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"Join fellow Wolpackers in historic Reynolds Coliseum on Thursday, January 31st for the NC State at Duke game on a giant 16x20 foot screen as the Pack shuts down the Tarheels."


[Edited on January 30, 2008 at 9:13 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2008 9:12:47 PM

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1/30/2008 9:27:08 PM

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I think Coach K saying "I think states playing its best basketball right now" isnt implying what you guys are saying it is. I take that as him saying that we're playing the best we've played this season.......not the best that we can

1/30/2008 9:28:18 PM

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OMFG!!!!11111 media biasness!111one

1/30/2008 9:28:28 PM

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i dont think he meant anything bad with that statement.

1/30/2008 9:39:40 PM

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I shot this video in 2004 after the Duke game. Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUw-6hSrwNk

[Edited on January 30, 2008 at 10:43 PM. Reason : I suck]

1/30/2008 10:42:35 PM

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<~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Will be at the game yelling loud as hell for the pack

1/30/2008 10:46:52 PM

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If you beat up a few dukies, I will contribute to your bail.

1/30/2008 10:48:17 PM

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"Wednesday, January 30, 2008

Costner doesn't have to score to contribute

Over four days during last year’s ACC tournament, N.C. State forward Brandon Costner was the best player in the conference.

He led the team in scoring at 16.8 points per game last season, but is averaging just 5.8 points over five ACC games this season. He didn’t score and attempted just one field goal in Saturday’s win at Florida State.

With freshman center J.J. Hickson the new focus of the offense in the post and guard Courtney Fells now the top option from 3-point range, coach Sidney Lowe was asked Wednesday how Costner can get back on track.

“It’s going to be tough,” Lowe said. “But it’s not so much the number of points that he scores. It’s what else he’s doing to help the team. Is it double-digit rebounds? If he only gets four shots, can he make two? Can he make three? He doesn’t have to get 15 points.”

N.C. State (13-6, 2-3 ACC) needs Costner to be more productive if it’s going to make a serious run at an NCAA tournament bid. In the past, Costner has demonstrated the inside-out ability to match talented Duke freshman Kyle Singler, who will be one of the key players in Thursday night’s game at Cameron Indoor Stadium.

But Lowe is making it sound as though Costner needs to make his mark on defense and the boards before he gets a lot of shots.“There’s so much more that he can do to help the team,” Lowe said, “and I think he understands that, and he’s capable of doing that.” – Ken Tysiac

Posted by Observer Sports at 5:43 PM "


http://aboverim.blogspot.com/2008/01/costner-doesnt-have-to-score-to.html

1/30/2008 11:25:48 PM

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"I shot this video in 2004 after the Duke game. Check it out!"


nice song choice

i need to find the sportscenter footage...me and locuomotion were the first on the court

1/30/2008 11:29:42 PM

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Coach Lowe vs. Coach K

http://www.wral.com/sports/blogpost/2377216/

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"Regardless of the outcome of the Thursday night matchup between Duke and N.C. State — it's hard to find anyone who's serious about picking the Wolfpack to win in Durham — the pairing brings to mind a big-picture question.

What signs are there, if any, that State coach Sidney Lowe is doing the things he needs to do in order to narrow the canyon-sized gap between his program and Duke, led by the legendary Mike Krzyzewski?

Along those lines, here are three things worth watching:

1. Recruiting.

There's no need to guess what Krzyzewski would have done with inadequate talent while trying to build his program, because it actually happened. Like everyone else with grossly inferior players, Coach K lost — and lost a lot. His first three Duke teams finished 17-13, 10-17 and 11-17 from 1981-83, never finishing higher than sixth in the eight-team ACC and never reaching the .500 mark within the conference.

Only when Krzyzewski started to recruit well did his fortunes take a dramatic turn for the better. Showing both an eye for talent and the ability to sign prep All-Americans — even at a time when Duke was not a popular destination of the top high school prospects — Coach K secured a landmark class (led by Johnny Dawkins, Mark Alarie, David Henderson and Jay Bilas) for the 1982-83 season. As freshmen in 1983, that group suffered through an 11-17 campaign that ended with an embarrassing 109-66 loss to Virginia in the first round of the ACC Tournament. As seniors in 1986, they won the ACC title and went on to play for the national championship.

So began the Duke dynasty under Krzyzewski. The Blue Devils' on-court success made it much easier to recruit, which made it much easier to win, which again improved the recruiting pitch, which again kept the all-stars and victories coming. That cycle continues in Durham to this day, 25 years after it started.

Lowe is in only his second season at N.C. State, but already he has signed one prep All-American (freshman center J.J. Hickson). Looking ahead, Lowe already has a commitment from local forward C.J. Leslie, one of the top 25 prospects in the high school sophomore class.

It's only a start for Lowe, but there are plenty of ACC coaches who come and go without signing anyone of that caliber, so it's a good start.

2. Fingerprints.

Think of an extremely successful coach. Close your eyes. Picture his team. It's easy, right? Regardless of the year, and regardless of the talent on hand at the time, that highly successful coach's teams will have some obvious, important things in common.

Krzyzewski has assembled his empire, in large part, on the building blocks of consistently intense effort and toughness — home or away, regardless of the opponent — and aggressive, in-your-face defense. Lots of other things change from year to year, but those things stay pretty consistent. Dean Smith's long-term foundation at UNC included a selfless approach, efficient post production and the Four Corners. Other great coaches have had other signatures.

There's no single path to success, but Lowe must find his unique fingerprint, and leave it on each of his teams.

3. Improvement.

No coach bats 100 percent in this regard, but the best ones pull it off far more often than not. Their teams are markedly better at the end of the season than they were at the beginning, and their players are noticeably better at the ends of their careers than they were at the beginning.

Would Duke's Chris Carrawell, a good talent but not a great one, have developed into the ACC player of the year at another school? Would J.J. Redick have leveled off as an All-ACC shooting specialist rather than becoming a two-time consensus All-American? Would Shelden Williams have become more than a shotblocker and rebounder, as he did late in his Duke career but as many other talented big men never do?

In terms of team development, Lowe is one-for-one at N.C. State. Last year's Wolfpack came close to winning the ACC Tournament after going 5-11 in the ACC during the regular season. Injuries were a factor along the way, but so was a group of kids who believed in their coaching staff, kept working hard and never lost hope, despite a significant amount of adversity.

This year's Duke-State games will tell everyone a little bit about Lowe and the 2008 Wolfpack.

But only the bigger picture — including the recruiting, "fingerprints" and improvement angles — will tell a lot about Lowe and his long-term future with the Pack."

1/30/2008 11:58:37 PM

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a good article i suppose...

whatever.

1/31/2008 1:30:38 AM

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1/31/2008 2:17:03 AM

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"Costner doesn't have to score to contribute"


while somewhat true, a few points here and there would be appreciated.

i would consider it a HUGE contribution if he could play better defense and turn the ball over less. points are definitely second to that.

1/31/2008 8:46:16 AM

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1/31/2008 8:48:49 AM

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where did you get that? that's kind of neat.

some good points on there too... makes me worried. singler vs. hickson will be no contest though.

1/31/2008 8:54:15 AM

Brass Monkey
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The N&O website

1/31/2008 8:55:37 AM

d7freestyler
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wow, i'm an idiot... didn't even see it written across the bottom of the picture

1/31/2008 8:59:18 AM

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http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/914457.html
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/914379.html

http://www.wral.com/sports/story/2374703/
http://www.wral.com/sports/blogpost/2377216/






[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 9:33 AM. Reason : [Edited on January 31, 2008 at 9:33 AM. Reason : edit]]

1/31/2008 9:32:40 AM

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I know some of our students who were lucky enough to get tickets to the game. I asked them what they would be wearing and he responded with white. Show some love for your school even if we get killed and even if you are a dookie at heart but go here...

1/31/2008 9:41:32 AM

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i have tickets to the game, im straight up wearing a RED marcus melvin jersey, GO PACK

1/31/2008 9:45:53 AM

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I do think it is funny that our defensive scheme is designed to help us block out, but yet we give up all sorts of offensive rebounds

1/31/2008 9:46:02 AM

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i would KILL to go to this game in red.

i've done it at the dean dome when we got our asses blasted... i'm not scared!

1/31/2008 9:46:54 AM

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http://www.thebigtailgate.com/can-state-score-on-duke-222.htm#more-222

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"If college basketball were the animal kingdom and North Carolina and Duke were offensive lions, State might be a three-legged wildebeest."


...your mom might be a three-legged wildebeest

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 10:11 AM. Reason : .]

1/31/2008 10:10:10 AM

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i have a bad feeling about this chewie

ncsu -upper 60's
duke -lower 80's

1/31/2008 11:24:21 AM

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I think we're going to have a 6pt lead with 5mins left in the game, and win off of some Gavin Grant free throws in OT

WOOOOOOOOOOLF...

1/31/2008 11:26:29 AM

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...PACK.

1/31/2008 11:48:50 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKILlCdfNic&feature=related

damn this is a good video too look how drunk everyone was.. i see nothing has changed except our basketball team being shitty.

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 11:56 AM. Reason : link]

1/31/2008 11:56:24 AM

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"3. Improvement."


I think this point is a key reason that Herb never fully got the job done here. Very few of our players got much better over their careers and some got worse under Herb.

1/31/2008 12:05:52 PM

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yeah i was watching part of an arizona state game the other day and i was thinking to myself "damn herb looks like he's got some players...i wonder how long til he underutilizes their true skills"

if herb was still here, hickson's primary role would be to hold the ball at the top of the key and just wait

1/31/2008 12:08:15 PM

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^ Herb would have brought Jordan Collins back in and taught Hickson the art of standing at the top of the key and how to shoot nasty looking 3s.

1/31/2008 12:17:51 PM

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devil's advocate: i bet herb could do more for Costner this year than what we have seen from him.

1/31/2008 12:56:33 PM

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probably have Costner jacking up more 3's

i do think Herb might've continued to start Ben and Brandan and made JJ come off the bench simply because he was a freshman...might have helped chemistry, but we'd be bitching about that decision as well...WHY DOESNT HERB START HICKSON!!11

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2008 12:58:46 PM

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NCSU: 71
Duke: 88

- grant is top scorer with 18 points.
- 6+ minute drought at one point during the game.
- fells goes to the bench with four fouls, with 5:22 left in 2nd half.
- ferguson doesn't play.
- hickson will have 14 points, 6 rebounds.

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 1:30 PM. Reason : more predictions.]

1/31/2008 1:25:02 PM

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NCSU: 82
Duke: 71

1/31/2008 1:26:28 PM

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Us: 59
Them: 80

1/31/2008 1:28:23 PM

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they are 18 point favoirtes according to Vegas. That's too many points.

1/31/2008 1:37:00 PM

TreeTwista10
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^i dunno, i took State as the dogs @ UNC a couple weeks ago

1/31/2008 1:38:00 PM

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No, its probably right on.

1/31/2008 1:38:35 PM

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State is 31% ATS this year

1/31/2008 1:45:20 PM

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When have we gone into cameron and NOT lost by 20.

Come on guys.

1/31/2008 2:55:35 PM

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us:71
them:87



1/31/2008 2:58:16 PM

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^^

01/31/08

THAT'S WHEN, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 2:59 PM. Reason : :]

1/31/2008 2:59:07 PM

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Duke is 88% ATS at home this year

1/31/2008 3:00:16 PM

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pomeroy says...

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"Thu Jan 31 North Carolina St. vs. (3) Duke (sr) Away L, 80-59[71] (3%) "


^9 guess we know ncsuapex's source...

or similar thinking?

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 3:02 PM. Reason : ]

1/31/2008 3:01:28 PM

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^


ahaha I came up with my score on my own. I hadn't seen the pomeroy prediction

1/31/2008 3:04:25 PM

d7freestyler
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maybe you could get paid!

1/31/2008 3:06:02 PM

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The only thing I need to know about K's dominance over us and everyone else is that he hasn't got anyone over 6'8" and is walking all over teams. Hickson will be lucky to see a pass entry when he's in the paint more than twice tonight. Paulus, Nelson, Smith, should all be licking their chops with Johnson and Gonzalez handling the ball. It's a very deflating feeling to know how much size we have over them and still know we're going to get worked. At least with UNC, they have Hansblow, Thompson, Ginyard and ten thousand other big guys who are talented. Oh, and they'll out rebound our bigs all night long, this is a team that plays with an aggression for rebounds for 40 minutes.

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 3:16 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2008 3:13:09 PM

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i bet on duke, does that make me smart or a piece of shit traitor?

1/31/2008 3:16:41 PM

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That makes you how many dollars you bet richer, it's up to you how you feel about fattening your wallet.

1/31/2008 3:17:43 PM

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