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3/23/2009 7:17:45 PM

Reposted since no one reads the last post on a page!

khcadwal, I love you.

The decline of things like common courtesy in your actions, politeness, and minding your own business are a sign of the general moral decay of a society. As a country we have lost a lot that used to be good about us.

Being too fucking lazy to return the cart to the store or to a corral is a sign that you are a lazy shithead with no concern for your fellow man. You would rather see someone's vehicle get gouged to shit than walk 20 yards. You are a bad, careless, lazy person. This may be because you lack backbone or maybe your parents didn't teach you well, but either way I don't care to associate with you. I'm as much, or more, of a crazy Libertarian as anyone who would argue that being selfish is good for the country, but being self-centered is not, and yes, there is a difference.

This is exactly the same as people who piss on the toilet seat in a public restroom, or don't flush the urinal. Hell, the appearance of public restrooms is a pretty good indicator of what kind of neighborhood you are in. Generally speaking, the cleaner the restroom the better the people in the area (this does not necessarily correlate to income either).

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 7:19 PM. Reason : selfish =/= self centered]

3/23/2009 7:18:29 PM

What the fuck kind of neighborhood has public restrooms?

3/23/2009 7:21:46 PM

Jesus Christ it's just shopping carts.

I guarantee if Carmen Electra didn't return her cart that you'd still fuck her.

3/23/2009 7:51:26 PM

Yes, but I'd also think she's a discourteous shithead.

3/23/2009 7:57:38 PM

^^^ Paris

3/23/2009 8:09:23 PM

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"^ that's only if you work more than 40 hours in a week, which i rarely ever did. i usually worked 10-20 hours during high school and then somewhere around 30 during the summer. it just sucks when you're at the end of an 8 or 9 hour day and you have to spend more time there than you need to because you had to go all over the parking lot getting individual carts since people couldn't take the time to put them in one of the corrals. i know you could give the whole "well that's your job to do it and sometimes people have to stay later" argument, but i'm just saying it's annoying when you have to stay later than you should have to because of something like that, and i don't think anyone would disagree with me. i'm sure anyone else who has had to do that understands, and it's really not unreasonable to put yourself in that situation and think of how you'd feel if you knew you had to spend extra time at work for something that's preventable. to me it just boils down to common courtesy."

So you're not getting payed overtime, but you're still getting paid for the extra time that you spend out on the parking lot collecting the carts.

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"thats not good enough and you are still being a lazy bitch"

I'm sorry, you completely missed the entire thread. Here's a quick summary: That's what I always do and this thread has been an attempt to convince people like me not to leave their carts up on the median and to return them instead. However, I disagree and so yesterday I made it a point to leave my cart up on the median instead of putting it in the corral which was in the space immediately next to my car.

3/23/2009 9:21:27 PM

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"yesterday I made it a point to leave my cart up on the median instead of putting it in the corral which was in the space immediately next to my car."

you do realize that doing this has immediately and irrevocably classified you as a dick, yes?

3/23/2009 9:36:01 PM

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"This is exactly the same as people who piss on the toilet seat in a public restroom, or don't flush the urinal."

i'm a pretty polite and courteous person, but a lot of the time i don't flush the urinal. hell, the piss just trickles down anyway. it's a waste of water to flush it in my opinion. i'll flush a regular toilet if i piss in it though.

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"So you're not getting payed overtime, but you're still getting paid for the extra time that you spend out on the parking lot collecting the carts."

yeah, but at the end of the day at 10 or 11pm i just wanted to go home. i didn't want to spend extra time getting more carts than i had to because people were lazy and left them scattered all over the parking lot. my time being off the clock was worth a lot more to me than the money i'd make from spending an extra 30 minutes or whatever at work and making an additional $3.25. fuck that shit. it's pretty negligible on your paycheck anyway. most people don't react favorably when they realize at the end of the day that they have to stay later, especially when it's because of other peoples' laziness.

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"yesterday I made it a point to leave my cart up on the median instead of putting it in the corral which was in the space immediately next to my car."

i'm sure someone ran out and shook their fist at you because they're aware of this thread and your outspoken refusal to put your cart away. you keep on raging against that machine, buddy!

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 9:49 PM. Reason : .]

3/23/2009 9:43:16 PM

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"my time being off the clock was worth a lot more to me than the money i'd make from spending an extra 30 minutes or whatever at work and making an additional $3.25."

Well, consider that to be a good motivation to graduate high school and go to college so you're not stuck in a ditch job like that. Looks like it worked, too. You only have me and others like me to thank.

3/24/2009 7:56:13 AM

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"i like to park in the "parking for expecting mothers" space. because one day ihope to have a wife that is expecting I expect some fucking groceries"

3/24/2009 8:06:46 AM

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"Well, consider that to be a good motivation to graduate high school and go to college so you're not stuck in a ditch job like that. Looks like it worked, too. You only have me and others like me to thank."

i had aspirations of having a good career long before i started working at lowes foods when i was 17. i will not consider you and other people being lazy and unsympathetic with some warped sense of entitlement where you don't have to put your cart back because you bought a gallon of milk from my store to be motivation for me to go to college. and it's not fair to call that a "ditch" job. most of the kids who work as baggers and cashiers are often high school and college students who need money. there aren't really any middle aged men who are stuck as baggers because they weren't motivated to go to college. even if you go to college and graduate and end up in a managerial position, which a lot of NC state grads from COM do, you're gonna have to stay late and won't even get overtime. so, even though i'm in college and will be getting my degree, i still might be in a position where i end up working late and won't even make another $6.50 for an hour of work that already didn't mean as much to me as going home when my work was done. thanks for the fuckin motivation, pal!

i was a co-op last year and made really good money and still got kind of annoyed when i found out i had to stay late some days. it's a natural reaction that i'm sure anyone in this thread can relate to. now imagine being a high school student and you want to go home, go hang out with your friends, or you have a test the next day that you haven't been able to study for yet because you had to work from 4-10 after school. can you understand why it might've been an inconvenience for me to run around getting carts at 10:30pm when i knew i'd already be up til around 2 or 3am studying for a test? i really don't understand why it's so god damn difficult for you to grasp the concept or why you keep fighting me and anyone else who disagrees with you on the issue. i know you're never gonna stop behaving the way you do, but it'd be nice if you at least said, "yes, i understand that it's lazy, inconsiderate, and completely unjustified for me to behave this way, but i am going to continue doing it because i'm a big fucking douche who is too proud to give up acting like a shit head."

3/24/2009 4:27:28 PM

^ My recommendation to you is to get out of the customer service industry... fast. No one is forcing you to work this job, so if you do not like it, simply quit. There are many people that would be happy to return carts late at night to make some money in this economy. This is quite possibly the most trivial discussion ever.

3/24/2009 4:35:21 PM

^ i got out of it years ago. i'm just saying i can remember being younger and working at a grocery store and all the frustrations that can come along with it because of customers not giving a fuck about you. it was my job to be polite and respectful to customers, and that's how i treated them. now that i'm on the other side i try not to behave in ways that i know will piss off the current employees. for example, i was at food lion the other night buying beer. i grabbed a case, and the handle ripped. i could've left cans scattered all over the floor or left what was left of the case sitting there, but i picked everything up and took it to customer service because i knew if i would've been working that night it would've pissed me off to have had to pick that shit up because someone else just left it there since they didn't give a shit.

3/24/2009 4:46:41 PM

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"it would've pissed me off to have had to pick that shit up because someone else just left it there since they didn't give a shit. "

This is a fundamental skill in the customer service industry. Maybe you should have chosen a different industry if doing things like that bothered you so much.

3/24/2009 5:37:46 PM

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"yes, i understand that it's lazy, inconsiderate, and completely unjustified for me to behave this way, but i am going to continue doing it because i'm a big fucking douche who is too proud to give up acting like a shit head."

Absolutely NOT. Like I originally said, I believe that I am paying for people to go and pick up my carts. It is all included in the price of the food, just like electricity, refrigeration, cashiers, and everything else that goes into supporting a grocery store.

p.s. don't cry... I could hear your voice cracking with tears as I read your post... It will be ok.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 7:54 PM. Reason : s]

3/24/2009 7:53:35 PM

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"This is a fundamental skill in the customer service industry. Maybe you should have chosen a different industry if doing things like that bothered you so much."

i was 17, it was my 1st job, and the store was 5 minutes from my house. its not like i had a resume to post on monster jobs or something

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"I believe that I am paying for people to go and pick up my carts"

yeah, because harris teeter considers the fact that johnny the bagger has to go out of his way to get your cart that you left lying around when they mark up the price on items. come on man. i'll give you employee salaries, but saying part of the cost of your rice krispies is justifying you being too lazy to walk a couple yards with an empty cart is a stretch. but if you're right i'd like to know exactly what percentage of the cost of your food covers that luxury.

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"p.s. don't cry... I could hear your voice cracking with tears as I read your post... It will be ok. "

haha seriously? i haven't heard the "don't cry" thing since middle school. usually that always came from some tool who couldn't think of anything better to say anyway. oh, and thanks for addressing part of that post where i was suggesting you put yourself in someone else's shoes.

3/24/2009 8:50:39 PM

it's harris teeter's fault for taking out the cart receptacles from the parking lot.

3/24/2009 8:55:06 PM

Yeah that was a dumb move on their part.

3/24/2009 8:56:20 PM

^^ i believe someone said earlier that they did it to add more parking spaces to accommodate more shoppers

3/24/2009 9:17:25 PM

i hope i see one of you ass hats at harris teeter sometime, i will ghost ride my cart strait in to your car. why you ask, cause its the same as you not putting the cart back and the wind pushing it, or someone bumping it. if it causes damage, tough fucking luck. shit

3/24/2009 9:24:48 PM

3/24/2009 9:30:45 PM

^^^well whatever their reason, they took them out and should therefore expect more carts in the lot.

3/24/2009 9:31:56 PM

this is what's wrong with america.

3/24/2009 10:30:36 PM

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"yeah, because harris teeter considers the fact that johnny the bagger has to go out of his way to get your cart that you left lying around when they mark up the price on items. come on man. i'll give you employee salaries, but saying part of the cost of your rice krispies is justifying you being too lazy to walk a couple yards with an empty cart is a stretch."

Yes, because otherwise, if they weren't covering their costs, they would go out of business. Don't be a dumbass.

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"oh, and thanks for addressing part of that post where i was suggesting you put yourself in someone else's shoes."

Seriously, don't cry man.

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"why you ask, cause its the same as you not putting the cart back and the wind pushing it, or someone bumping it. if it causes damage, tough fucking luck. shit"

Its funny, because you won't find any posts in this thread that excuse someone for leaving their cart rolling loose in the lot. But since you can't win the argument any other way, I understand you need to resort to a straw man.

3/25/2009 7:43:54 AM

Just went to HT in CV this evening


Take a guess what I did with my hand basket

3/25/2009 6:26:17 PM

dear whiners in this thread.

You get paid to do your job. SO DO YOUR FUCKING JOB AND STFU.

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3/25/2009 6:32:17 PM

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"Yes, because otherwise, if they weren't covering their costs, they would go out of business. Don't be a dumbass."

you being too lazy to put your cart away and feeling an unjustified sense of entitlement is not included in price markups. nobody says "yeah but we have to charge $.01 more on this because that guy wants to leave his cart wherever he feels like it." don't be a dumbass.

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"Seriously, don't cry man."

i can't help it. any time i see a cart loose in a parking lot it just brings me back to a part of my life i want to forget . thanks for addressing that part of that one post though. you know, the one where i suggested you exude some shred of humanity and think about other people. it shows a lot about your character.

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"Its funny, because you won't find any posts in this thread that excuse someone for leaving their cart rolling loose in the lot."

yeah but you make it a point to make someone else's job harder by reporting that you intentionally left your cart on the grass area when there was a corral next to it as well as the comment about the basket. if you're being serious then you're no better than the people who leave carts rolling around

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 8:45 PM. Reason : .]

3/25/2009 8:44:24 PM

so pretty much,

the stocker, that stocks the shelves can just put anything where ever they want to. whats to say you need bread, and its in the softdrink isle. you go and ask the manager, "hey the the bread isnt in the bread isle",
"its around here somewhere", says the stock boy. you find it and, say it wasnt where its supposed to be. true says the stock boy, i was just making it harder for you as a shopper.

point is.

things go in designated places for a reason. its easier for EVERYone

maybe a good scenario, maybe not for some

3/25/2009 9:31:53 PM

^ If you did that, no one would shop there and then your store would go out of business and you wouldn't have a job anymore. See how that works? That's a little example of why they say, "the customer is always right"

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"thanks for addressing that part of that one post though. you know, the one where i suggested you exude some shred of humanity and think about other people."

Do you need a tissue for them tears?

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"nobody says "yeah but we have to charge $.01 more on this because that guy wants to leave his cart wherever he feels like it.""

Well you see, that might be why you're out there grabbing carts for someone who actually KNOWS how to run a business and make a profit. Of course they adjust prices based on their employee costs. If their employees are constantly working overtime or additional hours to pick up carts, then they will have to do something to compensate for the increased cost, whether it is cutting back somewhere else, or raising prices.

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"you make it a point to make someone else's job harder"

I do no such thing. I merely left my cart where it wouldn't roll around loose in the parking lot. The store clearly has people whose job is to go around and gather up the carts. I availed myself of that service which I am paying for through the cost of the food.

3/26/2009 8:03:16 AM

bag your own groceries
ring up your own stuff
cut your own meat
if something you want is out of stock, go to the stockroom yourself and find it
search for your own loaf of bread if you can't find the aisle

Please don't bother the poor downtrodden HT employees for anything. If you do, you are a horrible human being and I may have to re-evaluate our friendship.

3/26/2009 8:15:34 AM

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"If you did that, no one would shop there and then your store would go out of business and you wouldn't have a job anymore. See how that works? That's a little example of why they say, "the customer is always right" "

So if you walk into the bathroom at McDonald's, and take a dump on the floor instead of the toilet, are you in the right? As a customer?

I mean, they pay someone to clean the bathrooms, and as a customer, all you need to do is drop your turd in the corner where it won't roll around loose and maybe into some other customer's shoe while they take a leak.

3/26/2009 9:34:04 AM

3/26/2009 9:45:21 AM

Solinari is, always has and always will be a waste of human flesh
dude is nothing but a cancer and a snitch
the one person on TWW that i really have not been able to stand over the years is this faggot

i guess he thinks those HT employees were hired for the sole reason of gathering carts? no, they are hired to do multiple jobs and gathering carts is just a part of the job description.

why not take the extra few steps to at least push it back up to the sidewalk you lazy piece of shit?

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"Just went to HT in CV this evening Take a guess what I did with my hand basket "

you probably tried to shove it up your ass since you get down like that

[Edited on March 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM. Reason : sdf]

3/26/2009 10:26:13 AM

this has never been a discussion in the past. there has never been a problem with customers leaving carts where they do. This thread was just started because some pissed off harris teeter employee hates his job.

3/26/2009 11:10:13 AM

you havent even been a member of this site long enough to say what has and has not been discussed

3/26/2009 11:15:17 AM

i thought about this thread last night when i didnt put my cart away properly, the cart thing was full anyway and the carts were sticking out into the lane of traffic

[Edited on March 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM. Reason : fdsa]

3/26/2009 11:19:08 AM

where dd you put it?

3/26/2009 11:20:05 AM

The obvious solution to this problem is to invent robot operated carts that follow you or perhaps some elaborate system of vacuum tubes to shoot your groceries into your car.

3/26/2009 11:20:08 AM

or to take away the carts

3/26/2009 11:21:39 AM

^ on the opposite side against the cart holder thing-a-ma-bob so it wasnt in any parking spots and still in the parking space assigned for the cart holder thing

3/26/2009 11:22:43 AM

^so does that mean there's a chance Ragged would ghostride his cart into your car?!?!? that'd be an interesting scenario

3/26/2009 11:24:38 AM

i worked at HT about a billion years ago when i was 17. the baggers were lazy as shit and didnt do anything but goof off in the back room all the time. if i worked a several hr shift it would have been amazing if i had a bagger help me for more than like an hour total. i doubt that someone leaving their cart in the lot is specifically making the price of HTs shit go up, since they are already paying a lot of people to do nothing.

3/26/2009 11:25:09 AM

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"you havent even been a member of this site long enough to say what has and has not been discussed"

i'm not talking about tww, i'm talking about real life. believe it or not i actually discuss things with people outside of this site.

3/26/2009 11:28:57 AM

you should clarify next time then
i mean, since this is an internet forum and this is a discussion online and all

3/26/2009 11:34:13 AM

Why is this thread still going?

3/26/2009 11:46:30 AM

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"^so does that mean there's a chance Ragged would ghostride his cart into your car?!?!? that'd be an interesting scenario "

if i didnt know her then yes. the white thing would have been to taken it back inside and brought it to a managers attention.

its really pathetic, to see how lazy americans are, no wonder we have the highest % of fat people in the world

3/26/2009 11:55:07 AM

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"^so does that mean there's a chance Ragged would ghostride his cart into your car?!?!? that'd be an interesting scenario"

no he would have no right too i brought it over to the cart thing but there was no space in it so i put it on the opposite side, but not in any free parking spaces,

there was a pole there too i nudge the cart between to hold

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"if i didnt know her then yes. the white thing would have been to taken it back inside and brought it to a managers attention. "

and why do i need to tell the manager its full, he should be checking himself, its not hurting me by being full so why waste my time

[Edited on March 26, 2009 at 12:21 PM. Reason : fds]

3/26/2009 12:15:11 PM

there are some major idiots in this thread

Solinari takes teh cake

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"If I feel that the store has overpriced merchandise then I will not help to bag my groceries, nor will I go out of my way to return the carts. I will certainly make sure that the carts are not rolling around in the parking lot, though. "

If you think its overpriced than GTFO. I have no problem paying the premium of HT to have a clean store, faster checkout, better meat dept,
higher quality prepped food, and various other perks of HT compared to fucking walmart or even food lion.

I may pay .60/lb over .40/lb for onions or 8.99 for a 12 pack over 8.09 but this is worth it over the pain, hassle, and inconvience of having to deal
with the walmart crowd.

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"That quote should've concluded this thread. If you don't like your job, quit"

While it is unfortuante that you have no consideration to teh baggers the main reason for putting your cart away is so it does not roll into
someone's car u fucking bitch.

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"basically, if he's getting paid to do a mundane task, then you're "supposed to" do it for him "

Nobody is asking you to put all the carts back in the store. There is no reason though except you own damn laziness that you can't traverse the two
parking spaces seperating your car from the cart corrall.

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". Like I originally said, I believe that I am paying for people to go and pick up my carts"

When i visit a restaurant it is the busboy's job to clean up my mess. This does not mean I will slob all over my table leaving crumbs, dishes scattered,
and eat like a barbarian since I know that someone else has to clean my mess anyway.

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"because otherwise, if they weren't covering their costs, they would go out of business. Don't be a dumbass."

I bet you are the same guy bitching that you have to bag our own groceries b.c the lazy bagger is gone when in reality he is outside chasing
the 20 random carts laying around b.c 20 random fucks decided to put them wherever the hell they felt like.

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"So if you walk into the bathroom at McDonald's, and take a dump on the floor instead of the toilet, are you in the right? As a customer? I mean, they pay someone to clean the bathrooms, and as a customer, all you need to do is drop your turd in the corner where it won't roll around loose and maybe into some other customer's shoe while they take a leak. "

lol for the winz

If you do not want to put your cart away or feel HT is to pricey please drive your self down to Walmart where u can shop with all the
rest of societies lowlifes and scum

3/26/2009 12:35:29 PM

set em up

3/26/2009 1:57:40 PM