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I just want to point out that Boone made bars go smoke-free last year, but then let them go back to allowing smoking when the revenue bottomed out.

5/14/2009 10:04:06 AM

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"In our society, it should be common courtesy to go outside and smoke and spare the 80% of the population that doesn't smoke."

This is what I'm talking about. I'd probably be a bit more irked if the smokers didn't act like every bar was their sanctuary and every non smoker just had to fuck off. If they (and the owners) were making provisions for the smokers to get their cancer the hell out, I'd be a lot more outraged about laws like this. But as it is, with smokers not giving a fuck or having any sort of a common courtesy to take their filthy habit outside, I'm fine with the government nudging them.

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM. Reason : .]

5/14/2009 10:07:30 AM

for pg 4

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"If you're at a restaurant or a bar and you have to fart, you go outside."

that is one of the best things i've read on here in a long time

5/14/2009 10:11:13 AM

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". But as it is, with smokers not giving a fuck or having any sort of a common courtesy to take their filthy habit outside, I'm fine with the government nudging them."

BECAUSE IT'S THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT TO COMPEL INDIVIDUALS TO BE COURTEOUS

5/14/2009 10:25:23 AM

5/14/2009 10:27:06 AM

the government isnt tolerant of my lifestyle choice

fags can get married, its their right, but i cant allow smoking at my bar

5/14/2009 10:30:39 AM

woah woah woah woah

smokers oughta be courteous enough to go smoke outside?

i'm sorry, but back when i smoked, the whole appeal of a bar was that i could go smoke inside.

seriously, going to a bar you know is going to be smoky and bitching about it is like going to an indian place and bitching because it reeks of curry.

5/14/2009 10:38:44 AM

When the State government sees Cig Tax revenue plummet they will reverse this.

...

I hope.

I dont even smoke anymore and I think this is a horrible idea.

5/14/2009 10:39:22 AM

You can still smoke on decks and patios at bars tho, right?

5/14/2009 10:42:11 AM

I think you'll see a combination of the following:

- bars that go completely smoke-free
- bars that become private clubs, charge you a $0.50 cover on your tab or something, and allow smoking
- bars that ban smoking until maybe 10pm or 11pm, then allow smoking

^I would assume so

5/14/2009 10:42:15 AM

since i quit, the smell of cigarette smoke makes me .

but, allah be praised, i have sense enough to not go to smoky bars without being ready for the consequences.

5/14/2009 10:42:45 AM

actually going in a bar and complaining about the smell of alcohol is the same thing as going in an indian restaurant and complaining about the smell of curry.

since curry is what restaurants sell. bars don't sell cigarettes.

a better comparison would be smoke:bar... and... well... smoke:indian restaurant

5/14/2009 10:44:30 AM

I bet there will be a "strange odor" in bars that you didn't notice before.

5/14/2009 10:44:42 AM

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"In our society, it should be common courtesy to go outside and smoke and spare the 80% of the population that doesn't smoke."

So, it is the government's role to enforce "common" courtesy? Okay, every goddamn baby in a bar or restaurant needs to be removed. Also, every BO stinking asshole that comes into a place of business needs to be escorted from the building by a G-man in dark sunglasses. If thats the way we are gonna play it, let's all be completely fair about this. If anything offends anyone for any reason, it should be banned by big daddy government.

5/14/2009 10:45:09 AM

^^^^ but, allah (shit be upon him), I have sense enough to vote people into power that will take care of this shit so that I don't have to smell that shit every time I want to have a drink.

I don't give a fuck if you don't like it. I love it.

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 10:46 AM. Reason : *]

5/14/2009 10:46:16 AM

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"since curry is what restaurants sell. bars don't sell cigarettes."

Indian restaurants sell more than just curry.
Bars do sell cigarettes.
0 for 2.

5/14/2009 10:46:27 AM

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"bars don't sell cigarettes. "

the hell you say. it's for like 6 bucks a pack, but most bars sell them.

5/14/2009 10:46:38 AM

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"I just want to point out that Boone made bars go smoke-free last year, but then let them go back to allowing smoking when the revenue bottomed out."

not in the least bit relevant...there's nothing to do in boone except smoke pot or drink/smoke cigarettes in the first place

5/14/2009 10:48:17 AM

having lived in both boone and raleigh, i feel teh need to point out that there aint' shit to do in raleigh either

5/14/2009 10:49:46 AM

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"I have sense enough to vote people into power that will take care of this shit so that I don't have to smell that shit every time I want to have a drink. I don't give a fuck if you don't like it. I love it."

Well, you're the worst kind of american. Good job ignoring history and morality and instead adopting a view where it's acceptable for popular majorities to trample the rights of unpopular minorities.

5/14/2009 10:50:07 AM

I'm ok with getting my way.

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 10:50 AM. Reason : *]

5/14/2009 10:50:32 AM

UNPOPULAR AND ICKY

5/14/2009 10:50:39 AM

curry has a strong smell. they sell curry. i didn't say it was the only thing they sold.

I don't smoke. so if they have cigs packed away somewhere for people then i didn't know. definitely not displayed or anything.

5/14/2009 10:51:47 AM

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"definitely not displayed or anything"

They are clearly displayed at most bars I've seen.

5/14/2009 10:55:15 AM

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"I'm ok with getting my way."

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"Well, you're the worst kind of american. Good job ignoring history and morality and instead adopting a view where it's acceptable for popular majorities to trample the rights of unpopular minorities."

5/14/2009 10:56:09 AM

does the smell of curry make you sick? probably not. but if it did, would you go to an indian plac. i would hope not. and if you did anyhow, then what the fuck is wrong with you?

if bars thought they would pull in more revenue by being nonsmoking, i promise you that they would have banned it a long time ago.

5/14/2009 10:56:50 AM

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"I'm ok with getting my way."

-DeltaBeta

haha i can't believe a d00d actually said that. talk about queeny.

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM. Reason : ``]

5/14/2009 10:57:27 AM

ah, go figure. I never see them and i'm normally pretty good about looking behind bars and such.

5/14/2009 10:57:31 AM

good i can go out now and not come back smelling like smoke

this is a victory for us all

5/14/2009 10:58:14 AM

until your favorite bars start closing/become provate clubs so they can continue to allow smoking

then it's not much of a victory

5/14/2009 11:00:18 AM

shit, where can I get some of those Death brand cigarettes?

5/14/2009 11:00:35 AM

People that claim to smell smoke after walking past smokers are typically over reacting. Its a mental thing. One more thing for them to complain about.

5/14/2009 11:01:16 AM

there already are "non-smoking" bars.

if it was that big of a deal in the first place, most of you that are praising the gubment would have already been actively seeking out said "non-smoking" bars and patronizing them.

from what i can gather from this thread, you don't want to be inconvenienced so you go to a bar that allows smoking, and then complain about the smoking.

and you call the smokers whiners

5/14/2009 11:02:06 AM

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"People that claim to smell smoke after walking past smokers are typically over reacting. Its a mental thing."

bull-fucking-shit...just because your nose doesn't work doesn't mean everyone else's is broken, too

5/14/2009 11:02:29 AM

5/14/2009 11:03:03 AM

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"there already are "non-smoking" bars. if it was that big of a deal in the first place, most of you that are praising the gubment would have already been actively seeking out said "non-smoking" bars and patronizing them. from what i can gather from this thread, you don't want to be inconvenienced so you go to a bar that allows smoking, and then complain about the smoking. and you call the smokers whiners "

5/14/2009 11:04:28 AM

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"People that claim to smell smoke after walking past smokers are typically over reacting. Its a mental thing. One more thing for them to complain about."

I don't ever complain about it, but that is just ridiculous...

** Am I bad person because I actually like when this kind of stuff is talked about because ^ this guy seems to be set off kilter from it...

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 11:05 AM. Reason : x]

5/14/2009 11:04:37 AM

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"shit, where can I get some of those Death brand cigarettes? "

they sold them at the smoker friendly in Charlotte... so I imagine any smoke shop might be a good place to check out

5/14/2009 11:06:21 AM

i'm not gonna go back and read all these pages, just answer me this:

when does this go into effect? if i go watch Game 7 at the bar tonight, will they have already implemented the NO SMOKING thing?

5/14/2009 11:08:02 AM

not until 2010

5/14/2009 11:09:19 AM

i hate you

5/14/2009 11:09:34 AM

jan 2 2010 is what i read

5/14/2009 11:10:22 AM

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"bull-fucking-shit...just because your nose doesn't work doesn't mean everyone else's is broken, too"

-quagmire02

you have been conditioned by hours of "DARE" elementary-school training and "TRUTH" TV commercials to believe that smoking is a yucky, nasty smelling habit (no one smokes because it is healthy, so they had to attack the idea that smoking was "cool"). The sad thing is that if you were born 50 years ago, you would have the opposite opinion because smoking was the norm (note: i am not talking the objective health impacts of smoking, but the subjective perception that cigarette smoke "smells bad").

Welcome to the world of the weak willed masses. Population: You.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQm2AFwqxjU&feature=related

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM. Reason : ``]

5/14/2009 11:10:57 AM

no shit, seriously? wtf it takes more than 6mos to implement? i hate that shit, that's like the entire football season.

5/14/2009 11:11:02 AM

5/14/2009 11:11:42 AM

^ brilliant

5/14/2009 11:12:17 AM

^^ I thought about it but was too lazy.

5/14/2009 11:13:42 AM

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"But the fact that you can vote them the fuck out trumps all."

Absolutely not. One of the cornerstones of our Republic is the concept that even the minority has rights that are protected, often to the displeasure of the majority.

5/14/2009 11:19:33 AM

i'm glad you folks ran with that

5/14/2009 11:21:04 AM

i live in maryland and we just went through a state wide smoking ban a couple years ago. everyone made a big deal about it (just like this thread) before it went into effect but the transition was very smooth and easy. now, its just normal to go outside and smoke it you want to, and no one thinks twice about it. business was not impacted. north carolina won't be any different.

[Edited on May 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM. Reason : f]

5/14/2009 11:25:30 AM