without checking, i'm gonna bet those other corners were in loaded drafts, or at least ones that had a clear cut #1 pick (or several to choose from). this is the weakest draft i can remember, so i'm thinking if a really good player fits yours needs, you take him regardless of where it is

4/26/2011 8:09:54 AM

4/26/2011 11:04:27 PM

Apparently the latest rumblings are that the Panthers aren't sold on Newton and are high on AJ Green.

At least they wouldn't have to pay him $50 million.

:/

4/26/2011 11:13:49 PM

i will LOL if the Panthers draft anything other than a defensive player. I'd go with Peterson. He is the most talented and most ready player in the entire draft that can do multiple things for your club. Why reach for a QB that won't be ready for a few years or a WR that has nobody to throw it to him? Anybody in charlotte that expects the panthers to be any good next year or the next are fooling themselves anyways. They should build for the future by getting the best players they can.

4/26/2011 11:51:37 PM

Quote :

"They should build for the future by getting the best players they can go 0-16 to land the #1 pick again and make Luck come this time."

4/27/2011 12:13:38 AM

you know, as lukewarm as I am on Newton I really hope they dont blow the #1 on AJ Green.

We've been down this road with Smith. If your QB sucks your WRs don't mean shit

4/27/2011 12:40:55 AM

^^we have the #1 pick in this year's draft and you're talking about next year

way to post up to your stereotype

Petersen = safe pick, good player in the league for many years
Dareus = Emeka Okafor of Defensive Tackles...solid but already at his ceiling and not Ndamkong caliber
Green = tremendous wideout but lacks stud WR speed, still that didn't stop Jerry Rice
Fairley = more upside than Marcell but serious work ethic questions
Newton = best upside but worst downside, probably won't legitimately contribute for a year or two minimum but could be someone that defensive coordinators around the league shit themselves over gameplanning

I really don't see any other possible players the Cats would draft unless they trade down which I would optimally want over taking any of those guys 1st overall

[Edited on April 27, 2011 at 12:47 AM. Reason : ^Delhomme's boyfriend ITT lol]

4/27/2011 12:42:52 AM

he just wants to make Luck cum

4/27/2011 12:44:04 AM

broken gif...someone post nate's wake forest neck breaker gif

[Edited on April 27, 2011 at 10:24 AM. Reason : d]

4/27/2011 10:23:35 AM

Quote :

"We've been down this road with Smith. If your QB sucks your WRs don't mean shit "

True, but doesn't this work the other way too? Not saying I want Green, but our best WR is now David Gettis. That's just depressing.

At this point, I'm ready to just say fuck it and draft Von Miller. LBer is probably the least of our needs, but he seems like the biggest impact player in this draft. Realistically though, give me Peterson, Dareus, or trade down. I'd love to get somewhere at 6-10 and wait for a player like Fairley, Jones, or Amakumara to drop

[Edited on April 27, 2011 at 11:36 AM. Reason : Trade down = pick up a second rounder and possibly get Ponder. He's gonna be a good one]

4/27/2011 11:34:54 AM

I dreamed last night Tennessee traded up to #1 and took Gabbert.

4/27/2011 11:37:21 AM

Yeah I think our only chance to trade down is if someone is sold on Newton or Gabbert as a franchise QB.

4/27/2011 11:46:31 AM

Quote :

"At this point, I'm ready to just say fuck it and draft Von Miller. LBer is probably the least of our needs, but he seems like the biggest impact player in this draft."

rivera is switching to a 3-4, right? Might not be a bad move if so...miller would be a beast pass rusher on the outside in a 3-4...and they would have a sick LB group...especially if davis comes back anywhere near what he was

4/27/2011 11:48:12 AM

pretty sure they're sticking with 4-3

[Edited on April 27, 2011 at 11:54 AM. Reason : for now...]

4/27/2011 11:54:13 AM

Anybody watch the Bill Parcells draft confidential last night? Had Nate Irving as the only ILB to have a first round grade. Pretty amazing considering all these mock draft "experts" have him as a 4th rounder

4/27/2011 12:08:04 PM

Quote :

"Had Nate Irving as the only ILB to have a first round grade."

Didn't see it, but that's awesome.

From what I saw, I really like the Parcells special last night. Thought it was interesting he really liked Cam Newton, and that he had Amakumara rated higher than Peterson IIRC

4/27/2011 12:17:55 PM

At least it's exciting this year not knowing who the #1 pick will be. The last few drafts have had guys sign contracts days before the draft even began.

4/27/2011 12:18:54 PM

Quote :

"^^we have the #1 pick in this year's draft and you're talking about next year"

Max wins for Carolina this year = about 5/6. Realistically 4-12 unless major changes made.

4/27/2011 12:23:27 PM

^^and teams would still use their whole time allotment to pick #1, which might be the most frustrating thing ever

[Edited on April 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM. Reason : juym]

4/27/2011 12:23:53 PM

Quote :

"Had Nate Irving as the only ILB to have a first round grade. Pretty amazing considering all these mock draft "experts" have him as a 4th rounder"

I don't think anybody who watches football expects him to last that long. Fuck what the experts say.

4/27/2011 4:05:58 PM

I would be shocked if Nate got picked before the 3rd round.

4/27/2011 4:36:12 PM

Fucking LOL at Peyton Hillis as the Madden coverboy

4/27/2011 5:11:53 PM

I'm sure he gets to fuck Beadle as part of the prize

4/27/2011 5:13:41 PM

Mock Draft of NFL Network's Mike Mayock

1. Carolina Panthers: Cam Newton, QB Auburn
2. Denver Broncos: Von Miller, LB Texas A&M
3. Buffalo Bills: Marcel Dareus, DT Alabama
4. Cincinnati Bengals: A.J. Green, WR Georgia
5. Arizona Cardinals: Patrick Peterson, CB LSU
6. Cleveland Browns: Julio Jones, WR Alabama
7. San Francisco 49ers: Blaine Gabbert, QB Missouri
8. Tennessee Titans: Nick Fairley, DT Auburn
9. Dallas Cowboys: Tyron Smith, OT USC
10. Washington Redskins: Prince Amukamara, CB Nebraska
11. Houston Texans: Robert Quinn, DE North Carolina
12. Minnesota Vikings: Aldon Smith, DE Missouri
13. Detroit Lions: Anthony Castonzo, OL Boston College
14. St. Louis Rams: Corey Liuget, DT Illinois
15. Miami Dolphins: Mike Pouncey, OL Florida
16. Jacksonville Jaguars: Ryan Kerrigan, DE Purdue
17. New England Patriots: Cameron Jordan, DE California
18. San Diego Chargers: J.J. Watt, DE Wisconsin
19. New York Giants: Mark Ingram, RB Alabama
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Da'Quan Bowers, DE Clemson
21. Kansas City Chiefs: Danny Watkins, OL Baylor
22. Indianapolis Colts: Nate Solder, OL Colorado
23. Philadelphia Eagles: Gabe Carimi, OL Wisconsin
24. New Orleans Saints: Phil Taylor, DT Baylor
25. Seattle Seahawks: Marvin Austin, DT North Carolina
26. Baltimore Ravens: Jimmy Smith, CB Colorado
27. Atlanta Falcons: Adrian Clayborn, DE Iowa
28. *(Patriots trade pick): Jake Locker, QB Washington
29. Chicago Bears: Jonathan Baldwin, WR Pittsburgh
30. New York Jets: Akeem Ayers, LB UCLA
31. Pittsburgh Steelers: Aaron Williams, CB Texas
32. *(Packers trade pick): Andy Dalton, QB TCU

* Mayock predicts another team will trade into these slots to take a QB

4/28/2011 12:48:01 AM

People like a white running back, kind of like they like a black golfer.

4/28/2011 12:50:35 AM

ESPN has Nate as the 8th best ILB and 148th overall.

Kiper suggests Carolina should take A.J. Green while McShay says Marcell Dareus.

4/28/2011 12:51:43 AM

^^those two things are TOTALLY analogous

[Edited on April 28, 2011 at 12:52 AM. Reason : dumb post is dumb]

4/28/2011 12:52:03 AM

Should be awesome tomorrow... The draft with the biggest number of unknowns of any draft I can remember

4/28/2011 12:55:52 AM

Just the other day McShay was saying he thought the Panthers should take Blaine Leaf #1

Fuck him and kiper, they're just agent puppets

4/28/2011 12:58:04 AM

that was easily the best thing to come out of the John Blake saga

4/28/2011 1:01:36 AM

Quote :

"Fuck him and kiper, they're just agent puppets"

They are pretty much paid to be fortune tellers. If they're wrong, they don't really lose any credibility because "that's how complicated football is." The one thing that is impressive about them is their knowledge of pretty much every possible player eligible for the draft. Even in the later rounds, they still can give pretty sound summaries of their game and how they might project to their new team. Regardless, I think they both suck.

4/28/2011 1:07:40 AM

Dunno about the best thing, id argue UNC being dragged through the mud the last 9 months

But it was definitely enlightening and while a guy like Kiper might be able to spout off a 5 minute description about a 6th round right guard, its clear he has an agenda

4/28/2011 1:08:01 AM

it's the best thing pending an actual decision on UNC football

4/28/2011 1:10:17 AM

Any word as to how many prongs have been plugged?

4/28/2011 1:12:48 AM

Quote :

"^^those two things are TOTALLY analogous [Edited on April 28, 2011 at 12:52 AM. Reason : dumb post is dumb]"

What you're saying people don't like good white running backs or black golfers?

How do you explain Peyton Hillis winning the Madden cover? Or Tiger Woods having his own EA Sports franchise?

4/28/2011 1:59:33 AM

yep

Tiger only has his own video game franchise because he's black

you've solved it

congrats

[Edited on April 28, 2011 at 2:14 AM. Reason : I think you may have had one too many white wine spritzers tonight]

4/28/2011 2:01:39 AM

And I'm sure no black people are fans of Tiger Woods despite not really caring about Golf because he's black.

I can't really tell what you're problem with the argument is.

4/28/2011 10:09:10 AM

If you had said black QB this wouldn't be an issue

4/28/2011 10:13:04 AM

Argument would only be valid if Hillis was at CJ2K/Peterson level

or conversely, if Woods was at a Jim Furyk/Zach Johnson level

4/28/2011 10:20:56 AM

There are plenty of those though compared to white running backs. Maybe black kicker.


Tell me people wouldn't like a black kicker.

[Edited on April 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM. Reason : ]

4/28/2011 10:21:31 AM

Quote :

"The one thing that is impressive about them is their knowledge of pretty much every possible player eligible for the draft. Even in the later rounds, they still can give pretty sound summaries of their game and how they might project to their new team."

Every scout working in the NFL can do the same thing and probably better.

4/28/2011 10:27:41 AM

The tipping point for me was Kiper doing that Fast and Furious commercial

I fully expect to see McShay hyping Thor tonight

4/28/2011 10:30:38 AM

Also, Ted Larsen doing work

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1166512.ece

Quote :

"Bucs lineman plucks kayakers from water off Honeymoon Island"

4/28/2011 10:48:59 AM

i was just looking to see if anyone posted that

GG Teddy!

4/28/2011 10:52:37 AM

I'm too lazy to make a new one or bump the old chargers thread but I wonder what they are gonna do without sproles.

4/28/2011 12:56:56 PM

Same thing they did last year

Throw every play and hand off to Matthews whenever Rivers' arm gets tired

4/28/2011 1:08:57 PM

Probably be exactly the same.

Sproles has a few nice plays but he's not the player he was 3 years ago. He's actually a below average kick returner now.

4/28/2011 1:10:46 PM

lol @ these mock drafts. For the redskins at 10 i've seen Quinn, Jones, Amukamara and Jake Locker on different drafts. No one has a clue...which is sad, cuz the redskins probably don't either

4/28/2011 2:14:25 PM

Here are ssjamind's R1 predictions:


1. Action Cats - DT Dareus, Bama
2. Broncos - LB Miller, Tex A&M
3. Bills - DT Fairley, Auburn
4. Bengals - QB Newton, Auburn
5. Cards - QB Gabbert, Mizzou
6. Browns - WR Green, Dawgs
7. 49ers - CB Peterson, LSU
8. Titans – Tyron Smith, OT USC
9. Cowgirls - Prince Amukamara, CB Nebraska
10. Skins - RB Ingram, Bama
11. Texans - Julio Jones, WR Alabama
12. Vikes - Anthony Castonzo, OL Boston College
13. Lions - Robert Quinn, DE North Carolina
14. Rams - Aldon Smith, DE Missouri
15. Dolphins - Corey Liuget, DT Illinois
16. Jags - Mike Pouncey, OL Florida
17. Pats - Ryan Kerrigan, DE Purdue
18. The San Diego Rivers - Cameron Jordan, DE California
19. G-Men - Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois
20. Bucs - : J.J. Watt, DE Wisconsin
21. Chiefs - Danny Watkins, OL Baylor
22. Colts - Nate Solder, OL Colorado
23. Iggles - Da'Quan Bowers, DE Clemson
24. Saints - Marvin Austin, DT North Carolina
25. Seahawks - Phil Taylor, DT Baylor
26. Ravens - Gabe Carimi, OL Wisconsin
27. Falcons - Adrian Clayborn, DE Iowa
28. Pats - Jonathan Baldwin, WR Pittsburgh
29. Da Bears - Jimmy Smith, CB Colorado
30. Jets - Akeem Ayers, LB UCLA
31. Steelers - Aaron Williams, CB Texas

And my dark horse to sneak into round 1, whom I’m calling, “Mr. Least Irrelevant”:

32. Packers - Taiwan Jones, RB, Eastern Washington


Honorable Mentions/Potential Round One Sneak-ins for :

Andy Dalton, QB TCU
Jake Locker, QB Washington
Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech
Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
Edmond Gates, WR, Abilene Christian



[Edited on April 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM. Reason : [Edited on April 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM. Reason : edits]]

4/28/2011 4:03:45 PM

^ if the cats don't pick newton, i think he'll slide out of the top 10. also, i don't see any way quinn is still around at 13. otherwise entirely plausible (except gabbert might be too high as well)

4/28/2011 5:17:37 PM