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joe17669
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ive been clicking the 'send to apple' every time it crashes. hopefully they'll get the memo.

9/19/2009 6:33:16 PM

dannydigtl
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i've actually been having really good luck w/ Safari in SL, its been perfect. FF 3.5 unfortunately has crashed twice. i'm trying to give Safar a good run these days, but i still feel drawn back toward FF

9/22/2009 7:13:59 AM

brianj320
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i get random crashes when using the latest FF build. i'll be just reading a webpage after everything has loaded and then boom, FF closes and gives the error message. this happens a few times a week; and it's not always on the same page it crashes.

9/24/2009 1:40:19 PM

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I've had the opposite - my FF was crashing before I installed Snow Leopard and now it works perfectly fine.

9/24/2009 1:42:23 PM

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1. have one window open, only on one side of the screen.
2. place the mouse in the middle of the screen (where the window will be in exposé).
3. hit exposé.

i hate that damn blue box, even if its just for a second. not very clean.

9/25/2009 12:17:47 AM

NCSUWolfy
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so i decided it was time to upgrade. i purchased the mac box set to upgrade from tiger to snow leopard. this morning i try to install and apparently i dont have enough RAM for the upgrade. ugh.

im running a 2006 macbook pro with the 1.83 GHz intel core duo and have 512mb of memory and 667 MHz RAM

just to be clear, i dont really know what any of that means, i just know how to find it on my computer

if i am going to crack open my laptop to upgrade RAM, i'd also like to upgrade my harddrive. i have a 100gb external that is about full, mostly of pictures and movies that would be nice to have on my computer

sooo what i need to know is how much RAM i should install. i dont understand RAM very well but i know i need more! i also need to know what kind of RAM and hard drives i should be looking for that will fit my laptop

also as far as installing, my laptop is out of warranty anyway so i dont have a problem with someone going in there to install this stuff. i certainly dont feel comfortable doing it but would trust someone else to install stuff for me. somehow i think the apple store will be too expensive. i'm trying to upgrade and get more life out of my 3.5 year old laptop and not go out and buy a new one.

10/4/2009 12:48:46 PM

Golovko
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^go to http://www.newegg.com and filter by Mac and so on to find the ram that you need. I'm not 100% sure about your model but I believe it can handle 2gb which is what I'd go with. Installing the ram is a piece of cake. Its located under the battery.

do the same thing for the hard drive through http://www.newegg.com and find the compatible hard drives and pick the size you want. Careful with the 750gb hard drive if you do go that high because its not compatible with some macbook's/pros even though technically speaking it is. The issue is that the drive is ever so slightly too thick and your case won't close properly because of it.

As for installing its also really simple and there are tutorial videos online here: http://www.powerbookmedic.com/ if you do want to do it yourself.

10/4/2009 1:02:49 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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ram is VERY cheap. do NOT go to apple for it though, they'll charge you like 3x what it should cost

i'd go with 2GB personally. you should get that for maybe $75 at most?

actually, try this.. pretty sure it will work

http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=163F082CA5CA7304

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"2GB kit (1GBx2), 200-pin SODIMM, DDR2 PC2-5300 memory module
CT541619

* Module Size: 2GB kit (1GBx2)
* Package: 200-pin SODIMM
* Feature: DDR2 PC2-5300
* Specs: DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 1.8V • 128Meg x 64 •
What does this mean?

* Currency converter

US $43.99"


as far as HD's go.. they're also under $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136314 if it's SATA..probably is.

[Edited on October 4, 2009 at 1:06 PM. Reason : lol, didn't read ^'s post before i posted.]

10/4/2009 1:05:15 PM

NCSUWolfy
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what is SATA?

also where can i get a tiny screwdriver that will open my case? im kind of nervous about cracking it open seeing as i have NO idea what i'd be doing and could end up paying someone to help me anyway. maybe i'll put something up on craigslist to have someone install the stuff for me. how long should it take?

10/4/2009 3:13:58 PM

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ram is a 5 minute job. you literally unscrew one cover, pop old chips out, put new chips in, put cover back on..

hard drive is about the same for actually swapping out the drive but then obviously you have to reinstall leopard/move all your shit, blah blah blah

SATA is the type of connector the hard drive uses to connect to the computer. the other option is called IDE. everything i found with the 8 seconds of googling i did says it's SATA though..so yea, any 2.5" SATA drive will do soo google or newegg or whatever will find you something

10/4/2009 3:21:19 PM

stevedude
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i just got 4 GB of ram for my macbook, and it only cost me $40.

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-PSD22G6672S-Signature-PC2-5300-667MHz/dp/B000V5FE3W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1254685408&sr=8-1

10/4/2009 3:42:58 PM

NCSUWolfy
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will 4g of ram really do me any better than 2?

also, i have almost everything on an external hd anyway so swapping out an hd is not a big deal. also i dont have snow leopard installed yet (hence the ram problem)

i do have several applications (some free some i paid for) that i would want to transfer, how can i transfer them between hds without having to pay again? i have no idea how to handle that...

10/4/2009 5:12:19 PM

Noen
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^copy the folders on to your external drive. Then copy them back on the new install. Except for a very few professional apps (Adobe/Autodesk notably), backing up apps on OSX is just copy/paste.

And yes it's worth 4gb. I upgraded my Mac mini to 4gb and it makes it a completely different computer.

10/4/2009 5:26:18 PM

stevedude
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you should check to see what the max ram your macbook is capable of handling

10/4/2009 5:29:08 PM

NCSUWolfy
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how can i find out the max my macbook pro can take?

also if i decide to do this myself, or find someone else to do it-- where do i buy a screwdriver tiny enough for the screws? is there a specific kind i need?

10/4/2009 7:23:52 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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crucial.com can tell you.. just select your model

and home depot will have the screw drivers or lowe's..or any hardware store

[Edited on October 4, 2009 at 7:29 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on October 4, 2009 at 7:30 PM. Reason : or walmart]

10/4/2009 7:29:24 PM

stevedude
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the dollar tree has small screwdriver sets. thats what i got when i upgraded my ram. i think the 1.86 core duo mbp max out at 2GB. maybe someone else can verify this?

10/4/2009 7:31:58 PM

evan
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the core duo MBPs max out at 2GB due to a limitation of the chipset that apple used

10/4/2009 7:33:06 PM

NCSUWolfy
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the 2gb is fine. i will likely be in the market for a new laptop by the time i'd need to do an upgrade this large again

is that 500gb hd posted a size that will fit my laptop? how can i make sure?

i'd like to order everything i need tomorrow so i can get this upgraded and get on with my life

thanks for the help so far, definitely helps me a lot!

10/4/2009 8:52:32 PM

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if you really wanna be sure.. take the old HD out, take a picture of the connector, and post it on here. hell, it'll probably say "SATA blah blah blah" on the case somewhere too..

but i'm sure with about 30 seconds of googling you can figure it out for sure. the only options are SATA and IDE. and all notebooks are 2.5" drives..

[Edited on October 4, 2009 at 8:54 PM. Reason : ]

10/4/2009 8:54:03 PM

stevedude
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the apple system profiler would tell you

10/4/2009 9:11:12 PM

NCSUWolfy
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i have a friend at work that knows a thing or two about macs. i'm going to ask him to install the ram & hd for me. will let you guys know how it goes, thanks for the help!

10/7/2009 2:32:35 PM

Golovko
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^tell him when he pries open the laptop to be very careful maybe even wrap his flat head screwdriver in electrical tape so he doesn't scratch your case.

10/7/2009 2:34:48 PM

DoeoJ
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the new quicktime crashes more than 7 pro did.

10/7/2009 3:17:31 PM

NCSUWolfy
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an ant crawled out of my laptop tonight

i need to crack this fucker open sooner than i thought.

10/7/2009 8:50:12 PM

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http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/10/11/major-bug-in-snow-leopard-deletes-all-user-data/

10/12/2009 10:56:12 AM

Golovko
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^interesting because I've had friends use my guest account since day one and log out of it and i haven't run into that issue. Good thing i'm using time machine just in case

10/12/2009 11:14:59 AM

brianj320
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good thing i don't use guest accounts on mine; but that is a very nasty serious bug that should be fixed asap. what i don't like reading is the fact it's been known about since launch and nothing has been done to fix it.

10/12/2009 11:21:13 AM

NCSUWolfy
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i read about this today too.. definitely worries me as im preparing to install snow leopard by the end of the week.

just to be clear... can someone define what is meant by guest account? i dont know if i should be worried. i am the main user of the computer and im the admin or whatever but my boyfriend also has his own login. is that considered a 'guest' account? or is a guest account another account without a required password to get in? he's the only other person who uses my laptop and since his ipods are sync'd to my computer, it makes sense for him to have his own itunes library and a separate login was the best way to achieve that.

if that IS considered a guest account, can someone better explain this
Quote :
"It seems the only work around at this stage is to disable the Guest account, or at least disable it and then re-enabling it so that it's a native Snow Leopard account. Another suggestion is to create a new account and enforce parental controls, if you really need a temporary account."
im kind of confused by the directions

also im upgrading from tiger so perhaps i have nothing to worry about at all? i plan to back every thing up before the upgrade but i'm still worried

10/12/2009 9:25:19 PM

Fry
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A Guest account and just another account are two different things. IIRC, a Guest account's username is Guest. If your boyfriend's account has something else for his username, you're probably just fine. FWIW I haven't noticed any problems like data loss with my SL install, and I've had it since a few days after the release.

10/12/2009 11:30:47 PM

1337 b4k4
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The guest account is a specific account you can enable on the computer. It's essentially a very limited account for guests that, when the guest logs out, deletes all the saved information in the guest account so that each time someone logs in with the guest account, it's like a brand new account.

[Edited on October 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM. Reason : asdf]

10/13/2009 7:57:27 AM

agentlion
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you guys are mistaken. never happened.

Quote :
"See, the fact is, Borg loving shills like PC World's David Coursey will make a big deal out of anything. Now the problem is that we were too slow in acknowledging some bug in Snow Leopard that isn't even a bug at all -- it's an anomaly. There's a difference. You can look it up.

It's this whole thing about Snow Leopard eating people's data, which I can tell you is not actually happening. Ever. Not to a single person. Hasn't happened. Any statement to the contrary is simply not true. It's based on false information. "

http://www.fakesteve.net/2009/10/grumbling-hack-grumbles-about-our-non.html

10/14/2009 1:00:39 AM

NCSUWolfy
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FUCK FUCK FUCK

so i ordered the wrong RAM and the chip doesn't fit in my laptop so i have to send it back and wait for my new shit to get here

soo question. can i keep the 1gb ram i already have and just add another 1gb? or should i just order 2 chips from the same manufacturer?

i am now more clear on what i need to get as far as selection a chip, i just need to know if i can mix and match or if i should just get 2 new chips

i should have known better. computer upgrades and updates never go as planned!!

10/16/2009 12:34:20 AM

El Nachó
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Your current 1GB is probably made up of 2x512MB chips, so in order to upgrade you'd need to replace both.

If, for some weird reason, you have one single 1GB chip, then yeah you can, and probably should, buy an identical chip to match it.

10/16/2009 12:45:50 AM

agentlion
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btw, I haven't had Safari crash on me in several weeks now, even though it's temporarily stalled or gotten bogged down occasionally after running for many days or with dozens of tabs open for extended periods.

Middle of last month, like many people, it was crashing constantly. I don't recall if it stopped with the OS X 10.6.1 update, or with Safari 4.0.3, but whenever they did seemed to work.

10/16/2009 1:30:25 AM

NCSUWolfy
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ok kids i need help again!

i got the new (right) RAM, installed it and installed my new hard drive using a video on youtube. i'm very confident i did it all right, there were no major issues or question marks, i followed the instructions and it all went the same as the video. i screwed it all back together and put in the leopard CD and held down C while i powerd it on (plugged it in)

the disk is spinning but the screen is black and the power light on the front just below the mouse is flashing.

any ideas? i dont want to open this fucker back up, i already ended up with 2 spare screws

10/23/2009 11:01:56 PM

1337 b4k4
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If it's flashing 3 times, then it's a RAM issue. Either the RAM isn't properly installed, is the wrong type, or is bad.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2341

[Edited on October 23, 2009 at 11:20 PM. Reason : link]

10/23/2009 11:17:24 PM

NCSUWolfy
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thanks for helping me narrow it down! it is flashing 3 times, 1 time per second then a quick pause.

i checked and one of the chips didnt seem to be pushed in all the way. i started it back up and the same problem. any other ideas?

i got the RAM from other world computing, it fits properly and its twin 1gb chips, i just got it in the mail today and took it out of the package...

halp!!

10/23/2009 11:36:47 PM

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Since it's a macbook pro, it can boot with one RAM chip just fine, the best way to figure out what's going on is to remove one chip and see if it boots. If it doesn't, try moving the chip to the other RAM slot, if that doesn't work, try doing the same thing with the other RAM chip.

If it boots with a single chip in one slot and not the other, it's most likely a logic board issue, and you'll need to call apple or make an appointment at one of the stores. If it boots fine from either slot with a single chip, then most likely the other chip is bad.

10/23/2009 11:55:32 PM

NCSUWolfy
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ohh boy. logic board issue sounds expensive.

i will try booting with one chip at a time in each slot to narrow it down further. thanks! hopefully its just the RAM and i can swap it out

10/24/2009 9:58:05 AM

NCSUWolfy
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YESS

so i put my old RAM chip into the original spot and used one of the new RAM chips in the second slot. it booted up great and now i'm onto installing snow leopard

when i just had that new piece of RAM in the slot the original was in, i got the error message

is it ok to used mixed RAM? its working so i dont know if i should expect long term problems. hey as long as it works, im not really a snob about whats under the hood

10/24/2009 10:21:27 AM

1337 b4k4
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Generally, as long as the RAM is the same type, you shouldn't have any problems. When you start up, check About this Mac in the apple menu and make sure it says you have the amount of RAM you think you should have. If not, I'm guessing your new RAM is bad and I would exchange it.

If you swap the chips positions from where they are now, does the computer still boot? It definitely sounds like a RAM issue, but it could be the beginnings of larger issues.

If you have the original discs that came with the computer, you should be able to boot a hardware test off one of them that could give you more information.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1509

If you don't have the discs, you can probably get them shipped from Apple or even take your computer to the store and have them run the test.

10/24/2009 11:50:08 AM

sumfoo1
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does the snow leopard dvd have the entire os on it or just an upgrade?

10/25/2009 11:47:39 AM

dannydigtl
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entire thing

10/25/2009 11:48:55 AM

sumfoo1
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and its only like 30 bucks ?? Cool

10/25/2009 11:55:25 AM

dannydigtl
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yep, you can do a full/clean install if you want.

10/25/2009 12:04:59 PM

Golovko
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So i was in the apple store the other day and the salesman was telling someone that they could buy the 'upgrade' snow leopard if they have leopard but if their machine has tiger they would have to buy the software pack that comes with iWork and iLife because they can't use the 'upgrade' edition. LOL?

10/25/2009 3:37:14 PM

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That's the official Apple policy per http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC223 But the number of intel machines sold with tiger is probably low enough that Apple didn't think it was worth putting in any sort of checks for this.

\/ Yeah, the disc is a full install, regardless of whether or not you actually have Tiger or Leopard. It doesn't check to make sure. To be honest though, most of the people who have an intel mac and still have tiger, likely still have the old ilife/iwork software and wouldn't mind buying the bundle anyway.

[Edited on October 25, 2009 at 5:12 PM. Reason : sdf]

10/25/2009 4:58:22 PM

Golovko
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its my understanding that its the exact same disc?

(although I guess I could see the problem being with the iLife software if its dated.

also the . breaks your link

[Edited on October 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM. Reason : ,]

10/25/2009 5:00:46 PM

sumfoo1
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i just want a legit license

10/25/2009 9:21:24 PM

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