

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"the whole game is tied to fatigue, bryan. when you have 4 players avg. 38+ minutes a game on 3 games / 6 days. not to mention that 90% of our 6 man rotation has been avg. extreme minutes. We have the top 3 players in the ACC on minutes played. everything suffers when you tired, you know this "

Amen.

1/3/2007 12:45:03 PM

im not happy with a win in OT against UNCG
but its a win and its better than a loss

cardiac pack anyone

1/3/2007 12:48:51 PM

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"I know we've been hamstrung by the loss of Atsur..."

HARDEE HAR HAR

1/3/2007 1:03:52 PM

^^ yup

1/3/2007 3:57:00 PM

Gunzz is money in this thread.

Everyone's all like "I know we're going to suck, so it's ok."

Then when we suck everyone is all like "OMG we're sucking. Here's why we suck. We need to defend better."

Bottom line: Could we be playing better? Sure. But we're playing pretty damn good with such a limited roster and the injuries. I'll take 10-3 OOC record smiling and clapping in terms of this season.

I expect 4 wins in conference, maybe 5 or 6 if we get really lucky/gel. Less than 4 would be a disappointment.

1/3/2007 4:13:25 PM

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"maybe 5 or 6 if we get really lucky/gel."

sarcasm?

1/3/2007 4:23:46 PM

I fail to see the sarcasm...

1/3/2007 4:24:51 PM

Some of you guys are still just taking a criticism as an all out attack on the team. I think there are ways we can improve and I'm saying what I think. That doesn't mean I'm disappointed and it doesn't mean that I'm getting on Sidney Lowe.

As I said, for some reason this year, any little criticism is met with a full defense mechanism.

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"the whole game is tied to fatigue, bryan. when you have 4 players avg. 38+ minutes a game on 3 games / 6 days. not to mention that 90% of our 6 man rotation has been avg. extreme minutes. We have the top 3 players in the ACC on minutes played. everything suffers when you tired, you know this"

I realize that a lot of it is tied to fatigue. I, as I'm sure you and a lot of other people on here too, have played a lot of basketball and understand the sport, but there are things on defense that I think can be improved even with the lack of depth. The bad switching isn't exclusive to guys who are playing out of position. I consistently saw Fells and even Atsur pre-injury do it as well. I'm no coach but it just seems obvious and even announcers of our last few games have been saying the same thing.

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"HARDEE HAR HAR "

Haha, I was hoping someone would get that.

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 4:27 PM. Reason : x]

1/3/2007 4:27:25 PM

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"We have the top 3 players in the ACC on minutes played. everything suffers when you tired, you know this"

1.Jared Dudley-BC.......... SR 10 379 37.90
2.Gavin Grant-ST........... JR 14 526 37.57
3.Courtney Fells-ST........ SO 14 495 35.36
Ben McCauley-ST.......... SO 14 495 35.36
5.Brandon Costner-ST....... FR 14 486 34.71

research things please...

1/3/2007 6:25:36 PM

yes, look at minutes played. we actually have the top FOUR in minutes played so far this season.

1/3/2007 6:41:40 PM

uhh do you not understand facts,it clearly states dudley from BC is the TOP in minutes played, that implies that we have the #2-#4, not the TOP 4.

1/3/2007 6:58:00 PM

which means 4 out of our starting 5 plays a shit load of minutes. AKA they get tired whereas BC plays one guy a lot. give the guy a break dude. 4 out of the top 5 might as well be the top 4 when its like that.

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 7:01 PM. Reason : damn]

1/3/2007 6:59:59 PM

UNC-G to make the FINAL FOUR

1/3/2007 7:04:26 PM

the dude from BC has the highest average minutes played based on the 10 games he's played

our players have played 14 games and they all have over 100 total minutes more than the BC guy

[Edited on January 3, 2007 at 7:05 PM. Reason : adsf]

1/3/2007 7:05:09 PM

can't we all just get along?

1/3/2007 7:05:42 PM