McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
i thought maybe he was talking about getting back with skyler 5/31/2010 8:51:15 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure he meant Jesse, because 1) Gus doesn't really have much to do with Walt and Skylers relationship 2) Jesse being a drugged-out assistant will effect Gus much more. Remember back when they started working for Gus (when they met him for the first time at the restaraunt), his main concern was that Jesse was unreliable 3) most telling - Gus said "don't make the same mistake twice", and the next scene cut straight to Jesse getting out of his car 6/1/2010 12:45:52 AM |
jcgolden Suspended 1394 Posts user info edit post |
inb4 Walter Jr. on Meth 6/4/2010 2:50:02 PM |
Wyloch All American 4244 Posts user info edit post |
I
CANNOT
THINK
RIGHT
NOW 6/6/2010 11:01:07 PM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
Holy Fucking Shit!
Walter stepped the fuck up!
Shits gettin good now.
Great episode. 6/6/2010 11:05:13 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
that was infuckinsane 6/7/2010 12:09:43 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
so was it worth the buildup? haha 6/7/2010 12:32:42 AM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
walt's a badassss. 6/7/2010 11:05:08 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah I about blew my load all over the apartment 6/7/2010 4:47:57 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
lol wrong thread.
Yes, great episode in general.
[Edited on June 7, 2010 at 5:08 PM. Reason : .] 6/7/2010 4:55:17 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
so did Walt take the advice...no more half measures...and do the ol' fliparoo? i'm interested to see how he explains this to Gus 6/8/2010 9:38:35 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
I was checking out wikipedia, and it looks like this upcoming sunday's episode was both written and directed by Vince Gilligan. First episode he's done both since the pilot. Should be extra awesome.] 6/10/2010 1:51:37 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
eh, I'm not sure how much him directing this episode is actually going to make it better or worse than it otherwise would have been...he's only directed one other episode and I don't think the show has suffered because of it.
On a side note, AMC is airing the pilot of Rubicon (their new political thriller series) after the finale on Sunday, so set your DVRs accordingly. AMC's track record with original series so far has been impeccable so I'll definitely be checking it out. 6/10/2010 3:09:42 PM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
I feel the Pilot might be the best episode of the series and if that is the only one he wrote and directed than that will make this finale extra special. 6/10/2010 8:01:14 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
is this a series finale, or just season finale? 6/11/2010 8:17:45 AM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
http://blog.zap2it.com/korbitv/2010/03/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-on-walts-health-when-the-series-might-end.html
Quote : | "It's always good in a perfect world that folks who make a TV show know where it's going to end," he said, "and yet so often we don't. I'd say at least one more season, season 4. Maybe to season 5 for Walt and Jesse and the family. And my perfect wish would be that we would know at least a year in advance when we're going to end... like 'Lost' is doing. That way you can write to it... I think all TV shows should do it that way. That's a good way to do it. " |
That's all I can find so I am going to assume it was picked up for a 4th season.6/11/2010 10:52:16 AM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "CAN'T
FUCKING
WAIT" |
6/13/2010 9:22:01 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
giddy up! 6/13/2010 10:00:02 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
wow
what a great show 6/13/2010 10:57:54 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
fucking season fucking finale
jesus christ
i'm pissed 6/13/2010 11:03:13 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We've talked in the past about your idea that you see this as a four-season show. Given where we've come by the end of this season, do you still feel that way?
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All of this is to say, four seasons feels pretty good to me, and I have said that in several interviews, but I can't say it with absolute certainty. At the end of every season, we try to end with a big enough bang, in a fashion such that if the whole series ended right then and there, it'd be somewhat satisfying, or at least end with a big enough bang. So if for instance we didn't get a season four, it'd be a bummer of an ending, but it'd be a big ending nonetheless, and it could work as a series ender. Having said all of that, season four might be a good place to end it, possibly we could go to season five. Can't picture anything beyond season five. " |
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/interview-breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-post-mortems-season-three6/13/2010 11:15:26 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
DAMN YOU TIME WARNER CABLE FOR CONVINCING ME I HAD ANOTHER 45 MINUTES.
Fucking amazing though, just when you thought Walt had turned into a bitch, he fucking broke bad again 6/13/2010 11:15:35 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "At the end of every season, we try to end with a big enough bang, in a fashion such that if the whole series ended right then and there, it'd be somewhat satisfying, or at least end with a big enough bang." |
lolololol6/13/2010 11:56:52 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
what a bullshit, cop out cliffhanger ending...thoroughly unsatisfying.
[Edited on June 14, 2010 at 12:05 AM. Reason : .] 6/14/2010 12:01:06 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
OK, so I'm somewhat less pissed about the ending after reading this quote from Sepinwall's interview with Vince Gilligan:
Quote : | "But in honest answer to your question, I never really intended for there to be any ambiguity. But it's funny: in the editing room, my editor and some other people were saying that the way it counter-dollies around, it looks like he's changing his point of aim before he pulls the trigger. For what it's worth, I did not intend for it to feel that way. I've been hearing from the people who've already seen it that it looks like he's changing where he's aiming. That is not intentional. I did not see it that way when I was directing. It's not wrong for you to think he shot this guy. " |
6/14/2010 12:24:56 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah, I'm glad I found that interview too, just to clear that up
I feel bad for Jesse though 6/14/2010 7:48:11 AM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
Good episode, but that ending kinda made me 6/14/2010 10:27:28 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
it never really seemed to me as if jessie didn't shoot the guy. i supposed some people had that question in mind since it is a common what if cliff hanger used. 6/15/2010 6:09:48 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
i don't see how he couldn't have shot the guy. i think he shot him and saved walt's ass. 6/15/2010 6:45:23 PM |
wizzkidd All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
This was one of the few times in the series I didn't believe Walt's character.... First he wasn't cool with killing drug dealers, and only did it to save jesse and NOW he's gonna kill Glen... WTF?!?!?
But to echo everyone else... Solid Episode! 6/16/2010 3:09:16 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
^Didn't believe his character?
Do you think he is suicidal?
He needed a plan to stay alive, and this seems to be a viable one.
It's him or Gale.
And people that don't think he shot him are pretty silly. and that dolly move at the end was great.
[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 4:50 AM. Reason : ..] 6/16/2010 4:49:22 AM |
wizzkidd All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
^Please... there are 843 OTHER things he could do rather than KILL GALE. I understand that Killing Gale adds to the plot... I'm just saying I didn't believe it when he planned it. 6/16/2010 5:03:05 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
He murdered jesse's girlfriend. and those slinger bros.
how is murdering someone else out of character.
It seems to be a surefire way to not have to run away from his life.
It has always been about family.
[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 5:22 AM. Reason : .] 6/16/2010 5:21:47 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, Walt's character started pure, but once he got deeper into the business he turned and became a menacing threat to anyone who stood in his way of providing for his family. I think its awesome. The change definitely is shown by how he changed his hair and grew the goatee. You may be able to argue that Jesse changed too, from wearing less and less druggie clothes and not wearing the beanie as much.
^^So what could he have done to save his own life than kill Gale and continue making $blue sky? I can't really think of any at this moment that wouldn't involve killing the Boss, maybe killing the hit man, or something crawy like joining up with the Mexican cartel. And going to the cops doesn't count, he said he didn't want to go that route 6/16/2010 7:20:44 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This was one of the few times in the series I didn't believe Walt's character.... First he wasn't cool with killing drug dealers, and only did it to save jesse and NOW he's gonna kill Glen... WTF?!?!?" |
at the beginning, all he knew was the chemistry and that he wanted money. As he gets deeper and deeper into the drug world, he's having to do a lot of things that he probably couldn't see himself doing from the start. He's smart enough to know he had no other choice
[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 7:47 AM. Reason : lol didn't read the post above mine before posting]6/16/2010 7:47:15 AM |
wizzkidd All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He murdered jesse's girlfriend. and those slinger bros." |
Did you even watch that episode!?!? Jesse's GF ODed on H. Yea Walt didn't try to wake her up... but that's hardly murder. I'm saying that Walt had SOOOOO much trouble with Jesse killing two drug dealers who were using kids.... and then suddenly runs over two guys with a car and then "we have to kill Gale" I agree it makes logical sense for him to do it, and that it's a way to survive. But it's a HUGE leap in ethics that was made over a VERY short period of time.
Quote : | "o what could he have done to save his own life than kill Gale and continue making $blue sky? I can't really think of any at this moment that wouldn't involve killing the Boss, maybe killing the hit man, or something [crazy] like joining up with the Mexican cartel." |
Well running anywhere is my first idea, and I'm not sure that joining up with the Cartel is any more crazy than killing Gale (Now lets all enumerate the all plot lines that could happen that end in Walt getting killed or why those idea's wouldn't work.. yea yea, I get it. If only there were a room of people to make up ideas so that Walt could survive.) Clearly killing Gale adds to the plot, and does a lot of things for the future, like keeping Saul, and the Fam in the picture without having to do a lot of explaining. I'm saying I find that particular ethical leap a little far.6/21/2010 1:59:45 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^When did you start watching the show?
Walt killed a dude and chemically destroyed his body in the second episode of the whole show.
Gale's obviously the nicest dude they've killed so far, but it's no "leap" for them. 6/21/2010 2:14:25 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Its just an evolution of Walt's character in my opinion. Walt has killed before, but he's only killed 'bad' people. Know he's acclimated to the feeling and found it necessary to eliminate Gale one way or another to protect himself, his family, and Jesse (kinda?). Its a little bit of a struggle for him, but he knows it has to be done.
Agreed, its a big jump, but not that huge. 6/21/2010 7:57:48 AM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
breaking bad
.... the point of the show. 6/21/2010 12:14:20 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
hah 6/21/2010 1:19:35 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Did you even watch that episode!?!? Jesse's GF ODed on H. Yea Walt didn't try to wake her up... but that's hardly murder." |
iirc, she only ended up sleeping on her back rather than side because of Walt.
Essentially murder
Quote : | " and the Fam in the picture without having to do a lot of explaining. I'm saying I find that particular ethical leap a little far." |
"keeping the Fam in the picture" isn't some cheap plot thing that you're making it out to be, it's everything to Walt.
[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM. Reason : .]6/21/2010 4:09:34 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
LOL
hey i witnessed a deadly car crash but kept driving, murder i tell ya 6/21/2010 4:11:17 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I thought he was the one responsible for actually rolling her on her back
not technically murder, but Jesse would definitely see it as such if (when) he finds out 6/21/2010 4:13:35 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
wow, this wizzkidd is a real tard. 6/21/2010 4:17:56 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
oh, well maybe i'm mistaken ... i thought he just stood there 6/21/2010 4:18:22 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
^^^That's what I said.
Quote : | "hey i witnessed a deadly car crash" |
You could say Walt did that too, aha.
NOT MURDER.
[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 4:27 PM. Reason : .]6/21/2010 4:25:06 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Walt witnessed her begin to vomit and choke. He could've saved her, but chose instead to let her die and get out of his way. I can't find it on youtube, but this is as close as I can get. Its pretty weak to not call him a murder because he held someone's life in his hands and chose to let them die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbbsjC_IZY&feature=related 6/21/2010 4:46:42 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "oh, well maybe i'm mistaken ... i thought he just stood there " |
He did just stand there. He could have rolled her onto her side and she'd have been fine. But he didn't, so he stood by and allowed her to die. Not murder per se, not really something he caused, but he definitely could have stopped it.6/21/2010 4:51:20 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
If he does indeed roll her over, that vid doesn't show it, and she wouldn't have choked on vomit if he didn't roll her over, and he would have directly caused it. Which I think I remember him doing.
The point of that whole shit was that Walt caused the plane crash by causing her death.
God what a retarded argument we are having.
He killed her. He could have saved her. He has killed what, 3 or 4 other people as well.
Killing Gale is not a stretch for him, in terms of writing. The end.
[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .] 6/21/2010 4:52:03 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
yall can equate "not saving" to "killing" in those terms if you want, but i shall not
however i think everyone agrees on the scope of his actions 6/21/2010 4:54:45 PM |