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"ASU sucks. Herb will always waffle between slightly overachieving and slightly underachieving. Thats how his "safe" style works. He will never be great and will never be terrible (once he gets ~5 years under his belt at ASU)"

basically.

[Edited on February 17, 2007 at 4:51 PM. Reason : quote for page 4]

2/17/2007 4:50:10 PM

BTTT

2/18/2007 9:52:50 PM

EAT MY SHIT YOU WOLFWEB BASTARD ASSHOLES

2/18/2007 10:07:25 PM

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"Sun Devils (7-19)"

2/18/2007 10:18:19 PM

GG Herb. They will win the Pac-10 Tourney, get the automatic bid, and win the N.C.

2/18/2007 10:28:20 PM

if by they you mean a college not in arizona then maybe

2/18/2007 10:31:11 PM

^^^ yep

2/18/2007 10:33:24 PM

HERB PWNS OJ SIMPSON!

Quote :

"'It feels good to get out of the shitter' - Herb Sendek"

[Edited on February 19, 2007 at 12:35 AM. Reason : .]

2/19/2007 12:30:46 AM

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"When I wake up tomorrow morning, it will hurt just the same. Plainly and simply, we were beat by a hungry team headed by a superior coach. I have no doubt that Herb will have his team in the NCAA Tourney as early as next year."

- Tim Floyd, USC Head Coach


http://www.espn.com/mcollbk/SC_ASU/021807

2/19/2007 12:39:35 AM

I have no doubt humans will eventually build a working time machine, as early as tomorrow morning

2/19/2007 12:46:52 AM

who said that?

2/19/2007 12:55:07 AM

i just did

2/19/2007 1:38:16 AM

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""A lot lesser group of fans could have been at home watching 'Desperate Housewives' tonight," first-year coach Herb Sendek said. "And so it was heartening to see such a great crowd out here tonight to see us get this one.""

hahaha

2/19/2007 8:08:12 AM

is it just me or is Herb trying to act cool at ASU since one of the major complaints in Raleigh was his utter lack of cool?

2/19/2007 8:12:28 AM

^ looks like it to me, too. like sitting in the student section at football games, as far as i know, he never did anything like that here.

2/19/2007 12:52:11 PM

he did dance for us that one time at the red and white game.

2/19/2007 12:55:51 PM

2/19/2007 1:10:44 PM

Im not even going to respond to you Rat since you don't respond with any intelligence or facts. Yes I was upset Herb left. Look at our search, if 7 coaches turning you down before you get one doesn't upset you...then you have problems. We luckily found a good alumnus that actually wants the job.

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"He doesn't score, he's not a GREAT shooter, he's not good at the FT line, he's a very limited ball handler."

Man good thing Atsur didn't score 20 and dish out several assists and run our team yesterday.

Also Engin hasn't missed a free throw in ACC play, how is he not good at the line?

[Edited on February 19, 2007 at 1:58 PM. Reason : Ive attened almost EVERY NC State basketball/football game since I was like 12 STFU Rat]

2/19/2007 1:57:10 PM

Quote :

"he did dance for us that one time at the red and white game."

2/19/2007 2:09:55 PM

we need to somehow get some of these pictures to arizona state students

2/19/2007 2:20:40 PM

theres nothing wrong with herb, nobody can do anything with his team

2/19/2007 2:36:45 PM

Yeah Engin played really well against VT. It still doesnt change the fact that he's only had a handful of great or even very good games in his career.

He's finally hitting free throws this year I guess... he struggled mightily from the FT line his first 2-3 seasons though.

He's a good player. The point I was trying to make is that he's not even an All ACC 3rd teamer so its completely ludicrous to say he'd make ASU a tournament team.

2/19/2007 6:41:20 PM

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"He's a good player."

I'm not sure I'd go that far, but it could just be because I don't like the guy. He definitely doesn't live up to all of the hype the announcers give him.

2/19/2007 8:03:36 PM

2/19/2007 8:08:58 PM

His decision making (Atsur) has gotten better over the years...he outsmarts the defense sometimes to make up for what he might lack in athleticism and size

2/19/2007 8:19:05 PM

i really don't understand how people could dislike atsur.

2/19/2007 8:27:10 PM

Vandy Game

2/19/2007 8:31:23 PM

the Vandy game in the '04 Tourney?

what did he do so wrong?

a true freshman, he played 33 minutes, shot 6-14, 8 rebounds (6 offensive), 2 assists, 1 steal and ZERO turnovers

how's that not good?

2/19/2007 11:14:54 PM

All I remember about that game was that Freidje (sp?) mutherfucker with the big nose

and us having the game in hand and blowing it

[Edited on February 19, 2007 at 11:19 PM. Reason : and friedje lit us up like a christmas tree]

2/19/2007 11:19:18 PM

the 5-point possession around the one minute mark was the dagger

biggest bullshit intentional foul call in the history of college sports


i broke a window that night

2/19/2007 11:25:38 PM

I can't believe this made 4 pages.

2/19/2007 11:27:03 PM

was the Vandy game one of the multiple games where we were down 3 points with 30 seconds left and the ball and the play we ended up running was atsur shooting a contested 33 footer as time expired? or was that a different game?

because atsur made his fair share of mistakes

2/20/2007 10:23:20 AM

^different


Vandy game was damn near the most frustrating game to watch ever

Maryland ACC tourney game is just about tied.

I wanted to die after watching those

2/20/2007 10:38:05 AM

vandy was teh game we had an 11 point lead in with like 3 minutes to go and choked

2/20/2007 10:39:02 AM

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"Vandy game was damn near the most frustrating game to watch ever Maryland ACC tourney game is just about tied. I wanted to die after watching those"

No way.

Duke. ACC Championship. Redick going apeshit and singlehandedly erasing our 17 point lead in the 2nd half.


Then the whole Caron Butler 'foul' was pretty bad too.

2/20/2007 11:26:58 AM

^ yeah that JJ Red dick 3 point land explosion costing us that title ranks up there.

As well as the phantom tech down the strech of the Maryland game where an assistant coach was wiping the floor with a towl - giving MD 2 points and the ball, deflating all of our momentum.

2/20/2007 12:49:09 PM

^yeah that was during the 3-4 week period where Gilchrist actually played well

2/20/2007 1:00:51 PM

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"i hate our "fans"."

We hate you too.

And you cannot possibly say that Herb would have done a better job than Lowe.

And we shouldn't care about a former coach at another school. Herb is history and we ought to wish him well- and that's it. He was a decent coach, but he wasn't great by any means.

[Edited on February 20, 2007 at 4:23 PM. Reason : :]

2/20/2007 4:18:15 PM

^ You can't say he wouldn't have either. It's pointless and impossible to try and guess...

As for the "fans" comment. I take that to mean the people who seem to take greater joy in seeing another team fail or more to the point, Sendek fail, than our own team win. And yeah, I can't stand those "fans" either; and yeah, they do exist.

If I hated everything to do with the fanbase I wouldn't be a fan of the program.

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"Redick going apeshit and singlehandedly erasing our 17 point lead in the 2nd half. "

I think that was the first time I literally got irate watching a game. I wanted to kill that faggot Redick...

V I feel the same way. You aren't one of the ones yelling Fuck Herb in every thread possible either..

[Edited on February 20, 2007 at 4:25 PM. Reason : x]

2/20/2007 4:22:51 PM

^ There is a big difference between wishing him to fail and not caring about him.

I wish him well, but I don't care about him and I don't care to have him back.

2/20/2007 4:24:43 PM

neither do i, so you weren't one of the dipshits i was talking about.

if you look at the first page, its clear that some people were excited about him failing. its that lack of class in our fanbase that i despise.

[Edited on February 20, 2007 at 4:31 PM. Reason : d]

2/20/2007 4:29:53 PM

Every school/team has its fair share of classless, psychotic, and delusional fans. NC State, UNC, App State... even Harvard and Southwest Georgia A&M College. I cannot think of a school/team that doesn't.

2/20/2007 4:39:29 PM

I think alot of that is trolling...just trying to get everyone worked up with the 'SEE I TOLD YOU SO!1111!!' shit.

It's well known I wasn't a huge Herb fan. He's a solid coach, thanks for what you did, best of luck. I'm not childish enough to wish harm or failure on the man, though. He was a really good guy and did a lot for us. IMO, it was just time to move on and I hope he brings excitement about roundball to ASU.

2/20/2007 4:45:02 PM

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"He's finally hitting free throws this year I guess... he struggled mightily from the FT line his first 2-3 seasons though. "

Engin Atsür:
Year FT-FTA PCT
03-04 33-50 .660
04-05 43-56 .768
05-06 57-73 .781
Total 133-179 .743
http://www.gopack.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=41962&SPID=3731&DB_OEM_ID=9200&ATCLID=611311&Q_SEASON=2006

2/21/2007 1:32:57 AM

ok ok, how about this. what if we don't wish failure for sendek, but say that we do to troll ncstatetke, but we did want herb gone when he was here, and are really excited about how different sidney is than herb (and just that sidney fucking owns, plain and simple). do you hate someone who fits that description?

2/21/2007 1:39:32 AM

well the redick thing wasnt that bad. you can't really get mad over a great player doing what he normally does to take over the game when it counts.

maryland game you can't really get mad at either. they had so much depth that year and destroyed everybody in the 2nd half. acc tourney is the only time depth really helps you alot. gilchrist being unstopable didn't hurt them either.

but its the bullshit that kills me. cal game was just nuts but the traveling call was such BS.

uconn game we outplayed them and caron butler was not fouled at all by hodge and evtimov was mauled on the other end.

vandy game the phantom intentional foul (on a play that would have been an iffy foul at all) destroyed the game

texas game was lost because herb got angry at fells and grant for breaking his gameplan by running and CATHCING US UP.

wisconsin game we sat ona lead and did nothing the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half.

2/21/2007 1:52:20 AM

Quote :

"k ok, how about this. what if we don't wish failure for sendek, but say that we do to troll ncstatetke, but we did want herb gone when he was here, and are really excited about how different sidney is than herb (and just that sidney fucking owns, plain and simple). do you hate someone who fits that description?"

That truly is just as bad as everyone on here bashing him.

2/21/2007 7:28:06 AM

OK, yes, I am getting to this late, but damn Herb...I never imagined you would be this far up to your neck with shit.

2/21/2007 9:29:17 AM

yes, you are late


and quite possibly retarded too

2/21/2007 10:04:01 AM

Not as retarded as all the ASU thread you thought you were gonna get to rub in our faces you clown.

2/21/2007 10:06:07 AM