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9/8/2008 11:07:57 PM

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ECU w/ the big win over Tulane by the hair on their asses. 2nd game we've had to come from behind. After watchin Clemson dismantle state, i think it would take a complete and utter offensive/defensive meltdown for ecu to lose. It'll take a little of the luster off the rivalry

9/13/2008 8:30:50 PM

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lol

9/13/2008 8:37:30 PM

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"It'll take a little of the luster off the rivalry"

lolwut??

[Edited on September 13, 2008 at 8:51 PM. Reason : how about no one uses the word rivalry anymore, b/c no one knows what it means.]

9/13/2008 8:48:28 PM

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LUSTER

9/13/2008 8:50:07 PM

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ESPN article: ECU is one of the most dangerous non-BCS teams

#5 with 12 BCS wins since 1998 but that was before the West Virginia game. If we get by State and UVA we'll have 15 & more BCS wins than any of the other mid majors.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fearless/080905

9/16/2008 3:07:54 PM

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wat...rivalry?

in your own mind sir.

9/16/2008 3:30:02 PM

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Army vs. Navy is a rivalry.
Michigan vs. Ohio State is a rivalry.
South Carolina vs. Clemson is a rivalry.
Georgia vs. GT is a rivalry.


NCSU vs. ECU is NOT a rivalry. To me, it is just another game on the schedule, no more important or less important than last week or next week.

9/16/2008 4:43:13 PM

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its an in-state rivalry. Not really sure how anyone can dispute that. It's not a nationally recognized rivalry on the scale of the others you just mentioned, but it's still a rivalry.

But who the fuck really cares anyway? Rivalry or not, its still a game people in NC get excited about. Either because they want to talk shit after they pound the other team, or after they play spoiler. It goes both ways

9/16/2008 4:52:39 PM

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Nobody from NCSU wants to talk shit to an ECU fan......

9/16/2008 4:54:08 PM

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"NCSU vs. ECU is NOT a rivalry. To me, it is just another game on the schedule, no more important or less important than last week or next week."


To you

9/16/2008 5:08:32 PM

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"Georgia vs. GT is a rivalry."


It's weird to me that you picked this game as a rivalry when the Georgia-Florida game is a much bigger rivalry than UGA-GT to Georgia fans.

9/16/2008 5:19:36 PM

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^i work with 2 UGA fans and i asked them if GT is their rival. Almost instantly both replied without looking up "Nope"

9/16/2008 5:22:17 PM

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^^^ rivalrys are two sided.

State fans don't get excited about ECU. We dread it. I'm always scared that some ECU chick's crabs are going to jump on me.

[Edited on September 16, 2008 at 5:23 PM. Reason : adsf]

9/16/2008 5:23:01 PM

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I'd say State's rivals are UNC and Wake...FSU was kind of a rival when Amato was here, but it doesn't feel like it as much anymore...maybe we'll develop a rivalry with BC...you could say ECU is a rival of State, but not as big since its non conference

9/16/2008 5:23:23 PM

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"It's weird to me that you picked this game as a rivalry when the Georgia-Florida game is a much bigger rivalry than UGA-GT to Georgia fans."


exactly

gerogia fans talk a lot of shit but they really prefer destroying florida

i would imagine because tech is an acc team and georgia is a sec team

i am sick of seeing all the georgia shit down here

9/16/2008 5:24:49 PM

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Do all the ECU fans/alumni/students look at the NCSU game as more important because there is no other C-USA team in NC?

I certainly view UNC or WF as more of a rivalry than ECU.

9/16/2008 6:42:06 PM

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the only thing that makes NCSU/ECU a rivalry is that 30 of your HS friends go to ECU or if you are at ECU then 15 of your friends from HS go to NCSU

9/16/2008 7:00:03 PM

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lol dweedle

9/16/2008 7:18:46 PM

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the only thing that makes ecu a "rivalry" is that they show up en masse and act ridiculous.

imo, we currently have no rivalries. there is no game on our schedule that both sides get up for. just how it is.

9/16/2008 7:34:56 PM

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you guys will be on the messageboards watching from home...... check out craigslist and see how many wolfpack/pirate fans are falling over themselves for tickets to see this so called rivalry game

I've been to your games before and you guys show up for no other schools like ecu, unc, and florida state Amato-era

9/16/2008 10:22:54 PM

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i wish we showed up for ecu, but ecu shows up for ecu.

it's pretty embarrassing actually.

9/16/2008 10:26:10 PM

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people typically do want to go to nc state home games when the opponent is ranked/undefeated

9/16/2008 10:45:03 PM

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just secured my other 4 tickets on craigslist... there's a guy on there willing to trade his NCSU/UNC tickets for NCSU/ECU ones

9/16/2008 11:02:14 PM

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"gerogia fans talk a lot of shit but they really prefer destroying florida "


the thing is that Florida doesn't take that rivalry nearly as seriously as UGA does it seems. I'd say UGA/UT or UGA/Auburn are the 2 biggest.

^ that game is in Kenan this year, can't say I blame him.

[Edited on September 16, 2008 at 11:07 PM. Reason : .]

9/16/2008 11:06:46 PM

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"Nobody from NCSU wants to talk shit to an ECU fan......"


haha, riiiiiiiiight


you guys do realize that this stupid rivalry discussion happens EVERY FUCKING YEAR. Who the fuck cares what it classifies as? ECU is rolling into town undefeated, ranked top 20, and State wants nothing more than to fuck that up. We all know people at both schools, I'm sure it'll be a good time, and that's why it's fun. This rivalry shit is retarded

9/17/2008 12:08:42 AM

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I tell everyone in greenville that I don't understand this 'rivalry' they keep discussing, but they're pretty confident it's there from when ncsu refused to play ecu for a number of years because of their rowdy fans or some nonsense.

9/17/2008 12:32:30 AM

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State vs. ECU. is DEFINITELY a rivalry! Dont be bitter b/c we are having a shitty ass season. B/c if both of our schools were nationally ranked now, all of you would be singing a different tune!


They are 90 miles down the road from us, beat us in basketball last season, are competitive with us in baseball..and for once in a LONG while nationally ranked...so give 'em some credit.

I want my Pack to play well and it is DEFINITELY a rivalry...if it were South florida, NCCU, or SC....then u could say it wasnt a rivalry.

9/17/2008 12:50:06 AM

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^^no, it's because we have similar fan-bases (whether state fans choose to admit that or not), and because of proximity and football tradition. Traditionally, State and ECU probably care the most about football of the schools in NC. I don't really see why it matters. I also don't see why state fans have such a hard time admitting that they enjoy the game or that they even CARE about the game. i think that's the lamest part. I mean, ECU is fucking top 20 and you're telling me you don't care? Because it's not a rivalry or whatever? That's just stupid

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 12:54 AM. Reason : .]

9/17/2008 12:53:05 AM

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do you know what it's like to watch state football? i go to every game just hoping we don't get embarrassed.

if we win this game, it's dodging a bullet. it's not beating up your little brother to show him who's boss, it's not ruining ecu's perfect season, it's dodging a loss to a cusa team that represents a school that was no one's first choice. it's always dodging a bullet. ecu's usually good enough for the game to be scary, and losing to a non bcs team is always embarrassing.

that's it, for me anyway. don't take it personally, i don't consider carolina a "rivalry" either, b/c it's not. it's totally one sided on our part, at least anymore.

a rivalry is a game where if you totally tank a season, you can say 'w/e, at least we beat --'. never, ever, will you hear a state fan say 'w/e, at least we beat ecu'. you'll hear them say that about carolina, but you will never hear carolina say it about state. i guess you could call it an empathy game, since we both know what it's like to be in a onesided game like that, but by definition, i would not call it a "rivalry game".

i hesitate to use that word about anything really, b/c it's so grossly overused for the sake of tv ratings, but that's a tangent.

9/17/2008 1:22:57 AM

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^Ding. I mean if we were to pull it out somehow it is not like a win over Carolina where I am going to go out and start calling people and stuff. If we win, it will just be another win. The ONLY reason this one is big is because ECU has some hype now and they are ranked. Who doesn't want to beat a ranked team?

9/17/2008 1:40:47 AM

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but you know that if state beats ecu this year, and then manages to lose every other game during the season, ya'll will be like "well, at least we beat ecu"

9/17/2008 1:40:51 AM

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no, we will probably be calling to fire someone

9/17/2008 1:46:01 AM

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lol true

9/17/2008 2:24:04 AM

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so in a real rivalry, let's say Michigan and tOSU, if Michigan goes 1-11 with a win over tOSU then they'll be okay with that?

I'd say usually, as long as we win against UNC, Duke (if we're lucky enough to play them), and ECU then it's a good year, a loss against any of them is not something I like, and would pretty much ruin the season. 2 years ago was terrible because we lost to both ECU and UNC, basically making State the worst team in the state and being a joke. If we had won one then yes, I'd take UNC first, but winning both of those games and a 5-7 season wouldn't be all that bad (see last year)

9/17/2008 3:40:12 AM

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you guys are retarded. ECU is #15 in the nation and you're trying to tell me you'd rather not play the game? Stop talking about all the rivalry shit for a second. If this was BYU or Fresno coming in you guys wouldn't be hyped up?

I mean, I get that you guys suck so you're trying to justify this whole "we don't want to lose to ecu so we'll act like we're above them and that we don't feel that we should have to play them, nor are they our rivals" attitude, but all it does is make everyone look like a bunch of delusional whiners.

9/17/2008 8:06:56 AM

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"you guys are retarded. ECU is #15 in the nation and you're trying to tell me you'd rather not play the game? Stop talking about all the rivalry shit for a second. If this was BYU or Fresno coming in you guys wouldn't be hyped up?"

no you fucking idiot, i wouldn't be hyped up. we're worried about just scoring touchdowns, you think we're hyped about how high you're ranked?

9/17/2008 10:02:05 AM

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After college i moved to Raleigh and as a result i've met alot of wolfpack alums and some current students. It's pretty weak to hear a few on this board proclaim things like " WE don't look forward to this game, it's just another one" or "WE don't consider ECU our rivals". They use "WE" as if they are speaking on behalf of the fanbase and it's laughable. Don't get me wrong, everyone's entitled to their own opinion but It's dumb because others are slapping them on the back of the heads and telling them that it IS a rilvalry & to get over themselves.

There is a very small handful of my wolfpack friends (mostly girls) that don't give a hoot about this game on Saturday. Everyone else is foaming at the mouth. Their friends and family are coming into town for the game too. The ones that don't have tickets are scrambling to find tickets. I'm guessing CF will be packed. One could make the arguement that it will be to make a good showing for ESPN but i haven't talked to anyone that even mentioned it.

I think what bothers the dellusional fans is the school of thinking that East Carolina and NC State are not on a level plane as far as the institution goes thus making a "rivalry" seem beneath them. we all know ECU is much smaller, receives far less funding, competes in smaller conference etc. etc. NCState isn't this storied football program or a national power to be reckoned with. Neither is ECU. Even with Rivers have you finished higher than .500 in the ACC? Don't think so if i remember correctly.

Get over it already. You are the same guys that boast they made $20K more than they actually did last year or that they got busy with Jennifer from the bar when nothing actually happened. Only foolin yourselves

9/17/2008 10:40:12 AM

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"You are the same guys that boast they made $20K more than they actually did last year or that they got busy with Jennifer from the bar when nothing actually happened. Only foolin yourselves"

i've never said anything of the sort. and i'm not fooling myself, to me it's dodging a bullet if we win and embarrassing if we lose.

i mean, whatever. you win. it's so important. i can't wait to ruin your season and i circle this game as super important every year. satisfied?

9/17/2008 10:44:33 AM

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never questioned that. just admit it's a rivalry

9/17/2008 10:52:31 AM

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it's not, and to show you i'm being objective, i will admit that us/unc is not a rivalry either.

maybe some people "foam at the mouth" to play ecu, but i don't know any of those people.

9/17/2008 10:56:42 AM

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"i go to every game just hoping we don't get embarrassed."


lol

my sentiments exactly

9/17/2008 11:00:00 AM

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"i've never said anything of the sort. and i'm not fooling myself, to me it's dodging a bullet if we win and embarrassing if we lose."


haha, what a fucking retard this guy is.

because losing to a top 20 team would really be embarrassing. You do realize that just about everyone in the nation recognizes that ECU is better than you, right? You do know that you're a touchdown underdog at home, right? so how is that embarrassing? this is what's wrong with state fans. their logic is totally fucked up.

9/17/2008 11:21:08 AM

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"You do know that you're a touchdown underdog at home, right? so how is that embarrassing?"

being a touchdown dog to a nonbcs conference school at home isn't embarrassing?

i think it is.

9/17/2008 11:23:33 AM

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who gives a fuck about the BCS conference shit? the ACC is a BCS conference and they're HORRIBLE. The fact is, ECU has a better football team than State this year, thus, it would be a great win for State, and a nationally recognized one at that, given ECU's ranking and first two wins. If you can't see that, then you obviously don't know shit about college football.

in a year where ECU is just average, I could maybe see your point

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9/17/2008 11:33:36 AM

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it would not be nationally recognized in a positive light for us, just a negative light for ecu

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9/17/2008 11:40:45 AM

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haha, man, you guys have a way of justifying anything and everything. You seriously can't let yourselves say that it would be a positive win. YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING WINLESS. amazing.

[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 11:42 AM. Reason : .]

9/17/2008 11:41:42 AM

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"The fact is, ECU has a better football team than State this year"

YEAH, THAT'S EMBARRASSING.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SPELL THIS OUT FOR YOU?

9/17/2008 11:42:59 AM

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^you do realize that nobody cares about State or thinks they're any good to begin with, right? It's not like OSU getting blown out by USC. You guys are an average at best football school. Get the fuck over yourself.

9/17/2008 11:44:24 AM

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I kinda wish ECU fans would shut the fuck up

considering we completely owned them the last time we played

a year ago they were running their mouthes about how they were gonna blow us out (we sucked ass last year too, in case you forgot)...and what happened...we wore you out

9/17/2008 11:44:25 AM

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