DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Actually if you pay close attention they always said her mission was to keep John away from "her" but they never really specified the her in question. I've read some theories that suggest that their mission was to keep John from being influenced too much by Sarah." |
Actually, I'm pretty sure they've made it very clear her mission was to keep John away from metal. Namely because they have a tendency to flake out and kill people - like the way Reese recalled.
Which makes sense, given John's emotional attachment to metal (i.e., T2)3/9/2009 12:20:09 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
I'm so glad they killed the gf. I was getting tired of her. I was actually cheering in my living room when she got shot. They better not kill Cameron though. 3/9/2009 9:41:11 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Great episode.
Glad to see that John is turning into more of a badass. 3/20/2009 11:31:30 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
This show is bad ass. It's so bleak.
Too bad it will get cancelled before its natural conclusion. 3/21/2009 3:04:31 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
bout time they got back on track with a good episode 3/21/2009 9:03:42 AM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
I just want to know how they are going to integrate it with the new movies. 3/21/2009 12:56:13 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
yeah this past episode was good. sucks they had to kill the Jimmy Carter for no good reason. 3/21/2009 1:29:18 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Glad to see that John is turning into more of a badass." |
he cried to his mommy in the last episode. Are we discussing the same show?3/21/2009 2:42:28 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah. Weird how they would portray the conflicting levels of maturity of a teenager. WTF man. 3/21/2009 3:37:54 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yeah, if you couldn't see how much John advanced in this episode then you must have been watching a different show. He went from a kid that mostly just did what his mom told him, to someone that you could actually see as the leader of the revolution. It was so bad ass to see him reveal that he had been on to Riley for a while. And breaking into that chicks hotel room and basically being like "I'm John Connor, bitch" was awesome.
And if being told directly that in a couple of years you will hold the entire fate of civilization on your shoulders and also having your girlfriend/one of the 3 people on the planet that you could be yourself around get killed doesn't warrant a good cry, I don't know what does. 3/21/2009 4:52:55 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder if the t-1000 on the ship is the same one that got sent back in T2
did the same finger wave and errything 3/21/2009 5:55:41 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And breaking into that chicks hotel room and basically being like "I'm John Connor, bitch" was awesome." |
I agree completely.
What did he say? "If you lie to me I'm going to shoot you in the head." Badass.
He's come a long way since the mopey kid that saw the girl jump off of the school roof. I love the writing on this show.3/21/2009 9:24:50 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Could also be the scottish ceo chick.
The whole communication with John Connor could imply that their are factions among the terminators. If so and if the scottish chick is the same one on the submarine, she could be a potential ally of the crew.
Why is she trying to teach the john henry morals, anyway?
I was surprised the liquid metal could swim. I thought it had to sink to the bottom.
[Edited on March 22, 2009 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .] 3/22/2009 2:45:38 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The whole communication with John Connor could imply that their are factions among the terminators. If so and if the scottish chick is the same one on the submarine, she could be a potential ally of the crew." |
I'm not so sure someone whose first move was to slice up a crew member would be called an "ally." Strikes me like the faction John was communicating with was planning a double-cross.
But the idea of factions isn't new - the terminators in "Allison from Palmdale" (i.e., when we learn Cameron's backstory) pretty much elude to the fact that not every terminator wants to wipe out humanity.
Quote : | "Why is she trying to teach the john henry morals, anyway?" |
I think this ties back to the factions angle. Note that the T-1001 sees the Connors in the therapist's office (specifically John) and doesn't even seem to notice. Which would seem to imply that she is acting at least somewhat independently of the "original" Skynet.
Perhaps this is the result of the "alternate futures" they keep eluding to? (i.e., Derek talks about how the futures keep changing - like the one where Andy Goode is no longer there, or how he can't remember the guy who tortured him, etc.)
Quote : | "I was surprised the liquid metal could swim. I thought it had to sink to the bottom." |
I'm fairly sure it could create a way to mechanically float. All it would have to do is displace more water than its own weight.3/22/2009 10:30:27 PM |
Your Savior Veteran 116 Posts user info edit post |
it could have eated some submarine air before it went pop
[Edited on March 22, 2009 at 10:38 PM. Reason : ^and i thought she only saw their backs at the therapist's office] 3/22/2009 10:37:22 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why is she trying to teach the john henry morals, anyway?" |
With the introduction of different factions of machines, I'm wondering if she independently came up with the idea that machines can't defeat humans, so she's trying to create a moral skynet so that they can coexist.
But the season finale makes me wonder:
Quote : | "The Connors come face-to-face with Weaver in a confrontation that shakes John to the core and changes his reality. Nothing will be the same." |
3/25/2009 3:45:03 PM |
eltownse All American 1851 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think this ties back to the factions angle. Note that the T-1001 sees the Connors in the therapist's office (specifically John) and doesn't even seem to notice. Which would seem to imply that she is acting at least somewhat independently of the "original" Skynet." |
I didn't think she actually saw John Conner.
John was obstructed by the little girl right as she went past the door.3/26/2009 1:35:05 PM |
AlliePaige All American 4510 Posts user info edit post |
Glad the show is picking back up and it's not all about Sarah tripping out anymore.
How many more episodes are left this season? 3/26/2009 2:51:16 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Nooooo! Charley Dixon was such a good guy. 3/27/2009 9:25:03 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Off to a slow start, but another quality episode.
At the end when Derek said that he could hold up through torture and Cameron said something like "It's happened before" was that a reference to the bassment scene last season? 3/27/2009 9:55:48 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i was building a Bionicle when the Bionicle scene came on and got a little weirded out 3/27/2009 10:46:57 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "At the end when Derek said that he could hold up through torture and Cameron said something like "It's happened before" was that a reference to the bassment scene last season?" |
I think this would be implied, given his extremely adverse reaction upon first seeing Cameron, yes.3/28/2009 12:30:58 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I can't believe I spelled it bassment. 3/28/2009 10:55:21 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Is this the last season for Sarah Connor Chronicles? 3/28/2009 6:32:12 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Might be. The ratings have really taken a hit since it was moved to Friday. 3/28/2009 7:05:02 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
big surprise there. 3/29/2009 10:16:34 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
and i was just starting to enjoy the series. 3/29/2009 10:17:00 AM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Well they said there are only 2 episodes left.. as oppossed to saying only 2 episodes left this season. 3/29/2009 10:56:17 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
at least we still have american idol!!! 3/29/2009 11:37:18 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Brian Austin Green already got a part on another series. rats fleeing a sinking ship
The show is just too depressing to draw a big audience.
[Edited on March 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM. Reason : .] 3/29/2009 1:30:22 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Another great show falls victim to the idiots at Fox. 3/29/2009 6:26:06 PM |
HEAVYCRAIG Veteran 200 Posts user info edit post |
Bad News if you believe this blog: http://www.fmqinc.com/terminator-cancelled/ 3/29/2009 7:00:14 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
maybe they can sell it to SyFy 3/29/2009 7:39:45 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
I'm guessing everyone just moves on. Sci fi writers who sell shows to fox probably assume shit will only last a year or two, anyway. 3/29/2009 11:00:47 PM |
whotboy All American 740 Posts user info edit post |
hopefully they at least semi wrapped up some story arcs, the riley thing is closed now we got scot-bot and sub-box-bot (if they are diff things) 3/29/2009 11:55:52 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
damn, they didn't beat around the bush killing him, did they? 4/3/2009 9:03:19 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Goddamn, that was freaking lame. Killing a major character in such inconsequential fashion?
Fuck me. Even Tasha Yar got a better treatment than that. 4/3/2009 10:51:48 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
With the holodeck self eulogy?
That was lame as fuck. 4/3/2009 11:03:34 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, I was hoping they'd give it a 3rd season to go along with the release of the new Terminator movie. Ah well, it's been a great show, hopefully the season finale will provide some closure. 4/3/2009 11:04:38 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Shit. Off to a good start.
Quote : | "Brian Austin Green already got a part on another series. rats fleeing a sinking ship" |
huh
[Edited on April 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM. Reason : .]4/3/2009 11:13:13 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That was lame as fuck." |
Hence my point.4/3/2009 11:24:45 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Kay Yow had a self eulogy....
It's not like they had time to continue the Reese drama. Shit has to end quickly. Given the circumstances, there's no reason for the whining.
(And let's be honest, the reese stuff was really ancillary. It's tough to cut him like that, but there is definitely a better ROI in spending their final minutes on better storylines.)
I really like the show's stylistic sensibilities.
[Edited on April 4, 2009 at 12:11 AM. Reason : .] 4/3/2009 11:53:15 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
i was just surprised how it went down. when they first showed him with a bullet in his head i didn't believe it was him until they showed it again. they could have at least had him dying trying to save john or something 4/4/2009 12:41:55 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I can appreciate the little touch of realism in a show about future robots hunting teenagers.
I would have felt insulted if he'd died in John arms while saying "John....gaaah.....earn this...." 4/4/2009 12:49:38 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
I thought they way they down played it was awesome. Heres this character they've spent all this time buidling up and then blam. Not everyone gets an over the top heroic death scene. While he was more of an important person to us, to the terminator he was just the same as the maid/babysiter chick.
The episode was awesome and the scene with Ellison and Weaver in the elevator was great. If its really being cancelled I dont know what to say. You'd think that now that BSG is done it would have a better chance. 4/4/2009 4:38:33 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
I just figured that he got shot in the shoulder or something when that Terminator first walked out, I was pretty surprised when it showed the bullet hole in his head. 4/6/2009 11:21:32 AM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
While I agree that not every character needs an over the top heroic scene to go out that was just so forced and unexpected. He deserved at least a little bit better. 4/6/2009 11:25:26 AM |
Zel Sa Da Tay 2094 Posts user info edit post |
ok WTF is going on in this show!?!? 4/10/2009 9:02:17 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
You are a little behind buddy. 4/10/2009 9:05:29 PM |
Zel Sa Da Tay 2094 Posts user info edit post |
haha i just watched tonights episode, and was like wtf time travel blowing my mind. 4/10/2009 9:49:24 PM |