jesus christ Georgia fans are bitching and bitching...


hearing a lot of "I wouldnt pay a dime to see us play fucking hawaii", "what a worthless game", "we got completely robbed and cheated out of the NC game"


and the dumbass logic they are using... jesus

12/3/2007 7:59:57 PM

you're never cheated out of a national title game if you have two losses and can't win your division...

12/3/2007 8:03:05 PM

for any uga fan to feel cheated out of the MNC game is laughable

the only two sides to the sugar bowl argument are "awesome, we're going to murder hawaii and their gimmicky offense" and "shit, we're going to be murdered by hawaii and their gimmicky offense"

i'd go with the former

12/3/2007 8:03:07 PM

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"the big ten is typically a pretty strong conference"

lol yeah if by pretty strong you mean the 6th strongest bcs conference

12/3/2007 8:04:54 PM

its ALL over the AJC down here....


they claim "we have the same record as LSU, only difference, we beat Kentucky, they didnt.."


oh really? only difference? what about them beating Tennessee and Tennessee beating the shit out of you for the 2nd year in a row?

12/3/2007 8:09:21 PM

Georgia is just pissed because they play a non-bcs school. If they win, they were supposed to, if they lose, they're the laughing stock of the SEC and probably country. lose-lose situation.

12/3/2007 8:10:09 PM

I agree... they have nothing to gain, everything to lose

12/3/2007 8:12:39 PM

yup. they had better win, and win big.

12/3/2007 8:17:03 PM

I'll laugh when LSU blows tOSU FUCKeyes out of the water; proving that for the 2nd year in a row they did not deserve to be at the NC game and how fucking ridiculous the Bowl Computer Series really is.

The BCS to sports is like the Electoral College of politics. Fucking over the fans and players; giving the powers to a few tool bags to make the decision.

Unless you are a tOSU fan or have a major stock investment in one of the media firms I do not see how anyone can support the BCS as a legitimate way of choosing the "Champion" of college football.

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 10:12 PM. Reason : l]

12/3/2007 10:02:44 PM

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"DROD900 All American 11623 Posts user info edit post how about LSU playing Louisiana Tech the 3rd to last week of the season or Florida playing Florida Atlantic the 3rd to last week of the season or Tennessee playing Louisiana Lafayette in November this is a stupid fucking argument, EVERYBODY SCHEDULES CUPCAKES 12/3/2007 7:54:26 PM pttyndal All American 10963 Posts user info edit post look at the fuckeyes' schedule top to bottom, then look at LSU, UF, and Tenn. 12/3/2007 7:59:52 PM"

Basically. When you have a schedule as tough as the SEC, you are allowed to schedule cupcakes. When you have a schedule as lame as tOSUs, if you don't attempt to schedule real teams, you're ghey. Take your blinders off.

12/3/2007 10:23:36 PM

Ok, so you use the conference schedule as an arguement against someone who was speaking strictly of the OOC schedule, nice. Everybody knows playing an SEC schedule is much tougher than playing a Big Ten schedule, and nobody was trying to say otherwise.

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 10:38 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2007 10:38:26 PM

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"proving that for the 2nd year in a row they did not deserve to be at the NC game and how fucking ridiculous the Bowl Computer Series really is"

that's bullshit

last year it was florida who everyone thought should have been left out, everyone was predicting OSU would demolish them

short memory, huh?

12/3/2007 10:42:37 PM

was a little different since UF was only one of a few one loss teams and won their conference and even the loss was close. this year it could have gone many ways.

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 10:47 PM. Reason : not that osu doesnt really deserve to be out this year either for similar reasons. more a comment ]

12/3/2007 10:45:59 PM

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"Basically. When you have a schedule as tough as the SEC, you are allowed to schedule cupcakes."

exactly... go play LSU, Florida, Auburn, Georgia, and Tennessee 5 weeks in a row and you are allowed a game against directional U

12/3/2007 10:46:30 PM

i love how all the georgia fans are bitching

the ajc has shit itself

12/3/2007 10:55:39 PM

^ yup... most selective logic bullshit I have ever seen

12/3/2007 11:03:12 PM

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"Ok, so you use the conference schedule as an arguement against someone who was speaking strictly of the OOC schedule, nice. Everybody knows playing an SEC schedule is much tougher than playing a Big Ten schedule, and nobody was trying to say otherwise."

Yes...yes someone was trying to say otherwise, specifically the guy I used the argument against. Damn, try to keep up.

12/3/2007 11:06:43 PM

RAMBO

12/3/2007 11:07:58 PM

that's why I said look at the quality of teams on ohio state's schedule and then one of the sec schools. Anyone with an ounce of brain power would see how easy ohio state's road to the national championship is.

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 11:24 PM. Reason : ]

12/3/2007 11:10:07 PM

DROD900 didn't say anything about the conference schedules, but he was right when he said,

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"this is a stupid fucking argument"

^I agree, it is so much easier than any SEC team which is not at all what I was trying to argue, I was originally trying to refute the point someone made that OSU doesn't schedule any difficult OOC opponents.

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 11:13 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2007 11:11:12 PM

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"if you don't attempt to schedule real teams, you're ghey"

I think calling teams cupcakes is gay

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"ast year it was florida who everyone thought should have been left out, everyone was predicting OSU would demolish them"

you proved my point. tOSU was obviously overrated and a torn of SEC team was better

12/3/2007 11:32:50 PM

guess what guys, argue and bitch and moan all you want to, it doesnt change the fact that the BUCKEYES ARE #1 AND PLAYING IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW

and munster, whatever you tried to say in that last sentence didnt make sense, even though I think I know what you were probably trying to say

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 12:04 AM. Reason : asdf]

12/4/2007 12:03:58 AM

playing for it doesnt mean shit if you get blown out 2 years in a row

12/4/2007 12:04:26 AM

they need to go ahead and take the "C" out of BCS

dont wear it out

12/4/2007 12:04:42 AM

oh yes, yes it does

12/4/2007 12:04:57 AM

you wanna put some money on the game?

12/4/2007 12:06:29 AM

OH MAN I WISH WE HAD GOT TO SEE MICHIGAN PLAY OHIO STATE FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP LAST YEAR

THOSE ARE THE TWO BEST TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT

12/4/2007 12:18:43 AM

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"BUCKEYES ARE #1 AND PLAYING IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW "

yay the champions b.c some computer program took the derivative of the points scored multiplied by games won. This result was added to the integral of win-loss record of opponents played. Divide by 69 , add in some homosexuality.

Lastly this result is squared and plugged into the log of base equal to the pussiness of the school mascot. Bamm tOSU and LSU BCS champions!!

12/4/2007 12:31:59 AM

VT won the computer ranking...

12/4/2007 12:34:04 AM

someone convince me that the Big TelevEN is better than either the ACC, SEC, Pac10, Big 12, or Big East

12/4/2007 12:39:58 AM

^why do you need convincing???

it's not

12/4/2007 12:41:35 AM

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"VT won the computer ranking"

well thats even worse. The BCS was selected by a bunch of sport enthusiasts/ sports writers having wet dreams over which game would give them the best story and make their parent companies the most $$$. If this was a national gov't instead of sports we'd call this corruption.

12/4/2007 12:42:57 AM

^^i just want to give a chance to any big 10 homers to make their case

12/4/2007 12:55:59 AM

dunno if it really needs to be said again, but VT won the computer ranking because the computers don't know how much VT lost to LSU by, nor do they know that LSU lost twice in 3OT. the computers were crippled by the same kind of bullshit that prevents any kind of ranking scheme from being useful for anything other than a decorative piece for the newspaper sports page.

12/4/2007 1:07:03 AM

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"Some people will say that it is because the other conferences "clearly" aren't good enough to deserve the championship. If that is the case, then why are they in the same league? Why are they in the same league if they aren't good enough to compete? Again, name me ONE league where teams are excluded from competing for the championship at all. Sure, the Baltimore Orioles suck, but they can still make it to the World Series. Boise State, however, will NEVER play for a national championship under the current system, and they probably would never play for one in an 8-team field either."

Why does everyone hate on this part of his argument? If they are 1-A then they should have the same chance to play for the title as any. He is right. Look at Hawaii. Undefeated and no shot at the championship even though 20 teams have 2 losses and are still in front of them. If they really are that bad send them down to 1-AA and have a 50/60 league 1-A. I think it was Woodfoot who wanted to know how long the FCS or 1-AA season is and they play 11 games just like most 1-A teams so that is a moot point. Appalachian will be 13-2 if they win it all again this year. That is exactly 1 game than any 1-A team will play.

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"^why do you need convincing??? it's not"

This guy is a freaking Michigan fan and can admit it. Anyone with a brain can admit that the SEC is the best football conference.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:10 AM. Reason : Fuck the BCS]

12/4/2007 1:08:53 AM

Do you really believe that the Big Ten is unquestionably the worst conference right now? I mean it's not like they're competing for the top spot, but there was a whole lot of mediocrity all over the place this year. The Big East, Big 12 and ACC are certainly nothing special.

12/4/2007 1:12:19 AM

^^When you play in a crappy conference, you'd better not play a crappy non-conference schedule if you want respect and a shot at the national championship. Hawaii is content going undefeated against a bunch of lousy teams, and that is fine with me. But they chose to play for a perfect record instead of a schedule that would test them and warrant national championship consideration.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:16 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 1:14:39 AM

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"well thats even worse. The BCS was selected by a bunch of sport enthusiasts/ sports writers having wet dreams over which game would give them the best story and make their parent companies the most $$$."

nothing better than retards who don't know shit about the BCS arguing against it

none of the bcs rankings are in any way affiliated with any media outlet

usa today prints the sagarin rankings, that's about as close as you'll get

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:16 AM. Reason : ]

12/4/2007 1:15:25 AM

^^ no man, it's b/c no one wants to fly out to hawaii!!

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:16 AM. Reason : i hate hawaii]

12/4/2007 1:15:45 AM

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"The Big East, Big 12 and ACC are certainly nothing special."

You mean the Big 12 that has 3 of the top 10 teams in the country? The ACC wasn't great but UVA, Va Tech, BC and Clemson were pretty good...Big East wasn't great but they nearly had a team in the championship game and teams like UConn, Cincy and South Florida were solid...meanwhile the 2nd or 3rd best team in the Big Ten lost to App State

btw you do realize that NORTHWESTERN LOST A HOME GAME TO DUKE IN FOOTBALL, dont you? that in itself should put the Big 10 in dead last...they lost a fucking home football game to DUKE

12/4/2007 1:26:53 AM

Or you know, they could man up and play a road game a la Boise State (who got creamed at UGA), instead of just playing Charleston Southern and Northern Colorado. To be fair, they scheduled the mighty Washington Huskies and UNLV in nonconference play as well.

They managed to come from one of the softer conferences, and make their nonconference schedule even worse. WTG Hawaii.

12/4/2007 1:30:58 AM

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:32 AM. Reason : ]

12/4/2007 1:32:01 AM

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"They managed to come from one of the softer conferences, and make their nonconference schedule even worse. WTG Hawaii."

they were playing to be undefeated and got what they deserved.

12/4/2007 1:33:11 AM

if we had a playoff hawaii could go undefeated and get punched in the mouth by a bcs conference team...oh a playoff

12/4/2007 1:34:51 AM

that's still looking very likely to happen.

12/4/2007 1:38:16 AM

i'm not as optimistic as you...i'd love it but i don't see it happening any time soon

although the +1 is a step in the right direction

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:38 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 1:38:47 AM

i meant it's very likely that hawaii gets punched in the mouth by a bcs team. i do not want a playoff in college football.

12/4/2007 1:40:49 AM

well in that case i agree about hawaii

but i, like most college football fans, DO want a playoff considering pretty much every other level of every sport has one...or maybe we should get some pollsters to select which two teams play in the superbowl or world series...or maybe just pick the final 4 of the ncaa bball tourney before it starts...do those sound like good ideas?

12/4/2007 1:44:26 AM

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"i do not want a playoff in college football."

i don't understand the argument against a playoff from a fan's perspective

explain yourself

12/4/2007 1:46:51 AM

the only people i know who are against a playoff tend to be fans of traditional powerhouses, ie ohio state, michigan, oklahoma, southern cal, alabama, etc...they know that they already have love from the writers and coaches and will have a good preseason ranking consistently, which is a huge inherent advantage in the shitty playoff-less current system

if state was regularly in the preseason top 10 i could see myself being against a playoff too...but for fans of the other 100 teams in the country...a playoff is obviously the best thing

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:50 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 1:48:04 AM