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that reminds me, i think we should go with 6 minute quarters instead of 5, games still take roughly 50-60 minutes but the games don't feel as condensed, and it allows you to actually setup a run game. also note that they are adding the "milk the clock" feature this year so games will be even shorter than last year

7/7/2009 6:51:36 PM

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fine with me

7/7/2009 7:43:35 PM

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^^Works for me too. But, with that said, I definitely would have been 0-2 against you last year had we gone with 6-minute quarters, haha....

7/7/2009 10:23:44 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcqmYlRcekE

I skipped 06 but this it too funny.

7/8/2009 8:44:40 PM

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offensive/deensive playbooks for all teams. It's an executable ebook
http://www.ncaa10tips.com/pc

And looks like all of the old 360 roster people are out this year, so not sure when a named 360 roster will be available.

7/9/2009 5:31:34 PM

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pttyndal and I always have a communication gap haha... when you say "all of the old 360 roster people are out this year" do you mean they are no longer producing the rosters and therefore we dont know when a named roster will be available, or do you mean they are out as in "they have made it known they will be making rosters this year" but we dont know when they will be available?

7/9/2009 5:40:45 PM

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they said they weren't doing them this year. RomanCaesar(rosters from last year) said he wasn't planning on getting the game but if he did he was just going make the rosters for his friends and the other guy said he wasn't planning on doing them.

7/9/2009 5:53:24 PM

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Somebody will make them, you worrisome fucks. It might take a few extra days, sure, but they'll be multiple sets up within 10 days of the game's release

I used to stay up all night on the ps2 pounding out rosters myself, but fuck that now, I'm way too much of an asset for busy work

7/9/2009 6:28:16 PM

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yeah, nature will find a way and shit

7/9/2009 7:09:57 PM

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ha, got bored and wrote a little java program to assign teams. Jaybee got tennessee and halo found his way to fsu again. lol only problem is that the ACC ended up with 3 atlantic teams and only 1 coastal

LSU : EZ2Score21
NCSU : Slave Famous
Georgia :
GT :
South Carolina : NyM410
Ole Miss :
Clemson : iceman72
Miami :
FSU : HaLo
VT : pttyndal
Tennessee :Jaybee1200
Bama : Apocalypse

7/9/2009 7:50:33 PM

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Hahaha, not bad. I still say we choose though...(that and I don't want LSU)

7/9/2009 8:44:13 PM

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hmm...after changing a few things, it gives me this order. lol too funny

EZ2Score21
pttyndal
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Slave Famous
HaLo
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iceman72

7/9/2009 8:54:46 PM

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would this be for xbox or ps3??

7/9/2009 9:19:49 PM

pttyndal
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360

7/9/2009 9:46:26 PM

Slave Famous
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we should be able to get 12

last year we had 12 and people were sucking us off to try to get in

Nym410 sent me like 30 pm's till we finally admitted him

7/9/2009 9:47:06 PM

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I should be game for the online dynasty. Even though I'm reluctant to give EA 60 bucks for a rehash. Are you waiting on a decent agreeable roster before starting the dynasty?

7/9/2009 10:22:57 PM

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I'm not sure if I'm really fond of the new chew clock option. It looks like it doesn't give you anytime if you want to move one of your offensive players. Which it looks like you can turn it on/off from the play call screen so I guess if you have a play where you want to motion someone and have them get set or not run all the time off at the end of a quarter before you can run a play.

Does everyone approve of the team draft idea and when does everybody plan on getting the game? If all of us will be getting the game on release day or soon after, I think an online, single elimination tournament to see who gets #1 pick would be something cool and would kill time while we're waiting on rosters.

[Edited on July 9, 2009 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]

7/9/2009 10:46:03 PM

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i know ill be getting it tuesday sometime... got a 45 dolla credit at my local playntrade. ive been looking at some forums and it looks like Heisman316 should be making a pretty good roster although he says it will take a while to make it perfect. a tourny for first pick does sound fun while we waste time to get a good set of rosters

7/9/2009 11:18:27 PM

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" I think an online, single elimination tournament to see who gets #1 pick would be something cool and would kill time while we're waiting on rosters."


I'm just playing devil's advocate, but are you sure you would want the best player having the best team?

7/9/2009 11:46:58 PM

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yeah, shit should be random... half the fun is having a team you dont know

7/9/2009 11:49:49 PM

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anyone seen a listing of the team star ratings yet? if so, a link would be appreciated.

everyone is starting with a 3 star or less in the dynasty i'm in and i just wanted to get a jump on picking my team.

7/10/2009 10:00:26 AM

pttyndal
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^^^ hmm...hadn't considered that. lol maybe random is better

^ usually prestige and team rankings are out by now but I haven't seen anything yet this year.

7/10/2009 11:40:57 AM

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I guess I can see either side (of choosing a team vs. randomly placed to a team). But if someone wants a particular team, why not let them have it? And everyone else who wants to be random can do that?

There isn't a particular team that I really want (hell, I was Wake Forest last year), but there are some teams that I really don't want to be. I don't even want a top 25 team, I like to build a team somewhat, which is one reason I didn't want LSU...

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 12:49 PM. Reason : thoughts?]

7/10/2009 12:48:04 PM

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I like the 3-stars or less idea... we could randomly assign each person three 3-star teams nationally and let them pick who they want... i dont think us being in the same conference is that big of a deal, plus it would make the league go a LOT faster since people wouldnt have to coordinate as much... and it would make it more "special" when people got to play each other

7/10/2009 4:10:37 PM

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fuck that, the point of the online league is to play a lot of human vs human games, not make them "special" as he so quaintly puts it

Yeah it would be really fun to be ECU while Jaybee is Fresno State and HaLo is UTEP

7/10/2009 4:17:32 PM

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I'm gald you agree.


To keep assbitch from crying we could limit it to 3-star or under in 2-3 conferences

7/10/2009 4:20:48 PM

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No No No

We're not changing everything around this late in the game

We're not going from Miami and LSU to Marshall and Lafayyete

I know Jaybee get's a sweatpants boner with all the non-gameplay elements because his stick skills are subpar

but we're not doing this radical overhaul just to appease a select few

I'm putting my fucking foot down

7/10/2009 4:24:30 PM

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hater in the house

7/10/2009 4:52:24 PM

HaLo
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^ you are certainly free to setup another online dynasty, i think it would be kind of fun; however, I think the official dynasty has already been agreed upon.

pttyndal: I think its time to start the 2010 official thread for online dynasty, that may catch more peoples attention that would want to join up.

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .]

7/10/2009 4:54:17 PM

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Yeah it was agreed upon in the last 3 pages over a period of several weeks

You don't just come in on the Friday before release and make wholesale changes

Thats not how it works

7/10/2009 4:56:34 PM

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7/10/2009 5:01:24 PM

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nevermind...

grr

they are coming out with Madden '10 on the Wii but not NCAA?

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM. Reason : wtf]

7/10/2009 5:06:19 PM

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"we should be able to get 12

last year we had 12 and people were sucking us off to try to get in

Nym410 sent me like 30 pm's till we finally admitted him"


lol, what? I was in originally then decided not to b/c of school/thinking of going PS3 instead and then was handed someone elses team when you guys kicked him out.

7/10/2009 5:09:19 PM

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NyM410 is all about some revisionist history... Zapruder film watching motherfucker

7/10/2009 5:19:31 PM

Slave Famous
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yeah horsehit...don't make me post them here

7/10/2009 5:25:30 PM

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Did you ever paypal me the $50 from Mets/Braves last year JB? I can't remember.

(only asked because I was going through my PMs to see how many I actually did send -- it was 3 all in responses to Slave -- and saw that Ernie did and couldn't remember if you ever did).

7/10/2009 5:39:23 PM

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Ha, I forgot about that

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"I'm sure you'll be able to buy your boyfriend something nice with the $50, so congrats "


Good one, Ernie

7/10/2009 5:44:28 PM

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Yes I did. You commented on my high moral standards

7/10/2009 5:46:13 PM

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Ok, cool.. I thought you did, but didn't feel like logging on to paypal to check.

7/10/2009 5:48:17 PM

pttyndal
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currently working on the official online dynasty thread so it should be up soon.

7/10/2009 6:18:07 PM

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^^ Sept 11th, 2009, $25, Bryan L.


never forget

7/10/2009 6:22:29 PM

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So what's the official word on how we are doing everything?

I guess we need to answer the following questions:
-Do we choose our team or are we randomly assigned?
-If we choose what's the order of selection?
-Are we doing 6 SEC and 6 ACC teams?
-Are we setting a prestige limit?

I'm OK with any of the above, but my votes are below:
-Choose team.
-I say random selection or longevity in last years league.
-6 ACC, 6 SEC.
-Any prestige.

7/10/2009 7:53:04 PM

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ok, just trying to finalize the rules. It's pretty much a slimmed down version of last season's rules. Let me know if anything should be added or changed.

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"1. Kickoffs: Onside kicks are not allowed unless you are a) behind 10 pts or more or b) you are behind in the 4th quarter.

2. Fourth Down: Whenever in a 4th down situation, the offensive player must punt unless it is a 4th and short situation from beyond your team's 40yd line or in your opponent's territory. Going for it while behind in a late game situation is also acceptable.

3. Substitutions: Quite a few teams now have their own version of the wildcat formation, so using the in-game qb-hb player subs is acceptable. Manually substituting the hb for the qb in other formations isn't allowed.

4. QB Play: Whenever possible, stay inside the pocket unless you are forced out. Dropping back 20 yds or running around with a scrambling qb to complete a pass isn't allowed.

5. Sportsmanship:
a) No running up the score. For our purposes, defeating your opponent by 35 points or more is excessive.
b) Stat padding will be frowned upon especially against another user controlled team. When up by more than 2 scores late in the game, take advantage of the new Chew Clock feature and run the ball. Avoid getting an extra score when you can just run the clock out by kneeling.

6. Disconnects: These are an unfortunate consequence of playing online. Whenever 2 users are disconnected early in a game, the users will play a new game. If a disconnect occurs in the 2nd half, one of three things can happen:
a) both coaches can agree to start a new game at 0-0
b) the team trailing can concede defeat (note: the trailing team will automatically concede defeat if losing by more than 2 scores with less than 2 min to go); or
c) if an agreement can't be reached, I'll flip a coin. Heads-the team leading gets the win, Tails- a new game will be played
*don't attempt to disconnect by pulling the plug because you're losing. Please report any suspected user disconnects of this type

7. Misc:
a) 1-AA(FCS) teams will be replaced with a 3* or above team of your choice.
b) Any offensive/defensive playbook may be used
c) 3 Strikes and you're out policy- 3 complaints will result in removal from the league. If a player is breaking one of the rules, let them know. If they continue, save one of the video highlights and send me a pm
d) Multiple restarts against cpu controlled teams will not be allowed."

7/10/2009 7:55:06 PM

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I think that the 12 teams that pttyndal had listed like halfway up the page is good for teams. leaves out the crappy teams and the ones (florida) that are way to freaking good

7/10/2009 8:24:33 PM

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and none of those apply to Jaybee1200 because I dont do that shit all the time, so if I do do it, its being Spurrier like realistic

7/10/2009 10:07:15 PM

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Quote :
""1. Kickoffs: Onside kicks are not allowed unless you are a) behind 10 pts or more or b) you are behind in the 4th quarter. "
unless you Nick Saban, Mark Richt or Les Miles

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"2. Fourth Down: Whenever in a 4th down situation, the offensive player must punt unless it is a 4th and short situation from beyond your team's 40yd line or in your opponent's territory. Going for it while behind in a late game situation is also acceptable"
unless you are Steve Spurrier, Les Miles, or Urban Meyer

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" 5. Sportsmanship:
a) No running up the score. For our purposes, defeating your opponent by 35 points or more is excessive.
b) Stat padding will be frowned upon especially against another user controlled team. When up by more than 2 scores late in the game, take advantage of the new Chew Clock feature and run the ball. Avoid getting an extra score when you can just run the clock out by kneeling. "
unless you are Florida


The scrambling rule is somewhat loose too...dropping back 20 yards yeah but what about roll outs and bootlegs?

As an observer, some of those rules are really good...others are meh because they actually happen.

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 10:22 PM. Reason : 1]

7/10/2009 10:21:41 PM

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just because it really happens doesnt mean you should take advantage of deficiencies in the game... like the option, if you arent Navy or GT you dont run the standard option. I HATE it when I am playing someone and they have freaking Georgia and run the option with Stafford to get the first down because they know the defensive AI sucks against the option

7/10/2009 10:33:46 PM

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^agreed. The defensive AI is still blah at best. The league is about having a good time and not causing people to just say screw it because of the obvious AI exploits.

and yeah, i figured some were a little vague.

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""1. Kickoffs: Onside kicks are not allowed unless you are a) behind 10 pts or more or b) you are behind in the 4th quarter. "

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"unless you Nick Saban, Mark Richt or Les Miles"

Surprise onside kicks to catch your opponent off guard = ok, but going for an onside kick on every kickoff = bad especially with a 90%+ chance of recovering in this year's game once you find the sweet spot. Some people do this online and it just gets ridiculous.

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"2. Fourth Down: Whenever in a 4th down situation, the offensive player must punt unless it is a 4th and short situation from beyond your team's 40yd line or in your opponent's territory. Going for it while behind in a late game situation is also acceptable"

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"unless you are Steve Spurrier, Les Miles, or Urban Meyer"

Again, catching you're opponent offguard with an occasional fake or 4th down try is fine but the offense is still way overpowered in the game and I'm sure we'd have some people going 100% on 4th down conversions unless they're 4th and 20.

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" 5. Sportsmanship:
a) No running up the score. For our purposes, defeating your opponent by 35 points or more is excessive.
b) Stat padding will be frowned upon especially against another user controlled team. When up by more than 2 scores late in the game, take advantage of the new Chew Clock feature and run the ball. Avoid getting an extra score when you can just run the clock out by kneeling. "

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"unless you are Florida"

no one will be florida


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"The scrambling rule is somewhat loose too...dropping back 20 yards yeah but what about roll outs and bootlegs?"

Thankfully, the game penalizes players who drop way back this year by removing the receiver icons. Roll outs and bootlegs are ok, but running around for 30 seconds behind the line of scrimmage is no good.

7/10/2009 10:42:01 PM

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true...
I don't think onside kicks and going for it on 4th are deficiencies though within reason. If you have to all or nothing it to make sure there is no excess that would be understandable. (and i didnt know about the onside kick glitch)

There was something in one of the games a few years ago where you could pooch the ball on the kickoff and destroy the guy as soon as he caught the ball making him fumble. Stuff like that is annoying.

there's some teams (like state) that all I've seen them run the entire game was bootlegs because their blocking was so shitty. UGA ran the option with Stafford from time to time, but like you said it wasn't your typical triple option.

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 10:43 PM. Reason : glitch]

7/10/2009 10:42:24 PM

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Unlessthey added it this year there are no "fake" insides kicks. Seeing as how you can't truly fake it like Les or saban would. There is no point to doing an onside unless you are losing.

7/10/2009 11:08:51 PM

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