Quote :

"a guy from PackPride wrote this Quote : "From a friend who is a current Va Tech student: "A man who works in my dad's office - one of his best friends is a paramedic in Roanoke. That guy is here at Tech today of course, and according to the police and rescue workers, the true death toll is 40 people. Also, the truth behind what really happened in AJ in the morning is the killer was suspicious his g/f was cheating on him, and managed to catch her in bed with another guy. So he shot them both on the spot. Anyway, just found that news plus the higher death number very shocking. And yes, this info did travel from the paramedic to my dad's coworker to my dad and to me. However those are clear facts and direct from the inside of the investigation as far as we were told." "

hahahahhaha i know who originally wrote that.

4/16/2007 8:43:13 PM

ok nvm. its not him


apparently this is the guy.... dont know for sure thogh

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 9:00 PM. Reason : ..]

4/16/2007 8:53:52 PM

nm its not him

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 9:03 PM. Reason : .]

4/16/2007 9:00:38 PM

Gun control laws work great! . . .

. . . For law-abiding citizens. Mass-murderers don't really give a crap.

4/16/2007 9:11:34 PM

what sux is the media are mad at the school for not closing down the entire operation after the first incident. WTF!!! when I was at state we had a couple of shooting and they didn't close the whole thing down there is NO WAY they could have guessed this would have happened and I am so pissed that the uppity UNCch educated journalism majoring press is all "why didn't you stop it" i watched the news conference w/ the campus police chief and the poor guy who is understandably a little stressed is badgered by the damn media over what could have been done. Bastards

4/16/2007 9:26:40 PM

I was just studying with a friend from physics who is from a small town in the VA mtns... As soon as I saw him I asked if he knew anyone, and sure enough his best friend was killed... They talked to each other last night about going fishing as soon as exams are over... In his teary eyes all he could say was, "I'm still going fishing in our spot when I get back..."

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 9:53 PM. Reason : sorry for being upset?]

4/16/2007 9:36:27 PM

Just saying is all

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 10:15 PM. Reason : nicer]

4/16/2007 9:46:06 PM

^^You should go with him.

4/16/2007 10:06:19 PM

think the kid got pissed off after he caught them went home changed and got another gun and went on a rampage?

that would explain alot more about it and the gap between the times.

and yea u cant really blame the cops, i mean when the shootings here happened they didnt shut down the football game where 60,000 people were.

4/16/2007 10:21:24 PM

Police are saying that the massacre guy didn't match the description for the shooter in the dorm room.

4/16/2007 11:01:47 PM

Yea, I think it is kinda silly too that they are so pissed off at them for not closing campus down. Hindsight is always 20/20. Apparently the students are pissed too that they weren't notified of the first shooting earlier.

4/16/2007 11:19:47 PM

You know darn well if VT officials would've sent out 26,000 text messages saying somebody got shot, everyone would've laughed it off and been mad about VT costing them $.15

4/16/2007 11:22:08 PM

i watched a few minutes of Olberman, and they were skewering the police too. I think it's unfortunate and very cruel to simply say "if the police had done xxx then 30 people wouldn't have died".
In almost any situation, police can do something better. But this all has to be in context. Blacksburg is a small town with a small town police force, with an average of 0 murders per year
http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Blacksburg&state=VA
So if there is a shooting, it's not like they can rely on lots of experience and immediately jump into the perfect action.

Furthermore, common sense would tell you that if someone enters a dorm to commit murder and kills 2 people, he would then try to flee the area. There is no reason for them to even imagine that he would head to a crowded classroom area 2 hours later and unload. They would have every reason to start searching the campus and to set up a perimeter around the town, because experience would tell them that the guy would try to get out of Dodge ASAP.

They even had a guy on Olberman talking about what the police or the school could have or should have done, and he was like "well, maybe it's time that schools have sirens or alarms installed so if somethign happens there can be a campus wide siren alert to tell students to find somewhere safe" (somewhere safe? oh, like.... a dorm or classroom?) yeah.... out-fucking-standing idea. Every school in the country should do that now. And schools that don't have it done by the end of this semester don't care about their students!

4/16/2007 11:29:38 PM

Quote :

"if someone enters a dorm to commit murder and kills 2 people, he would then try to flee the area. There is no reason for them to even imagine that he would head to a crowded classroom area 2 hours later and unload."

this is true. the media is forgetting this point. i feel bad for the police force and the school staff. it wasn't anybodies fault.

4/16/2007 11:46:17 PM

yeah, fuck the media...always looking to blame someone

some lady earlier was saying the parents should sue the school...that's fucking ridiculous

the police did all they could with the information they had, that's why this is called a tragedy

[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 11:50 PM. Reason : ]

4/16/2007 11:50:10 PM

yeah, i felt sorry for the police chief on TV. Here's a guy in a small town, where much doesn't happen, and then all of a sudden he's on CNN, MSNBC, etc. being bombarded with questions by the media trying to find someone to blame. Some of the media questions were just ridiculous. One guy asked, "Were the doors chained from the outside or inside." Hmmm, lets think about that.

4/17/2007 12:04:29 AM

Quote :

"I was just studying with a friend from physics who is from a small town in the VA mtns... As soon as I saw him I asked if he knew anyone, and sure enough his best friend was killed... They talked to each other last night about going fishing as soon as exams are over... In his teary eyes all he could say was, "I'm still going fishing in our spot when I get back..." "

this made me

4/17/2007 12:05:40 AM

Quote :

"yeah, i felt sorry for the police chief on TV. Here's a guy in a small town, where much doesn't happen, and then all of a sudden he's on CNN, MSNBC, etc. being bombarded with questions by the media trying to find someone to blame. Some of the media questions were just ridiculous. One guy asked, "Were the doors chained from the outside or inside." Hmmm, lets think about that."

Yea, that really pissed me off. No matter how tragic, the fact is that this was unavoidable.

4/17/2007 12:17:00 AM

I just can't imagine being somewhere and someone just coming up and shooting at me for no reason...thats so horrible

4/17/2007 12:24:49 AM

^ How can you say it's horrible, if you can't imagine it?

Maybe it's not horrible.

4/17/2007 12:37:00 AM

shut the fuck up.

whats wrong with you

4/17/2007 2:41:12 AM

cue some smart ass to chime in "people die everyday, why should i care?"

4/17/2007 6:38:38 AM

all faculty with a conceal carry permit should be allowed to be armed on campus imo

4/17/2007 8:06:08 AM

foxnews.com has posted the names of some of the victims:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266466,00.html

4/17/2007 8:32:05 AM

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=19406792

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=32520437

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=37515162

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=6266415

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=49420524

4/17/2007 8:43:41 AM

Seung-Hui Cho has been identified as the shooter. - now they are changing his name

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 9:26 AM. Reason : University closed for the rest of the week for classes, etc... Adm. is openning back up tomorrow.]

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 9:27 AM. Reason : Norris Hall closed for the rest of the semester.]

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 9:30 AM. Reason : changing name]

4/17/2007 9:23:08 AM

Ok now they said the name is Cho Seung-Hui. The woman on the news conference now is so short you can barely see her over all the microphones!!! I think she is standing on her tip-toes!

4/17/2007 9:36:49 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266506,00.html

Quote :

" An Israeli lecturer who died in the massacre at a U.S. university saved the lives of several students by blocking the doorway of his classroom from the approaching gunman before he was fatally shot, his son said Tuesday. "

4/17/2007 9:41:45 AM

^I just read that too...very sad

4/17/2007 9:47:20 AM

It makes sense that an Israeli would be able to react quickly in such a situation.

4/17/2007 9:49:25 AM

^^^he is gonna get some sort of medal

4/17/2007 9:55:18 AM

except he's dead

4/17/2007 9:57:46 AM

^^rightfully so

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 9:58 AM. Reason : .]

4/17/2007 9:57:48 AM

I am sure President Bush will award him one if that story can be backed up by more than one source.

4/17/2007 9:58:35 AM

I would hate to have class in that room(s) in the future knowing all those people died in there.

4/17/2007 10:04:31 AM

Norris Hall is closed for the remainer of the semester. I would doubt that classes will be held in those rooms anymore. I would guess that those will be closed off and not used or made into a memorial of some sort.


I don't know if this has been posted yet or not but here is a partial list of those that are reported to be dead. May they Rest In Peace.

• Maxine Turner, Vienna, Va., Senior, Chemical Engineering

• Henry Lee, Roanoke, Va., Freshman, Computer Engineering

• Matt La Porte, Dumont, N.J., Freshman, University Studies

• Jamie Bishop, Instructor, Foreign Languages and Literatures (German)

• G.V. Loganathan, Professor, Civil and Environmental Engineering

• Juan Ortiz, Graduate Student, Civil Engineering

• Jarrett Lane, Narrows, Va., Senior, Civil Engineering

• Ryan Clark, Columbia County, Ga., Senior, Biology, English, Psychology (3 majors & a 4.0 GPA!!!)

• Leslie Sherman, Sophomore, History and International Studies

• Caitlin Hammaren, Sophomore, International Studies and French

• Liviu Librescu, Professor, Engineering Science & Mechanics (apparently blocked the door with his body while he told his students to flee until the gunman took his life)

• Kevin Granata, Professor, Engineering Science & Mechanics

• Reema Samaha, Centreville, Va., Freshman

• Emily Hilscher, Woodville, Va., Freshman, Animal and Poultry Sciences, Equine Science

4/17/2007 10:07:21 AM

^^I not trying to joke but all I could think about is those fear shows were they take people into dilapidated mental institutions with cameras in the dark and try to mess with the peoples' heads.

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 10:07 AM. Reason : .]

4/17/2007 10:07:21 AM

Korean news reports are stating that the shooter came to the US during elementary school.

4/17/2007 10:12:49 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_massacre


As a direct result of this massacre, in 1995 the Texas Legislature, led by Suzanna Gratia Hupp (whose parents were both killed in the massacre), passed a law over the veto of former Governor Ann Richards that allowed Texas citizens to obtain a concealed carry handgun permit in part as a reaction against the massacre. Soon after, many states considered similar weapon permits for citizens

4/17/2007 10:22:36 AM

Anyone find a transcript of Jack Thompson blaming this on video games when he was on Faux News?

4/17/2007 10:24:38 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Seung-hui

4/17/2007 10:31:07 AM

Wonder what the "disturbing note" described/said. Motherfcuker

4/17/2007 10:42:48 AM

the face of evil

4/17/2007 10:51:33 AM

http://www.eog.com/news/full-article.aspx?id=21916



[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 10:59 AM. Reason : are those the same person?]

4/17/2007 10:58:30 AM

that first pic is the only one the major news places are saying is him

4/17/2007 11:03:16 AM

the second pic is from the ap

if they aren't the same person, it sure would suck to be the other guy

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 11:05 AM. Reason : ]

4/17/2007 11:04:48 AM

no way both those two pictures are the same person.

different facial structure

different proportions (look at the ears for example)

4/17/2007 11:12:20 AM

"Arbitrary asian pictures"

4/17/2007 11:22:22 AM

I just heard a report from a radio news reporter out of Atlanta that sources inside the investigation said the guns had the serial numbers filed off.

4/17/2007 11:24:57 AM

i wonder why he would bother with that if he was just planning on shooting himself anyway

4/17/2007 11:31:31 AM