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McWinger03
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i thought maybe he was talking about getting back with skyler

5/31/2010 8:51:15 PM

agentlion
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i'm pretty sure he meant Jesse, because
1) Gus doesn't really have much to do with Walt and Skylers relationship
2) Jesse being a drugged-out assistant will effect Gus much more. Remember back when they started working for Gus (when they met him for the first time at the restaraunt), his main concern was that Jesse was unreliable
3) most telling - Gus said "don't make the same mistake twice", and the next scene cut straight to Jesse getting out of his car

6/1/2010 12:45:52 AM

jcgolden
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inb4 Walter Jr. on Meth

6/4/2010 2:50:02 PM

Wyloch
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I

CANNOT

THINK

RIGHT


NOW

6/6/2010 11:01:07 PM

SchndlrsFist
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Holy Fucking Shit!

Walter stepped the fuck up!

Shits gettin good now.

Great episode.

6/6/2010 11:05:13 PM

dweedle
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that was infuckinsane

6/7/2010 12:09:43 AM

ncWOLFsu
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so was it worth the buildup? haha

6/7/2010 12:32:42 AM

aaronian
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walt's a badassss.

6/7/2010 11:05:08 AM

ThePeter
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^^yeah I about blew my load all over the apartment

6/7/2010 4:47:57 PM

Bweez
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lol wrong thread.

Yes, great episode in general.

[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 5:08 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2010 4:55:17 PM

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so did Walt take the advice...no more half measures...and do the ol' fliparoo? i'm interested to see how he explains this to Gus

6/8/2010 9:38:35 PM

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I was checking out wikipedia, and it looks like this upcoming sunday's episode was both written and directed by Vince Gilligan. First episode he's done both since the pilot. Should be extra awesome.

6/10/2010 1:51:37 AM

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eh, I'm not sure how much him directing this episode is actually going to make it better or worse than it otherwise would have been...he's only directed one other episode and I don't think the show has suffered because of it.

On a side note, AMC is airing the pilot of Rubicon (their new political thriller series) after the finale on Sunday, so set your DVRs accordingly. AMC's track record with original series so far has been impeccable so I'll definitely be checking it out.

6/10/2010 3:09:42 PM

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I feel the Pilot might be the best episode of the series and if that is the only one he wrote and directed than that will make this finale extra special.

6/10/2010 8:01:14 PM

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is this a series finale, or just season finale?

6/11/2010 8:17:45 AM

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http://blog.zap2it.com/korbitv/2010/03/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-on-walts-health-when-the-series-might-end.html

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"It's always good in a perfect world that folks who make a TV show know where it's going to end," he said, "and yet so often we don't. I'd say at least one more season, season 4. Maybe to season 5 for Walt and Jesse and the family. And my perfect wish would be that we would know at least a year in advance when we're going to end... like 'Lost' is doing. That way you can write to it... I think all TV shows should do it that way. That's a good way to do it.
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That's all I can find so I am going to assume it was picked up for a 4th season.

6/11/2010 10:52:16 AM

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"CAN'T

FUCKING

WAIT"

6/13/2010 9:22:01 PM

aimorris
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giddy up!

6/13/2010 10:00:02 PM

aimorris
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wow

what a great show

6/13/2010 10:57:54 PM

thumper
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fucking season fucking finale


jesus christ

i'm pissed

6/13/2010 11:03:13 PM

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"We've talked in the past about your idea that you see this as a four-season show. Given where we've come by the end of this season, do you still feel that way?

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All of this is to say, four seasons feels pretty good to me, and I have said that in several interviews, but I can't say it with absolute certainty. At the end of every season, we try to end with a big enough bang, in a fashion such that if the whole series ended right then and there, it'd be somewhat satisfying, or at least end with a big enough bang. So if for instance we didn't get a season four, it'd be a bummer of an ending, but it'd be a big ending nonetheless, and it could work as a series ender. Having said all of that, season four might be a good place to end it, possibly we could go to season five. Can't picture anything beyond season five. "


http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/interview-breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-post-mortems-season-three

6/13/2010 11:15:26 PM

petejames
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DAMN YOU TIME WARNER CABLE FOR CONVINCING ME I HAD ANOTHER 45 MINUTES.

Fucking amazing though, just when you thought Walt had turned into a bitch, he fucking broke bad again

6/13/2010 11:15:35 PM

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"At the end of every season, we try to end with a big enough bang, in a fashion such that if the whole series ended right then and there, it'd be somewhat satisfying, or at least end with a big enough bang."



lolololol

6/13/2010 11:56:52 PM

armorfrsleep
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what a bullshit, cop out cliffhanger ending...thoroughly unsatisfying.

[Edited on June 14, 2010 at 12:05 AM. Reason : .]

6/14/2010 12:01:06 AM

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OK, so I'm somewhat less pissed about the ending after reading this quote from Sepinwall's interview with Vince Gilligan:
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"But in honest answer to your question, I never really intended for there to be any ambiguity. But it's funny: in the editing room, my editor and some other people were saying that the way it counter-dollies around, it looks like he's changing his point of aim before he pulls the trigger. For what it's worth, I did not intend for it to feel that way. I've been hearing from the people who've already seen it that it looks like he's changing where he's aiming. That is not intentional. I did not see it that way when I was directing. It's not wrong for you to think he shot this guy. "

6/14/2010 12:24:56 AM

aimorris
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^ yeah, I'm glad I found that interview too, just to clear that up

I feel bad for Jesse though

6/14/2010 7:48:11 AM

SchndlrsFist
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Good episode, but that ending kinda made me

6/14/2010 10:27:28 AM

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it never really seemed to me as if jessie didn't shoot the guy. i supposed some people had that question in mind since it is a common what if cliff hanger used.

6/15/2010 6:09:48 PM

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i don't see how he couldn't have shot the guy. i think he shot him and saved walt's ass.

6/15/2010 6:45:23 PM

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This was one of the few times in the series I didn't believe Walt's character.... First he wasn't cool with killing drug dealers, and only did it to save jesse and NOW he's gonna kill Glen... WTF?!?!?

But to echo everyone else... Solid Episode!

6/16/2010 3:09:16 AM

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^Didn't believe his character?

Do you think he is suicidal?

He needed a plan to stay alive, and this seems to be a viable one.

It's him or Gale.



And people that don't think he shot him are pretty silly. and that dolly move at the end was great.

[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 4:50 AM. Reason : ..]

6/16/2010 4:49:22 AM

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^Please... there are 843 OTHER things he could do rather than KILL GALE. I understand that Killing Gale adds to the plot... I'm just saying I didn't believe it when he planned it.

6/16/2010 5:03:05 AM

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He murdered jesse's girlfriend. and those slinger bros.

how is murdering someone else out of character.

It seems to be a surefire way to not have to run away from his life.

It has always been about family.

[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 5:22 AM. Reason : .]

6/16/2010 5:21:47 AM

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Yeah, Walt's character started pure, but once he got deeper into the business he turned and became a menacing threat to anyone who stood in his way of providing for his family. I think its awesome. The change definitely is shown by how he changed his hair and grew the goatee. You may be able to argue that Jesse changed too, from wearing less and less druggie clothes and not wearing the beanie as much.

^^So what could he have done to save his own life than kill Gale and continue making $blue sky? I can't really think of any at this moment that wouldn't involve killing the Boss, maybe killing the hit man, or something crawy like joining up with the Mexican cartel. And going to the cops doesn't count, he said he didn't want to go that route

6/16/2010 7:20:44 AM

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"This was one of the few times in the series I didn't believe Walt's character.... First he wasn't cool with killing drug dealers, and only did it to save jesse and NOW he's gonna kill Glen... WTF?!?!?"


at the beginning, all he knew was the chemistry and that he wanted money. As he gets deeper and deeper into the drug world, he's having to do a lot of things that he probably couldn't see himself doing from the start. He's smart enough to know he had no other choice

[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 7:47 AM. Reason : lol didn't read the post above mine before posting]

6/16/2010 7:47:15 AM

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"He murdered jesse's girlfriend. and those slinger bros."


Did you even watch that episode!?!? Jesse's GF ODed on H. Yea Walt didn't try to wake her up... but that's hardly murder. I'm saying that Walt had SOOOOO much trouble with Jesse killing two drug dealers who were using kids.... and then suddenly runs over two guys with a car and then "we have to kill Gale" I agree it makes logical sense for him to do it, and that it's a way to survive. But it's a HUGE leap in ethics that was made over a VERY short period of time.


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"o what could he have done to save his own life than kill Gale and continue making $blue sky? I can't really think of any at this moment that wouldn't involve killing the Boss, maybe killing the hit man, or something [crazy] like joining up with the Mexican cartel."


Well running anywhere is my first idea, and I'm not sure that joining up with the Cartel is any more crazy than killing Gale (Now lets all enumerate the all plot lines that could happen that end in Walt getting killed or why those idea's wouldn't work.. yea yea, I get it. If only there were a room of people to make up ideas so that Walt could survive.) Clearly killing Gale adds to the plot, and does a lot of things for the future, like keeping Saul, and the Fam in the picture without having to do a lot of explaining. I'm saying I find that particular ethical leap a little far.

6/21/2010 1:59:45 AM

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^When did you start watching the show?

Walt killed a dude and chemically destroyed his body in the second episode of the whole show.

Gale's obviously the nicest dude they've killed so far, but it's no "leap" for them.

6/21/2010 2:14:25 AM

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Its just an evolution of Walt's character in my opinion. Walt has killed before, but he's only killed 'bad' people. Know he's acclimated to the feeling and found it necessary to eliminate Gale one way or another to protect himself, his family, and Jesse (kinda?). Its a little bit of a struggle for him, but he knows it has to be done.

Agreed, its a big jump, but not that huge.

6/21/2010 7:57:48 AM

aaronian
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breaking bad

.... the point of the show.

6/21/2010 12:14:20 PM

ThePeter
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hah

6/21/2010 1:19:35 PM

Bweez
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"Did you even watch that episode!?!? Jesse's GF ODed on H. Yea Walt didn't try to wake her up... but that's hardly murder."


iirc, she only ended up sleeping on her back rather than side because of Walt.

Essentially murder

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" and the Fam in the picture without having to do a lot of explaining. I'm saying I find that particular ethical leap a little far."


"keeping the Fam in the picture" isn't some cheap plot thing that you're making it out to be, it's everything to Walt.

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2010 4:09:34 PM

dweedle
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LOL



hey i witnessed a deadly car crash but kept driving, murder i tell ya

6/21/2010 4:11:17 PM

aimorris
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I thought he was the one responsible for actually rolling her on her back

not technically murder, but Jesse would definitely see it as such if (when) he finds out

6/21/2010 4:13:35 PM

armorfrsleep
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wow, this wizzkidd is a real tard.

6/21/2010 4:17:56 PM

dweedle
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oh, well maybe i'm mistaken ... i thought he just stood there

6/21/2010 4:18:22 PM

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^^^That's what I said.

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"hey i witnessed a deadly car crash"


You could say Walt did that too, aha.

NOT MURDER.

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 4:27 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2010 4:25:06 PM

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Walt witnessed her begin to vomit and choke. He could've saved her, but chose instead to let her die and get out of his way. I can't find it on youtube, but this is as close as I can get. Its pretty weak to not call him a murder because he held someone's life in his hands and chose to let them die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbbsjC_IZY&feature=related

6/21/2010 4:46:42 PM

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"oh, well maybe i'm mistaken ... i thought he just stood there
"


He did just stand there. He could have rolled her onto her side and she'd have been fine. But he didn't, so he stood by and allowed her to die. Not murder per se, not really something he caused, but he definitely could have stopped it.

6/21/2010 4:51:20 PM

Bweez
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If he does indeed roll her over, that vid doesn't show it, and she wouldn't have choked on vomit if he didn't roll her over, and he would have directly caused it. Which I think I remember him doing.

The point of that whole shit was that Walt caused the plane crash by causing her death.

God what a retarded argument we are having.

He killed her. He could have saved her. He has killed what, 3 or 4 other people as well.

Killing Gale is not a stretch for him, in terms of writing. The end.



[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2010 4:52:03 PM

dweedle
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yall can equate "not saving" to "killing" in those terms if you want, but i shall not

however i think everyone agrees on the scope of his actions

6/21/2010 4:54:45 PM

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