ha

what semantic games?

Do you know what the word "semantic" means?

5/7/2010 3:16:03 AM

Lol at TreeTwista clowning himself in this thread.

5/7/2010 3:20:01 AM

^hey look, a liberal american citizen who sides with mexicans over americans, what a shocker...i really cant believe a far left liberal would support mexicans celebrating at school and distracting education like that as opposed to supporting the 1st amendment...boy you sure are giving liberals a bad name! how dare Dominic Maciel like the country he lives in more than the shitty country his father was from! Stupid cunt kid protesting America! must be a dumb Christian redneck! oh wait, he's Mexican? THIS BLOWS MY MIND

^^no of course, no idea

nothing to do with you starting this whole lame shit by claiming a flag on a shirt is a "flag"

cause obviously, a US flag on a shirt should not be worn at school, at least on May 5th, because kids of the people who moved here because they hated Mexico and how shitty it was should ALL celebrate Mexico, even if kids of Mexican descent want to wear shirts with American flags like one of the kids who was kicked out of school for the day yesterday

You have to love political correctness when a Mexican-American gets sent home for the day for supporting America instead of Mexico...and you have to love the liberals for advocating it and supporting it

moron just stick to giving harsh opinions of what dumb white redneck kids should do...don't try and comment on what mexican kids should do on cinco de mayo

[Edited on May 7, 2010 at 3:28 AM. Reason : .]

5/7/2010 3:22:20 AM

trolllol

5/7/2010 3:27:31 AM

pussysysysysylolol

i bet you shit your pants when the phillies fan got tased too didnt you

ITT, carzak and moron know more about Mexican race relations on Cinco de Mayo than Dominic Maciel, a student of Mexican heritage at Live Oak High School

5/7/2010 3:28:33 AM

first off, I believe the kids aren't 100% innocent in this; I say that because if my high school principle told me that I couldn't wear my shirt/hat because it had an american flag, I would have quickly told him to fuck off. I have a long family history of military service, so my family would have backed me up on that.

secondly, school administration officials who did this are completely retarded.

5/7/2010 7:44:11 AM

ITT TreeTwista proves it is possible to be even more retarded than both the students and the administration combined.

5/7/2010 7:57:15 AM

Here's what this thread boils down to:

Basically everyone agrees the kids were acting like douchenozzles on purpose on a prominent Mexican holiday by dressing head to toe in American flag gear.

Basically everyone agrees that, although they were acting like douchenozzles, they shouldn't have been asked to remove their flag apparel.

Where it all went wrong was when TT refused to acknowledge that he was wrong regarding US Flag Code. Unfortunately, from there the thread descended into a shit storm of blatant trolling and deliberate intellectual dishonesty.

5/7/2010 8:03:07 AM

Quote :

"Basically everyone agrees the kids were acting like douchenozzles on purpose on a prominent Mexican holiday by dressing head to toe in American flag gear"

I would not describe Cinco De Mayo as a prominent Mexican Holiday unless St. Patrick's day is a prominent Irish holiday.

5/7/2010 8:14:52 AM

Prominence doesn't speak to its importance or lack thereof. Whether it's a very important Mexican holiday or not is irrelevent. It has become prominent in the united states as a Mexican holiday.

Quote :

"prom·i·nent [prom-uh-nuh?nt] -adjective 1. standing out so as to be seen easily; conspicuous; particularly noticeable"

5/7/2010 8:41:22 AM

Quote :

"A flag on a shirt is a flag? My bad, I thought it was a shirt with a flag on it. I guess a shirt with a gun on it is a gun I guess a shirt with a car on it requires you to pay property tax I guess a shirt with a college's logo on it is a college Thanks for appealing to common sense, I'm much more likely to believe what you say because of that. 5/7/2010 2:51:29 AM "

haha treetwista doesn't know what a sign is.

[Edited on May 7, 2010 at 9:16 AM. Reason : .]

5/7/2010 9:14:33 AM

^^The only reason its prominant in the US is to drum up business for bars and Mexican restaurants. That's about it. Otherwise nobody gives a shit.

Furthermore, its hilarious that people celebrate Cinco De Mayo as a day to be proud of their Mexican heritage. It celebrates the Mexican army beating the French army in the town of Puebla. Why were the French at war with the Mexicans? B/c the Mexicans owed the French a lot of money and decided not to pay them back.

Although, given how crappy a country Mexico is, celebrating something like that seems perfectly in line.

[Edited on May 7, 2010 at 9:19 AM. Reason : it doesn't even have to be said that nobody in Mexico gives a shit about this "holiday" anyway]

5/7/2010 9:18:38 AM

^^^ noted...on technicality alone. However, referring to Cinco de Mayo as a "prominent Mexican holiday" is misleading.

Quote :

"For the record, I'm opposed to any high school dress codes which censor based upon content (i.e. the image or words printed on the shirt)... So long as the students aren't wearing something physically disruptive (excessively little clothing, excessively large or hanging clothing, that sort of thing), they should be allowed to wear whatever they want."

Agreed!

[Edited on May 7, 2010 at 9:19 AM. Reason : ]

5/7/2010 9:18:41 AM

Quote :

"^^The only reason its prominant in the US is to drum up business for bars and Mexican restaurants. That's about it. Otherwise nobody gives a shit."

Agreed and I never stated otherwise.

Again, prominence does not speak to it's perceived importance.

5/7/2010 9:49:27 AM

^werd

5/7/2010 11:46:57 AM

"A picture of a middle finger is not a middle finger. Thus, it should not be interpreted as a middle finger or bear any offense, nor can it."

- TreeTwister the Sage

5/7/2010 12:07:26 PM

Quote :

"The only reason its prominant in the US is to drum up business for bars and Mexican restaurants. That's about it. Otherwise nobody gives a shit. Furthermore, its hilarious that people celebrate Cinco De Mayo as a day to be proud of their Mexican heritage. It celebrates the Mexican army beating the French army in the town of Puebla. Why were the French at war with the Mexicans? B/c the Mexicans owed the French a lot of money and decided not to pay them back. Although, given how crappy a country Mexico is, celebrating something like that seems perfectly in line. [Edited on May 7, 2010 at 9:19 AM. Reason : it doesn't even have to be said that nobody in Mexico gives a shit about this "holiday" anyway]"

just won the shit out of this thread.

signed.

[Edited on May 7, 2010 at 12:22 PM. Reason : Mexico SUCKS!]

5/7/2010 12:21:52 PM

i'm still waiting for someone to click moron's link and find his entire string of text and realize that he quoted text from a summary, then posted a different link that contained part of the quote, but wouldnt back down from my claim that his link and quote didn't match up

since thats the only thing i was arguing with him

5/7/2010 12:43:37 PM

Mr. Tree Twister have you ever seen somebody use a quotation in a sentence before

5/7/2010 12:52:14 PM

Mr. Danger, have you ever seen someone google the flag code, post a quote from a summary site, link a DIFFERENT site, then refuse to admit he's done so?

5/7/2010 12:57:15 PM

You're losing pretty hard, sir. Never seen somebody go down in flames over such a trivial issue in TSB before lol. Tree Twister taking the effin' cake.

5/7/2010 12:58:46 PM

trivial? absolutely

wrong in what i'm claiming about his quote/text not matching up? far from it

right after his post with the mismatched links/quotes I replied with:

Quote :

"at least post the right link, since ctrl+f doesnt confirm your like with your quote (first link)"

yet despite this being completely trivial like you say, he refused to admit he was wrong

but somehow I'm 100% to blame for a trivial bullshit argument with moron, when he was just as hardheaded about it as me

5/7/2010 1:04:05 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/07/tensions-high-california-high-school-following-flag-flap/

5/7/2010 3:37:58 PM

the only thing stupider than the administration sending these kids home are the people trying to justify it with the benefit of hindsight.

5/7/2010 3:52:36 PM

Hey, remember these douchebags?

http://www.gilroydispatch.com/news/266724-families-of-live-oak-students-sue-school-district-over-cinco-de-mayo-incident

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"The parents of three of the four boys who were sent home from Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill on Cinco de Mayo filed a lawsuit today against the Morgan Hill Unified School District, Principal Nick Boden and Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez for violating their First and Fourteenth Amendment rights. "The families are hoping to have their Constitutional rights vindicated," their attorney William J. Becker Jr. said Wednesday by phone. The lawsuit, Dariano v. Morgan Hill Unified School District, "seeks nominal damages" Becker said, which is symbolic. The plaintiffs are not seeking monetary damages or an apology. It's whether or not Live Oak or any other school in the United States recognizes their duty to not infringe on students' First Amendment rights, Becker said. ... The plaintiffs also seek compensation for their attorney's fees and expenses and the cost of litigation from MHUSD. "

So they don't have any damages, they just want to waste the school districts time and money with a frivolous lawsuit! Nothing more American than that!

6/25/2010 10:41:25 AM

Who's footing their legal bills?

6/25/2010 10:44:05 AM

It's probably pro bono because the law firms are getting some free pub from all this. But I see that won't stop them from milking the school district for the money.

6/25/2010 10:50:20 AM

Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled before on other cases that dealt with student-caused disruptions in school settings? Seems like I recall that there's a bit of precedent.

6/25/2010 10:57:26 AM

maybe next time the principal wont kick them out of school for wearing american flag shirts in america

i'm glad i didnt go to school in this era of complete political correctness and pussification

6/25/2010 12:29:32 PM

Would you have opposed the suspension of a student, who normally wouldn't, dressing in traditional Muslim garb on September 12th, 2001?

[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ]

6/25/2010 12:33:53 PM

maybe the next time the kids will listen to their principal/boss/etc and not act like douchebags, but I'm guessing not since their parents are backing them on their douchebaggery in hopes of making some easy cash.

6/25/2010 12:34:34 PM

^Exactly. This isn't a free speech issue. It's a "school is a place to learn, not to act like an incendiary douchebag" lesson.

6/25/2010 12:35:12 PM

wearing a shirt with an american flag = acting like a douchebag

oh no, i cannot learn here since these kids are wearing shirts with flags on them

6/25/2010 12:35:51 PM

Wearing a shirt with an American flag on a day when you knew the school would be celebrating Mexican heritage = acting like a douchebag.

6/25/2010 12:36:50 PM

If it wasn't obvious before, the suit just confirms that this whole thing was just a cry for attention. These people should probably get a life and stop picking on a assuredly cash strapped school district just to prove some retarded point.

Way to go. You acted like douchebags and asserted your constitutional rights and got absolutely nothing. Congratulations. Go fuck yourself.

6/25/2010 12:37:11 PM

going to school in america and bitching and moaning about people wearing american flag shirts = biggest fucking douchebags imaginable

i like how you guys twist things around to shit on the 1st amendment when it doesnt agree with you

THESE SHIRTS ARE A DISTRACTION TO THE LEARNING PROCESS!

6/25/2010 12:37:26 PM

Suing that school district without any damages just to wave your cock around = king of all douchebags

6/25/2010 12:42:42 PM

what about all the people calling them huge douchebags a month ago before there ever was a lawsuit

and i take it that the opposite of waving your cock around is shitting on the constitution?

6/25/2010 12:43:37 PM

I trust the principal over the kids, and he gave them an easy out (can't remember if it was turn the shirts inside out or change, either way), and they refused and got the news involved. Pretty douchebaggy.

6/25/2010 12:47:17 PM

Quote :

"I trust the principal over the kids"

I, too, trust the police over my friends

6/25/2010 12:47:54 PM

these kids aren't my friends, and the principal isn't a cop, but whatever keeps your rage going, friend

6/25/2010 12:48:30 PM

whatever you have to tell yourself to keep convincing yourself that these kids were in the wrong for being patriotic

still i dont know why you blindly trust some principal you havent met

6/25/2010 12:49:25 PM

mostly I don't believe that they were 'just being patriotic'. They were enough of a disturbance to get the principal's attention, and he didn't even come down hard on them, and I'm not sure why you want to blindly trust some high school kids and their money hungry parents.

6/25/2010 12:54:54 PM

Quote :

"and i take it that the opposite of waving your cock around is shitting on the constitution?"

No.

The opposite is not waving it around in court for no reason and being happy that you can act like a jackass whenever you want.

6/25/2010 12:56:28 PM

^TreeTwista10, give up. Patriotic's out. Being sympathetic to illegal immigrants, Muslims and anti-semites is what's in these days.

[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 12:58 PM. Reason : e]

6/25/2010 12:56:47 PM

Quote :

"their money hungry parents."

they're so money hungry, they're trying to cover their legal bills and nothing more

i just don't buy how you guys want to act like these shirts were DISTRACTING THE LEARNING PROCESS

you know what distracts the learning process in school? paying more attention to a holiday than the class curriculum

6/25/2010 12:58:29 PM

Besides, you sort of give up your "constitutional rights" when you go to school. Most of the time people have no problem with it, but I think a lot of you are just using this as a platform to launch into anti-government anti-immigrant arguments and whatnot.

I have "the right" to wear gang colors, as given by the first amendment. But I can't wear them in school. Is that a violation of my first amendment rights?

^Oh just give it a rest already, man.

[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM. Reason : ]

6/25/2010 12:59:06 PM

does the school fly a gang doo rag from a flag pole every day of the year?

God: 2010 TWW Award Winner of Worst Analogies

Quote :

"but I think a lot of you are just using this as a platform to launch into anti-government american anti-immigrant constitution arguments and whatnot."

[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM. Reason : .]

6/25/2010 1:00:02 PM

That's not the point, and you know it.

6/25/2010 1:00:54 PM

that is the fucking point

its a school in america

americans go to school there

they fly an american flag at the school

but wearing american flag shirts pisses off some Latin AMERICANS and faggots like you defend the offended ahead of the lunacy of them being sent home

even when one of the 4 kids was latin american and his dad was from mexico!

HOW DARE YOU SUPPORT YOUR OWN FREE COUNTRY OVER YOUR FATHER'S NATIVE LAND

6/25/2010 1:02:04 PM