Too bad that has absolutely nothing to do with zionists...

It would really kick ass if you could do more than find an article that flatly says "no way!" without providing any evidence at all.

2/14/2007 9:23:28 AM

Guns have serial numbers, serial numbers from guns in Iraq match those from shipment to Iran. 1 + 1 = 2

2/14/2007 9:30:28 AM

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

Quote :

" HOW LUCKY FOR THE US MEDIA THAT THIS BOMB SUPPOSEDLY MADE IN IRAN BEARS ENGLISH MARKINGS Also, Iran gets its weapons, including mortars, from Russia. Russian mortars do NOT use 81MM rounds! They use 82mm. AND, Modern Iran uses a solar Hijri calendar that is 621 years less than the Western solar calendar, so if this munition were really made in Iran. the date should read 1385, rather than 2006! The Bovine Excrement meter just exploded."

Where you not going to post the retraction?

Quote :

"Retraction: Iran Does Make 81mm Mortar Shells I have received email indicating the Iranian Ammunition Industries Group manufactures and sells 81mm mortar shells, as indicated on this page."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_iran.html

2/14/2007 2:53:08 PM

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"Now, most Jewish people do not know the true nature of the religion of Judaism, but the elite Jewish establishment surely does. These people are literal soldiers of Satan....working to conquer the world for Satan, and bring in one-world religion and world government. "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan" --Revelation 2:9"

whoa, first i've heard of this. so let me get this straight (for reals)....
So are you saying the elite jews are knowingly Satan worshipers? As in, the Wolfowitz's and Perle's are Satan worshipers as in "oh Evil One, we bow down to you. Let your darkness reign supreme"? Then they go out and tell all the plebes that they should just pray to God?

Or are the elites praying to what they think is god, where in fact, you know better - that Satan is just playing a devious trick on them to make them think that he is God? what a tricky bastard....

2/14/2007 11:13:04 PM

Quote :

"Where you not going to post the retraction?"

And then that "retraction" was later retracted when it turned out the information alleging Iran did make 81mm mortar shells was fraudulent.



http://www.iramig.ir/Products/Mortar%20Bombs.htm

Quote :

"THE "IRANIAN" 81MM MORTAR WEB PAGE IS A FAKE! This web page is being waved around to "prove" that Iran does make 81mm mortar rounds like the one the US Government is trying to use to justify an invasion of Iran. Take a good look at the soldiers and weapons at the very top of the page. They look Iranian to you? And why does an Iranian company put together a web page where their own country is obscured from view on that world map? Check the spelling on the tabs. "Miscellancous"? "Caliber" uses the American spelling, rather than "Calibre." And Tehran is spelled "Tahran" on the contact page. This web page was assembled in a rush. Take a look at the page source in your browser. The images and directories on the server are all in ENGLISH. The phone numbers on the contact page are all 7 digit numbers. But in July of 2005, Iran switched over to an 8-digit phone system. And finally, the traceroute traces the IP not to a business, but to a university!"

2/15/2007 8:00:39 AM

they spend a lot of time scrutinizing that picture but dont say where the picture is even from

2/15/2007 9:04:02 AM

Who cares where it's from? Whether it's real or fake "evidence" against Iran, the message from the government/establishment is the same. We need to attack Iran. And we must do it, because it is our duty to do whatever the government/establishment tells us to do. No questions asked.

Just like with Iraq. All the "evidence" about Iraq's alleged "threat" was cooked, fabricated, and false. So what? We had to go to war. And the war is great.

So there. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

2/15/2007 9:33:34 AM

I'm still curious about the devil worshiping jews.
seriously.

2/15/2007 9:40:59 AM

I LIKE TO READ CRAP ON THE INTERNET AND SPECULATE
I LIKE TO READ CRAP ON THE INTERNET AND SPECULATE
I LIKE TO READ CRAP ON THE INTERNET AND SPECULATE
I LIKE TO READ CRAP ON THE INTERNET AND SPECULATE
I LIKE TO READ CRAP ON THE INTERNET AND SPECULATE

2/15/2007 9:48:33 AM

I LIKE TO BELIEVE AND DO WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT AND ESTABLISHMENT/MAINSTREAM MEDIA TELLS ME TO BELIEVE AND DO. NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

2/15/2007 10:02:33 AM

there's a big fucking gap between ^ and ^^, dude.

Satan. Jews. I want to hear more.

2/15/2007 10:04:12 AM

according to salisbury anybody who doesnt believe his batshit theories must be a slave to the govt and media

while he's a slave to his paranoid bloggers

2/15/2007 10:22:49 AM

Quote :

"Satan. Jews. I want to hear more."

Do a little research on your own. It isn't that hard. Then connect the dots. Research the Babylonian Talmud, the Kabbalah, etc. Look in the Bible where Jesus strongly condemend the Jewish Pharisees in the strongest terms...eg, as literal "sons of Satan", etc. Look in Revelation 2:9, where it talks about those who call themselves "Jews", but are not, and are a "syangogue of Satan."

The most "holy" book in the religion of "Judaism" is the Babylonian Talmud. "Babylonian" is in the title because the religion known as "Judaism" is heavily influenced by Babylonian occultism. The Talmud contains some of the most vile, evil, and anti-Christian teaching in existence. It is, in every sense, a satanic book.

Look into the Kabbalah (another Jewish "holy" book), which is a revered book in the occult world. In fact, Albert Pike (perhaps the most important man in the history of Freemasonry) said that all the "mystery religions" have their genesis in the Kabbalah.

2/15/2007 10:27:01 AM

Quote :

"Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame. For there is no distinction between Jew an Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon him. For whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved"

-Romans 10:11-13

2/15/2007 10:43:03 AM

2/15/2007 10:47:00 AM

I am very suspect of Paul/Saul's writings, and I do not believe he was a genuine "apostle." His writings contain many significant contradictions and variations from the doctrine taught by the other apostles and the Old Testament.

Saul aka "Paul" was a Jewish Pharisee who persecuted and killed Christians. He, of course, later claimed to have "converted" and changed his ways. My take on his "apostleship" and writings is that he tactically decided that it would be more effective to seek to destroy Christianity from within than as an external enemy. Therefore, he infiltrated the Christian movement and pretended to be a true follower, and (quite successfully) has weakened the true Christian religion via the introduction of many false doctrines.

2/15/2007 10:49:17 AM

I can respect that,fully. But then again that's just "your take". For someone looking to vilify Paul, your take is comprehensive. But, giving the benefit of the doubt one can say that people do change when a revelation is experienced.

2/15/2007 10:55:54 AM

Here's a thread a made on Saul/Paul, which lays out my view on Paul in more detail:

Paul of Tarsus: False Apostle and Deceiver?
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=362707

2/15/2007 11:19:50 AM

Okay, I'll check it out.

2/15/2007 11:25:27 AM

Is worshiping Satan so bad? He killed far less people in the Bible than God did.

2/15/2007 11:25:58 AM

Quote :

"Do a little research on your own. It isn't that hard. "

ok, great. I'll get right on that.

i'm still curious about one single question, though. answer me this:
Are the Jewish elite knowing, willingly worshiping Satan, or are they worshiping what they think is god, but who, as all of us know, is actually satan in disguise?

2/15/2007 11:32:02 AM

Quote :

"Saul aka "Paul" was a Jewish Pharisee who persecuted and killed Christians. He, of course, later claimed to have "converted" and changed his ways. My take on his "apostleship" and writings is that he tactically decided that it would be more effective to seek to destroy Christianity from within than as an external enemy. Therefore, he infiltrated the Christian movement and pretended to be a true follower, and (quite successfully) has weakened the true Christian religion via the introduction of many false doctrines."

I could see that. "One of you will betray me" That doesn't say who, and if you've read the gospel of judas then judas didnt really betray anyone. perhaps it was paul.

2/15/2007 11:33:36 AM

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"Are the Jewish elite knowing, willingly worshiping Satan, or are they worshiping what they think is god, but who, as all of us know, is actually satan in disguise?"

Based on all the research I have done, I would have to say that the vast majority of those higher up in the power structure (ie, the elite Jewish banking families, high-level rabbis, etc.) consciously know they are worshipping Lucifer or Satan. That is what comes from truly knowing what is in the Talmud and the Kabbalah, etc. Most low-level Jews, however, don't know the true nature of the Talmud, Kabbalah, and the religion of "Judaism" in general. They probably hardly ever read the Talmud and Kabbalah, just as most Christians hardly ever read the Bible.

Some of those in the higher levels who consciously worship Lucifer/Satan either believe (or have deluded themselves into believing) that Lucifer is a force for "good" and not evil. Many others in the higher levels (including certainly those at the VERY top) know very well that Lucifer/Satan is a force for evil, and openly embrace evil.

2/15/2007 12:12:18 PM

Dorthea Dix closed one wolfwebber too soon.

2/15/2007 12:15:14 PM

aww look, you're attacking another tdubber

[Edited on February 15, 2007 at 12:24 PM. Reason : again]

2/15/2007 12:24:01 PM

pssss...here's a hint

you're losing at this tdub game in the worst way. You're almost as delusional as the original poster.

2/15/2007 12:35:16 PM

hey look chance has just shit up another thread


whats your obsession with "winning" at tww?

seems kinda lame to me

2/15/2007 12:38:33 PM

For real though, Satan killed more people in the Bible than God. I think the elite Zionist must be brilliant!

2/15/2007 12:47:12 PM

Quote :

"And then that "retraction" was later retracted when it turned out the information alleging Iran did make 81mm mortar shells was fraudulent."

Where did whatreallyhappened.com retract their retraction? I couldn't find it.

Several days a go I found numerous websites that explicitly mentioned iranian manufacture of 81mm mortars, sadly its almost impossible to find due to google searches bringing up conspiracy articles about about them.

Consider this: Iran was supplied by the US military until 1979 (in fact, they're the only other country in the world that has operated the F14 tomcat). The 81mm mortar has been used by the US military since prior to World War II. Obviously, if the Iranians received mortars from the US they would be 81mm. Do you really think that they would abandon all of their american military equipment and replace it with nearly identical Soviet gear? More than likely they would simply begin manufacturing their own 81mm mortars.

Of course, now I'm actually using my brain instead of just buying into the first conspiracy theory that Alex Jones mentions - so you probably won't be interested in it.

Quote :

"Look in the Bible where Jesus strongly condemend the Jewish Pharisees in the strongest terms...eg, as literal "sons of Satan", etc. Look in Revelation 2:9, where it talks about those who call themselves "Jews", but are not, and are a "syangogue of Satan.""

This is what really puzzles me about you. You love to prattle on about other people not examining evidence to come to a thoughtful conclusion, but you have absolutely no hesitation when it comes to basing your entire belief structure on a 2000 year old book whose events are completely unverifiable. Can you even prove that any of the events in the Bible actually happened?

Quote :

"Based on all the research I have done, I would have to say that the vast majority of those higher up in the power structure (ie, the elite Jewish banking families, high-level rabbis, etc.) consciously know they are worshipping Lucifer or Satan."

What research have you done aside from reading the Bible and rense.com? Seriously, please share instead of just vaguely mentioning your "research".

Quote :

"Some of those in the higher levels who consciously worship Lucifer/Satan either believe (or have deluded themselves into believing) that Lucifer is a force for "good" and not evil. Many others in the higher levels (including certainly those at the VERY top) know very well that Lucifer/Satan is a force for evil, and openly embrace evil."

Proof please.

2/15/2007 3:55:24 PM

this is all i could find in terms of retraction. i have not found a retraction of the retraction either.

Quote :

"February 13, 2007 Retraction: Iran Does Make 81mm Mortar Shells I have received email indicating the Iranian Ammunition Industries Group manufactures and sells 81mm mortar shells, as indicated on this page. However, this does not diminish the argument that there is no definitive evidence Iran supplies weaponry to Iraq’s Shi’a militias, as originally stated. Indeed, these particular weapons are sold all over the world. Which means that anyone (read the US, UK, or Israel) could easily purchase them and plant them where they would be found to support the war propaganda."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_iran.html (have to scroll down a bit to the Feb 13 section)

[Edited on February 15, 2007 at 4:02 PM. Reason : .]

2/15/2007 4:01:22 PM

^theres something else that says that the website that prompted the retraction is a fake website

but:

Quote :

"Who cares where it's from? Whether it's real or fake "evidence" against Iran, the message from the government/establishment is the same."

where its from is pretty important

2/15/2007 4:07:50 PM

where does it say that the site was a fake?

2/15/2007 4:09:59 PM

higher up on the page

2/15/2007 4:10:48 PM

Quote :

"Who cares where it's from? Whether it's real or fake "evidence" against Iran, the message from the government/establishment is the same."

or:

Quote :

"Evidence no longer matters now that we have a conspiracy theory."

2/15/2007 4:22:54 PM

More evidence of the U.S. actively trying to destabilize Iran, potentially provoke Iran into war, and in general destablize the region:

http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=USL1682600620070216

Quote :

"Iran arrests bomb suspects, police say U.S. link Fri Feb 16, 2007 TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran has arrested some 65 men suspected of being behind a deadly bombing that killed members of the elite Revolutionary Guards in a southeastern border province, the student news agency ISNA said on Friday. It quoted the local police chief as saying the suspects had clear links to U.S. and British intelligence services. The claim comes at a time when the United States has accused Iranian groups of involvement in the war in Iraq. A booby-trapped car blew up a bus owned by the Guards on Wednesday, killing at least 11 people in the city of Zahedan, the capital of the Sistan-Baluchestan province which has been the center of low-level unrest over the past months. [...] "Our investigations clearly shows their connection to American and British intelligence organizations and also to groups opposed to the Islamic republic," Ghafari said. Iranian officials said on Wednesday that five of those behind the bombing, including the key suspect, were arrested by security forces. Iran's official IRNA news agency quoted an unnamed official on Friday as saying those behind the bombing had received training from the United States to create ethnic divisions in Iran. "I joined Jundallah three months ago ... and entered Iran from a neighboring country to carry out terrorist acts. I received trainings in Pakistan," IRNA quoted the key suspect Nasrollah Shamsi Zehi as saying. Iran's semi-official Fars news agency also quoted an unnamed official as saying that "explosives used by the terrorists in Zahedan were American made"."

The GOAL is destabilization, war, and chaos. That is what the elite interests controlling our government want. Not peace.

2/17/2007 4:36:55 PM

Quote :

"The GOAL is destabilization, war, and chaos. That is what the elite interests controlling our government want. Not peace."

UCB is behind all of this?

2/17/2007 4:39:53 PM

sorry i meant to delete that line

2/17/2007 4:41:20 PM

http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/

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"Suspicious Naval Incident to Incite War on Iran by James Buchanan Iran is now being accused of kidnapping British sailors. The US was drawn into the Vietnam War thanks to a phony naval incident in the Gulf of Tonkin –an event the neocons may be attempting to duplicate in the Persian Gulf. A recent news article reports “Naval forces of Iran’s hardline Revolutionary Guards captured 15 British sailors and marines at gunpoint Friday in the Persian Gulf — an audacious move coming during heightened tensions between the West and Iran. U.S. and British officials said a boarding party from the frigate HMS Cornwall was seized about 10:30 a.m. during a routine inspection of a merchant ship inside Iraqi territorial waters near the disputed Shatt al-Arab waterway. Iran’s Foreign Ministry insisted the Britons were operating in Iranian waters and would be held ‘for further investigation,’ Iranian state television said. A U.S. Navy official in Bahrain, Cmdr. Kevin Aandahl, said Iran’s Revolutionary Guard naval forces were responsible and had broadcast a brief radio message saying the British party was not harmed.” Given the nearly infinite tendency to lie by both the Bush and Blair regimes, it’s a safe bet that the Iranians are telling the truth. The president of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad canceled a planned trip to speak in front of the UN in regards to Iran’s nuclear energy program. The timing of this incident was clearly intended to make Iran look bad just as Ahmadinejad was scheduled to appear before the UN. Iran has the right to arrest anyone who trespasses into their territorial waters. The neocons are fully capable of “sacrificing” a few sailors to create a case for war. Ahmadinejad was going to give a speech at the UN to counter months of neocons lies, this latest incident seems tailor-made to fan the flames of war and to drown out the truth. [...] There are dozens of nations in the world, who have a peaceful nuclear energy program, but Americans have been brainwashed to think that it’s impossible to have a peaceful program without a nuclear bomb program too. It costs billions of dollars and takes years of research to develop atomic weapons. Even if Iran made the effort to make one atomic bomb, Israel reportedly has hundreds of hydrogen bombs. A few nuclear bombs in the hands of the Iranians would be nothing more than a deterrent so that Israel could not wipe Iran off the map without any consequences. If a war is waged by the West against Iran, it is to preserve Israel’s ability to utterly destroy their Muslim neighbors without fear of retaliation and nothing else."

3/29/2007 11:09:47 AM

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"Iran’s Foreign Ministry insisted the Britons were operating in Iranian waters Given the nearly infinite tendency to lie by both the Bush and Blair regimes, it’s a safe bet that the Iranians are telling the truth."

have you not seen the satellite photos that clearly show that they were 1.7 miles into iraqi waters?

holy shit you are stupid

cocaine is a helluva drug salisburyboy

3/29/2007 11:11:44 AM

Quote :

"The US was drawn into the Vietnam War thanks to a phony naval incident in the Gulf of Tonkin –an event the neocons may be attempting to duplicate in the Persian Gulf."

How in the hell is this event a duplicate of the Tonkin incident?

Please go open a book.

Thanks.

3/29/2007 11:17:57 AM

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"have you not seen the satellite photos that clearly show that they were 1.7 miles into iraqi waters?"

Haven't heard anything about any satellite photos.

But if the government and corporate media is saying it, then by God it must be true.

3/29/2007 11:31:43 AM

no they actually showed them on the news...ill see if i can find them online

its pretty pathetic that you havent even heard of them though

course your idea of an indisputable fact is "since bush and blair have lied, iran is probably telling the truth"

and boldfacing that half assed assumption apparently makes it even MORE true

Quote :

"But if the government and corporate media is saying it are showing spy satellite photos of the area with lat and long markers, then by God it must be true"

course if one of your bloggers SPECULATES about it, then by God it must be true

3/29/2007 11:45:09 AM

Remember those "satellite images" Colin Powell used to "prove" Iraq had mobile biological labs??



Oh, what the hell....let's go to war with Iran too.


"ALUMINUM TUBES!!!! NIGER YELLOWCAKE!! ATTACK ATTACK!!!

SAVE US FROM THE ISLAMOFASCISTS!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHH!!!"




[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 12:06 PM. Reason : 2]

3/29/2007 12:03:28 PM

so your only "proof" is one blogger saying "you know, bush and blair have lied...and regardless of how much iran has lied...the fact that bush and blair have lied means iran is probably telling the truth"?

or do you have anything with any substance whatsoever?

3/29/2007 12:08:09 PM

Quote :

"Iran’s Foreign Ministry insisted the Britons were operating in Iranian waters"

Quote :

"it’s a safe bet that the Iranians are telling the truth."

Iran gave the coordinates. When it was pointed out that the given coordinates were in Iraqi waters they gave a second different set that wasn't.

Of course, if you got your news from sources other than prisonplanet you might know that.

3/29/2007 12:59:33 PM

i think anyone with common sense knows that Iran isnt the must trustworthy country

like and thats coming from someone that lives in the USA

3/29/2007 1:02:07 PM

like...totally

3/29/2007 1:54:42 PM

Good contribution, salisburyboy!

I'm glad to see you relishing in topical discussion.

3/29/2007 5:21:14 PM

lol i don't know why you guys give salis so much hell, i'd LOVE to read a fiction book written by him

3/29/2007 5:24:48 PM

ok i was with you on this subject until you tried to claim that they were in iranian water

3/29/2007 5:52:24 PM