Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wonder if Paul will drop out" |
He was already scheduled to speak in his home district tomorrow.
MSNBC calls Georgia for Huckabee.2/5/2008 10:41:54 PM |
deerpark101 All American 773 Posts user info edit post |
I think Paul will and run a third party bid
He raised huge amounts of money but has yet to spent very much
and
He scheduled no public appearance tonight 2/5/2008 10:41:56 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There's whispers that Arizona might be a lot closer than most expected and Romney might've nipped it from McCain" |
Just called it for mccain. You can ignore any future whispers from the idiot who said this.
Why would paul quit now? He's known he had a hopeless cause for months.
[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 10:46 PM. Reason : .]2/5/2008 10:43:24 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think Paul will and run a third party bid" |
Doubtful, unless he took the LP line (it's been offered officially). The ballot access is killer.
FWIW, he's already said he won't do it.2/5/2008 10:44:01 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Hillary doing well among seniors because seniors are racist. 2/5/2008 10:44:54 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Just called it for mccain. You can ignore any future whispers from the idiot who said this." |
It was from McCain's staff who reportedly told it to Tucker Carlson, and came from exit polls.
https://www.azcentral.com/my/zage.php?referer=http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0205mccain-arizona0205-ON.html2/5/2008 10:46:12 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wonder if Paul will drop out" | Why? He's on a crusade and he knows that his voice will be heard as long as he has money, and his supporters are all to happy to provide it just so they'll be heard.2/5/2008 10:50:53 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^^ so, ignore tucker carlson. got it 2/5/2008 10:51:59 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Democrats
Alabama - Obama winner Arizona - Clinton leading 51-39 Arkansas - Clinton winner California - polls about to close Connecticut - Obama winner Delaware - Obama winner Georgia - Obama winner Illinois - Obama winner Massachusetts - Clinton winner Missouri - Clinton leading 53-44 New Jersey - Clinton winner New York - Clinton winner Oklahoma - Clinton winner Tennessee - Clinton winner Utah - Obama winner Alaska - caucuses close at 12:30am Colorado - Obama leading 65-34 Idaho - Obama winner Kansas - Obama winner Minnesota - Obama winner New Mexico - polls not closed yet North Dakota - Obama winner
Republicans
Alabama - Huckabee winner Arizona - McCain winner Arkansas - Huckabee winner California - polls about to close Connecticut - McCain winner Delaware - McCain winner Georgia - Huckabee winner Illinois - McCain winner Massachusetts - Romney winner Missouri - Huckabee leading 35-31 New Jersey - McCain winner New York - McCain winner Oklahoma - McCain winner Tennessee - Huckabee leading 34-32 Utah - Romney winner Alaska - caucuses close at 12:30am Colorado - Romney leading 44-27 Minnesota - Romney leading 38-23 Montana - Romney leading 35-27 North Dakota - Romney winner West Virginia - Huckabee winner
[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 11:03 PM. Reason : /] 2/5/2008 10:59:30 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Cali is too close to call 2/5/2008 11:00:48 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
has a real good break down of the polls 2/5/2008 11:02:08 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
I love how edwards was still on ballots. Right now with 84% of the precincts reporting in kansas he was 21 votes. Next up is clinton with around 6900. I wonder if those 21 people even realize how sad and alone they are.
[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 11:07 PM. Reason : no spelling nazis] 2/5/2008 11:05:06 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Clinton's picked up 58 today, Obama 56. Pretty tight still.
McCain has picked up 271, Romney . . . not so much.
Oh shit, Gravel is still in the race. Who knew?] 2/5/2008 11:10:09 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
MSNBC (just done) estimation on delegates. This can of course change due to results in CA for example:
Obama 584, Clinton 526
McCain 400-650 delegates Romney 170-428 delegates Huckabee around 200 delegates
Paul's best finish tonight is Montana, where he's 2nd behind Romney. 2/5/2008 11:28:55 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
Wow with the counties remaining looks like Obama might actually pull out Missouri by a few hundred votes - didn't see that coming....
My math has him winning MO by 5,000+ votes
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:01 AM. Reason : math] 2/5/2008 11:52:39 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
dont know why they havent called CA yet, it is pretty obvious Clinton is going to win and it has been for days, despite what the media was saying.....I guess they just want to keep people viewing... 2/5/2008 11:57:37 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
Missouri is basically for bragging rights now...they are going to split the delegates it appears.
Obama came on strong at the end though. 2/6/2008 12:01:22 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
i thought hispanics would vote for obama 2/6/2008 12:01:47 AM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah Clinton is winning in just about every county in CA so far...unless the early precincts are not a good sample then it shouldn't be close.
But even with Clinton winning California, in my opinion this is definitely Obama's night 2/6/2008 12:11:18 AM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Obama didnt do anything that he wasnt suppose to do, yeah, Clinton won the states she was suppose to and he did the ones he was suppose to, no REAL suprises, the two states Obama supposedly took from Clinton they will split the delegates. It will be interesting what VA does....and they keep talking about how the donors for Obama havent maxed out....duh, they arent going to be able to max out since most are college kids who cant afford too.
Anyways, off to bed.
It would of been Obama's night if he won CA, NJ or MAS and he didnt. 2/6/2008 12:20:49 AM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
^
I think MO, CT, DE, and having so many crushing victories in the caucuses and the states he was expected to win are what give Obama the night.
No one predicted (that I saw) Alabama by 15%, Colorado by 30%... MN was supposed to be close but he won by 30%. He's up 80% to 16% in Idaho at the moment 2/6/2008 12:27:08 AM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
close night for the dems...going to go a long time...nc might actually get to vote on this one...obama has a lot of money left and has raised more than clinton, could be very close and he will win missouri. Obama also has good states coming up for him in louisiana and va. and md. Ohio could be interesting too as it is coming up as well.
unfortunately mccain is going to win since romney and huckabee are canceling each other out, seems to me we are watching whether or not hillary or obama will be pres. 2/6/2008 12:31:51 AM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
Pundits now saying Romney may drop out tomorrow....going to have "serious discussions" 2/6/2008 12:34:25 AM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
^ he might as well stop wasting his money...i want him to win, but with him and huckabee in this they have no chance, and huckabee isn't going anywhere after tonight. i still think if huckabee never ran romney would have won the republican nomination, but he is there and since he is romney has no chance. huckabee can only hope for a vp nod. even though it looks like the florida governor might get it as he is everywhere mccain is. 2/6/2008 12:39:59 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Wolf Blitzer just said Alaska is allocating delegates by Congressional district. Huh? 2/6/2008 12:48:18 AM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
McCain and Huckabee are in cahoots, if Huckabee wasnt in then Romney would win. Huck is hoping for a job in the McCain admin. 2/6/2008 12:50:58 AM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. I thought the republican nominees couldn't get any more wacko since that last election. This election is proving me wrong.
I really do hope democrats win and socialize this country. Maybe then coservatives will get their heads out of our rear ends and see where this party has gone wrong. 2/6/2008 12:52:07 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i thought hispanics would vote for obama" |
lol
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:53 AM. Reason : ^i think mccain would do a good job]
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:54 AM. Reason : but def. picking a dem over mccain/preacher]2/6/2008 12:52:41 AM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ all democratic states are doing that...basically it ends up if one candidate wins 60 to 40 they will get 60 percent of the delegates even though it is not exact. They take the percentages in each district and allocate delegates accordingly. But it ends up about the same as the state average. For example obama looks like he will win missouri but he will basically split the delegates with hillary since the vote is 49 to 48.
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:53 AM. Reason : s] 2/6/2008 12:53:22 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^
Quote : | "Wolf Blitzer just said Alaska is allocating delegates by Congressional district. Huh?" |
2/6/2008 12:58:19 AM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
^ haha ... that took me a second 2/6/2008 1:01:01 AM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
^ yes alaska is, but so is every democratic state. some republican states are too but some are winner take all. no democratic state is winner take all, they are all basically based on the overall percentage of votes.
oh i get what your saying now...
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:03 AM. Reason : cause no one lives in alaska...i see] 2/6/2008 1:01:26 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
You are missing the point, methinks
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:04 AM. Reason : Alaska only has one congressional district] 2/6/2008 1:04:10 AM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
haha...yeah that one went right over my head 2/6/2008 1:07:16 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Hilary is running the Giuliani strategy, only she is actually being effective with it. Obama is racking up the South, Midwest, and West. Obama v. McCain could potentially bring more states into play in the general election.
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:13 AM. Reason : .] 2/6/2008 1:10:19 AM |
NCBRETTSU Veteran 245 Posts user info edit post |
Obama is racking up in the West?? 2/6/2008 1:18:09 AM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
why is 10% of california voting for edwards...and even other states voting for edwards.
is it absentee/early voting or do people want to waste their vote? 2/6/2008 1:18:52 AM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
Yeh an obama vs mccain race would flip the map all the way around. 2/6/2008 1:19:06 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
In conclusion, hispanics hate obama. 2/6/2008 1:25:39 AM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I was just thinking that...
Obama/McCain a ton of states would be in play....I think you would be looking at maybe 25 safe states tops.
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:26 AM. Reason : .] 2/6/2008 1:26:08 AM |
NCBRETTSU Veteran 245 Posts user info edit post |
Latin people dont really like black people anyways do they? 2/6/2008 1:28:09 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
In an obama/mccain race, I don't see how it would be different, other than with a obama taking most of swing states. no red of blue state would flip.
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:30 AM. Reason : ^nope!] 2/6/2008 1:28:57 AM |
Mangy Wolf All American 2006 Posts user info edit post |
It looks like the TV newsmedia won. The Republicans were snookered by nine-month-out polling data. Now we can watch the debacle unfold. 2/6/2008 1:30:09 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^huh?? 2/6/2008 2:29:58 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
he's whining about McCain
another conservative who doesn't even recognize what's good for him 2/6/2008 2:32:39 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
seriously...mccain is gonna be a good version of george w bush
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 2:37 AM. Reason : cause in some respects i can appreciate whats hes managed to do since hes become pres] 2/6/2008 2:36:15 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
It makes me so happy that Mangy Wolf is upset. Not as happy as McCain's victories today, but happy nonetheless. 2/6/2008 3:07:54 AM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
California is currently reporting in about 70%, looks like Clinton is up 53% to 40% right now... and apparently 5% of voters (about 150,000 right now) in the state are stubborn/dumb/apathetic enough to do a write-in for Edwards.
[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 4:34 AM. Reason : .] 2/6/2008 4:29:29 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obama is racking up in the West??" |
Colorado Idaho North Dakota Utah
Not many delegates, but he is winning there. Clinton obviously got California (West Coast /= West), Nevada, and Arizona which have very different demographics. Nevada and and Arizona are full of transplant retirees, kind of like the Florida of the West. New Mexico appears to be a tossup.2/6/2008 6:49:57 AM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
McCains age will be a problem for him, mark my words 2/6/2008 7:22:45 AM |