IIRC, the rockets won their first like 16 games that year

[Edited on June 17, 2007 at 2:14 AM. Reason : page 4]

6/17/2007 2:13:28 AM

i dont think that is right

they were a 6 seed in the playoffs

but i'm not sure

6/17/2007 2:15:15 AM

i may be thinking of another year...did the rockets ever have another tall guy and the duo was named "the twin towers" or something?

6/17/2007 2:16:42 AM

not that i know of

6/17/2007 2:18:06 AM

^^

6/17/2007 2:19:05 AM

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"Tomjanovich was hired as head coach before the 1993-94 season and the Rockets tied an NBA record by beginning the season with 15 consecutive wins."

http://www.tickets-nba-basketball.com/rockets/history.htm

dont know if that was the season they met orlando in the finals or not

6/17/2007 2:20:52 AM

it was Otis Thorpe I believe

6/17/2007 2:21:14 AM

oh, nah, season before

but gg, i didnt remember/know that

6/17/2007 2:21:50 AM

Otis and Hakeem

6/17/2007 2:23:35 AM

so anyways...back to thread topic

i thought kobe said him and phil had a heart to heart?

6/17/2007 2:26:19 AM

well today he said he wants out

apparently chicago, new york and one other team

speaking on behalf of the bulls fans I say let isiaih overpay him

6/17/2007 3:21:40 AM

hope Kobe goes to Chicago, instant finals contenders

6/17/2007 3:27:18 AM

no way

they are close now and what they would have to give up plus kobe's hogging would bring them down

they are one piece away and kobe is not that piece

6/17/2007 3:43:38 AM

i think we need saddamizers opinion on this...he listens to rap so he probably knows a lot about basketball

6/17/2007 4:42:15 AM

drunknloaded listens to John Mayer so he probably knows a lot about gay sex and crying

6/17/2007 4:55:29 AM

lol...saddamizer listens to john legend...which trumps the gay card over that mayer dude

6/17/2007 5:07:28 AM

true but your collection of Robbie Williams albums makes you the gayest of them all

6/17/2007 5:10:42 AM

nigger fuck you...you listen to elton johns discography on a regular basis

6/17/2007 5:12:22 AM

Obviously, you can't feel the love tonight

6/17/2007 5:15:21 AM

haha...never realized he was the one that sang that song

6/17/2007 5:16:39 AM

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"well today he said he wants out apparently chicago, new york and one other team speaking on behalf of the bulls fans I say let isiaih overpay him"

The other team is Phoenix, but the ESPN guys said it was unlikely that they trade him within their division.

And the bulls are paying Ben Wallace $20 million, but Kobe at $19 million is overpaid?

6/17/2007 8:36:32 AM

theres nothing wrong with Elton John

6/17/2007 8:45:26 AM

Quote :

"speaking on behalf of the bulls fans I say let isiaih overpay him"

There is a maximum salary in the NBA so its not possible to overpay the best player in the league.

If you took the salary ceiling off, Kobe would be making more money than he is currently because he's actually underpaid based on his production.


In other words, under the current rules it is impossible to "overpay" Kobe Bryant.

6/17/2007 11:47:55 AM

^let's not call $19 million "underpaid" for playing a fucking sport, thanks.

6/17/2007 12:16:18 PM

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"i may be thinking of another year...did the rockets ever have another tall guy and the duo was named "the twin towers" or something?"

Olajuwon and Ralph Sampson

6/17/2007 12:55:42 PM

^^ Why? Because you don't understand economics then i can't make accurate statements? Seems illogical

When an unproductive Steve Francis is making as much money as one of the elite players of all time Kobe Bryant then Kobe Bryant is underpaid.

[Edited on June 17, 2007 at 2:38 PM. Reason : a]

6/17/2007 2:32:07 PM

Just want to mention Keith Van Horn.

Since I'm sure this will turn into a discussion of shitty players who make/made way too much money.

[Edited on June 17, 2007 at 6:42 PM. Reason : .]

6/17/2007 6:42:15 PM

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"^^ Why? Because you don't understand economics then i can't make accurate statements? Seems illogical When an unproductive Steve Francis is making as much money as one of the elite players of all time Kobe Bryant then Kobe Bryant is underpaid"

I understand that Kobe isn't the highest paid player in the game. But notice he's playing basketball, and not curing cancer... $19 million dollars is a SHITLOAD of money for playing a sport, am I wrong? economics, inflation, dumb gm's, civ3, whatever the hell you want to bring up aside... $19 million dollars for an athlete is never underpaid. thanks.

6/18/2007 12:11:23 AM

Considering that if the athletes were paid less, the owners would make more, I don't think they are overpaid at all.

These guys are just sitting in an office, they aren't curing cancer.

They don't even have to put in the kind of dedication that the athletes do to get where they are.

Why should Athletes, who pour their blood, sweat, and tears into the sport since they were little kids, get a much smaller cut and let Joseph Wadsworth III who inherited a billion dollar franchise from his daddy rake in more money?

[Edited on June 18, 2007 at 12:27 AM. Reason : ]

6/18/2007 12:26:17 AM

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"Olajuwon and Ralph Sampson"

That was way back in the late 80s....these guys have been talking about the 2 championship teams the Rockets had in 94/95. And the other big man actually was Otis Thorpe. Robert Horry started at SF for them.

6/18/2007 1:10:44 AM

Actually Otis Thorpe only won one championship in Houston before he was traded for Clyde Drexler.

The starting backcourt was Vernon "Mad" Maxwell and Kenny Smith with Sam Cassell coming off the bench.

6/18/2007 6:52:06 AM

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"Vernon "Mad" Maxwell"

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHEN HE WALKED INTO THE STANDS AND PUNCHED SOME HECKELER IN THE FACE

6/18/2007 9:59:48 AM

Quote :

"That was way back in the late 80s....these guys have been talking about the 2 championship teams the Rockets had in 94/95. And the other big man actually was Otis Thorpe. Robert Horry started at SF for them."

It wasn't way back in the late 80s...it was way back in the mid 80s, by the late 80s Sampson was already limping around wondering what happened to his career. The question was in regard to who the 'Twin Towers' were, and the 'Twin Towers' were most definitely Olajuwon and Sampson.

6/18/2007 12:27:55 PM

Vernon Maxwell was gangster as hell

6/18/2007 12:35:33 PM

ok enough with the over-underpaid issue. where do you guys want Kobe traded and why?

for me, it's Chicago since I feel that Kobe will go down as the top 2 players ever and to be up there #24 beside #23 in the banners And most importantly, combining him with Wallace and some of those other guys would be championship material.

6/18/2007 2:14:48 PM

^that would never happen (at least that way).

If they ever wanted Kobe, they would have to dump the highest salary on their team, which is Wallace.

Either that, or give up Gordon, Deng, Hinrich & Wolfman.

If they were to do that...hell, that would be the Lakers version 2.0

6/18/2007 2:17:12 PM

him and Dwight Howard would be a scary as hell duo in Orlando

6/18/2007 2:45:54 PM

my guess would be Kobe to Chicago for Gordon, Tyrus Thomas, and the #9 pick.

Chicago is hellbent on not giving up Deng and I really doubt the Lakers would even want Wallace.


Hinrich, Kobe, Deng, Nocioni, Wallace.... that team could easily win a title

6/18/2007 5:47:26 PM

now with iverson gone why not go to philley

6/18/2007 5:49:10 PM

^^ right on

6/18/2007 5:54:09 PM

On the one hand, there is some bad blood between Kobe and Philly fans. They booed him during an all-star game several years back, and he talked some shit about the city.

On the other hand, Philly has 3 1st round draft picks.

So who knows.

6/18/2007 5:58:14 PM

Kobe in the East would make a team finals contenders for the next 5 years

6/18/2007 8:44:03 PM

Quote :

"KobeANY STAR PLAYER in the East would make a team finals contenders for the next 5 years"

6/18/2007 11:06:38 PM

6/19/2007 9:44:45 AM

^^like Dwayne Wade this season when they got to the finals

6/19/2007 11:00:52 AM

Yeah, because Dwyane was clearly 100% after that shoulder injury.

Wade is a horrible counter-argument since he put the team on his back in 2006 to win that championship. If there was ever a year where 1 star player willed a team to the title, it was that one.

6/19/2007 11:05:53 AM

but I thought the East was so weak that a < 100% Wade and < 100% Shaq could at least win a single playoff game

course after re-reading the quote above it says finals "contenders" so i dont really disagree as much as i thought i did

[Edited on June 19, 2007 at 11:12 AM. Reason : .]

6/19/2007 11:12:07 AM

If you dont believe that Kobe Bryant is the best basketball player on the planet I challenge you to watch this video:



http://media.kb24.com/index.php?a=video&id=131

6/19/2007 8:33:14 PM

Quote :

""Andrew Bynum? What the f---?" Bryant says in disgust. "Are you kidding me? Andrew Bynum? F---ing ship his ass out. Are you kidding me? We're talking about Jason Kidd. But they didn't even want to do that. Now we're here in this f---ed up position."

6/20/2007 12:11:37 AM

What a sack of shit. Kobe is the worst teammate ever. I'm sure some of you nutriders will defend him, though.

6/20/2007 12:38:33 AM