hurricanes definitely sit behind basketball and football here.

oh, and tob ftw.

1/16/2007 2:06:03 PM

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"so credit tob for keeping all of those signed on board with him."

no, credit Curt Cignetti and Dick Portee for keeping them here and blame TOB for firing Cignetti and Portee.

1/16/2007 2:53:15 PM

Fuck off dude. It's pretty fucking stupid to bitch like this before one snap of spring ball has been played.

1/16/2007 2:54:41 PM

It's valid when he fires the two people who are responsible for keeping the recruiting class around and have been state football for a long time.

1/16/2007 2:57:24 PM

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"yea they have to sit behind BoSox Patriots Celtics and the Bruins just to name a few where as in Raleigh...the Hurricanes."

I wasn't talking about that but that is also true. I'm talking about what sports the best athletes tend to play in the 'home recruiting area.' High school football just isn't all that popular in New England. The best athletes are playing basketball or hockey or baseball over football a lot of the times. Not saying EVERY school is like that but a lot of the region is. Think about how many 3-5 * players come out of NC alone. The entire NE region pales in comparision to that... then think about how much NC pales in comparison to states like CA, TX, or FL...

I think that has a lot to do with why TOB left BC in the first place. BC is losing it's grip on the Northeast slowly every year. For the first time ever UConn, Rutgers, AND Syracuse all had better recruiting classes than BC according to most services. He knew as those programs continue to grow (most notably Rutgers and UConn) that BC will continue to lose more and more of the relatively slim pool to start..

[Edited on January 16, 2007 at 2:59 PM. Reason : x]

1/16/2007 2:57:58 PM

^^ Do you realize what the fuck you are saying? You're basically ignoring the record TOB has compiled, and what he has done at BC when you go on these retarded rants. YOU REALIZE WE WERE 3 AND INFINITY LAST YEAR RIGHT?

He could fire everyone, have a heart attack, and have to speak through a machine and still produce a better result on the field than last year, at least that is what his record and history is telling me. He also did it with recruits half the caliber that we got. I think the man knows what he is doing, a shit ton more than some fucking hack on a message board. You look like a clown.

[Edited on January 16, 2007 at 3:09 PM. Reason : a]

1/16/2007 3:08:41 PM

come back when you understand how shit works.

1/16/2007 3:09:28 PM

That's what I thought. You can't defend yourself to the domination I just dropped on you.

I've added this to my topics. We'll see how these recruits do, we'll see how recruiting in general progresses for NCSU next year.

Can't wait to see your bitch ass eat some crow.

1/16/2007 3:12:59 PM

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"I'm talking about what sports the best athletes tend to play in the 'home recruiting area.' High school football just isn't all that popular in New England. The best athletes are playing basketball or hockey or baseball over football a lot of the times. Not saying EVERY school is like that but a lot of the region is."

weather has a lot to do with that. I wouldn't have enjoyed playing football in high school if half of our games were played in a blizzard and every game of the playoffs occurred on a field that was half mud and half ice.

1/16/2007 3:20:14 PM

Not to change the subject, but I was looking on statefans.com and saw that TA was only a 3-star RB coming out of high school...I figured he' d be at least a 4, if not 5 considering he had the TD record for NC at the time.

1/16/2007 3:54:21 PM

where is TA now? jk

1/16/2007 3:55:43 PM

the football star system is flawed, to say the least.

1/16/2007 3:56:01 PM

^^^ he also played at a 1-A highschool... so of course that would affect it

1/16/2007 4:11:49 PM

4^ actually at the time he had not only the NC records but also national records for most career touchdowns and season touchdowns

1/16/2007 5:46:03 PM

haha. and it all doesn't mean shit now.

1/16/2007 5:51:22 PM

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"come back when you understand how shit works."

Dude, you have got to be the worst know-it-all of all time. Tom O'Brien has been in the business for years. You haven't. You have nothing to judge him by except for his exceptional record at BC.

He knows how to win on Saturdays. That's all that matters. When you become a college football coach or a recruiter- maybe you might one day "understand how shit works."

1/16/2007 7:41:58 PM

he can never win when it counts.

1/16/2007 8:04:16 PM

every game counts. last season he only lost 3 that counted. Amato lost 9. I know that you english majors struggle with math sometimes, but even that comparison should be simple enough for you to comprehend.

1/16/2007 8:13:46 PM

he lost to chuckles on a last second miracle. Lost to the eventual ACC champ and a determined miami team. I can deal with that.

1/16/2007 8:16:31 PM

in a city that couldn't care less about college football.

recruits on average don't like going more than 6 hours from home. and new england sucks ass for football.

[Edited on January 16, 2007 at 9:22 PM. Reason : hfsd]

1/16/2007 9:22:07 PM

^^^^ He has won like 6 straight bowls or something.

The point though, is that I know how good his teams have been with lesser recruiting than ours.

But now that he is here, I would hope he will take advantage of the better recruiting grounds we have here, and not settle for the same type of players he had to at BC.

1/16/2007 9:24:31 PM

fuck i dont care if he settles as long as we can have 9-3 seasons

1/16/2007 11:38:05 PM

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"Ruiz enrolled at Southwestern intending to concentrate on baseball, but decided to play football. He was a punter only at Otay High School in Chula Vista. At Southwestern this season he averaged 43.3 yards on 63 punts. He led the California junior colleges in punting average this season. Ruiz, a first baseman, plans to play baseball at N.C. State. Ruiz has been working with John Matich, a former kicker at Boston College (1996-99). Matich played for O'Brien at Boston College and for Jerry Petercuskie, the assistant who was in charge of Boston College's special teams and who is now at N.C. State."

I guess that's why we "wasted" a scholarship on a juco punter...

http://tinyurl.com/2xxa7t


[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 9:50 AM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 9:46:02 AM

Pretty obvious we bit on the troll bait on this one. Oh well, nutsmackr is still a tool.

1/17/2007 10:03:54 AM

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"I've added this to my topics. "

it's ON now BITCHES

i'm on the TypeA bandwagon

1/17/2007 10:48:17 AM

http://www.wral.com/sports/football/ncaa/story/1167067/

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"North Carolina State Names Archer Defensive Coordinator Posted: Jan. 16, 2007 Updated: Jan. 17, 2007 RALEIGH, N.C. — North Carolina State hired former Kentucky defensive coordinator Mike Archer for the same position on Tuesday. Archer, 53, coached at LSU from 1987-90 and later spent seven years coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers' linebackers under former North Carolina State player Bill Cowher. He was the Wildcats' defensive coordinator for the past four seasons before leaving to join new Wolfpack coach Tom O'Brien's staff. His Jan. 9 resignation was widely reported, but neither school would confirm that he was joining the Wolfpack staff. "Because of his many years of experience, both on the collegiate and professional levels, and his wealth of knowledge, I feel that he will make invaluable contributions to our program," O'Brien said. Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed."

This year Kentucky's total defense was 118th out 119th, Rush 108th, Pass 102nd.
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/ranking_summary/2006000000334.HTML

why did we hire this guy?

1/18/2007 5:55:37 PM

it's right there in your post

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"Archer, 53, coached at LSU from 1987-90 and later spent seven years coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers' linebackers under former North Carolina State player Bill Cowher."

Plus the UK defense last year was about 85% freshman and sophomores, but they created 28 TOs. I think Archer basically told them to play agressive and thus they gave up yards/points, but overall UK as a team had a good season and those TOs were a big part of it.

I do agree that we could have gotten someone better though.




[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 6:02 PM. Reason : sdfs]

1/18/2007 6:01:09 PM

I remember everyone said this when we hired Reggie Herring.

He did alright...we went from #114 in total defense to #1.

Give the guy a chance

1/18/2007 7:52:57 PM

Is it bad that I salivate at the thought of a good, consistent coaching staff?

1/18/2007 10:08:21 PM

no

1/18/2007 10:38:57 PM

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"every game counts. last season he only lost 3 that counted. Amato lost 9. I know that you english majors struggle with math sometimes, but even that comparison should be simple enough for you to comprehend."

He's like Marty, he can win games, but he can't win when it counts.

1/18/2007 11:08:13 PM

and amato could win the big game ... just couldnt get to it


what's your point


co head coaches ! lets woo chuck back from FSU

[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 11:11 PM. Reason : .]

1/18/2007 11:10:45 PM

^^ name a coach in the last 10 years who could win when it counts.

and btw, philip rivers is not a coach.

[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 11:11 PM. Reason : ^]

1/18/2007 11:10:46 PM

archer also had a team that was under probation at UK. could anybody freakin coach a defense worth a damn in the SEC at UK while on probation?

good hire. i cant believe this thread is still going. shut the hell up already. TOB will be just fine, Archer will do just fine and we will finally have some fuckin discipline rather than a bunch of guy's who didn't get their wish of going to UF, the U, or FSU.

[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 11:15 PM. Reason : 12222]

1/18/2007 11:13:46 PM

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"He's like Marty, he can win games, but he can't win when it counts. "

who'd you want in his place that always wins the big one? Did you think we were going to get Bill Belichick? Amato couldn't keep his players from jumping offsides and committing penalties "when it counts".

If you're thinking Paul Johnson would win the big one for you, then take a look back at his bowl game with that stupid play calling at the end. He had the game won and lost it with a stupid outside pitch.

1/18/2007 11:33:42 PM

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"lost it with a stupid outside pitch. failed option pitch"

even worse

[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 11:54 PM. Reason : fgsad]

1/18/2007 11:54:00 PM