I'll hand the coin change back and get the "it's all yours man" head nod or wave. To which I either reply..."really?? thanks a lot man" in a sarcastic tone or I say..."no man...you keep it...really."

Two things happen. The cheap fuck tips more next time or I don't have to worry about wasting my time serving somebody who tips shitty. Either way, I don't lose.

5/4/2010 4:44:28 PM

People do this with small lunch bills all the time

They think the 15-20 percent for larger bills translates to bills of 5 or 6 dollars

Like leaving a $1.20 tip on you club sandwich doesn't make you look like a prick

5/4/2010 4:47:54 PM

^ I always felt guilty when only leaving $1 on my $4-5 tab at El Rodeo....

Then I realized it eventually makes a difference when I give them a $2-3 tip in my back account

5/4/2010 4:49:24 PM

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"If you spend 3 hours drinking ten $1.50 beers and ordering half-price food, no, $3 on $20 is definitely not a good tip."

Oh god.. now I know he's talking about me

5/4/2010 4:54:42 PM

I dont care if the bill is $5.00. 20% is the most anyone should tip ever. Take my dollar and be happy or find another job. Also when i order water with lemon don't act pissed because i did not order a goddamn sweat tea or a coke that costs 2.50.
On a different note tipping should be done on total bill before the taxes. Why should i spend more money on your tip because some fucks raise the sales tax.

5/4/2010 4:56:47 PM

^ How is the sales tax relevant here? By that argument, you might as well just say that all sandwiches in any restaurant should cost $5 and you'll only tip on that $5 burger value, even though the burger cost $15.

5/4/2010 5:02:20 PM

When sad-sack fucks would tip me less than a dollar, I would almost universally throw out this line:

"You go ahead and keep it....seems like you might need it more than I do..."

5/4/2010 5:11:01 PM

^ because forever tipping was meant to be total before tax(hell even in the 80's it was before tax and beverage)

now everyone feels entitled to something extra and they think you should be tipped on tax as well.

5/4/2010 5:13:59 PM

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"Two things happen. The cheap fuck tips more next time or I don't have to worry about wasting my time serving somebody who tips shitty. Either way, I don't lose."

You sound like a fucking ingrate. "OMG, I DIDN'T GET A 5 DOLLAR TIP ON A 5 DOLLAR BILL! WHAT A FUCKING CHEAPSKATE!"

I don't know where you work, and I don't care about where you work. You sound like an ungrateful fuck. Treating your customers in such a way as you said you would because they didn't tip up to YOUR standards is a dick headed move on YOUR part, and I hope you get your ass canned because of it.

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"Like leaving a $1.20 tip on you club sandwich doesn't make you look like a prick"

IMO, it doesn't make you look like a cheap prick if you leave 1.20 on a 5-6 dollar club sandwich. All the fucking waiter did in that case was throw some chips on a plate, maybe a pickle on the side, and bring you the sandwich. Hell, they might have even refilled your water. GASP!

If these waiters want to get paid more on a tip, then perhaps they should consider working at a place that charges more for food, where you're more likely to get a richer clientèle.

When I go out to eat, I'm not fucking UNICEF. I will tip you accordingly. But it's not MY job to make sure you can pay the rent on time. Not all of us go out with the intent of funding another college student's tuition.

5/4/2010 5:29:02 PM

5/4/2010 5:30:09 PM

jbrick got fucking told

5/4/2010 5:31:12 PM

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"GODDAMN SWEAT TEA"

if you can't afford to tip at least 20%, don't sit in my section. if you do anyway, don't expect good service

5/4/2010 5:36:51 PM

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"if you can't afford to tip at least 20%, don't sit in my section. if you do anyway, don't expect good service"

goddamn you sound like a shitty server

regardless I usually tip 25-30% for normal service, and sometimes more for fucking awesome service.

5/4/2010 5:46:20 PM

*slow clap*

for merbig

5/4/2010 5:47:43 PM

thanks

what i meant to convey was: if you don't tip well, you shouldn't expect good service. I tried to give my best service to every table, even when I was pretty sure I wouldn't get more than 10%. That's why I don't wait tables anymore

and for the record I usually tip at least 25% for good service, and more for a great/awesome job.

5/4/2010 5:49:53 PM

ITT everyone is an asshole.

V asshole

5/4/2010 6:08:30 PM

^ asshole

5/4/2010 6:09:09 PM

I never tip anyone, fuck that

5/4/2010 6:11:12 PM

why does this thread keep coming back

let it die people

we're all asshole entitled cheapskate fucks that need new jobs and shouldn't go out to eat

5/4/2010 6:33:01 PM

Bad tippers suck. I waited tables for 3 years and my goodness the people I've encountered... :facepalm:

They should require high schools to have lessons on proper tipping.

5/4/2010 6:35:16 PM

hey maaannn, what you doing tonight?

5/4/2010 6:35:26 PM

damn nobody took my troll bait

I tipped $15 on a $68 meal tonight, fyi

5/4/2010 10:05:30 PM

bttt

8/23/2010 9:37:11 AM

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/8173902/

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"Apex woman reports racial slur on pizza receipt Apex, N.C. — An Apex woman who reported finding a racial slur printed on a pizza delivery receipt says she is getting harassing phone calls. Carla Robinson ordered two pizzas Friday from Domino's Pizza near Ten Ten Road. She said when the pizza delivery driver left, her 10-year-old niece brought the receipt to her attention. Robinson said the "N" word followed by "DON'T TIP" was printed on the receipt. She reported the incident and says she has since received more than a dozen harassing calls. “They were saying basically the same stuff that was on the receipt. They were saying 'N-this, you got me fired, you did this, you did that,' just being real ugly to me, just being real mean,” Robinson said. “I’m thinking it is 2010, it's never good to do that. You can't do stuff like that anymore."

Uh oh!
Somebody better alert William Barber, lol.

8/23/2010 9:42:15 AM

8/23/2010 9:42:27 AM

Well did she not tip?

Seems like this is mainly her doing

8/23/2010 9:45:23 AM

i'm glad this thread got bumped.

are we supposed to tip on a $9 beer at a concert?

8/23/2010 9:53:18 AM

All depends on whether or not I regularly go to a place.

If I'm travelling, I'm probably low on cash and not worried about what the staff thinks of me because I'll never return. I leave 15%, because I'm not a fucking barbarian like the non-tipping bastards.

If it's a place around Raleigh that I go to regularly, I leave 20-25% (often more if it's a bar). Normally this pays off. If it doesn't, the service is probably shitty and I probably won't be a regular long.

8/23/2010 9:54:37 AM

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"I round to the nearest full dollar amount between 15 and 20 percent. And have never once felt bad about it when it was closer to 15."

That's what I do unless the service is remarkably good or bad. I'll leave 25% if they really do well, and I've left a penny for utterly dismal service.

8/23/2010 10:18:39 AM

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"are we supposed to tip on a $9 beer at a concert?"

I'd just give them a 10 and not feel bad about it.

[Edited on August 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM. Reason : quote]

8/23/2010 10:19:33 AM

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"are we supposed to tip on a $9 beer at a concert?"

Why not just give them a $10 bill anyways?? It's quicker, just give them a $10 bill, grab your beer, and turn around and leave. Don't be cheap prick and sit there and wait for the $1 bill.

8/23/2010 10:21:23 AM

maybe it's the principle of paying $10 for a Coors Light

$9 makes me feel like i'm not getting ripped off quite as bad

8/23/2010 10:28:44 AM

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"I'd just give them a 10 and not feel bad about it."

I wouldn't. Fuck that.



If you're going to extort me, the last thing I'm going to do is tip you.

8/23/2010 10:31:05 AM

God, now I know how old people feel.

You fuckers regularly tipping 20-25 percent are ridiculous. That's how much you tip for outstanding service or like a lady-be-pregnant-and-it's-Christmasttime tip. But, nooooo, y'all are just out and about throwing your money away and raising the tipping standard yet again.

And can you believe the balls on these "servers?" Rolling their eyes if you get a water or split an entree. I think this a sign of the times...we've all noted how much brattier each generation is compared to the previous one. And it was bound to happen eventually, I guess...we're being served by brats.

^According to jbrick, that makes you a "cheap prick."

[Edited on August 23, 2010 at 10:32 AM. Reason : Fucking ridiculous.]

8/23/2010 10:32:02 AM

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"If you're going to extort me, the last thing I'm going to do is tip you."

Odds are the guy who hands you the beer didn't set the price. Hell, the people to blame are the ones who run the venue, because they charge high prices to vendors who then can't survive without charging you obscenely.

8/23/2010 10:43:38 AM

^^No, you're just cheap. If you can't afford to go out and tip, then just eat at home.

^^^What's the difference in a dollar?? $9 or $10 is just ridiculous for a Coors Light anyways...just get drunk before you get there, that way you only have to buy a beer or two. Bartenders and/or beer cart girls at games and concerts still get paid by tips...not by salary (maybe the beer tub girls are different, but I doubt it). You not tipping them is essentially saying that you don't care whether or not you drink at the event. Luckily there are non-cheap people at the concert/game that tip that make it so these employees keep coming back to work to serve cheap people like yourself.


[Edited on August 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM. Reason : .]

8/23/2010 10:45:06 AM

Tipping does create some unrealistic expectations and entitlement and screws up the workforce!


In 2001, I was new in the US at N C state. I went to this orientation conducted by somebody in Talley Student Center about dos and don’ts. We (all the foreigners in the class ) were told to tip 10% for reasonable service with a minimum of 1$.

8/23/2010 10:45:25 AM

Listen, just because a very small percentage of you are trying to pay your way through college doesn't mean that i should just throw away my hard earned money. A majority of you are college drop outs(or peope with worthless degrees) / druggies/ alcoholics who could not find any other job that actually required a skill set. And I don't feel bad at all when I leave a 15% tip because really... how fucking hard is it to re-fill a soda or bring out some fucking dishes. You act like its your god given right to my hard earned money ( the skill set that it took me to acquire through hard work and sleepless nights studying ).

I do sympathize with those trying to get a worthwhile degree and pay their way through college with these kinds of jobs, but there are other options out there.

8/23/2010 10:50:19 AM

^^I suppose it can. But when I worked a shitty retail job with no tipping I felt no motivation to go above and beyond. No matter what I did my income would be the same, and promotions didn't exist. When I worked a shitty bartending job I felt the motivation to do more because I knew it would directly influence my income.

Incentives work my friend. And while I tried to do a good job for everybody, you better believe good tippers got priority. I can't imagine why you'd expect a rational person to do otherwise.

^Well, I'm of the school that you needn't feel bad for tipping 15% (though unless the service is bad, you should for anything less). But part of that is selfish -- if you never tip above 15% at my favorite places and I always do, I'm going to reap benefits.

[Edited on August 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM. Reason : ]

8/23/2010 10:55:24 AM

But these people are acting like 15% is beneath them. They think they're entitled to make more than a college educated person does per hour.

8/23/2010 10:58:13 AM

20 percent is standard and has been for some time

Same reason restruantants automatically tack on 18-20 percent for large parties

8/23/2010 10:59:29 AM

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"You not tipping them is essentially saying that you don't care whether or not you drink at the event. Luckily there are non-cheap people at the concert/game that tip that make it so these employees keep coming back to work to serve cheap people like yourself."

Pretty much this is what it is. I'm not going to buy a $9 beer. Not spending $10 on a fucking $2 beer isn't "being cheap," it's "being smart." Fuck that. And if that means that the people who are working the event miss out on my $1, too bad. And given your fucked-up logic ITT, you probably think I should be dropping $3 in their tip jar for a $9 beer. Not bloody likely.

If they're working the event, they're getting paid a regular hourly wage, not a shitty $2.15 one.

[Edited on August 23, 2010 at 11:02 AM. Reason : on top of that, no one tips concession workers. ever. what fucking planet do you live on.]

8/23/2010 11:00:50 AM

I always tip well (15-20ish percent) unless the service was below standard.

I always find it funny when women try to do a bunch of arithmetic to hit the 10 or 15 or whatever they're giving on the dot. What are you gonna lose, a buck this way or that? What's it to you?

8/23/2010 11:01:20 AM

Grumpy, in the practical world I agree incentives work to a great extent in the short run.

I think what is being disagreed upon here is if the magnitude of incentives being demanded are in proportion to the skill and effort required to do the job or not? It does not take too long for an incentive to become a routine entitlement.

[Edited on August 23, 2010 at 11:03 AM. Reason : asdf]

8/23/2010 11:01:28 AM

They can demand all they want, they don't have to deliver. If you give shitty service to everyone who tips less than your ridiculous demands, you will either make much less in terms of tips or you'll get fired. If they wanna bitch on the wolfweb, let 'em.

8/23/2010 11:03:29 AM

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"Listen, just because a very small percentage of you are trying to pay your way through college doesn't mean that i should just throw away my hard earned money."

I'm sure your money is earned a lot harder than a server/bartender...

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"A majority of you are college drop outs(or peope with worthless degrees) / druggies/ alcoholics who could not find any other job that actually required a skill set."

I helped open up a bar last year where I tossed out several resumes that had engineering and law school degrees listed. There are plenty of drop outs in the service industry. But the majority of people I've worked with have college degrees, and good ones at that.

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"And I don't feel bad at all when I leave a 15% tip because really... how fucking hard is it to re-fill a soda or bring out some fucking dishes."

It only makes it difficult when service employees realized they are serving idiots like yourself who think that is all there is to serving. But don't worry, more appreciative, rational people make up for your less-than-adequate tipping.

8/23/2010 11:05:18 AM

I think we can all agree on one thing in this thread.

jbrick83 is a cunt.

8/23/2010 11:08:23 AM

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"jbrick83: ^^No, you're just cheap. If you can't afford to go out and tip, then just eat at home."

No, you're a brat.

8/23/2010 11:10:25 AM

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"And given your fucked-up logic ITT, you probably think I should be dropping $3 in their tip jar for a $9 beer. Not bloody likely."

I actually said just tip the $1, so I don't know where you're getting that.

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"If they're working the event, they're getting paid a regular hourly wage, not a shitty $2.15 one."

Depends on what or where the event is. I have friends that bartend at music venues that get paid like regular service people. If they are employees at the music venues, then they are getting paid $2/3 an hour. So yes, their salary is tip money.

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"on top of that, no one tips concession workers. ever. what fucking planet do you live on"

Where did I say you should tip concession workers?? And a girl working a beer cart is different then a concession worker. A concession worker is giving you hot dogs and a coke. A beer cart girl (or guy...not trying to be sexist) is working a cash cart and only giving you beer. You tip those people, you don't tip concession people (unless you really want to).

8/23/2010 11:11:27 AM

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"No, you're a brat."

I'm fine with that. Although brats don't usually average 30-35% tips behind the bar. I would still serve you well if you came to my bar, but at the same time I'll call you out for being cheap on t-dub.

8/23/2010 11:13:23 AM