I know the 360s were defective, but if they were dying so soon, there was definitely an installation error.

8/15/2007 2:33:40 PM

yea i agree...i think you're doin it wrong.

8/15/2007 2:45:58 PM

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"NCAA 2k7"

?????

NCAA 2007?
College Hoops 2K7?

8/15/2007 3:18:32 PM

stop putting it in the oven?

8/15/2007 3:22:53 PM

So which 360 version has the new heatsinks? The elites? My roommate and i are thinking about buying one, but we'd want a newer one.

8/16/2007 1:35:14 PM

All of them have the heatsink now...but get the HDMI premium if you don't need the bigger hard drive and ugly blackness.

8/16/2007 1:36:27 PM

Alright, the HDMI premium was the one we were looking at. Is that the only difference between the elite, and premium? The HD? He wants to mod it, and get a larger HD anyway.

8/16/2007 1:40:55 PM

No difference.

PS: Why would you mod such a wonderful console?

8/16/2007 1:42:16 PM

They have new heatsinks, but from what I've read no one's been able to get one with the 65nm cpu

8/16/2007 1:42:38 PM

^When do the new cpus come out?

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"PS: Why would you mod such a wonderful console?"

It's a secret.

8/16/2007 1:44:39 PM

modding is illegal

i'm sure he meant "mod" it as standing it upright instead of lying it horizontal

other than that I couldn't imagine what he would do

8/16/2007 1:45:55 PM

I don't see how the 65nm CPU is gonna make any improvements.

8/16/2007 1:46:38 PM

if you mod, you pretty much hadicap ALL online features, probably including dl'ing media.

8/16/2007 1:50:08 PM

Does your xbox get banned even if you do the SATA drive trick?

8/16/2007 1:51:15 PM

i think any changing anything internally will get your xbox banned, since they hardware id it.

8/16/2007 1:53:27 PM

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"if you mod, you pretty much hadicap ALL online features, probably including dl'ing media."

Don't mean to stay on the topic of modding, but my buddy has a modded 360 where you can simply turn the mod chip off, and all online features work fine.

8/16/2007 2:03:45 PM

that how all modding worked that i have every seen, but if you mod, whats the point if you can use your mod online?

8/16/2007 2:04:48 PM

^you mean "can't play it online"? Most of the better mod chips have a option to run them w/o the chip so you can use online features. I won't get into specifics about modding, but there's plenty of games you don't need the online features to play.

8/16/2007 2:06:10 PM

Are you sure you're talking about modchips for the xbox 360?

8/16/2007 2:06:43 PM

neo, you are not the only one who knows about modding, lol

modding is pretty much pointless for the most part in my opinion.

8/16/2007 2:07:09 PM

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT MODDING IS AND WHY IT IS DONE?

KKTHXU

8/16/2007 2:09:54 PM

^^^All i know is i went to my friends house (who will remain nameless) in Charlotte and he had a hard mod chip on his 360 that he could turn off/on so he could use online features. Once it's off the online stuff doesn't recognize the mod chip.

8/16/2007 2:13:36 PM

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"Video game consoles A common example is video game console mod chips, which can allow users to play games legitimately purchased in other regions or legal backup copies, but can also allow illegal unauthorized copies by allowing the player to play personally-recorded CD or DVD copies of video games. Modchips, in their current form, were first available for the Sony PlayStation (and later the Playstation 2). Various other types of copyright circumvention systems also existed for the Nintendo 64 and the older Gameboy consoles (though neither include actual modding, but instead backup devices). Types of modding There are two different ways of running unsigned code on a game console. One is through so-called soft modding (modifying software, normally using a softmod) to allow the user to change data contained on its hard drive in the case of the Xbox. Another type of modding, known as hard modding, exploits the bios of the console to run unsigned code, or games. This form of 'modding' (more correctly termed as hacking) is very popular as it is able to 'run' many different types of software, but soft modding is even more popular because of its ease of installation and its relative price (it can even be done for free with the right tools). Another type of console modding is much like computer case modification, which includes lights, cutting the game system case, or adding devices such as whisper quiet fans. Game software On the other side, some companies actively encourage modding of their products. In cases such as TiVo and Google, there has been an informal agreement between the modders and the company in which the modders agree not to do anything that destroys the companies business model and the company agrees to support the modding community by providing technical specifications and information. Some commercial video games thrive through a modding community. In the case of Half-Life, a mod called Counter-Strike drove sales of the original software for years. Space Empires is also a series renowned for its modding capabilities; virtually anyone can make a custom mod for the game, since almost all of the game's critical files are .txt or .bmp files, allowing any Windows user to easily adapt the game to suit their own needs. Skilled computer users who are able to crack data formats and reverse engineer a game can modify them to their heart's content, because the creator of the software has copyright authority over who may use it, or change it. Software is sold with a license that spells out what guarantees, if any, come with the software, and what rights the purchaser has to change the software. Many people do not read these contracts, or store them in such a way to be able to prove what contract came with what purchase, so some computer users are ignorant to what their rights are with respect to backing up software, modifying software, and sharing it with other potential users. "

http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Modding

8/16/2007 2:20:01 PM

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"Another type of console modding is much like computer case modification, which includes lights, cutting the game system case, or adding devices such as whisper quiet fans."

I don't know about you guys, i just wanted to put some pink lights and led fans in my xbox. Make it look all pretty.

[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 2:26 PM. Reason : .]

8/16/2007 2:25:34 PM

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"Don't mean to stay on the topic of modding, but my buddy has a modded 360 where you can simply turn the mod chip off, and all online features work fine."

Buying a mod chip for a 360 is just silly.

8/16/2007 2:43:19 PM

^I mostly agree, except for the fact you can download every single game and stick it on your hd for free (minus online play). I would never do that, previous consoles i've had i paid for the games, but if you're into that kinda thing it's not silly until you get sued by microsoft for a gizillion dollars.

v i don't do it. I was simply saying it's possible.

[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]

8/16/2007 2:45:33 PM

I hate you.

8/16/2007 2:46:28 PM

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"^I mostly agree, except for the fact you can download every single game and stick it on your hd for free (minus online play). I would never do that, previous consoles i've had i paid for the games, but if you're into that kinda thing it's not silly until you get sued by microsoft for a gizillion dollars. "

Maybe you've been living under a rock, but there's a different between the XBox and the XBox 360.

8/16/2007 4:27:27 PM

^oh i'm completely aware of that. We have a modded original xbox in our apartment, and i have a couple friends who have modded 360s. You can download pretty much every single game on the 360 and stick it right on the hd and play them. I don't do it, but i've seen people do it.

If you don't believe me, go here:

http://www.torrentspy.com/

And type in any 360 game, and you'll have hits. I'm not advocating it, i'm simply saying it's possible and i've seen it. So maybe you've been living under a rock.

8/16/2007 4:37:44 PM

Why do you have a modded xbox if you don't do it?

8/16/2007 4:40:18 PM

^my roommate has one. I rarely play it. I get my ass handed to me in halo. I'll occasionally pick it up and play a few games. The only feature i take advantage of on his modded xbox is the ability to use it as a multimedia center, and that comes stock with the 360 so i'll be happy if we get one.

8/16/2007 4:42:31 PM

pretty much most games i enjoy on the 360 i play online, and since a mod chip would allow me to play, but kill online play, i don't need it

8/16/2007 4:44:39 PM

^exactly. I've played a few games on the 360, and i love playing GOW online. It's coming out for pc, so that'll be sweet. The big reason why the original xbox was modded was because you couldn't use it as a multimedia center, but now you can with the 360. It's cool to be able to play all your music in the living room from your computer.

8/16/2007 4:48:22 PM

WHY do you want to mod your 360?

8/16/2007 4:52:20 PM

If my roommate buys the 360, he's going to mod it, no matter what. So if i help him do the research to mod it, we get an xbox 360.

8/16/2007 4:57:53 PM

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"You can download pretty much every single game on the 360 and stick it right on the hd and play them."

No, you can't.

You can download the games. You can burn them to dual layer DVDs. You cannot play them off a hard drive.

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"I don't do it, but i've seen people do it."

No, you haven't.

8/16/2007 6:13:57 PM

i wish dipshit liars like this would be suspended, this is absurd

8/16/2007 6:50:23 PM

any idea how low it takes to get these things repaired? I just put in the order tonight ...

9/22/2007 1:31:05 AM