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armorfrsleep
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I swear The Good Wife is on a mission to employ every actor ever featured on The Wire...Commissioner Rawls as an evil mountain climber and Clay Davis as a high-powered mediator? Yes please.

[Edited on October 11, 2011 at 1:25 AM. Reason : .]

10/11/2011 1:16:31 AM

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So 8 o'clock tomorrow night, major networks have 90210, Biggest Loser, NCIS, baseball, and...Last Man Standing.

I actually think I'm gonna watch Last Man Standing.

"Mike sets Mandy up with Kyle, one of his employees, but Kyle accidentally meets Kristin instead; against Mike's wishes, the family decides to baby-proof the house."



They should really just air reruns of Home Improvement--get some Al and Wilson action going.

10/11/2011 2:29:42 AM

jbrick83
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^ I would rent a movie if I were you. I can't believe someone gave Tim Allen another show. It. Looks. Horrible.

10/11/2011 8:28:01 AM

aimorris
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I would have watched if they put Debbe Dunning on it.

10/11/2011 8:35:52 AM

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Anyone who watches the Tim Allen show is no friend of mine.

Its like he's targeting the show for an audience in 1996.

Then again, he hasn't been relevant in 15 years anyway, so it kinda makes sense.

10/11/2011 9:40:32 AM

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wilson's dead

[Edited on October 11, 2011 at 9:43 AM. Reason : imma watch it because i like timmy]

10/11/2011 9:43:12 AM

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So I found some time to catch up on ABC's Revenge and i'm not going to lie, i enjoy it. It's definitely under my Guilty Pleasure category and nothing more. Most of it is probably due to my long time devotion to Emily VanCamp. It's got some cheesy elements, especially the "trial footage" she watches on her laptop but if ABC can do this right, and make it one or two great seasons and not try and drag it out for more than it is I think it'll be a great story.

10/12/2011 9:21:39 AM

jbrick83
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^

I've actually caught a few episodes as well, and also enjoy it.

How do you make these types of shows more than one season? I feel like they will have her fucking up the life of the main antagonist by the end of the season...then what??

10/12/2011 10:48:54 AM

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yeah i'm not real sure. especially since the network season pick up is 22 episodes. you have to worry that the story will stall at some point and we'll get a lot of mid-season episodes that do nothing but spin their wheels. If this were a cable series of 13 episodes I could see it being a great one season wonder (like the Killing ultimately failed at, and was still renewed) or 2 seasons with a huge cliffhanger in between.

10/12/2011 11:23:08 AM

armorfrsleep
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"Most of it is probably due to my long time devotion to Emily VanCamp. "


Everwood 4 life.

10/12/2011 12:42:29 PM

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Any show you have to follow week to week (24, Revenge, etc) should start in January and run uninterrupted thru May. Asking viewers to stick with a show like this thru the Holiday breaks is too much to ask.

I mean, 3 months? WTF?

10/12/2011 3:24:17 PM

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^ I didn't even know shows had the cajones to do that (never was much into Lost), but damn - a gap from November to February between episodes?

Particularly in Lost, of all shows.



[Edited on October 12, 2011 at 7:18 PM. Reason : Then again, maybe I'm blind and just never noticed it because I hardly get involved in any one show.]

10/12/2011 7:12:53 PM

dzags18
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Yeah that gap sucked pretty badly.

10/12/2011 7:38:30 PM

Jeepin4x4
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^^it's pretty much the norm for Network programs. Viewership numbers decrease over the holiday season so primetime shows go into hiatus during those winter months.

10/12/2011 8:13:32 PM

armorfrsleep
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A 3 month hiatus is definately unusual though...most shows take a month, or maybe 6 weeks off during the holidays. Lost had a weird and elongated production cycle.

10/12/2011 8:31:21 PM

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Notice the drop in ratings after the break



I wish networks would do 12 or 13 episode seasons like cable does. Have maybe a fall slate that runs Sep-Dec and a spring one that runs Jan-May. Tigher packing, easier to follow, less production cost, etc. I hate how 22 has become the standard and no one has the balls to change it up.

10/12/2011 9:52:37 PM

armorfrsleep
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I think doing 12 or 13 episode seasons for serialized dramas makes sense from a storytelling perspective because a lot of those shows end up having to do filler episodes to get to 22. However it is definitely cheaper for a network to do 22 episodes of one show than 12 episodes of two different shows because the start up costs can be amortized over a larger number of episodes.

10/12/2011 10:15:02 PM

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I agree, I like the usually shorter runs followed by quality shows even during the summer. My best example of this would be SyFy, what with running Eureka/Alphas in the summer and then Warehouse 13/Sanctuary in the same timeslots in the fall. They were also mixing it up with some other shows like BSG, the Stargates, etc. but it has come down to the point that I am only following 4 shows on the channel, and Eureka has been scrapped too after this season.

10/12/2011 10:41:44 PM

aimorris
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forgot about Psych coming back last night

10/13/2011 12:44:09 PM

Jeepin4x4
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"Community is definitely in trouble."



the good news is that this season was already picked up in full, so no worries there. it's also one step closer toward syndication numbers which is good.

the bad news is NBC is still in a downward spiral.






and in other news.. Jeremy Sisto is mom jeans and boycotting lemon squares = awesome Suburgatory

10/13/2011 1:40:06 PM

armorfrsleep
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Community also got a big bump in the ratings after DVR use was factored in, so that's a good sign I guess.

And yeah Suburgatory was pretty funny, plus it had Randy from The Wire.

10/13/2011 1:45:30 PM

Jeepin4x4
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i know, seeing him was Ba-Nay-Nay

10/13/2011 1:53:53 PM

Jeepin4x4
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Revenge and Suburgatory picked up for full season. w00t

10/13/2011 4:56:49 PM

armorfrsleep
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Charlie's Angels got beat by Vampire Diaries last night, good stuff ABC.

10/14/2011 1:05:29 PM

Nighthawk
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^And production was ended today. Episodes already shot will air. Another one bites the dust.

10/14/2011 3:23:43 PM

Slave Famous
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I need to find some other way to keep Minka Kelly in my life

10/14/2011 3:36:46 PM

armorfrsleep
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bon voyage Pan Am.

10/17/2011 12:15:33 PM

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Homeland is by far and away the best new offering this season.

Person of Interest is also pretty quality, and I'm waiting on another episode or two from American Horror Story before deciding.

Also, Hell on Wheels starts up on 11/6 I believe. Definitely interested in that.

10/17/2011 12:19:05 PM

armorfrsleep
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"Person of Interest is also pretty quality"


I've only seen 1.5 episodes of Person of Interest but it struck me as a standard CBS procedural where one of the leads is a charisma black hole. They get some points for giving Linda Cardellini work though.

10/17/2011 12:26:14 PM

Jeepin4x4
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in terms of that show, i think Jesus' as a walking void of emotion actually works. It's typical CBS genre-fare but it's well executed.

10/17/2011 1:40:57 PM

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i was kinda half enjoying pan am. oh well

10/17/2011 2:25:58 PM

armorfrsleep
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^I kind of like it too, and we'll almost assuredly get a couple more episodes.

10/17/2011 4:29:23 PM

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well I cant wait for 2 broke gals, i personally like the humor and i think the two girls are real cool

10/17/2011 4:30:27 PM

jbrick83
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Was flipping around trying to find something to watch last night and caught "2 Broke Girls" for about two minutes. It was fucking horrible. Did I watch the two worst minutes or was it horrible the whole way through??

10/18/2011 7:42:23 AM

aimorris
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^ - see ^^

10/18/2011 8:12:38 AM

Nighthawk
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^^The pilot was a bag of fail and we have not tuned in since.

10/18/2011 8:36:58 AM

armorfrsleep
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Strong episodes from Happy Endings and Up All Night, Modern Family and Suburgatory were weaker but still funny.

10/19/2011 10:44:11 PM

armorfrsleep
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double post

[Edited on October 19, 2011 at 10:46 PM. Reason : stupid smartphone]

10/19/2011 10:44:11 PM

aimorris
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boo to reruns tonight

10/20/2011 8:13:18 PM

PKSebben
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Ugh, I don't want to wait a week for Community, Parks and Rec, and The Office.

10/20/2011 9:50:29 PM

dyne
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once upon a time looks like a winner.

10/24/2011 9:46:09 AM

se7entythree
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^i tried to watch it. didn't really like it that much. i'll give it another shot though.

10/24/2011 11:44:09 AM

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204777904576649040250372076.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

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"NBC's downward slide is getting steeper.

Long a ratings laggard, the network has fallen further behind its competitors this fall, heightening the challenge facing its new owner Comcast Corp. as it works to mount a turnaround.

Through the first four weeks of the TV season ending Oct. 16, about 3.3 million adults under 50 years old have been watching prime-time TV shows on NBC, according to the latest figures from Nielsen Holdings NV. That is down 9.3% from the same period a year earlier. Much of the decline is concentrated in NBC's entertainment shows."

10/24/2011 11:57:08 AM

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what's funny is that of all of the networks I watch more shows on NBC than the rest. The bad part is that they're only 30 minute sitcoms and 4 of 5 come on on the same night. Their one-hour dramas have lacked for many years, save a few. But NBC has gained a reputation for not backing and pulling the plug on a show before it ever has a chance to fully gain an audience and that attitude has turned a lot of people off from devoting their time to the network.

10/24/2011 1:30:46 PM

armorfrsleep
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If any network has a reputation for pulling shows too early it's FOX. I can't really blame people for not watching NBC dramas since they've been pretty terrible recently (with the notable exception of FNL), but people steadfastly refusing to watch NBC's Thursday comedies reflects very poorly on the viewing public. For whatever reason people don't want to watch smart and innovative comedy, they'd rather stick with the dick and pussy jokes and lame catchphrases that CBS churns out.

10/24/2011 1:49:12 PM

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The only NBC show I watch is Chuck, and I might give their new show Grimm a shot on Friday

10/24/2011 1:58:08 PM

se7entythree
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grimm actually looked better to me in promos than once upon a time. i'll try that one out too.

10/24/2011 2:23:25 PM

armorfrsleep
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You know that Grimm is going to be good because the star is a former cast member of Road Rules.

10/24/2011 8:10:16 PM

saps852
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grimm was pretty good, a little obvious. hope its not gonna be a whole show with nothing but wolf people

10/29/2011 6:50:05 PM

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I, too, enjoyed Grimm. Last new show of the fall will be Hell on Wheels next Sunday

10/29/2011 7:17:04 PM

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