No disrespect to you but you look like a middle school girl you scrawny piece of shit.


My post wasn't typed for you so just overlook it. No one on the entire board thinks you have an ounce of sports knowledge so just go back to your caricatures, at least those were humorous.

5/3/2007 5:17:25 PM

rallydurham your absolutely right. If the Bobcats had Kobe, they would at the MINIMUM make the NBA Finals. If the Bobcats had Nash, they would maybe make the playoffs.

5/3/2007 5:19:07 PM

I dont think the Bobcats would come close to winning a playoff series with only Kobe either, that damn ball hog

5/3/2007 5:19:38 PM

If you have to ignite a piece of beef with me, then why are you posting in my thread? All you do is post grossly misleading information and doctored wikipedia stats. You act as if you have superior merit!

especially when you've been TORCHED by me pleny of times. Fact.

[Edited on May 3, 2007 at 5:25 PM. Reason : .]

5/3/2007 5:19:55 PM

^^if Nash and Kobe were on the same team, would your head explode? Oh look at Nash! 20 assists! all to Kobe! wtf!

ps: put Brevin Knight on the Suns...they wouldve beaten the Lakers 4-2

[Edited on May 3, 2007 at 5:23 PM. Reason : .]

5/3/2007 5:21:58 PM

Quote :

"No disrespect to you but you look like a middle school girl you scrawny piece of shit. My post wasn't typed for you so just overlook it. No one on the entire board thinks you have an ounce of sports knowledge so just go back to your caricatures, at least those were humorous."

Ahahaha that was a great post

Quote :

"If you have to ignite a piece of beef with me"

Ahahaha. I might ignite a piece of beef for supper tonight.

5/3/2007 5:25:06 PM

Felton, Kobe, Hermann, G.Wallace, Okafor


with Carroll, May, Knight, Brezec, Voskuhl off the bench.

And Hollins and Anderson for mopup duty.


That's a good team. I think they'd be the slight odds on favorite against Detroit... but right now Im starting to believe Chicago might be the team to beat in the East.

Detroit is a little flawed. I'm not sure they have the depth or the scoring they are gonna need to beat the Chicagoes.

[Edited on May 3, 2007 at 5:25 PM. Reason : a]

5/3/2007 5:25:42 PM

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"No disrespect to you but you look like a middle school girl you scrawny piece of shit"

For someone who has never seen me. Sad I tell ya.

5/3/2007 5:28:40 PM

^^Detroit has something that Chicago cannot possibly get by the time they play next week...playoff experience

5/3/2007 5:30:31 PM

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" and you can rack up easy assists by simply passing to Amare Stoudamire for easy dunks if you're not a complete retard is Scott Skiles the best NBA player ever? how come Stockton never got MVP hype?"

The NBA has lots of players capable of lighting up the scoreboard with points. That's what the fans want to see and most of the league put up 20+ in college anyway.

Scott Skiles had the 30 assist game, but besides that had just 2 seasons of 8 or more assists. He's akin to Tony Delk's 52 point outburst.

How many guys scored 20 points a game this year? 19

How many guys got 8 assists a night this year? 5, but I'll give you 7 with at least 7.8

Scoring 30 points or getting 12 assists for any of these players would mean getting 150% of their full game averages in 1 quarter.

Look at the list of scoring leaders. Kobe obviously, but you're telling me it would shock you to see guys like Vince Carter, Gilbert Arenas, or Allen Iverson put up 30 in 12 minutes?

What about Tracy McGrady, who a few years ago scored 13 points in 35 seconds to beat Dallas?

I saw Joe Fucking Johnson score 22 in a quarter this year.


On the other hand, who besides Nash and Kidd in the league right now could you see having 12 assists in 12 minutes?

Deron Williams? Chris Paul? Andre Miller?

Do you think either of those 3 have a better chance of getting 12 assists in a quarter than either Arenas, Carter or Tmac have of scoring 30 points?


Amare thrives in the Phoenix offense, but there are at least 10 other players who would have similar success playing alongside Nash and Marion. If it was Nash and an inferior post player, say Drew Gooden, the Suns would still be one of the elite teams. It it was Stoudemire and an inferior point guard, say Jamaal Tinsley, they would be the 6th or 7th team in the West.

Phoenix is built around Nash like the Colts' offense is built around Peyton Manning. As long as they're running the show, the rest of the parts are interchangeable. If Stoudemire or Marvin Harrison left, both teams would still be among the best in the league. When the Suns lost Joe Johnson and Quentin Richardson, they brought in Raja Bell and Boris Diaw and still were great. They won 7 more games with Amare this year, but they're still the 2 seed like last year. He didn't make them better by leaps and bounds. If Nash or Manning went out, their teams would be fucked.

There's probably about 6-8 players in the league who couldn't be replaced and have their teams survive. Nash and Kidd(and maybe Duncan) are the only ones of those whose game isn't defined by their scoring output. There's a handful of players capable of putting up 30 points in a quarter, but only those 2 could get 12 assists.

5/3/2007 6:02:03 PM

if replacing Nash with Jamal Tinsley would make the Suns fall off, how come replacing him with Jason Terry gave them the best recod in the league

assists are a product of style of play and the rest of the team...somebody like Brevin Knight could thrive in Phoenix because he knows how to get the ball to players in rhythm...if Kidd could shoot as well as Nash and Kidd was on the Suns, the Suns would be even better...Nash is a great player but the reason some other PGs dont get 12 in a quarter is the style of offense and the supporting cast

[Edited on May 3, 2007 at 6:05 PM. Reason : .]

5/3/2007 6:04:25 PM

Quote :

"Look at the list of scoring leaders. Kobe obviously, but you're telling me it would shock you to see guys like Vince Carter, Gilbert Arenas, or Allen Iverson put up 30 in 12 minutes? "

Yes, just like it shocked me that Kobe put up 30 in a quarter. Its absolutely ridiculous.

5/3/2007 6:06:42 PM

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"Deron Williams? Chris Paul? Andre Miller?"

I could see any of those three getting 12 assists if they had scorers like the Suns around them.

5/3/2007 6:08:03 PM

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"Most assists, rookie, game 25-Ernie DiGregorio, Buffalo at Portland, January 1, 1974 Nate McMillan, Seattle vs. L.A. Clippers, February 23, 1987"

hell yeah

5/3/2007 6:09:41 PM

Nash wasn't even an allstar in Dallas. Like I said, its a system offense. Terry couldn't run the Suns offense any better than Marcus Banks. Nash wouldn't even be an MVP candidate in most offensive schemes; he just found the perfect fit in Phoenix. Dallas's offense is built around 7 foot jump shooter.
It's no coincidence both have played better since they've been on different teams. Their games don't mess well together. Tall jumpshooters are role players in New Jersey and Phoenix's system, like Bostian Nachbar or Tim Thomas last year.

5/3/2007 6:11:35 PM

I'm not talking about the players talents or skills.

The question is how many players could get 12 assists in a quarter. Not plugging players into different teams to make it work. Brevin would no doubt be effective in the Phoenix offense. But no fucking way he gets 12 on the bobcats. Same with Paul on the Hornets, Williams on Utah and Miller on Philly. Nash wouldn't have a chance to get 12 on any of those teams either. In the current makeup of the league, with their current teammates and offensive systems, only Nash or Kidd could do it.

5/3/2007 6:15:30 PM

i think a lot of players could do it against a team comprised of kobe and a bunch of retards

5/3/2007 6:19:00 PM

teh bobcats with Kobe aren't much better (if at all) than the lakers with Kobe. The bobcats have more young talent with potential, but the finals? that's nuts

5/3/2007 7:57:02 PM

In the East, it doesn't take much

5/3/2007 7:59:03 PM

It definitely is a system offense. Nash is an awesome PG but his numbers are inflated thanks to his supporting cast and system.

Why wasn't he putting up elite numbers in Dallas?


Is Jose Calderon really an upper tier PG? Or is it just the system?


The player efficiency rankings consistently show that Nash is just outside the top 10 of the league.


I guess we're still ignoring the importance of defense. Youd think after 4 pages one of the Nashlovers would have some explanation of why he gets absolutely raped on the other end of the floor.



^ and how is that nuts? Felton/Kobe would give us perhaps the best backcourt in the league. Then paired with Wallace and Okafor? The amount of athleticism and defense on the court would make the Bobcats an elite team without a doubt.

You could argue that Kobe is the premeire perimeter defender in the game, Okafor is one of the top 10 post defenders, and Wallace is one of the elite off-the ball and versatile defenders in the NBA.

Coupled with Felton's ability to get out in transtion and lead breaks with Kobe (elite finisher), Wallace (elite dunker), Okafor (one of the quicker post players in the league).

You'd be crazy to think that team wouldn't win 55-60 games in the East.

[Edited on May 3, 2007 at 8:08 PM. Reason : a]

5/3/2007 8:05:23 PM

well aint that just a shame cuz we're gonna have to take the boy, kobe may be the best to ever play the game but he's no wizzard, he's no artiest he's not immortal he's just a basketball player, he's no magician or no doctor.My game is the winner take all I live on the edges So i'm subject to a fall on defense I ain't never been a loser I ain't never gonna be I'm like runnin' in a ringer You don't mess around with me and my friends in our collective audience we will make you cry and send you back to the desert la, sa, or dallas with no cookies, no cake and absolutly no dessert

[Edited on May 3, 2007 at 8:22 PM. Reason : HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW, EARLLLLLLLLL YOU LITTLE CHUMP?-get at me for hotdogs...u2 rallyalwaysrightdurha]

5/3/2007 8:20:19 PM

I'd take Felton, Kobe, Hermann, Wallace, and Okafor against anyone's starting 5 in the East

Even Detroit's

That's the beauty of basketball compared to other sports

With only 5 guys, 1 player can make a incredible difference

Arod wouldn't get the Royals to the Series and Tomlinson wouldn't put Oakland back on top

But put Kobe on the Bobcats (or any other non-playoff team in the east besides Boston), and you would instantly be one of the elite teams in the conference

Worst Case the 4 seed in the East this year.

5/3/2007 8:22:21 PM

If I was assured that he would stay healthy, I would take Baron Davis over Nash any day of the week

5/3/2007 10:57:53 PM

Looks like Dallas is going to be watching Nash from the T.V too!

So I guess that trade for Terry worked out...

5/4/2007 1:01:56 AM

Let me know when Nash takes his team as far as Terry has.

You dumb ass.

Jesus, you people can't even make real arguments anymore.

5/4/2007 1:14:50 AM

If Dirk wins the MVP

the press conference will be must see TV

5/4/2007 1:15:54 AM

5/4/2007 1:18:20 AM

finals and conf finals isn't that big of a difference

oh, and terry doesn't take the mavs anywhere

[Edited on May 4, 2007 at 1:31 AM. Reason : ]

5/4/2007 1:30:25 AM

Nash is the best basketball player alive

5/4/2007 10:57:10 AM

T MAC CHAUNCEY T MAC CHAUNCEY

5/4/2007 3:00:34 PM

tender vittles.

5/9/2007 3:27:11 PM

Nash is the most likely NBA player to be anemic

5/9/2007 4:52:47 PM

His only weakpoint is his schnozz, in which he snorts crack to make him better

5/9/2007 5:08:03 PM

also the phoenix suns trainers are the most retarded "doctors" on the face of the earth

5/9/2007 5:13:24 PM

Folks, just remember this when you have the inclination to argue with him that the weight of a basketball might very well cripple him.



FACT!

[Edited on May 10, 2007 at 6:12 PM. Reason : x]

5/10/2007 6:10:05 PM

Okay, now let's get things clear right now. My physical appearance IN NO WAY damages my merit or lack of sports knowledge. Refute me with intelligence, not insults neanderthals are very capable of.

You just keep at---okay? I might make you test your crippling theory in person.

5/10/2007 7:17:46 PM

Your physical appearance amuses me. Nothing more. I just can't help but not take seriously someone who looks like they don't have an ounce of athletic ability in their body.

About making me test my crippling theory... what does that even mean? Plenty of people on here have played bball with me and I think they'd vouge that I can hold my own... FACT!

Ok, I'm done. Sorry..

[Edited on May 10, 2007 at 7:33 PM. Reason : x]

5/10/2007 7:21:40 PM

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"About making me test my crippling theory... what does that even mean?"

What ever you want it to mean, playboy. Bball, football, fighting, it's whatever with tha kid. I have no problem displaying my physical abilities to prove a point. It seems I have already won MULTIPLE times from a mental perspective. FACTOR.

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"Plenty of people on here have played bball with me and I think they'd vouge that I can hold my own"

And yet you drop no names...du'oh. And why should I give credence to you again?

5/10/2007 7:30:09 PM

Sure. Bball would be fine. I play every night after I'm done with the gym. Mavericks in Concord. Hope to see you there!

......

Though, more on topic, I've found myself pulling for Nash recently. Guy is a warrior..

[Edited on May 10, 2007 at 7:36 PM. Reason : whose alias are you again?]

5/10/2007 7:34:10 PM

ring ring ring 1-800 NyM410 "bluff, this is he"

[Edited on May 10, 2007 at 7:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2007 7:49:19 PM

you're really not as smart or clever as you think you are dude.


The drawings were funny.


You've been complete weaksauce other than that.

5/10/2007 7:58:40 PM

First off---my illustrations were NEVER intended to be humorous. And secondly, I'm not here to HUMOR you. Funny you say I'm not "smart" as I think I am. I can take that from you of all people. For the history between me and you, IS on record. FACTOR.

All of your post, well the majority of them, are asinine opinions in which you input grossly misleading wikipedia facts that you "interpreted" to fit your weak and invalid arguments. Truth be told.

[Edited on May 10, 2007 at 8:06 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2007 8:03:43 PM

Hahahaha. Im sorry but that picture of Earl is hilarious. I am sure you can hold your own on the basketball court but my gosh you sure do look like Napoleon Dynamite.

5/10/2007 8:08:51 PM

well, this thread sure has turned to shit. thanks guys!

5/10/2007 8:17:20 PM

where else was it supposed to be head?

5/10/2007 8:26:30 PM

Steve Nash was a unanimous selection to the All-NBA team

5/10/2007 8:48:03 PM

5/10/2007 9:51:56 PM

hahaha n00b

5/10/2007 9:52:32 PM

my bad

5/10/2007 9:58:22 PM

5/10/2007 10:00:10 PM