pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
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bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Usually my dogs and the neighborhood dogs get the carcass.
[Edited on November 14, 2007 at 8:36 AM. Reason : ] 11/14/2007 8:34:04 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
this shit is absurd. i about hit one once a month driving around holly springs rd 11/14/2007 8:40:28 AM |
Squirt All American 5656 Posts user info edit post |
I will be shooting my first gun next weekend 11/14/2007 12:32:10 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^ Its gonna be AWESOME, I promise!!! 11/14/2007 2:16:12 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
going bear hunting in carteret county tomorrow then driving to anson county to deer hunt friday and saturday
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bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^ I am soooo jealous of the bear hunting part. 11/14/2007 2:22:54 PM |
WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
You killed Bambi......you should be ashamed.
Although the other night, Bambi decided he wanted to introduce himself to the corner of my car. 11/14/2007 3:48:13 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
bambi is tasti though 11/14/2007 3:48:46 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
I thought this thread was about killing an unnamed person. 11/14/2007 3:49:46 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
No, I didn't kill Bambi. Bambi was a male roe deer in the original book, but was a male white-tail in the movie. I killed a doe, so sort of Bambi's mother. Except, its kinda dumb to call all deer "Bambi"... that's like calling all pigs "Wilbur", or all chickens "Chicken Little", or all rats "Templeton"... And I should not be ashamed - I intended to kill that deer. You should be ashamed for being so irresponsible and killing things "on accident". Also, I took that deer home... I bet you left it laying in the road. Not even getting out to get it out of the road and being considerate of other drivers.
[Edited on November 14, 2007 at 7:52 PM. Reason : ] 11/14/2007 7:48:10 PM |
whtmike2k All American 2504 Posts user info edit post |
i still think you should only be allowed one of 3 weapons in deer hunting: a bow and arrow (old school kind, not the shit thats just about a gun they have now), a big knife, or some indian-type weapon. and your bare hands (so maybe 4 weapons).
now that's what i'd call a fucking sport. 11/14/2007 8:17:35 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
People underestimate the advantages a deer has in the woods. They have greater sight, scent, and hearing than humans by a tremendous amount. That being said, once the deer is located, thousands of years of evolution and opposable thumbs give us a decided advantage.
Quote : | "You killed Bambi......you should be ashamed." | If there is shame in the death of an animal, it is the shame of all humanity. At least bethaleigh intends to make use of the meat of the deer, by our daily activities -- especially as Americans -- we cause far more natural destruction than one girl in the woods with a gun.
The realities of death, and life, are thrown into sharp relief when kneeling over a wild animal that has died at ones own hands. It is not blood-lust that draws me to the woods, it is the acknowledgment that life is a gift I cannot take for granted.
^ As the number of hunters shrink, the number of primitive hunters actually increases. It simply takes more time than most people have to develop the skills necessary to hunt with a recurve.11/14/2007 8:27:59 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
you people are arguing with hippies/faggots. Do you realize where that puts you on the food chain? 11/14/2007 8:41:26 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^ YEAH, AT THE TOP, BECAUSE WE WIN!!! 11/14/2007 10:18:49 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
Anybody else on here like squirrel or am I the only one? 11/14/2007 10:20:19 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yes. Squirrel is good, if its cooked right. Otherwise, it tastes like rodent. 11/14/2007 10:21:18 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
11/14/2007 10:22:29 PM |
LovedYoMoma All American 5419 Posts user info edit post |
i'm sure this has been covered allready, but isn't illegal to kill does? 11/14/2007 11:24:01 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
Mmm, deer burger sounds good. Let me know when you guys inviting people over. I want to try some deer meat. 11/15/2007 12:35:06 AM |
Lucky1 All American 6154 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm sure this has been covered allready, but isn't illegal to kill does?
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no, no its not.11/15/2007 1:49:49 AM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ good lord 11/15/2007 1:53:04 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm sure this has been covered allready, but isn't illegal to kill does?" |
Absolutely not, it is one of the best things you can possibly do to a deer population if you are seriously trying to manage it. If you're just hunting and have no other interest in the population - it don't matter what you take.11/15/2007 1:42:29 PM |
WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No, I didn't kill Bambi. Bambi was a male roe deer in the original book, but was a male white-tail in the movie. I killed a doe, so sort of Bambi's mother. Except, its kinda dumb to call all deer "Bambi"... that's like calling all pigs "Wilbur", or all chickens "Chicken Little", or all rats "Templeton"... And I should not be ashamed - I intended to kill that deer. You should be ashamed for being so irresponsible and killing things "on accident". Also, I took that deer home... I bet you left it laying in the road. Not even getting out to get it out of the road and being considerate of other drivers." |
That's funny! You actually clarified/corrected me. LOL Anyway, I actually didn't even hit the deer. My car is fine. I just caught part of his legs when he "scampered" off.11/15/2007 2:38:15 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Think about it.. 1/2 ton (maybe more) vehicle catching a deer's fragile legs... You wounded it, it has now drug itself off into a field where it will be defenseless against a predator or it will starve to death. Way to go.
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jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
if you run over a deer, is it kosher to claim said deer like you would one that you murdered with a gun?
i mean, say you^, hit a deer. would you load it up and have your way with it like you do a shot deer?
[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 12:21 AM. Reason : by have you way with it, i mean make it into burgers and mocasins ] 11/16/2007 12:20:24 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Yes. If it was dead, I would get out, approach it, and load it up. Take it home, skin, clean, and quarter it. Of course, some meat will be bad and not edible - so it would get (maybe cooked and) fed to the dogs. If it was not dead - I would either finish it off myself, or if I had nothing in my truck - I would call someone else to bring a knife or something else to come finish it off. I would not leave an animal in the road, leave an animal suffering, or leave it to be somoene else's problem. Its best to put an animal out of its misery when it is beyond natural healing.
Does it not piss you off to be driving down a dark road real late at night and have to swerve to miss a deer in THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD? It sure does make me mad that people are so inconsiderate. 11/16/2007 12:26:25 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
i've only come across dead ones on the side of the road.
i mean, if you hit it hard enough to kill it in its tracks, you probably fucked up your car pretty badly, so im guessing you'd have to get out and look over the damage or get a tow truck or something, and you'd probably move it out of your way, i.e.) off the road
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benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
i had some venison for the first time at a nice restaraunt the other night, honestly that shit tasted like a tough, sour version of veal. not "gamey", just "off". does that mean they probably spilled the bile and other gastric contents into the meat during gutting? 11/16/2007 12:29:40 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Man, I hate coming down Centennial at night during the rut becauce there can be some BIG deer in the road, taking up an entire lane... you either swerve or run straight over it. I don't pick up other people's roadkill because that's just... well, odd. We got a call a few weeks ago from some friends who had a doe pull herself from the road to another area. They saw her unable to get up and you know what had happened... so they finished her off. We went and got her and processed her a few minutes later.
^ Honestly, some people/places do not know what they are doing when it comes to cooking deer... I have never paid to eat deer, so I would be pissed if it wasn't awesome. Its possible that there was either bile or urine on it, but more than likely, it just wasn't cooked correctly. If you know what you're doing whrn gutting, its pretty hard to burst the gut or bladder...
[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 12:34 AM. Reason : ] 11/16/2007 12:32:01 AM |
benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
^ i think so too. surely no one would buy meat that was spoiled from improper cleaning. but yeah that meat was tough as shit, i didnt finish it. they really didnt try to do anything fancy with it either, it was just roasted or something with minimal marinade, served alone. 11/16/2007 12:35:32 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Too much marinade can take away from the real flavor of the game. There are so many game laws against selling wild game as it is, I can't imagine anyone trying to sell bad meat. Deer CAN be tough, mainly from overcooking - or the nature of the kill. If it runs a country mile before death, you can bet on tough meat. You need some deer of your own to experiment with or you need some that was cooked right! Just do yourself a favor and DO NOT let that experience ruin your willingness to eat game!
[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 12:41 AM. Reason : ] 11/16/2007 12:40:14 AM |
benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
oh i'll eat anything if im hungry enough. right now i would need to be a 7/10 on the hungry scale to order venison again...perhaps after a better experience that will go down to say 4 or 5 (for example, a good steak ranks 2-3 for me) 11/16/2007 12:43:12 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Where were you when you ordered venison? I don't think I would ever order venison, personally, but something more rare to me like elk or bison I would try. 11/16/2007 12:47:31 AM |
benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
The Underground (restaurant below Charlie Goodnight's) 11/16/2007 12:50:33 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
oh ok... Didn't know about that. (That's where we had my 21st birthday party)
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NutGrass All American 3695 Posts user info edit post |
i've been pretty clutch this season at hunting. i killed my first one ever with a bow and arrow, my first year ever bow hunting, a three pointer:
and then i killed this eight pointer a few weekends ago, which will be going on the wall:
bethaleigh, you said that doe was 150 lbs??? i'm not seeing it, this eight pointer was a big deer, and it only weighed 160 lbs, we weighed it. whats up??? that doe looks like it may be 100-110, come on now
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bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
She was about 150 including guts, we didn't dress her until we got her home. She probably was about 100ish once dressed. We did not weigh her, but my Dad has killed soooooo many deer and he is usually spot on when it comes to his estimates. You can't tell from the pictures how big around she was, but her belly was BIG, (but she wasn't all that fatty like I kinda expected her to be.)
(That Husky in the pic, you can't see him all that well, but he weighs about 110-115. She DEFINITELY had quite a bit on him! ) 11/16/2007 9:09:35 AM |
NutGrass All American 3695 Posts user info edit post |
well, the buck i killed was 160 with the guts also. none the less, i didn't see the doe but i would put 120 tops on her. thats my guess. 85-90 lbs dressed out. either way, gg. 11/16/2007 9:56:58 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i still think you should only be allowed one of 3 weapons in deer hunting:" |
my weight lifting/archery instructor had all kinds of cool stories about killing deer bow/arrow... That's a hell of a lot more of a sport than sitting there with a gun, any idiot can shoot a gun11/16/2007 10:06:04 AM |
QTPie All American 7496 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't read the WHOLE thread so forgive me if this is a repeat.....
Anyone else noticed the overwhelming amount of deer killed on interstates lately, or is it just me?
Driving home on 540 is like a visual blood bath on the pavement. Ewww
I'd rather someone at least get meat out of them, than see them ruing someone's car & lay curled up in a ball dead in the road.
And for the record, I'm not going to stop eating steak and chicken, either. 11/16/2007 10:19:17 AM |
Neil Street All American 3066 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I killed her in her tracks at about 15 yards!! I could hardly see her through the scope" |
I know you can't just decide to take the scope off, but that's just weird to read.11/16/2007 11:00:08 AM |
NutGrass All American 3695 Posts user info edit post |
^^^you know, i have hunted with rifles and shotguns all my life and just got into bow hunting this year. i will agree with you, bow hunting is definitely more sport/skill worthy than rifle hunting. i had an awesome time at it. being the longtime rifle hunter that i am, i would still support a law against rifle hunting and move to only shotguns or bow and arrow. i don't think its fair to shoot one 150 yds plus. i do believe it takes skill to kill one with a bow and arrow though. 11/16/2007 11:14:11 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i would put 120 tops on her." |
Oh heck no, you definitely are underestimating. I guess I should have taken a better picture so you could see how deep and thick she was.
It may not take a lot of "skill" per se to carry around a rifle and sit in the woods, but it takes precision and self control to get the right shot at one. Any idiot can shoot a gun, but not just any idiot can safely shoot an animal. The only difference in a rifle and a bow is that you have to let the animal get closer... nothing more. They have the same ability to stop an animal with a well placed shot. To me, that constitutes nothing more than self control. You still have to let one come in with a bow, and with a rifle as small as mine, you have to thread the needle through the branches, twigs, and leaves by waiting for it to give you an open shot.
UPDATE: 2 MORE DOES IN THE FREEZER BECAUSE Lucky1 GOT 2 DOES THIS EVENING!!! One at 200 yards, not sure about the other.
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Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
11/20/2007 9:41:57 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "waiting for it to give you an open shot" |
sounds super tough11/20/2007 9:46:30 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
HECK YEAH! I GOT ME ANOTHER DOE THIS AFTERNOON AT ABOUT 12:30!
She's not as big as the last one, but I had my pick of 5. After I shot her, the two smaller ones with her stood about 20 yards from me just looking at me for like 3 minutes. My Daddy told me to shoot one of them, but I didn't want to. After that, those 2 finally went the other direction. The other 2 left and then suddenly came back in a group of 6 or 7 does. They then stood less than 15 yards away from me, walking as close as about 8 yards. I wasn't going to shoot another one, but my Daddy got on the radio and told me to take one. So, I cocked it, and got ready when one finally saw me. I was talking on the radio for at least 3 minutes in a quiet but normal voice while they stood that close to me and never even looked my way! Once they finally did look my way - they STILL never saw me. When my foot fell asleep and I shifted was when one finally saw me and they all took off. That group of 6 or 7 only had 2 good sized does in it - but I was ready for one of them. A successful day putting meat in the freezer! 12/21/2007 4:48:45 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
You killed another animal. Yay! 12/21/2007 4:51:23 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
I knew you would be first to post. 12/21/2007 4:54:20 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
You killed another animal. Yay! 12/21/2007 4:55:09 PM |